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Sunrise, Sunset - Isaac for Smash Ultimate #GoldenSunday

N3ON

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I think, should that theory prove true, the most telling aspect is that (more) select ATs can be KO'd now. That would balance their presence should you have to fight against (or with) them in some specific mode. So seems like, if any, those may be the ones that could play additional roles.
 
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I was thinking, if Isaac become playable, maybe Jenna will be a AT for the GS franchise?
Still hoping to Isaac in Smash 4 they distracted me with Robin, now they're out of characters I really love after Isaac
 

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I was thinking, if Isaac become playable, maybe Jenna will be a AT for the GS franchise?
Still hoping to Isaac in Smash 4 they distracted me with Robin, now they're out of characters I really love after Isaac
Jenna or Matthew are my AT predictions. Matthew would literally just be Brawl Isaac's AT. Jenna could be this modern more advanced AT style.
 

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yeah i dont know why.. they think binding of isaac.. its like there wasnt a thread all the time since the direct about isaac..
 
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I was thinking, if Isaac become playable, maybe Jenna will be a AT for the GS franchise?
Still hoping to Isaac in Smash 4 they distracted me with Robin, now they're out of characters I really love after Isaac
Jenna as an AT with fume as her attack seems like a no brainer to me.
 

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That 4chan thread wrinkles my brain but at least it shows Isaac is getting more prevalent again.
 

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From the 4chan thread:
"I would legit not buy the game if Isaac was in. Isaac is disgusting with all the **** and piss and menstrual blood in his game. First time i picked up the mother's used rag in the game i almost gagged."

lol. Sucks how more people know about Binding of Isaac then Golden Sun. Like ask anyone "Think of a video game with a character named 'Isaac'" and 90% would answer Binding of Isaac

It's still a great indie game tho
 
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From the 4chan thread:
"I would legit not buy the game if Isaac was in. Isaac is disgusting with all the **** and piss and menstrual blood in his game. First time i picked up the mother's used rag in the game i almost gagged."

lol. Sucks how more people know about Binding of Isaac then Golden Sun. Like ask anyone "Think of a video game with a character named 'Isaac'" and 90% would answer Binding of Isaac

It's still a great indie game tho
yeah.. but at this point it is a meme not to know Isaac
 

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Welp, at least Sakurai won't make the same mistake and add BoI Isaac. Thank god we had to add game names with our ballot entries.
 

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It's just a waiting game now, until we see proof, or see another leak.

DLC? Main Roster? Who knows? Only time will tell.

Smash 4 might of had no trophy or AT but it had one piece of GS music.
Hopefully, Smash Ultimate gets a good handful amount of tracks. GS had amazing music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhL0QCFX78E
The GS Restored project was the closest thing to HD music
 

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It's just a waiting game now, until we see proof, or see another leak.

DLC? Main Roster? Who knows? Only time will tell.

Smash 4 might of had no trophy or AT but it had one piece of GS music.
Hopefully, Smash Ultimate gets a good handful amount of tracks. GS had amazing music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhL0QCFX78E
The GS Restored project was the closest thing to HD music
Smash 4 had two songs, not one :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mcGep11o-g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POwC4nxcxlY&t
 

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Oh wow! I did not know about Weyard's song!
Well, the good thing is Golden Sun was not completely stripped from smash.

Crossing my fingers for more!

Just imagine hearing Venus Lighthouse! Ugh! I am smiling just thinking about the possibilities

In the end, even if the sun does not rise, I am so happy to see such a community! Golden Sun fans are fans forever.
 

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I saw someone suggest that the Black Knight could be a boss in the story mode and that immediately made me think Soren would make sense solely because there could be a Tellius-repping boss in the game.

Having Isaac, Felix and Soren revealed all in one Direct would be an 1-2-3 punch that would instantly KO'd me.
 

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I saw someone suggest that the Black Knight could be a boss in the story mode and that immediately made me think Soren would make sense solely because there could be a Tellius-repping boss in the game.

Having Isaac, Felix and Soren revealed all in one Direct would be an 1-2-3 punch that would instantly KO'd me.
That sounds very interesting. From that point of view, even the leak makes sense. EVEN GALACTA KNIGHT. He would fit in the Hero Vs Villain theme and could be playable and a boss in the story mode (like bowser, ganondorf probably will be)

EDIT: Last night (for me it was night) i was so hyped because of that website thing we found out that i couldnt sleep until like 3:30 a.m... today this idea will make me sleepless. It is so awesome that we get a hint (or we at least make hints) for Isaac everyday. Best time of the year :)
 
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I think this whole Marisa thing is just 4Chan being 4Chan and trolling the hell out of everyone. It's kinda funny tbh. :laugh:

Except for the fact that we want to hold on to any credible leaks that have Isaac in them. :urg:

As awesome as a trailer as that would be (Mostly because it confirms three characters I want in the game still), there is no precedent for Sakurai showing off multiple characters from different series in the same trailer.
Are you sure about that? :p
 

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Question: Would Djinn be better as an assist trophy or as an item like Mr. Saturn?

If they were an item, I can imagine them sticking on you when you pick them up and they would give you elemental effects in your attacks depending on the Djinn you got. That would be sweet!
 

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Question: Would Djinn be better as an assist trophy or as an item like Mr. Saturn?
I think the coolest option would be to integrate them into Isaac's moveset. Maybe have a few Djinn which you can switch around (like Shulk). His attacks can vary depending on the Djinn he has equipped, representing different types of Psynergy.

Other than that, I think having them as ATs to attack your oponents would be pretty cool. I'd be good either way, I just want their cuteness in Smash. Embarrass:love:
 

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I would like if his specials would be 4 different Djinn, that he has to have used all in order to have Judgment as his final SMASH, if he used only 1 Djinn then it will be just the Venus summon. If he uses the same special move again, it won't do anything but the Djinn gets set back, then he has to try and use it, a bit time consuming (maybe even confusing?) but this would be true to the mechanics of Golden Sun. Of course his normal moves would be Psynergy based. His sword can be just a taunt, that way he will be different from other sword users :laugh:
 

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I would like if his specials would be 4 different Djinn, that he has to have used all in order to have Judgment as his final SMASH, if he used only 1 Djinn then it will be just the Venus summon. If he uses the same special move again, it won't do anything but the Djinn gets set back, then he has to try and use it, a bit time consuming (maybe even confusing?) but this would be true to the mechanics of Golden Sun. Of course his normal moves would be Psynergy based. His sword can be just a taunt, that way he will be different from other sword users :laugh:
I feel like Flint would have to be in Isaac’s moveset somehow. Maybe as a chargeable neutral B? In my opinion the most satisfying attack in Golden Sun was unleashing Flint.
 

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Figured I might as well (FINALLY) make an account here since I've been following this thread since the Smash 4 days. So anyway, hey! Long time Isaac supporter, have been rooting for the boy since Smash 4's release, count me in the list of supporters.
 

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I feel like Flint would have to be in Isaac’s moveset somehow. Maybe as a chargeable neutral B? In my opinion the most satisfying attack in Golden Sun was unleashing Flint.
Flint is the more iconic Djinn! He has to be in! Flintfor5MASH

Figured I might as well (FINALLY) make an account here since I've been following this thread since the Smash 4 days. So anyway, hey! Long time Isaac supporter, have been rooting for the boy since Smash 4's release, count me in the list of supporters.
Welcome!
 
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Another thing to note is that it's not uncommon for web developers to take an existing site, edit it, and repurpose it as another website with similar or identical contexts. It saves money on buying a new domain for the website, and you start with a general framework for the website.

Basically, this website could be being repurposed to be anything, but it would make a lot of sense for it to become a Golden Sun portal for the above reasons since anyone with the Dark Dawn link embedded somewhere could be relinked to this new Golden Sun portal
 
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That sounds very interesting. From that point of view, even the leak makes sense. EVEN GALACTA KNIGHT. He would fit in the Hero Vs Villain theme and could be playable and a boss in the story mode (like bowser, ganondorf probably will be)

EDIT: Last night (for me it was night) i was so hyped because of that website thing we found out that i couldnt sleep until like 3:30 a.m... today this idea will make me sleepless. It is so awesome that we get a hint (or we at least make hints) for Isaac everyday. Best time of the year :)
That website update gave me hope. Idk, I just wish Medaknight didnt have that Galacta Knight Skin. That is just what ruins it for me.


Question: Would Djinn be better as an assist trophy or as an item like Mr. Saturn?

If they were an item, I can imagine them sticking on you when you pick them up and they would give you elemental effects in your attacks depending on the Djinn you got. That would be sweet!
I can see em as like powered up versions of Mr. Saturn. They walk around, you pick em up and throw em and they do an elemental attack, however, you hit em, they do an elemental attack on you.

I would like if his specials would be 4 different Djinn, that he has to have used all in order to have Judgment as his final SMASH, if he used only 1 Djinn then it will be just the Venus summon. If he uses the same special move again, it won't do anything but the Djinn gets set back, then he has to try and use it, a bit time consuming (maybe even confusing?) but this would be true to the mechanics of Golden Sun. Of course his normal moves would be Psynergy based. His sword can be just a taunt, that way he will be different from other sword users :laugh:
Maybe the more Djinn you use the less power you have? Kinda to mimic the whole you lose HP/PP when you set a Djinn.
 

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I think the coolest option would be to integrate them into Isaac's moveset. Maybe have a few Djinn which you can switch around (like Shulk). His attacks can vary depending on the Djinn he has equipped, representing different types of Psynergy.

Other than that, I think having them as ATs to attack your oponents would be pretty cool. I'd be good either way, I just want their cuteness in Smash. Embarrass:love:
I have a theory swirling around in my head right now.

So Villager has his pocket icon on his percentage window when he has something in his pocket and Cloud has his limit bar in the exact same location.

Little Mac has his KO meter above the percentage window and Robin has his weapon durability meter in the same spot.

We have Shulk's new way to switch into Monado arts quickly, but he is the only character that has something like this unlike the characters I mentioned above.

I think three options are possible
1. Isaac gets a way to switch his djinn around like that if that is in his moveset.
2. Same as option, but Felix comes in as an echo as uses it so more characters utilize that quick swap.
3. Malos comes in as an echo of Shulk and uses it.

I wish all 3 of these options were true, but that's for Sakurai to decide.
 

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We're basically on pins and needles now waiting until something else happens. If we got snubbed again, it would blow my mind completely as it just doesn't make any sense anymore. This will be a tremendous game, and even more so if Isaac can be included in it. It makes sense that he hasn't been revealed yet simply because the Castlevania guys and K. Rool are just more fuel to the hype train after coming off the back of Ridley.

That, I guess is the only thing that scares me with the final trailer that comes along. Is it a case of saving the best for last in characters Sakurai knows will add a lot of steam to an already ridiculous cast? Probably, yes, and you have to ask yourself which characters are capable of accomplishing that. Skull Kid, Bandana Dee, and Geno? Maybe at the front of the video. Probably the Monster Hunter that feels impending. Banjo would definitely be a good curtain closer at the end being so iconic. I just really hope Isaac is somewhere in there. I feel hopeful coming from this thread but not so hopeful with my own logic. Probably because after Brawl and Sm4sh, it feels like Groundhog Day or an episode of the Twilight Zone.
 

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Hi! I’ve supported Isaac for Smash for a while now, and nows the time to go out of my way to show my support! It honestly warms my heart how such a forgotten series can have this much fan support behind it, and I think that’s why Isaac should be in Smash. The fact this is the most popular thread for newcomers still in the running shows that. I feel like some people don’t get how important Smash is to Isaac. Because it’s not just his character, ya his series on the line. It’s quite literally a matter of revival or eternal death for Golden Sun, because if there’s one thing that has a chance to bring it back it’s Smash. Now that we know the ballot clearly had an effect, this is most likely Isaac’s final shot. His chances are better than ever now. From now on I’ll be here to support him with you guys!
 

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We're basically on pins and needles now waiting until something else happens. If we got snubbed again, it would blow my mind completely as it just doesn't make any sense anymore. This will be a tremendous game, and even more so if Isaac can be included in it. It makes sense that he hasn't been revealed yet simply because the Castlevania guys and K. Rool are just more fuel to the hype train after coming off the back of Ridley.

That, I guess is the only thing that scares me with the final trailer that comes along. Is it a case of saving the best for last in characters Sakurai knows will add a lot of steam to an already ridiculous cast? Probably, yes, and you have to ask yourself which characters are capable of accomplishing that. Skull Kid, Bandana Dee, and Geno? Maybe at the front of the video. Probably the Monster Hunter that feels impending. Banjo would definitely be a good curtain closer at the end being so iconic. I just really hope Isaac is somewhere in there. I feel hopeful coming from this thread but not so hopeful with my own logic. Probably because after Brawl and Sm4sh, it feels like Groundhog Day or an episode of the Twilight Zone.
I'm most likely wrong, but I noticed they tend to introduce a new series first so they can talk about it and then show a new character in an existing series at the end.

Golden Sun would show up first as a new series for Smash and then they would announce either Skull Kid, Bandana Dee, Geno (technically part of the Mario series as I see it, but would definitely be insane hype at the end too), etc. for their existing series. It makes sense doing it that way. But who knows.
 

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I'm most likely wrong, but I noticed they tend to introduce a new series first so they can talk about it and then show a new character in an existing series at the end.

Golden Sun would show up first as a new series for Smash and then they would announce either Skull Kid, Bandana Dee, Geno (technically part of the Mario series as I see it, but would definitely be insane hype at the end too), etc. for their existing series. It makes sense doing it that way. But who knows.
Yeah first it was new (Inkling Girl/Boy- Splatoon) and old (Ridley - Metroid) then new (Simon/Richter- Castlevania) then old (King K.Rool - Donkey Kong) so hopefully next direct that new franchise is Golden Sun with either Geno, Skull Kid or Bandana Dee like you said. And there may be a trend going on which may not be the case but who knows of having a first party IP then a third party IP being new. So next direct there is a slight chance of a new Nintendo IP joining if my wild prediction is even right and that IP better be Golden Sun
 
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I'm most likely wrong, but I noticed they tend to introduce a new series first so they can talk about it and then show a new character in an existing series at the end.

Golden Sun would show up first as a new series for Smash and then they would announce either Skull Kid, Bandana Dee, Geno (technically part of the Mario series as I see it, but would definitely be insane hype at the end too), etc. for their existing series. It makes sense doing it that way. But who knows.
i could see Isacc getting reveled with someone else i always see him saving someone with his earth powers like if its in skull kids trailer it be right after skull kid is shown off he's gonna do something bad to say young link and then Isacc comes out of nowhere and uses his powers to form a wall between link and skull kid and bam Isacc it sounds silly but it could get the point across
 
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