Sunrise, Sunset - Isaac for Smash Ultimate #GoldenSunday

[NoOtherPersona]

One I missed just goes to show the music is wonderful

 

[Billybae10K]

Speaking of leaders, where is Billybae10K right now? Haven't heard from him here for some time.

I'm alive, no worries. I've just taken a few days off from smashboards to just focus. Since the main portion of smash speculation is over, I've been a little busy with the channel. That being said, I'll be taking part in Golden Sunday and I'm always happy to help spread Isaac and Golden Sun to the masses. That being said, I'd rather not be a "leader" in that sense, as I feel like that places unwanted pressure on me at this time, as I've got other stuff to worry about as well.

So, what have I missed?

 

[JaidynReiman]

What I purposed was a whole website made from scratch, because I'm a web developer and perfectly can handle it. WordPress sites are easier to make, but doesn't have the "customizability" a website made from scratch can have.
I was willing to make this website but, first, I'm not a web designer so I'll try to do my best but it probably could be more sexy if someone have these skills and, second point, if someone know how to make a good looking WordPress, it can be easier and quicker.

I already have a lot of idea for that website, let me a bit of time, I'll try to draw the big lines before tomorrow. And like I said, if someone have skills in web design, I'll happily take the help.

Trust me, WordPress is very much customizable. This is a complete misnomer. Get me any design and I can convert it to WordPress. It's not hard, WordPress is really more needed for the Content Management System features than anything.

As far as I have seen, the smashbros.com Blog is run on WordPress. They seem to mostly just use it for the CMS features as well.

 

[Pinguino21v]

Honestly, I think the tag should just be #GoldenSun, as simple as that. It also let more space to tag more Nintendo accounts.

Edit:

Trust me, WordPress is very much customizable. This is a complete misnomer. Get me any design and I can convert it to WordPress. It's not hard, WordPress is really more needed for the Content Management System features than anything.

As far as I have seen, the smashbros.com Blog is run on WordPress. They seem to mostly just use it for the CMS features as well.

I got several bad experience with CMS (not WordPress itself however), mostly because the customer needs weren't made for that kind of tools.
I'm more a "web application" developper than a "web site" developper. I do applications to manage customer internal processes (like project management), I don't make showcase websites. In our case, I perfectly can understand that a CMS could be enough (and even better) and if you have the skills and the will to take care of that, I'll be totally fine.

Like I said, I'll try to draw my vision of that future website soon. I'll share it with you on Discord once it's done.

 

[Tetiro]

I'm alive, no worries. I've just taken a few days off from smashboards to just focus. Since the main portion of smash speculation is over, I've been a little busy with the channel. That being said, I'll be taking part in Golden Sunday and I'm always happy to help spread Isaac and Golden Sun to the masses. That being said, I'd rather not be a "leader" in that sense, as I feel like that places unwanted pressure on me at this time, as I've got other stuff to worry about as well.

So, what have I missed?

You did enough in the Smash Base Roster days. All we could ask from you now is to help spread the word on the day and beforehand to give people time to prepare

We do need a ring leader for this campaign though. Who should it be?

 

[JaidynReiman]

Honestly, I think the tag should just be #GoldenSun, as simple as that. It also let more space to tag more Nintendo accounts.

Edit:

I got several bad experience with CMS (not WordPress itself however), mostly because the customer needs weren't made for that kind of tools.
I'm more a "web application" developper than a "web site" developper. I do applications to manage customer internal processes (like project management), I don't make showcase websites. In our case, I perfectly can understand that a CMS could be enough (and even better) and if you have the skills and the will to take care of that, I'll be totally fine.

Like I said, I'll try to draw my vision of that future website soon. I'll share it with you on Discord once it's done.

I'm a mix of both depending on what I need. Right now I'm mostly doing web application, yeah. But I also do websites depending on the context. ATM, its not something I'm doing much of, focusing more on web application.


CMS's can be tricky depending on the circumstances. Wordpress in general is very flexible, though, and for this kind of thing, is completely serviceable. There's no real reason to make a completely custom CMS for a fan campaign like this. It mostly just needs a blog and maybe pages describing specific characters and games.

 

[Tetiro]

I'm a mix of both depending on what I need. Right now I'm mostly doing web application, yeah. But I also do websites depending on the context. ATM, its not something I'm doing much of, focusing more on web application.


CMS's can be tricky depending on the circumstances. Wordpress in general is very flexible, though, and for this kind of thing, is completely serviceable. There's no real reason to make a completely custom CMS for a fan campaign like this. It mostly just needs a blog and maybe pages describing specific characters and games.

CMS? You mean Content Management System?

 

[JaidynReiman]

CMS? You mean Content Management System?

Yes. CMS is short for Content Management System. Different CMS's are designed for different things in mind. Wordpress is primarily for blogs, but its really flexible through plugins and templates.

 

[XenoWarriorX]

So apperently r/SmashBros is gonna delete any mention of Golden Sunday if you try to advertise it on there.

.-.

Well, I guess I might as well put some more substance into my post.

 

[Tetiro]

So apperently r/SmashBros is gonna delete any mention of Golden Sunday if you try to advertise it on there.

.-.

Well, I guess I might as well put some more substance into my post.

To be fair, it is understandable considering it is unrelated to Smash Bros.

Are there any Golden Sun fansites or forums in existence?

 

[XenoWarriorX]

To be fair, it is understandable considering it is unrelated to Smash Bros.

Are there any Golden Sun fansites or forums in existence?

Not very many popular ones.

 

[Jupiter Ivan]

I'm alive, no worries. I've just taken a few days off from smashboards to just focus. Since the main portion of smash speculation is over, I've been a little busy with the channel. That being said, I'll be taking part in Golden Sunday and I'm always happy to help spread Isaac and Golden Sun to the masses. That being said, I'd rather not be a "leader" in that sense, as I feel like that places unwanted pressure on me at this time, as I've got other stuff to worry about as well.

So, what have I missed?

We’re just trying to figure out what our little movement should be called, what hashtags we should use. How we should go about the website thing. You know, normal stuff.

I won’t pressure you to be a leader. I only ask that you help us and be a part of our merry group. Take part in discussions and just generally keep the hope alive by simply being present.

I’m not even asking you to make Golden Sun videos. Though I am excited for the Golden Sunday video. Just be a part of the community. That’s all.

 

[TempestSurge]

There is also Isaac4Smash and IsaacForSmash. I will be using #GoldenSun and #GoldenSunday for sure, the other tags i will decide in order to the trend.

The main worrying thing is that it'll make some hashtag movements look split in half if say Nintendo is aware of one variation and not the other. Personally #BringBackGoldenSun (BBGS) flows way better to me than #BringGoldenSunBack (BGSB). But yeah I'll just go with whatever one is the trend.

 

[Undella2]

So apperently r/SmashBros is gonna delete any mention of Golden Sunday if you try to advertise it on there.

.-.

Well, I guess I might as well put some more substance into my post.

Have you tried posting on r/Nintendo?

 

[DCavalier]

I'm still here.
I been working on some test renders for the elemental stones.
I'm going for a realistic look, will post it later today.

 

[RetrogamerMax]

It sucks Isaac is an Assist Trophy because you guys deserve a lot better. You guys really deserve Isaac because of how long you've fought for him, because of your desire for him, because of your passion for him, and because of your will power to not give up on him. As guy who was a K. Rool supporter and now is a K. Rool main, I salute you guys. Because of your dedication to Isaac, I want to support him. Count me in as a Isaac supporter starting today.

 

[Pinguino21v]

To be fair, it is understandable considering it is unrelated to Smash Bros.

Are there any Golden Sun fansites or forums in existence?

That's right, unfortunately.

We have to think about it further. Speaking of Golden Sun between us will not help us. We need to get exposure on unrelated communities, and especially big ones, and I feel that the best bet we have to do that is to create cross-over contents.

To our artists here, I would advise to do content with several characters who are not from Golden Sun. If you are youself part of other communities, it can be a good start. Imagining the main GS cast in Fire Emblem Heroes, creating some kind of Pokémon-like content with djinns, etc.

Later on, when Smash Bros Ultimate will be out, we should do some operations like a video "Every fighters killed by Isaac" and the like. It will then be related to Smash Bros, meanwhile putting the focus on our beloved serie.

 

[Shin F.]

I haven't said anything but I've been vaguely keeping up. Got a small piece of fanart I'll be tweeting out on Golden Sunday. Nothing big, but I want to keep supporting Isaac. I said long before he was an AT that I don't think it's a death sentence. I've grown to doubt that sentiment now, but I still believe that if Sakurai wants to include a character, he's not going to let something like that stop him. We just have to show him that Isaac is still in high demand.

 

[Tetiro]

That's right, unfortunately.

We have to think about it further. Speaking of Golden Sun between us will not help us. We need to get exposure on unrelated communities, and especially big ones, and I feel that the best bet we have to do that is to create cross-over contents.

To our artists here, I would advise to do content with several characters who are not from Golden Sun. If you are youself part of other communities, it can be a good start. Imagining the main GS cast in Fire Emblem Heroes, creating some kind of Pokémon-like content with djinns, etc.

Later on, when Smash Bros Ultimate will be out, we should do some operations like a video "Every fighters killed by Isaac" and the like. It will then be related to Smash Bros, meanwhile putting the focus on our beloved serie.

We should promote the Golden Sun subreddit and the Discord as a result of this weekend's plan.

Perhaps we could reach out to RPG sites etc?

 

[Gioka]

The Isaac for Smash Ultimate Twitter account informing us of Golden Sunday uses the hashtag #BringGoldenSunBack but I've seen some other supporters in the movement using the #BringBackGoldenSun.

Same thing but different wording which may make it harder to trend. I'll go with the first one since that's what's on the Twitter infographic about Golden Sunday. It does make me wonder what other hashtags are worded differently like that. We could have the numbers that day to trend, but if everyone's using different hashtags could be a hindrance in that endeavor.

I think the best chance for trending is just using Golden Sun tbh and it is probably the most productive one if we want to make Nintendo notice.

I'm alive, no worries. I've just taken a few days off from smashboards to just focus. Since the main portion of smash speculation is over, I've been a little busy with the channel. That being said, I'll be taking part in Golden Sunday and I'm always happy to help spread Isaac and Golden Sun to the masses. That being said, I'd rather not be a "leader" in that sense, as I feel like that places unwanted pressure on me at this time, as I've got other stuff to worry about as well.

So, what have I missed?

Glad to see you around! We are planning for a whole operation instead of stopping just with Golden Sunday, to give everything more formality and use what we learned from other revival movements. I also understand the leadership thing, we're not going to force you of course, would you be willing to be featured as a prominent content creator when we launch the page?

I haven't said anything but I've been vaguely keeping up. Got a small piece of fanart I'll be tweeting out on Golden Sunday. Nothing big, but I want to keep supporting Isaac. I said long before he was an AT that I don't think it's a death sentence. I've grown to doubt that sentiment now, but I still believe that if Sakurai wants to include a character, he's not going to let something like that stop him. We just have to show him that Isaac is still in high demand.

If I have learnt anything from this speculation cycle is that Sakurai will ultimately do whatever he wants unless someone above him tells him otherwise I think. Now we know Isaac wasn't chosen for base but it is impossible Nintendo and or Sakurai's team didn't notice the Rathalos tweet responses or the trending GS when the trademark was renewed

 

[JaidynReiman]

If I have learnt anything from this speculation cycle is that Sakurai will ultimately do whatever he wants unless someone above him tells him otherwise I think. Now we know Isaac wasn't chosen for base but it is impossible Nintendo and or Sakurai's team didn't notice the Rathalos tweet responses or the trending GS when the trademark was renewed

There's a lot of indications they had to cut back. Its entirely possible Isaac was planned, but got cut back and turned into an AT. Isabelle is barely different from Villager now that we've seen her, with her only having like 3 unique attacks or so, hinting that she was probably made a bit more unique to amp up the number of non-Echo fighters. Chrom was probably a last, last minute addition to the game which is why Chrom wasn't removed from Robin's FS. Shadow might've been even considered as well, which is why they waited so long to reveal Shadow.

It also explains why they revealed so many characters in August, and why Ridley may have been pushed back to E3 from March as has been rumored.

 

[Guynamednelson]

So apperently r/SmashBros is gonna delete any mention of Golden Sunday if you try to advertise it on there.

.-.

Well, I guess I might as well put some more substance into my post.

Hope for the Streisand effect to happen.

 

[TempestSurge]

Speaking of GS trending after the trademark renewed. Did anyone manage to snip it? That's something we can @ Nintendo with on Golden Sunday just to get them aware that it trended.

 

[KoopaSaki]

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That's right, unfortunately.

We have to think about it further. Speaking of Golden Sun between us will not help us. We need to get exposure on unrelated communities, and especially big ones, and I feel that the best bet we have to do that is to create cross-over contents.

To our artists here, I would advise to do content with several characters who are not from Golden Sun. If you are youself part of other communities, it can be a good start. Imagining the main GS cast in Fire Emblem Heroes, creating some kind of Pokémon-like content with djinns, etc.

Later on, when Smash Bros Ultimate will be out, we should do some operations like a video "Every fighters killed by Isaac" and the like. It will then be related to Smash Bros, meanwhile putting the focus on our beloved serie.

I already am working on Shantae and Isaac fanart crossovers as I support both of those characters to get in deeply and yeah I plan to do a lot Isaac support even after smash ultimate comes out in a month with my initial plan.

 

[Tetiro]

Speaking of GS trending after the trademark renewed. Did anyone manage to snip it? That's something we can @ Nintendo with on Golden Sunday just to get them aware that it trended.

You mean this thing? I snipped it for my local Nintendo facebook group

 

[KMDP]

It sucks Isaac is an Assist Trophy because you guys deserve a lot better. You guys really deserve Isaac because of how long you've fought for him, because of your desire for him, because of your passion for him, and because of your will power to not give up on him. As guy who was a K. Rool supporter and now is a K. Rool main, I salute you guys. Because of your dedication to Isaac, I want to support him. Count me in as a Isaac supporter starting today.

True Blue Warrior .

Welcome aboard.

Hope for the Streisand effect to happen.

Well, in order for the Streisand Effect to happen, you'd have to get people talking about r/SmashBros deleting all mentions of #GoldenSunday on other venues (and also keep mentioning it on r/SmashBros).

That being said, I don't think you can force the Streisand Effect to happen, ironically.
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Also, NoOtherPersona , have some mercy for the mobile users, okay? (by which I mean, mobile users can't load pages that have lots of videos on them)

 

[SonicLink125]

I'm alive, no worries. I've just taken a few days off from smashboards to just focus. Since the main portion of smash speculation is over, I've been a little busy with the channel. That being said, I'll be taking part in Golden Sunday and I'm always happy to help spread Isaac and Golden Sun to the masses. That being said, I'd rather not be a "leader" in that sense, as I feel like that places unwanted pressure on me at this time, as I've got other stuff to worry about as well.

So, what have I missed?

It's why we decided to have multiple leaders instead of just one because that would be overkill for the one. It will lessen the load and spread Golden Sun much faster having multiple. Which is why we nominated you leader for the YouTube platform. But we understand if you're unable to take the mantle.

KoopaSaki What style of Isaac cosplay will you be using? Classic or Adult? Or both?

 

[TappyBat]

You mean this thing? I snipped it for my local Nintendo facebook group

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good job tetiro! that should help!

 

[Loungemen]

I just want to say, my condolences. I haven't played a GS title, but Isaac would have been great. It kinda bugs me how he was one of the last ATs to be revealed after all this time.

 

[Tetiro]

good job tetiro! that should help!

Have to bring some rich culture into my group

 

[Frosty Pops]

I really really want to try out Golden Sun. Is it on the Wii U? Even so, I might just get a GBA Cartridge instead, either to have a more authentic experience or in case the Wii U version blows hard.

I kinda wish that Golden Sun, or the Lost Age, was on the 3DS Ambassador Program. (Let's say it replaced Mario Kart: Super Circuit, the worst game on there IMO or at least the most expendable). Then the series would probably thrive on to this day, as opposed to being left in the dust.

Yes you can get it on the eshop. The origional and second one. And playing on the pad is pretty authentic you just have a bigger screen so you can more easily absorb all the awesome when you summon judgment.

Edit: words n stuff

 

[Deleted member]

I was thinking... perhaps Nintendo could let Monolith Soft help out with a new Golden Sun? MS is basically Nintendo's premier RPG team at this point alongside Intelligent Systems, and MS helped out with BotW and Skyward Sword iirc so they have a precedent for these things. However, they're working on a new IP right now, and because most of their team was called to help the Zelda team with BotW Xenoblade Chronicles 2 suffered a bit in the technical department. So it might not be a good idea...

 

[Sabrewulf238]

The Isaac for Smash Ultimate Twitter account informing us of Golden Sunday uses the hashtag #BringGoldenSunBack but I've seen some other supporters in the movement using the #BringBackGoldenSun.

Same thing but different wording which may make it harder to trend. I'll go with the first one since that's what's on the Twitter infographic about Golden Sunday. It does make me wonder what other hashtags are worded differently like that. We could have the numbers that day to trend, but if everyone's using different hashtags could be a hindrance in that endeavor.

BringBackGoldenSun feels like it has more punch to it personally...but yeah we should decide on what hash tags to use in advance.

 

[KoopaSaki]

It's why we decided to have multiple leaders instead of just one because that would be overkill for the one. It will lessen the load and spread Golden Sun much faster having multiple. Which is why we nominated you leader for the YouTube platform. But we understand if you're unable to take the mantle.

KoopaSaki What style of Isaac cosplay will you be using? Classic or Adult? Or both?

I plan to cosplay as young Isaac. I can’t be adult Isaac cause I can’t grow a beard and my natural hair color is brown. I’m going to make sure to have all the necessary props. I got the Venus djinn and sword and sheath ready.

 

[TheSpaceKing12]

I was thinking... perhaps Nintendo could let Monolith Soft help out with a new Golden Sun? MS is basically Nintendo's premier RPG team at this point alongside Intelligent Systems, and MS helped out with BotW and Skyward Sword iirc so they have a precedent for these things. However, they're working on a new IP right now, and because most of their team was called to help the Zelda team with BotW Xenoblade Chronicles 2 suffered a bit in the technical department. So it might not be a good idea...

Monolith has two development departments. One stationed in Tokyo, which works on Xenoblade, another In Kyoto Which is responsible for developmnet assistance work with Nintendo. Kyoto worked on the Zelda games, but they don’t have that much experience with RPG’s. Kyoto also lended a hand, but unless we assuming all the hiring they’re doing right now is to expand assistance rather than the core team, monoliths hands might be tied. I planned on covering this Andre other potential candidates in my upcoming video.

 

[Sabrewulf238]

That's right, unfortunately.

We have to think about it further. Speaking of Golden Sun between us will not help us. We need to get exposure on unrelated communities, and especially big ones, and I feel that the best bet we have to do that is to create cross-over contents.

To our artists here, I would advise to do content with several characters who are not from Golden Sun. If you are youself part of other communities, it can be a good start. Imagining the main GS cast in Fire Emblem Heroes, creating some kind of Pokémon-like content with djinns, etc.

Later on, when Smash Bros Ultimate will be out, we should do some operations like a video "Every fighters killed by Isaac" and the like. It will then be related to Smash Bros, meanwhile putting the focus on our beloved serie.

I'm a little hesitant to commit to this but I had an idea for a mockup of the cover for Let's Go Pikachu/Eevee but replace them with Flint. (Let's Go Flint!)

It would be pretty topical this month.

It feels like it would be hard for me to match the artstyle of that cover art though...(I could give it a shot)

 

[TappyBat]

BringBackGoldenSun feels like it has more punch to it personally...but yeah we should decide on what hash tags to use in advance.

#GoldenSunday #Isaac4Smash #GoldenSun #ReviveGoldenSun

or use the ones on the picture

 

[NoOtherPersona]

True Blue Warrior .

Welcome aboard.

Well, in order for the Streisand Effect to happen, you'd have to get people talking about r/SmashBros deleting all mentions of #GoldenSunday on other venues (and also keep mentioning it on r/SmashBros).

That being said, I don't think you can force the Streisand Effect to happen, ironically.
---
Also, NoOtherPersona , have some mercy for the mobile users, okay? (by which I mean, mobile users can't load pages that have lots of videos on them)

Sorry I didn't know haha

 

[TempestSurge]

#GoldenSunday #Isaac4Smash #GoldenSun #ReviveGoldenSun

or use the ones on the picture

Yeah since the Golden Sunday picture has been retweeted about 300 times. It might be better to stick with the #BringGoldenSunBack hashtag to go along with the majority who's getting their info from that picture. Even if I feel BringBackGoldenSun rolls better off the tongue.

 

[TheSpaceKing12]

If smash reddit won’t deal with us, than I assume Nintendo reddit, YouTube, and twitter will. Gonna out on a limb and assume that those places are still bigger than smash reddit. we mostly need to get Nintendo’s attention, first and foremost.