Super Heroes Mafia: Day 7 ends! Nabe and Circus wins! Zen dies in end game!

[#HBC | Nabe]

Unvote, Vote: Rajam

X1, would you take Raj toDay? Is Raj/Gheb possible in your eyes?

Gheb, is Raj your lynch toDay? Of the people currently with votes on them, whose lynches are acceptable to you?

Raj, is DH your lynch toDay? Do you find any other cases compelling with deadline on the way?

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

Why should I need to explain your work? I'm practically giving you answers if I do.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

That response tells me that you could see possible reasons that I would focus you over them which would mean you're targeting me for something else, so out with it.

 

[Xivii]

Hep, mafia can communicate with eachother during the day.

 

[Radical Fiction]

I swear to God, this wouldn't happen if RF was allowed to just ****ing look at other forums. I don't see why hydras have to be denied access to regional threads and such. Maybe not allowed to post, but I can look at the ****ing threads while signed out.

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

Ryker, you're nitpicking.

I had implied, that regardless of wether k coil or could not, I saw no point on answering.

 

[Xivii]

Why is Dark Horse being so ignored this game? I seriously think we should lynch him.

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

Zen, why did you answer that old of a question?

Why have you yet to show any evidence for your sudden jump to me?

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

Charming ninja, you're proving my point more

 

[Xivii]

What old question? Why aren't you paying attention? Why are you not voting? Why are you ignoring questions? That's why I'm voting you.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

This is amusing.

Beat, who's going toDay?

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

"can mafia cominicte during the day"

Why the loaded questions?

Show me how I haven't been paying attention.

Zen, how come you seemed to miss my explanation as to why, yet you then attack me for "not paying attention"?

What questions have I missed?

 

[Xivii]

You haven't stuck to any of your views. When I asked you who you thought was scum you said something like "Yeah you and Beat go together" which such a scummy statement. And then when I asked why you weren't voting one of us you said it was because the Rajam wagon was getting started. wtf would you play like this. It shows to me that you have no concern of lynching who you feel is scum. You're afraid of forming concrete connections. You're waiting for a wagon that you can easily hop on.

 

[Xivii]

"can mafia cominicte during the day"

I'm not answering an old question. I'm responding to 748. Hence why you aren't paying real attention.

Why the loaded questions?

This is a loaded question.

Show me how I haven't been paying attention.

See above.

Zen, how come you seemed to miss my explanation as to why, yet you then attack me for "not paying attention"?

???

What questions have I missed?

Ryker's. Answer.

 

[giraffelasergun]

Okay seriously you guys why do you have to make such long posts ugh. Anyway, Rajam, have you fully caught up yet? When you do read this post in the future refrain from making paragraph responses to post three days old, its really not that helpful. Also, Hepalien posted that her name was Rebecca.

@DH: Do you think RF's vote for you was solely because he forgot you were playing and not even slightly based off of other factors.

@Kuz: Do you ever intend on playing?

@Rajam: Please stay current.

@Zen: Can you explain the logic behind this again?

I like glg's play so far, but he is probably scum. Not much to explain there.

Gheb is intentionally playing slow. Not much to explain there.

 

[Beat!]

This is amusing.

Beat, who's going toDay?

Preferably Rajam. Kuz and GLG needs to speak up, otherwise they work as well. Atm, DH seems to be doing nothing but posting one-liners in which he defends himself. He can go too. Still suspicious of X1, Gheb and, to some extent, Moriarty, but they should probably live toDay.

You're asking the question in a way that implies that you really trust me. Is that the case? If so, why?


@Rajam
You keep making catch-up posts w/o ever really catching up with the game. You've been 2-3 pages behind for a while now. You also ask questions that have already been asked. And your case on Gheb is weak, to say the least, and you only FoS-ing him strengthens that. My vote stays on you.

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

Zen, you'll have to explain how I have been "not Sticking to my views". I've stuck with you, beat, and rajam for awhile now.

Funny you consider that statement scummy, yet you provide no reasoning as to how. I have a perfectly good reason (you guys are guilty of the same crime).

come to think of it, reading over your post, most of this is just statements, with only "This is scummy" and "wtf man" for evidence.

As for "Wating on a wagon, ave you seen me jump on any wagons today? What about the "X1" wagon?

"Why the loaded question" isn't a loaded question because it is stating a fact, unlike yours which are pretty much opinions in the form of loaded quesitons.

Hep's question was at 751. Hep/Rajam hadn't been asking for aquestion in their recent arguing about it. Yes, its an old question.

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

GLG, that's all he's explined, so that's probably the best case. I don't see why he would hide anything.

Beat, why am I posting "one liners that only defend myself"? Because most of the posts atm are attacking me. Are you saying I shoudl ignore those attacks?

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

Zen, RF has yet to ask me a quesstion that I did not answer in the last 200 posts. You'll have to be more specific than "Ryker"

 

[Beat!]

No, but you're not really trying to scum hunt either. As soon as you got a little "uncomfortable", you got super defensive.

 

[giraffelasergun]

GLG, that's all he's explined, so that's probably the best case. I don't see why he would hide anything.

Because he's Ryker.

Plus, as you said you aren't the only inactive. So he has to have at least a different reasoning for attacking you.

@Beat: Gotta love ninjas, huh.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

You're asking the question in a way that implies that you really trust me. Is that the case? If so, why?

Nope. Just wanted to know where your head was at, since I saw you were reading.

DH is behind Kuz/GLG in lynch order, in your opinion?

 

[Radical Fiction]

@Kuz and Gheb - Is DH always this bad?

 

[Xivii]

Zen, you'll have to explain how I have been "not Sticking to my views". I've stuck with you, beat, and rajam for awhile now.

No, you haven't.

You claimed to think me and Beat were scum but you did not want to vote us because others were not voting us. When I asked about this you calimed that you were just on us for discussion. Then you calimed to think Rajam scummy, but you have not voted him at all either. Or even tried to develope that read.

Funny you consider that statement scummy, yet you provide no reasoning as to how. I have a perfectly good reason (you guys are guilty of the same crime).

It's scummy because for one it's a horrible conclusion for us to be scumbuddies. Surely scum would not buddy eachother in such a way. Secondly, saying "yeah you two go together" is speaking as if you had just come to the decision and had made up your mind. Yet you do nothing to act on it.

come to think of it, reading over your post, most of this is just statements, with only "This is scummy" and "wtf man" for evidence.

wtf= why tf. It was a question. Why would you play in a way where you are just following wagons and not voting for who you think is scummy?

As for "Wating on a wagon, ave you seen me jump on any wagons today? What about the "X1" wagon?

No you haven't gotten on any wagon because you are waiting, like I said. You will only vote for the person who is set to be lynched. You're avoiding on getting on voting someone who may not be lynched.

Hep's question was at 751. Hep/Rajam hadn't been asking for aquestion in their recent arguing about it. Yes, its an old question.

What? No...

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=12450834&postcount=748

Hep believes that scum can only communicate with eachother at night because that's how it works with irl mafia I suppose. I'm informing her that this is not the case.

 

[Xivii]

Okay seriously you guys why do you have to make such long posts ugh. Anyway, Rajam, have you fully caught up yet? When you do read this post in the future refrain from making paragraph responses to post three days old, its really not that helpful. Also, Hepalien posted that her name was Rebecca.

@DH: Do you think RF's vote for you was solely because he forgot you were playing and not even slightly based off of other factors.

@Kuz: Do you ever intend on playing?

@Rajam: Please stay current.

@Zen: Can you explain the logic behind this again?

I explained it twice.

What are you getting from asking these questions and making these comments? You seem to just be asking questions with no real goal in mind.

Are you fully caught up in the game? Why are you not voting anyone? Would you like to no lynch today?

 

[giraffelasergun]

I explained it twice.

What are you getting from asking these questions and making these comments? You seem to just be asking questions with no real goal in mind.

Are you fully caught up in the game? Why are you not voting anyone? Would you like to no lynch today?

Explain it in way that doesn't say that isn't "he reads town but I think he's scum anyway!"
The question towards DH was because dh was legitimately trying to make it sound like he felt RF was only voting him based off of inactivity which is definitely not the case. The goal in mind here was to get dh to directly state an opinion that he could not back down on later.

The Kuz bit was because kuz has only made like two posts since the game started and he hasn't posted in this thread anything about v/la(unless I missed it).

The rajam bit was becuase his posts are generally cluttered because he quotes peoples entire posts to reply to one bit and the questions/content he adds has generally already been asked and or answered so there isn't really any point in him asking anymore.

I haven't voted yet because I haven't decided if I'd rather lynch you/beat/dh today. Although right now of those three I'd probably rather have a dh lynch so..

Vote: DH.

 

[Radical Fiction]

Kuz posted in the social thread that he's CURRENTLY V/LA for a tennis tournament. However, I do not think he was previously V/LA. He was also terribly inactive in an ongoing game where he flipped town.

 

[Xivii]

Explain it in way that doesn't say that isn't "he reads town but I think he's scum anyway!"
The question towards DH was because dh was legitimately trying to make it sound like he felt RF was only voting him based off of inactivity which is definitely not the case. The goal in mind here was to get dh to directly state an opinion that he could not back down on later.

The Kuz bit was because kuz has only made like two posts since the game started and he hasn't posted in this thread anything about v/la(unless I missed it).

The rajam bit was becuase his posts are generally cluttered because he quotes peoples entire posts to reply to one bit and the questions/content he adds has generally already been asked and or answered so there isn't really any point in him asking anymore.

I haven't voted yet because I haven't decided if I'd rather lynch you/beat/dh today. Although right now of those three I'd probably rather have a dh lynch so..

Vote: DH.

You're showing to have reason when I ask you stuff which is town to me. But you're never town to me when you're town. You're usually scummy to me when you're town.

Are you fully caught up in the game? What do you think of Gheb and the point s made against him? What are your thoughts on Rad, Clown, vandy, Nabe, and x1? With reasons.


And why DH over me and Beat? Would you still be suspicious of me and Beat if DH flips scum?

 

[Rajam]

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I never said RR is scummy. Lies.
I said you can read RR but doing so will probably not help town to win. How is that wishy-wash? That's one of the clearest stances you can take towards a player. And if you want more I think he's town.

Directly answering questions can be harmful depending on the question. And sometimes it *literally* doesn't matter. And when that's the case I will say that it doesn't matter. That's not scummy, let alone *purposefully* so.

Gheb why did you say you believed RR was faking his posts, and how wouldn't that imply he is scum? What motivation would someone town have for faking post restrictions?

You guys really don't think Gheb is playing this way intentionally o_O?

Why would town play scum intentionally? Because they're a super-power-role? I've never understood that, and never will. Townies playing scummy on purpose are dumb. That said, Gheb is scum. His defense is horrible. If Dark Horse wasn't so scummy I'd be voting Gheb now

Where's Moriarty? Why can't at least just one hydra member play?

X1 leanning a little more town (ie: less scummy). Gheb calling his scumhunt pseudo-scum-hunt (again without explaining why) hurts Gheb more imo. Circus is scum, his appareance in page 17 was so random and convenient. Dark Horse disappearing in a moment where the pressure was in the very beginning of start growing on him.

OS should just replace or mod-kill kuz

HepAlien laying super-low and hiding

 

[Xivii]

Why would town play scum intentionally? Because they're a super-power-role? I've never understood that, and never will. Townies playing scummy on purpose are dumb. That said, Gheb is scum. His defense is horrible. If Dark Horse wasn't so scummy I'd be voting Gheb now

Yes to avoid being NKed so he can use his PR. He can also be indy.

I don't think Gheb is really this slow of a person and that he's intentionally playing troll-like.

or mod-kill kuz

No.

 

[Beat!]

@Beat: Gotta love ninjas, huh.

:d

@Nabe
Ok, that's fine. Your wording just made me wonder a little.

 

[Beat!]

And I'd rather lynch DH than glg, since glg just started to post again. Kuz seem to be flat-out ignoring this game, and would work better as vig fodder, considering that we can't draw connections from his lynch. Him and Rajam are most likely not scumbuddies, though.

 

[Beat!]

Wait, Kuz is V/LA

:/

Still good vig fodder unless/until he starts posting.

 

[Rajam]

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Nothing new to add. Since this page is mostly about the discussion between Gheb and X1, and ppl wondering if it's SvS, TvS, SvI, etc. I'll just say I have no clear impression on one or another. Could be SvS, SvT, maybe even TvT, so idk, for me it's like a dice toss. Both of them are scummy though, Gheb more than X1, so I'll just proceed on that. None of my reads have strongly changed by reading this page.

 

[giraffelasergun]

You're showing to have reason when I ask you stuff which is town to me. But you're never town to me when you're town. You're usually scummy to me when you're town.

Are you fully caught up in the game? What do you think of Gheb and the point s made against him? What are your thoughts on Rad, Clown, vandy, Nabe, and x1? With reasons.


And why DH over me and Beat? Would you still be suspicious of me and Beat if DH flips scum?

I get that, there are a lot of times back in the day where I used to always think Nabe was scum, even if he was practically confirmed town.

The points made against Gheb do kind of make sense, as a lot of the times he would just make posts saying things like "why am I suspicious" and then wouldn't really say much else but I don't really see how thats scummy because I know if people don't explain to me why I'm scum I sort of freak out.

Rad- I can't read rad, the only think he really has done to me that struck me as odd was he joke fake claimed day vig.

Vandy I really don't remember.

Clowns is towns, a few days ago he expressed some concerns about things that made me think he was town.

Nabe is town, but i don't think hes offered anything amazing that mde me want to preach his towniness or go about how helpful he was.

X1 had a weak attack on him earlier but after that he sort of fell off the map imo.

DH over you two because when RF voted dh for being inactive his immediate response was I'm not the only one who is non-existant, so has Kuz and GLG. You and beat didn't try to deflect the suspicion onto anyone else.

If dh flips scum I would still be suspicious of you and beat.

HepAlien laying super-low and hiding

You really have absolutely no right to say this.

And I'd rather lynch DH than glg, since glg just started to post again. Kuz seem to be flat-out ignoring this game, and would work better as vig fodder, considering that we can't draw connections from his lynch. Him and Rajam are most likely not scumbuddies, though.

Why aren't they scum buddies?

 

[Beat!]

Because Rajam wanted to modkill Kuz.

 

[Circus]

That's debatable because "attention" is entirely a subjective perception. My name was tossed around a lot - enough to make me think that I was getting more attention than warranted. I expected the usually more empathetic town Circus to see that.

And I'm not drawing more attention to myself than the others anyway.

I think when you said "empathetic," the word you were actually looking for was "gullible."

Circus is scum, his appareance in page 17 was so random and convenient.

Am I supposed to wait for the Circus Signal to light up the sky before I show up to save the Day?

It's totally ridiculous that Kuz hasn't posted yet if he hasn't at least asked for a replacement. Outside of his alignment, it's just flat-out rude to OS and to the rest of us playing this game.

Still think Gheb should be the lynch toDay. Dark Horse has been flying under my radar, but I think he can wait until D2, as can Rajam. Everyone realizes that we have less than 24 hours before deadline, right? We have to firm up a lynch. Everyone not voting, especially, need to find homes for their votes soon.

 

[Rajam]

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I come back, and two people have wagoner on me, and rf seems to have found out my nickname that I would have hoped for it to ne'er appea in dgames....

@rajam

Hep had said her name earlier. That's how glg knew.

As I said earlier, even though you were rereading, you had still attacked beat solely off of meta from other people. Meta is one of the easiest ways to Create a case/attack, as it really doesn't require much exlanation. in addition, you had brought up the games just now. Why not earlier.

As for why I haven't voted, look at sleepover. My original vote on zen was slightly later than my original attack, and then I had gotten attacked by most of the town, and called noobscum for "wanting to be safe"

The little time I attacked Beat was due to tells, not meta. I attacked Beat when he said "I'll wait for others to post", because it's one of the hardest tells in the chilean forums (scum always used it as an excuse for not doing anything) and when I saw it here I pointed it out immediatly.

Also, why would I've brought those games here? they're in spanish, and I don't like when ppl tell others to go and check full games just to prove a point, so of course I wouldnot make the same. I only brought them here because you asked for

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http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=12451191&postcount=749 :

Not at all.



You want to mention what those are, because thats an incredibly safe thing to say.



Doubt it, interested in how you got this conclusion because this is the stupidest possible one to lean on.



TvT could be possible.. not sure yet.

After a long time no posting... this is all? The lack of (explained) scum picks is something note-worthy

No, that's exactly how I understood the post. And again, you must be reading a different game than I do if you think I'm being passive. I might be on the defense but I'm hinting at my lynch pool and scum picks pretty hard. No way you could've missed that.



Both points are flat-out wrong. I still have Zen on my scum list, just not as high as earlier. I already explained that. Just as I explained my vote on Rajam.

~*~ Where ~*~​

Hi, we're playing "mafia" here aka finding scum. Not "looking for a scapegoat with a few baseless, petty comments".



Yeah because getting lynched for no apparent, concrete reason doesn't matter to me. Try a little harder, perhaps? Comments like these are pretty useless.



Why would I if it only ends up with me lynched? It's not like I haven't trie to ignore baseless suspicions but after time they became more common and vocal. At a certain time you realize that something isn't quite right when everybody just randomly has you in his scum list but nobody can give me a solid, clear-cut reason as to why.

And as soon as I ask for reasons you all jump on me saying I'm passive and scummy for it. But I still haven't done anything that's actually scummy.

Also Gheb, you said earlier that you got the impression that everybody was attacking you for no reason at all. Overly generalized statement imo. Could you say who specifically attacked you for apparent no reason according to you?

 

[Rajam]

Unvote, Vote: Rajam

X1, would you take Raj toDay? Is Raj/Gheb possible in your eyes?

Gheb, is Raj your lynch toDay? Of the people currently with votes on them, whose lynches are acceptable to you?

Raj, is DH your lynch toDay? Do you find any other cases compelling with deadline on the way?

Why is no one explaining anything? ._.

Pretty much, yes. Gheb goes 2nd. I'll join Circus and HepAlien wagons if it comes to it. Not sure about X1, I only have the initial case on him.

 

[Rajam]

Okay seriously you guys why do you have to make such long posts ugh. Anyway, Rajam, have you fully caught up yet? When you do read this post in the future refrain from making paragraph responses to post three days old, its really not that helpful. Also, Hepalien posted that her name was Rebecca.

@DH: Do you think RF's vote for you was solely because he forgot you were playing and not even slightly based off of other factors.

@Kuz: Do you ever intend on playing?

@Rajam: Please stay current.

@Zen: Can you explain the logic behind this again?

wait, you also come from a long time not posting. Scum picks?

Already on page 20 btw