Super Heroes Mafia: Day 7 ends! Nabe and Circus wins! Zen dies in end game!

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Vote: Moriarty

 

[Rajam]

Preferably Rajam. Kuz and GLG needs to speak up, otherwise they work as well. Atm, DH seems to be doing nothing but posting one-liners in which he defends himself. He can go too. Still suspicious of X1, Gheb and, to some extent, Moriarty, but they should probably live toDay.

You're asking the question in a way that implies that you really trust me. Is that the case? If so, why?


@Rajam
You keep making catch-up posts w/o ever really catching up with the game. You've been 2-3 pages behind for a while now. You also ask questions that have already been asked. And your case on Gheb is weak, to say the least, and you only FoS-ing him strengthens that. My vote stays on you.

However not responded. For example: why did Moriarty and RF call Zen's usage of meta on X1 bad meta? @vand: what w.r.t stands for? Which were the reasons Zen, BeatStick and Gheb voted for me when they did? Why did Gheb call RR's pictures a fake post restriction and how that would not imply RR is scum? Also my case on Gheb is because he was unclear and wasn't giving explanations. Is that a weak case? Add as well that I've been doing the same questions to him over and over and still there is no response

Explain it in way that doesn't say that isn't "he reads town but I think he's scum anyway!"
The question towards DH was because dh was legitimately trying to make it sound like he felt RF was only voting him based off of inactivity which is definitely not the case. The goal in mind here was to get dh to directly state an opinion that he could not back down on later.

The Kuz bit was because kuz has only made like two posts since the game started and he hasn't posted in this thread anything about v/la(unless I missed it).

The rajam bit was becuase his posts are generally cluttered because he quotes peoples entire posts to reply to one bit and the questions/content he adds has generally already been asked and or answered so there isn't really any point in him asking anymore.

I haven't voted yet because I haven't decided if I'd rather lynch you/beat/dh today. Although right now of those three I'd probably rather have a dh lynch so..

Vote: DH.

Check what I just said to BeatStick. A LOT of my questions still haven't been responded. Also, I quote the full post to do not provoke out-of-context quotes, and I put the relevant thing I'm talking about in color.

 

[Rajam]

Kuz posted in the social thread that he's CURRENTLY V/LA for a tennis tournament. However, I do not think he was previously V/LA. He was also terribly inactive in an ongoing game where he flipped town.

?? What was the purpose of posting this? We all know Kuz is a 100% inactive

You're showing to have reason when I ask you stuff which is town to me. But you're never town to me when you're town. You're usually scummy to me when you're town.

^^^ wifom

Are you fully caught up in the game? What do you think of Gheb and the point s made against him? What are your thoughts on Rad, Clown, vandy, Nabe, and x1? With reasons.


And why DH over me and Beat? Would you still be suspicious of me and Beat if DH flips scum?

 

[Rajam]

Finished catching up btw. My reads stand basically the same ( although take out Moriarty from my town list )

 

[Xivii]

Red Ryu the day is close to ending. It's clear we aren't lynching Mori. Choose someone that can actually be lynched.


@____@ I seriously have to make a conscious effort not to call Circus 'Clown' @_@

 

[Xivii]

@Rajam: Yes, yes it is. But I had to give some explanation.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

@Ryu: ....

@Ryu: That was just me showing that there were a lot of possibilities for scum and that there were a lot of scummy people. If you have been paying attention you would know that my main scum list is but three people: X1, Rajam, and Circus.

@Ryu: Don't try and present abstract ideas such as 'nonsense' with your pics. The MK was obvious. And most of the others were as well.

@Ryu: Your one post a day sounds made up haha.

@Ryu: Breaking a posting restriction to see if it is true is not is not cheating at all. But you don't need to do so. Vandy is carzy.

Yeah I don't believe Red Ryu either.

What does this mean?

Why did you leave certain pictures cryptic to the point where it's hard for the majority of people to even understand them? I'm aware you can't answer this so easily within a picture but did you earnestly expect people to figure out the idea behind the magic cards?



BULLSHIT

Not *once* did I claim that you should be killed. What's up with these atrocious misinterpretations of *simple* and *obvious* points? Do you understand the difference between *ignoring* and *killing* you? Have actually even read what I've said about you?

And when the hell have I been backing off? I've gone out of my way to go into detail and justify my stance on you and had to eat all kinds of **** for it. I seriously don't need you to prove your skimming by telling me that I supposedly did the complete opposite of what I did in actuality.



On what *bandwagon*? Tell me what fucking bandwagon you are talking about? I HAVE NEVER, NOT EVEN ONCE TRIED TO GET YOU LYNCHED, VOTE FOR YOU OR CONSIDERED YOU SCUM!!!

There was absolutely nothing for me to wagon you for.



What *bandwagon*? Tell me what fucking bandwagon you are talking about? I HAVE NEVER, NOT EVEN ONCE TRIED TO GET YOU LYNCHED, VOTE FOR YOU OR CONSIDERED YOU SCUM!!!

There was absolutely nothing for me to wagon you for.



No wonder, considering how badly you missed my point.


So after all this: Somebody remind me how I've been scummy in the slightest.

- I'm not playing like you guys know me. QQ moar? I play no game the same way twice. Deal with it. If you meta me off my recent history in dGames then 75% of that is my scum meta and thus entirely contradictory to what you *should* expect.

That is not scummy.

- I backed off Zen. "Backing off" is a bit too much said - I still don't think he's a bad lynch. But I still wonder what I was supposed to do? Keep on pushing for his lynch with that little I had? When I realized that as town he is far more scummy than as mafia I knew his case on X1 was - although lousy - still genuine. And again I wonder how it is a problem to change my min?

That is not scummy.

- I think we should not try to figure out RR's posts. Yes, I think so. DEAL WITH IT. He even admitted himself that some of his points are really hard to understand. I'm not even *blaming* him for anything, let alone think he's scum. But I know as well as anybody else that his points will never directly lead us to lynching scum. That's literally all I said about how to deal with it. Some of his points can be understood, making it perfectly possible to read him. Some of his points can't making it meaningless to even ask because we will learn nothing new from it. Not hard to understand.

That is not scummy.

Conclusion: I AM NOT ****ING SCUMMY.

I never said RR is scummy. Lies.
I said you can read RR but doing so will probably not help town to win. How is that wishy-wash? That's one of the clearest stances you can take towards a player. And if you want more I think he's town.

Directly answering questions can be harmful depending on the question. And sometimes it *literally* doesn't matter. And when that's the case I will say that it doesn't matter. That's not scummy, let alone *purposefully* so.

His stances and attempts to hunt scum are genuine in my book.
Principle of exclusion.
Similarities to his town play in Dissidia.

My main beef is with the way you've been focusing so unilaterally on the way town perceives you recently. Passively calling Zen scum and then changing your mind is null. Wanting to lynch inactives on D1 is fine (I like doing it) and also null. Whatever the hell your read on Ryu is is weird but null right now. What is scummy is the fact you totally stopped caring about that stuff and began to focus solely on your own preservation far earlier than it was warranted.

If Gheb gets lynched toDay

At first I thought he was being cryptic on purpose but in the one post he could talk in he explained himself and I believe him. If we assume his restriction to be legit I can see that he might run into difficulties expressing himself in all situations. Calling him "purposefully" cryptic was not warranted.

That has nothing to do with him being "cryptic" [intentional or not]. I'm convinced that his points will not help us finding scum and thus "deciphering" them would be a waste of time / effort. I'm merely using his more obvious points to understand he's likely town.

Read what you can read [I think we all can agree that a good bunch of his points is understandable] and base your reads on that. What you can't read / follow probably won't help you to find scum and you have enough material to get a read on him anyway.

I come back, and two people have wagoner on me, and rf seems to have found out my nickname that I would have hoped for it to ne'er appea in dgames....

@rajam

Hep had said her name earlier. That's how glg knew.

As I said earlier, even though you were rereading, you had still attacked beat solely off of meta from other people. Meta is one of the easiest ways to Create a case/attack, as it really doesn't require much exlanation. in addition, you had brought up the games just now. Why not earlier.

As for why I haven't voted, look at sleepover. My original vote on zen was slightly later than my original attack, and then I had gotten attacked by most of the town, and called noobscum for "wanting to be safe"

Sorry I haven't posted a votecount in a bit. My Grandpa died yesterday, funeral is friday. The lynch results might be later than normal. If this is the case, the day ends at 3:00 p.m. EST whether I post it or not.

Unvote, Vote: Rajam

X1, would you take Raj toDay? Is Raj/Gheb possible in your eyes?

Gheb, is Raj your lynch toDay? Of the people currently with votes on them, whose lynches are acceptable to you?

Raj, is DH your lynch toDay? Do you find any other cases compelling with deadline on the way?

Red Ryu the day is close to ending. It's clear we aren't lynching Mori. Choose someone that can actually be lynched.

Unvote
Vote: Dark Horse

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

That has nothing to do with him being "cryptic" [intentional or not]. I'm convinced that his points will not help us finding scum and thus "deciphering" them would be a waste of time / effort. I'm merely using his more obvious points to understand he's likely town.

Read what you can read [I think we all can agree that a good bunch of his points is understandable] and base your reads on that. What you can't read / follow probably won't help you to find scum and you have enough material to get a read on him anyway.

 

[HepAlien]

Hep, mafia can communicate with eachother during the day.

i appreciate the post, but i was actually aware of this. my point was more that the mafia aren't attached to the hip, so just because one might be acting funny doesn't mean that the others are always there and able to tell him to stop right away. but i think the point is moot now anyway because Rajam's been doing this catch up thing for a long time now.

HepAlien laying super-low and hiding

how so? i try to make sure i get online and post every day, and i think i've been pretty clear about who my suspects are right now.

You're showing to have reason when I ask you stuff which is town to me. But you're never town to me when you're town. You're usually scummy to me when you're town.

you can be pretty confusing sometimes.

vote: Gheb_01

i'm willing to change this, but i feel like voting Gheb now just in case i don't get another chance to vote for anyone. i'll linger on here tonight and keep up with what's happening, and i'll try to check the thread tomorrow morning, but i can't promise i'll be able to.

 

[Xivii]

Hep Rajam had been doing it for days. Mafia uses a quicktopic which makes it pretty simple for them to communicate with eachother pretty much all the time.

 

[Xivii]

Nabe & Hep you should vote for DH.

 

[HepAlien]

i'd kind of rather do Gheb. Dark Horse seems like a random switch at the last minute. i'm not feeling it.

 

[Xivii]

Switches are good because it catches scum off guard.

DH is at L-3
Gheb is at L-5

We need to make sure we lynch. And even if DH flips town, he wont be helpful in the future.

 

[HepAlien]

hm. i guess maybe i'll switch before i go to bed tonight if things don't change. Dark Horse still seems like an odd choice. i mean, if we're going for keeping around people who are going to be the most helpful, shouldn't we just lynch Kuz?

where is everyone anyway?

 

[Rajam]

Hep Rajam had been doing it for days. Mafia uses a quicktopic which makes it pretty simple for them to communicate with eachother pretty much all the time.

Yeah, but Zen remember we didn't talk wednesday

Spoiler

 

[Circus]

So I guess no one felt like playing mafia today. Right before the deadline.

 

[Xivii]

Yo Circus vote for DH yo. The deadline is soon.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

@OS: Due to language issues. Can we get another 24 hours?

 

[Circus]

Ugh.

Unvote

Vote: Dark Horse

Just because it seriously is really soon and I'm not sure if I'll be able to be online at deadline. I agree with Hep though; this seems pretty sudden and random.

Also, this prank is funny but offensive to my eyes.

 

[Circus]

The ninjas.

Actually, yeah, is it too late to ask for a brief extension? Even another day would be great.

 

[Beat!]

"The Black Plague"
"Farmville"
"fun fun fun"

??????

Request deadline extension

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Request~Deadline~Extension

Can't~read~up~through~posts~because~some~of~them~are~not~intelligible~to~me~right~now.
Dodging~this~nonsense~also~is~extremely~bothersome~and~there's~soooo~much~to~respond~to~it~would~take~ages~to~respond.
I~will~prepare~a~post~in~a~wordpad~document~so~as~soon~as~SWF~is~done~with~this~[completely~unfunny]~farce~I~will~cover~everything~that's~left~unanswered~[hopefully].

PS~this~post~took~me~already~minutes~to~make.
I~don't~even~wanna~think~about~how~a~replacement~must~feel~0_o

 

[Overswarm]

3. I do not expect to grant deadline extensions, barring extenuating circumstances. In the event I need to replace a player, I may extend the deadline to accommodate the new player. Certain game events may also result in a change of deadline.

...

Deadline extension in effect until Saturday the 2nd, 3:00 p.m. EST, because of April Fools gag and funeral combination. No deadline extension will be granted just for the sake of more time.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Man~that's~a~horrible~way~to~get~a~post~changed~@~OS~

Since~I'm~not~sure~which~words~are~going~to~be~changed~my~thorough~responses~will~come~tomorrow~to~avoid~confusion.
I~just~wanted~to~mention~that~I~really~don't~think~DH~is~scum.
His~play~here~resembles~his~play~from~sleepover~[mainly~attack~people~who~attack~you~;~inconsistent~activity~;~no~actual~use~in~scumhunting~etc].
I~really~doubt~that~a~player~who~still~needs~more~experience~could~play~so~consistent~especially~since~I~don't~remember~him~being~mafia~so~far.

 

[Xivii]

Gheb his play is not the same at all. Though he very well does have the capacity to play scum.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

I'll check in 2mo, goddamn.

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

I'll response later, when my posts won't get changed.


If I try now, I'll probably get nowhere.

 

[Circus]

Unvote

I don't have time to get into anything right now, but I'll be on later today.

It really is a terrible way to get a deadline extension, but we do appreciate it, OS. Do you have any idea what Kuz's status is? Will he be replaced?

 

[Radical Fiction]

Sympathies, OS.

---

Haven't read the thread since page 6, if you're generous.

Looking for a recap. Ryker was a little vague.

Someone tell me the major plays, the top scumspects, who's obv town and who's played dodge.

In fact, everyone tell me. I want a short summary (long, if you have the time) from each playerslot (not from Gheb). Zen keep yours to three lines tops. Kuz is exempt.

Failure to help me get up to speed from any player will result in me refusing to add any content and will refuse to remove my vote from that slot. So unless anyone wants to single handedly be responsible for town stalling...?

Cheers guys.

 

[vanderzant]

Zen tell me who to vote if you're here, on iPod but access will be real limited for me. I'm voting x1 atm, hopefully will be able to check again before the day ends.

 

[Circus]

Sympathies, OS.

---

Haven't read the thread since page 6, if you're generous.

Looking for a recap. Ryker was a little vague.

Someone tell me the major plays, the top scumspects, who's obv town and who's played dodge.

In fact, everyone tell me. I want a short summary (long, if you have the time) from each playerslot (not from Gheb). Zen keep yours to three lines tops. Kuz is exempt.

Failure to help me get up to speed from any player will result in me refusing to add any content and will refuse to remove my vote from that slot. So unless anyone wants to single handedly be responsible for town stalling...?

Cheers guys.

Regardless of whatever has been keeping you busy (I assume work), the underlined portion of this post is ridiculous. It is no one's fault other than your own that you aren't up to speed. Saying "if you don't sum everything up and present it to me in an easily digestible format, then the town will suffer and it will be your fault," is a jerk move.

Gheb got defensive about the suspicion being on him and kind of lost his **** on his 636. Some of us think that makes him a pretty good lynch target, some of us don't (I do).

Some people (Zen) think Dark Horse should be the lynch instead. Most of the people actually voting for viable candidates seem to agree with that. He's looking like the easiest lynch right now, though that doesn't mean he's the best.

Rajam is done playing catch up.

Moriarty has been really scarce.

I have very few obvtowns, and I'm not going to announce them now for the mafia to pick off. Would be willing to lynch almost anyone to avoid a No Lynch, but I like Gheb the most right now, personally. Even if he's town, I feel like his flip should be the most informative.

I think those are the most important points.

 

[Circus]

Vote: Gheb

 

[Xivii]

Vote: X1

 

[Xivii]

Ryu since you're on will you please vote X1? Will explain switch in a sec. But we need to get this going.

 

[Circus]

Zen, please post your explanation as soon as you can, regardless of votes. Keeping up with these last minute switches is going to make my hair fall out. My hair is beautiful, Zen. Don't do this to me.

 

[giraffelasergun]

Can anyone tell me why you're switching votes off of DH and onto people who have less votes? Do you guys want there to not be a lynch.

 

[Circus]

I'll switch back to Dark Horse or something if we can't make a Gheb lynch happen. Though there really will be a No Lynch if people don't get their butts in here and post. The April Fool's prank still seems to be keeping people away.

 

[Xivii]

-There are enough people to get an X1 lynch through.
-X1 has been lurky all game. Much of that was from V/LA yes but X1 has shown more concern in the other games he has been in despite this.
-X1 completely ignored my case on him upon him returning from V/LA. When asked for him to respond he hardly adressed the points at all. And skipped like a large chunk.
-X1 has been playing as if he already knows who town is. He declared Beat dumb town with no evidence at all. He also listed how he felt others were good in his eyes upon entering the game. (This can be found in the first couple of pages or just by searching his posts). X1 came into the game with the mindset that Gheb is scum and has tunneled him all day, yet x1 has not questioned Gheb at all. He's simply been stating that every post that Gheb posts makes him scum. He's shown know motive to try and figure out anything. He has his mind set on who is scum and who is not. Which is pretty telling that he is scum, knows whos scum, and therefor has no objective to figure out who is scum.
-The whole X1 & Beat back and forth at the beginning of the day still holds merit. X1 was being really iffy on the whole thing. Like he was originally trying to paint Beat as scummy but then back tracked. Just look at this post:

Its odd that someone as new as you are is ok with holding hands. Odd as though someone may have told you to do it, why are you so cool with it? Do you think Zen was being serious? Do you feel confident enough that you aren't getting tricked by someone you're holding hands with? From calling you dumb its clear my stance is I find your play bad, but I'm dismissing it as just being dumb as opposed to scummy intent.

This is after Beat questions him. In the beginning, X1 states the reason why he felt it was suspicious. Yet in the final sentences, he completely contradicts his line of thought, saying that he was pointing it out because it was dumb, not scummy. He then, in posts afterwards, goes further with saying that he didn't want others to think it was scummy. Yet he clearly shows from that post that he was pointing out a suspicion not a warning. Furthermore, the post where X1 states that Beat was dumb shows no sign of it being to prevent others from thinking Beat was scummy.



So please, Clown, Rajam, Nabe, glg, Ryu, Hep, Rad, Beat. Vote for X1.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Ryu since you're on will you please vote X1? Will explain switch in a sec. But we need to get this going.

 

[Xivii]

I still think DH is pri scummy, but then again I'm not liking the doubt either. If DH is scum, it will show sooner or later and we need more to pin on him than just him not voting.

Rajam you said you would vote X1 earlier, but you never did. Please do so now.

RadRyk I know you're down.

DH please actually use your vote and vote for X1.

Beat: n_n let's do this

Clown: As you said you are up for voting for anyone to avoid no lynch. Gheb is looking really unlikely. We really should just wait for tomorrow and all the night biz.