Sunrise, Sunset - Isaac for Smash Ultimate #GoldenSunday

[DogManStar]

Exactly this.

Come on people, they obviously won't reveal the complete list if a new character is associated to one of the stages. We KNOW more characters are coming, why wouldn't more stages be coming too? The new stage count would be pretty low otherwise.

The way Sakurai worded it made it sound as if the total amount of stages was going to be 103, which might imply no new stages.

 

[isaac3000]

Exactly what iam8bit said! New stages who are bound to new characters will be kept hidden for obvious reasons!

 

[Sabrewulf238]

I've been out of the loop for a while. What did the Vergeben and Soren leaks have to say about Isaac?

I don't think Vergeben said anything about Isaac.

People think the Soren leak has more validity now because it predicted that Chrom would be an echo of Roy. (when most people were thinking he'd be an echo of Ike) There's probably also the fact that it mentioned Ken as an echo of Ryu and todays direct confirmed that echos of third party characters are possible now. Isaac is playable according to the Soren leak.

I don't really buy it either but at the same time it's kinda nice to have a somewhat possible "leak" actually include Isaac for once.

Though the fact that it being true would mean we'd get yet another Fire Emblem rep makes me think it's more likely...

 

[N3ON]

Well they're not going to reveal a stage if it would hint at a character being playable before they're ready to reveal the character.

If anything it could point to the remaining handful of stages being dedicated to new franchises or being revealed in conjunction with other newcomers from existing franchises that would probably warrant a new stage. (like Elma or a Gen 7 Pokemon) I don't think we're getting anymore new "nostalgia for nostalgias sake" stages like the gameboy Kirby stage. Whatever new stages we get now will probably be tied to newcomers in some way, or relevant games like Xenoblade X, Arms or Pokemon Sun/Moon.

I get where you're coming from but at the same time I don't think we know enough to be sure how it's going to pan out.

I mean I certainly don't believe we're getting a flood of new stages, we're almost certainly talking about single digits here. (most likely 6 or less based on the stage selection screen)

Exactly this.

Come on people, they obviously won't reveal the complete list if a new character is associated to one of the stages. We KNOW more characters are coming, why wouldn't more stages be coming too? The new stage count would be pretty low otherwise.

Exactly what iam8bit said! New stages who are bound to new characters will be kept hidden for obvious reasons!

Do you think we're asking why they didn't reveal all the stages? Obviously they weren't going to reveal stages of potentially unrevealed series, but that wouldn't have precluded them from either being less absolute in their numbering, or revealing the "true" number of stages, without revealing all the stages themselves.

There's a lot of middle-ground, and they went for a perplexing option, should there actually be additional stages.

The Soren leak? What are the deets for that Neon?

Uhhh... lemme go find it.

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I might delete this post soon since I don't want to cause the source I got this information from any trouble though I can't help it to share this information out of curiosity, even if it won't stay here for too long.

Here is some basic information that I've got:

- The Fire Emblem Series won't receive any newcomers but 2 who are based on existing fighters
- The Legend of Zelda Series won't receive any newcomers
- The Pokemon Series won't receive any newcomers
- Something about an addition to Cloud was mentioned, though I don't know for now if it's gonna be another Final Fantasy character or some other Square Enix character

There are gonna be 12 newcomers in total from which 5 of them are going to be based on other fighters.

For the new ones I only got information on 3 characters who should appear in this title:

- Simon Belmont
- King K. Rool
- Isaac
- X
- X
- X
- X

As for the 5 who are based on other fighters I could also just get the name of 3 of them:

- Chrom based on Roy (appearently with other effects than flames?)
- Soren (I don't know about any changes but he willl be based on Robin)
- Ken ( Based on Ryu with Flame effects)
- X
- X

Some of those will be announced very soon.

Take it or leave it I don't care, I will delete this post soon anyways.

 

[ThoughtfulWanderer]

I don't think Vergeben said anything about Isaac.

People think the Soren leak has more validity now because it predicted that Chrom would be an echo of Roy. (when most people were thinking he'd be an echo of Ike) There's probably also the fact that it mentioned Ken as an echo of Ryu and todays direct confirmed that echos of third party characters are possible now. Isaac is a part of the Soren leak.

I don't really buy it either but at the same time it's kinda nice to have a somewhat possible "leak" actually include Isaac for once.

Though the fact that it being true would mean we'd get yet another Fire Emblem rep makes me think it's more likely...

That leak said that Chrom would have "apparently other effects than flames". I didn't see any "other effects" aesthetically on Chrom aside from the addition of Aether if that counts. Did they mean in terms of sweetspots ala Marth's tipper and Roy's hilt?

 

[EricTheGamerman]

Well, I was certain that King K. Rool would come with a Gangplank Galleon stage and he didn't. I think that it's entirely possible other newcomers won't have new stages with them. Would it be weird for characters like Isaac and Geno to NOT have a unique stage? Absolutely. Is it unreasonable the more I think about it? No.

So even if this is the final stage count, which I don't think it is, it doesn't hurt the chances of newcomers still not deconfirmed.

 

[Sabrewulf238]

Soren is such a WTF Fire Emblem character that it honestly wouldn't shock me if he was in. That it would even more infuriating because of him being a (relatively) obscure Fire Emblem character only makes it seem more possible.

You just KNOW somehow Fire Emblem will get another character despite people saying it's had enough. It's like a meme at this point.

Still I do think that the Soren "leak" just won the leak lottery and just got some undeserved validity. I mean there were something like 500 "leaks" right? One of them was bound to end up sounding right after a direct.

 

[ThoughtfulWanderer]

Well, I was certain that King K. Rool would come with a Gangplank Galleon stage and he didn't. I think that it's entirely possible other newcomers won't have new stages with them. Would it be weird for characters like Isaac and Geno to NOT have a unique stage? Absolutely. Is it unreasonable the more I think about it? No.

So even if this is the final stage count, which I don't think it is, it doesn't hurt the chances of newcomers still not deconfirmed.

See, the problem with this is that K. Rool is a fighter of a veteran series with preexisting stages, and Gangplank would be very similar to the already confirmed Pirate Ship. It may just be that newcomers of veteran franchises just don't get new stages, which wouldn't be unheard of.

 

[N3ON]

Soren is such a WTF Fire Emblem character that it honestly wouldn't shock me if he was in. That it would even more infuriating because of him being a (relatively) obscure Fire Emblem character only makes it seem more possible.

You just KNOW somehow Fire Emblem will get another character despite people saying it's had enough. It's like a meme at this point.

Still I do think that the Soren "leak" just won the leak lottery and just got some undeserved validity. I mean there were something like 500 "leaks" right? One of them was bound to end up sounding right after a direct.

Yeah, none of the individual claims that came true were ridiculous or uncommon (esp. Simon & K. Rool), it was just luckily including the right combination that still keeps this leak in play.

 

[Bassoonist]

It's true, I think it's more likely that the Soren 'leak' just got lucky, instead of really gaining credibility.

I just want Isaac to be in a credible leak for once.

 

[Sabrewulf238]

For what it's worth, is Soren popular in Japan?

Is it possible that we're underestimating how well he did on the ballot over there?

 

[Billybae10K]

Question - Was the Soren leak posted before or after Nintendo's E3 Direct?

 

[N3ON]

For what it's worth, is Soren popular in Japan?

Is it possible that we're underestimating how well he did on the ballot over there?

Not popular enough that this would make sense, especially given how different Soren and Robin are. There are many other more popular FE characters over there as well.

Question - Was the Soren leak posted before or after Nintendo's E3 Direct?

After.

 

[Sabrewulf238]

Question - Was the Soren leak posted before or after Nintendo's E3 Direct?

It must have been after. I think we would all remember a leak mentioning echoes even before they were announced.

 

[isaac3000]

Something else I noticed, Diddy took Isaac's potential space on the big artwork, namely in front of the Sun, next to Sheik...

I liked to imagine that spot was reserved for Isaac

 

[DogManStar]

Something else I noticed, Diddy took Isaac's potential space on the big artwork, namely in front of the Sun, next to Sheik...

I liked to imagine that spot was reserved for Isaac

I wouldn't worry about spots, they moved characters around on the mural for these new characters, so he could still have that spot, and it doesn't really mean anything for his chances.

 

[Billybae10K]

Ah, if it's after E3 then I'm guessing Daisy, Ridley and Inklings weren't included in the roster... That could make sense.

Spoiler

- Simon Belmont
- King K. Rool
- Isaac
- Isabelle
- Gen 7 Poke
- Skull Kid (I hear Skull Kid got a rep boost by Loz18)
- X (Literally anyone else)

As for the 5 who are based on other fighters I could also just get the name of 3 of them:

- Chrom
- Soren
- Ken
- Richter
- Dark Samus

Obviously, I don't think Soren is happening, but the leak does line up with info we know so far.

 

[iam8bit]

I don't really buy it either but at the same time it's kinda nice to have a somewhat possible "leak" actually include Isaac for once.

Though the fact that it being true would mean we'd get yet another Fire Emblem rep makes me think it's more likely...

I actually kinda like the idea of Soren being an Echo of Robin. I liked that character in the original FE.

But I mean, I'll take any leak that includes Isaac and seems a bit credible.

 

[Sabrewulf238]

Ah, if it's after E3 then I'm guessing Daisy, Ridley and Inklings weren't included in the roster... That could make sense.

Spoiler

- Simon Belmont
- King K. Rool
- Isaac
- Isabelle
- Gen 7 Poke
- Skull Kid (I hear Skull Kid got a rep boost by Loz18)
- X (Literally anyone else)

As for the 5 who are based on other fighters I could also just get the name of 3 of them:

- Chrom
- Soren
- Ken
- Richter
- Dark Samus

Obviously, I don't think Soren is happening, but the leak does line up with info we know so far.

What do you mean Skull Kid got a rep boost?

and I'd put Banjo & Kazooie in that X slot. Since Vergeben mentioned Minecraft (non playable) content, it's not that much of a stretch to think Microsoft involvement would mean Banjo & Kazooie.

I'd probably put Bandana Dee or Shadow in place of Skull Kid. or Dixie.....or Elma.

Can you tell I want this to be real?

 

[Arsenal234]

That leak said that Chrom would have "apparently other effects than flames". I didn't see any "other effects" aesthetically on Chrom aside from the addition of Aether if that counts. Did they mean in terms of sweetspots ala Marth's tipper and Roy's hilt?

Look at Chrom's 20 second character trailer on the website. When Chrom is using Roy's neutral B it has a wind effect on it when he is charging it, also his up smash has the same effect.

 

[Altais]

Soren would be amazing. He's one of mine favourite FE characters of all time. That said, however, I'm still calling shenanigans on that leak. Chrom was a fairly obvious choice, and I personally figured he would be an Echo of either Ike or Roy.

As for Isaac, we only have roughly four months left, and the closer we get to launch, the more likely we are to get genuine leaks. That said, now that we know Sakurai plans to reveal every fighter prior to launch, I fancy we'll know Isaac's fate quite soon.

 

[iam8bit]

I was just reading about this 2006 popularity poll that Sakurai revealed pre-Brawl and Soren is included in it.

So either this leaker knew about the poll or he has more cred than we thought.

 

[Huanchi]

Hey. I am new here on the board. First of all i would like to be on that supporter list.

I made an account after lerking just to say that i think that the Soren Leak is way more legit than what Vergeben leaked. Maybe Soren is one of Sakurais favoured FE Characters.. he is biased towards his favoured games/characters . Or he just thinks we love FE and Robin and he get an alternate magic dud

 

[Billybae10K]

What do you mean Skull Kid got a rep boost?

and I'd put Banjo & Kazooie in that X slot. Since Vergeben mentioned Minecraft (non playable) content, it's not that much of a stretch to think Microsoft involvement would mean Banjo & Kazooie.

I'd probably put Bandana Dee or Shadow in place of Skull Kid. or Dixie.....or Elma.

Can you tell I want this to be real?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/76883130#qp

Check loz18's message, second on the board.

 

[Nimbostratus]

Well, now that K. Rool is in, Isaac is my undoubted most wanted. Isaac did well on most every poll I've seen about the Ballot (even though people often try to minimize poll results as skewed, but ehh) which is pretty helpful considering how influential the Ballot seems to be with the choices we've gotten. Isaac received my vote for sure, since I didn't really think K. Rool needed an extra boost. I wouldn't be surprised to see a significant overlap of K. Rool and Isaac fans, so I'm hoping we will see the Golden Boy's support be reenergized now that the King is in.

It does feel like revealing an Isaac Assist Trophy alongside Gray Fox would have made a lot of sense, so I'm slightly hopeful now that Isaac has survived when others have not. If the Assist Trophy isn't back, it obviously can only mean one of two things:
1. Nintendo has heard our cries for Golden Sun, and has graciously answered by making Isaac playable in Smash. We will get an awesome reveal trailer, stage, music, and trophies.
2. Nintendo is literally trying to obliterate all evidence of Golden Sun's existence from memory.
So there are only small stakes at play here.

Ok, I'm joking, but there is a little bit of truth to it.
Anyways, I'm happy with what I've seen of the game regardless, but Isaac would be the cherry on top. Let's make it happen!

 

[Baddies are back]

Really I can only see two possibilities for Isaac and Golden Sun at this point. Either we get everything or we get nothing, he'll either be playable or we aren't going to have anything Golden Sun related in the game.

 

[ferioku]

You guys don't understand how fast my heart was beating during most of that direct. A feeling of Isaac either being an assist trophy or not shown was getting to my head...

Right now I actually hope and pray that Isaac becomes playable, my hope has increased ten folds! This is the best chance for real! Any moveset will even get me hyped and how I honestly see it is that Isaac has the LARGEST movepool potential. It is not even a debate, he has so much going for him that I can't actually find any characters with a larger or more unique movepool - I mean like common, the guy can throw hands with the master hand( no pun intended)!
Sakurai is also a huge fan of JRPG and loves nostalgia so thats three points!

With this many fan outcries and Sakurai acknowledging less potent characters as even assist trophies in Sm4sh, it truly does get to me, I mean like, isn't it getting to anyone else here =/?

A lot of people believe that he will be playable but I feel like history could repeat itself with a huge rain of disappointments - there is no way that Sakurai does not remember him...

I'm not saying this to bash any of the currently announced characters because i'm truly happy that their fans have received a blessing and finally got the character that they deserve, but Golden Sun truly is one of my favourite games and this goes for a lot of people too. I know it may be selfish that I'm behaving this way but even if he doesn't become a playable character, Camelot should at least know that the fans want another game, especially when promising us we will get one depending on our outcry!

Siiighhh, sorry about this rant, in my mind I just keep getting that weird feeling that Isaac and Golden Sun will get neglected again, guess we'll just have to wait and see...

So many potential characters, you just never know who's next with the limited amount of newcomers...

 

[Bassoonist]

Really I can only see two possibilities for Isaac and Golden Sun at this point. Either we get everything or we get nothing, he'll either be playable or we aren't going to have anything Golden Sun related in the game.

I don't think that is necessarily true. We don't know the reasons he never returned as an Assist Trophy in SSB4. Super Smash Bros Ultimate is taking a blatantly comprehensive "everyone is here" approach, and I think that could count toward Assist Trophies as well. So I have a feeling that if Isaac doesn't make it as a playable character, he will as an Assist Trophy.

 

[DogManStar]

I really hope we at least get something in this game. People have gotten mad at me for asking for "yet another anime swordsman" or a "character from a franchise no one cares about", but plenty of people care about Isaac, and imagine how they feel when a series they love gets absolutely nothing substantial after at least having an AT at one point. I'll probably just give up on serious speculation if we don't get anything yet again. That would be such a disappointment.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

Here to give support to one of my top 5 most wanted newcomers since the Brawl speculation days, lol (top 3 if you consider only characters with a real chance). Now top 3 in this game (top 1 if only considering chars with a real chance).

Now's your chance Isaac.

Hey. I am new here on the board. First of all i would like to be on that supporter list.

I made an account after lerking just to say that i think that the Soren Leak is way more legit than what Vergeben leaked. Maybe Soren is one of Sakurais favoured FE Characters.. he is biased towards his favoured games/characters . Or he just thinks we love FE and Robin and he get an alternate magic dud

I've updated the list.

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1. _Sheik
2. 1/128
3. 9Blades
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5. *Verrix*
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[ferioku]

I don't think that is necessarily true. We don't know the reasons he never returned as an Assist Trophy in SSB4. Super Smash Bros Ultimate is taking a blatantly comprehensive "everyone is here" approach, and I think that could count toward Assist Trophies as well. So I have a feeling that if Isaac doesn't make it as a playable character, he will as an Assist Trophy.

At least add him as an assist trophy, especially after taunting us like that in Sm4sh... T_T

 

[NoOtherPersona]

You guys don't understand how fast my heart was beating during most of that direct. A feeling of Isaac either being an assist trophy or not shown was getting to my head...

Right now I actually hope and pray that Isaac becomes playable, my hope has increased ten folds! This is the best chance for real! Any moveset will even get me hyped and how I honestly see it is that Isaac has the LARGEST movepool potential. It is not even a debate, he has so much going for him that I can't actually find any characters with a larger or more unique movepool - I mean like common, the guy can throw hands with the master hand( no pun intended)!
Sakurai is also a huge fan of JRPG and loves nostalgia so thats three points!

With this many fan outcries and Sakurai acknowledging less potent characters as even assist trophies in Sm4sh, it truly does get to me, I mean like, isn't it getting to anyone else here =/?

A lot of people believe that he will be playable but I feel like history could repeat itself with a huge rain of disappointments - there is no way that Sakurai does not remember him...

I'm not saying this to bash any of the currently announced characters because i'm truly happy that their fans have received a blessing and finally got the character that they deserve, but Golden Sun truly is one of my favourite games and this goes for a lot of people too. I know it may be selfish that I'm behaving this way but even if he doesn't become a playable character, Camelot should at least know that the fans want another game, especially when promising us we will get one depending on our outcry!

Siiighhh, sorry about this rant, in my mind I just keep getting that weird feeling that Isaac and Golden Sun will get neglected again, guess we'll just have to wait and see...

So many potential characters, you just never know who's next with the limited amount of newcomers...

listen man when you get snubbed twice its easier to just roll with the punches and just say meh but i think we have our shot this time stay faithful my friend

 

[OptimisticStrifer]

I've updated the list.

Spoiler

1. _Sheik
2. 1/128
3. 9Blades
4. ☆Jisatsu☆
5. *Verrix*
6. Accursed
7. Adeptmune
8. Agk0001
9. AgatioGanon
10. Aguki90
11. airConditioner
12. aldelaro5
13. alguidrag
14. Altais
15. Amberloo
16. AncientArk
17. andimidna
18. Androobie
19. Apollyon
20. Aqua Rock X
21. AquaDork1
22. AquaSol
23. Arcadenik
24. Arsenal234,
25. Arteen
26. Asian_Charizard
27. Astraltar
28. Aureola
29. Aurora Jenny
30. AustarusIV
31. AwesomeCauliflower68
32. Awesomedude444
33. Backgammon
34. Balgorxz
35. BandannaWaddleDee
36. Bane84
37. bassem6
38. Bassoonist
39. Billybae10k
40. Bingoshi
41. Bkupa666
42. Blackwolf666
43. Blaziken
44. BluePikmin11
45. BoltDragon
46. BoN~
47. Bowser-Daimao
48. BravadoMan_13
49. BridgesWithTurtles
50. Browny
51. Buddy002
52. Bunny8093
53. BUnit
54. Burruni
55. Calane
56. CactusBlah
57. candyissweet
58. Capita
59. Cap'nChreest
60. Captain Toad
61. CardStealer1
62. Chapter Serf
63. CheckmateChuck
64. CheeseBroJoe
65. Cheezey Bites
66. Chromfirmed
67. ChronoPenguin
68. ClinkStryphart
69. CliffJumper
70. cocy965
71. Cos.
72. Coaltergeist
73. Crap-Zapper
74. CrossDispatcher
75. cybersai
76. Dalek_Kolt
77. Darkdarkness
78. DatoSm
79. Dendros
80. Desert Croc
81. Destroyer713
82. Dezeray112
83. Dhragen
84. Diddy Kong
85. Dimensionsword64
86. DivinexRose
87. DJ3DS
88. DJBor
89. D-Man9293
90. DogManStar
91. DoodleDuck97
92. Doncalot
93. DraginHikari
94. Drakonis
95. Dromader
96. DukeNapoleon
97. DustyPumpkin
98. e105beta
99. Eagle
100. EclipseSmash
101. EddyBearr
102. ED Cantu
103. Edlocke
104. egaddmario
105. ElPanandero
106. El Syd
107. EndlessChrom
108. EndlessRain
109. EnhaloTricks
110. EricTheGamerman
111. ETFruitNinja
112. ethanrodgers223
113. Ezequileste
114. Falgor
115. Falkoopa
116. False Sense
117. FamiconDisk
118. Felix_the_Slayer
119. fenyx4
120. ferioku
121. Fire Rider
122. Fire_Voyager
123. FirstBlade
124. Flareon
125. Flintike
126. fogbadge.
127. foolssigma
128. FreddyOnDrugs
129. Friesnchip
130. GalacticPetey
131. Geno Boost
132. Ghirahilda
133. GladiusVortex
134. GM_3826
135. Golden Icarus
136. GoodGrief741
137. Gotann
138. GraveEclipse567
139. heylodom
140. Huanchi
141. hwrdjacob
142. iam8bit
143. Icana
144. iDazedX_x
145. Inawordyes
146. IntelliHeath1
147. Invisible Shiny Bulbasaur
148. isaac3000
149. Isaac: Venus Adept
150. IvanQuote
151. JaidynReiman
152. Jak_spoon
153. Jamurai
154. JDogindy
155. JohnnySparkxs
156. Just a random scrub
157. jweb22
158. KCCHIEFS27
159. KeniththeGatherer
160. KeybladeSmasher
161. Kikaru
162. Kind Dedede
163. KingCloud
164. KingShadow
165. KiraYoshikage
166. KirbyDragon
167. Kirbyfan391
168. Kisae
169. KMDP
170. KoalaNut
171. Kokirikory
172. Koori
173. Kremling Man
174. Kumatora
175. Kycse
176. Lady Palutena
177. Lampy
178. LaniusShrike
179. lanky_gunner
180. LasermasterA
181. Leafeon523
182. LeeYawshee
183. legendofrob1
184. LemmyKoopa
185. lightdasher
186. LightheartedBum
187. Lightosia
188. Linq
189. Lisbon Mapping
190. littl-myth
191. Liverpool19
192. Lone (Thirteenth)
193. Lonodel
194. Lord-Zero
195. Lucanic
196. Lucimar
197. Ludjinnado
198. lunarum
199. Lukingordex
200. Lurxy
201. M23-X0
202. MacSmitty
203. MagiusNecros
204. MAGMIS
205. MainJPW
206. Malcolm Belmont
207. MaskO'Gears
208. Master Rapier
209. MasterMushroom
210. Mav485
211. Mega Bidoof
212. Mendelsin
213. MetalMario128
214. Metocles
215. Miifighters4Smash5
216. Minato Arisato
217. Mikegamer0608
218. Mishudo
219. Monkokaio
220. MonopolyRubix
221. MorbidAltruism
222. Moydow
223. MrMacBeth
224. MrToxicVoltage
225. Mythzotick
226. mynameisv
227. MysticKnives
228. N3ON
229. Nauzgo
230. Neo Zero
231. NessAtc.
232. Niala
233. Nimbostratus
234. Ninjakid41592
235. Nintendokusou
236. NitrusVirus
237. NonSpecificGuy
238. NoOtherPersona
239. NoR4U
240. Octillus
241. Oddyesy
242. Oniric Spriter
243. Oracle_Summon
244. Organization XIII
245. otarolgam
246. Oz37
247. Pacack
248. Papagenos
249. ParanoidDrone
250. Pcubed007
251. Pennate
252. Phaazoid
253. Pizza Robo
254. P.Kat
255. Plain Yogurt
256. Playcube
257. PlayfulMushroom
258. POKEMANSPIKA
259. Powerman293
260. PSIguy89
261. PrinceGal3n
262. PWN3
263. R.O.B.
264. Radical Beam
265. Radori
266. Raetah
267. Raykz
268. Raziek
269. Red Ryu
270. RegiGygas117
271. Retro gamer
272. RhymeswithEmpty
273. Roger Smith
274. RosaPeach
275. Royaru
276. Royvolution Ream
277. Ryan
278. Ryuutakeshi
279. Sabrewulf238
280. Sagittarius
281. sandfall
282. SanicJan
283. Scatmansworld25
284. Scoliosis Jones
285. Seb9k+
286. Secret Sexytime
287. Seleir
288. Seoxys
289. sheik93
290. Shin F.
291. Shinhed-echi
292. Shog
293. Sidboylol
294. SirCamp
295. skaaaa
296. Skeleton o' Fun
297. SkullKidKing
298. Skyblade12
299. Skyfox2000
300. sman3975
301. Smash_Handle69
302. SmashBro99
303. smashkirby
304. SmashShadow
305. smashtriforce77
306. smileMasky
307. SmilingMad
308. SMX
309. Solfiner
310. someonetookjacob
311. SonicLink125
312. SonicSmasher
313. SorrowOfAcheron
314. SoulofKhaos
315. Spatman
316. Spazzy_D
317. Speedwagon
318. Spootondorf
319. Sqid
320. SSBFan
321. Staarih
322. StaffofSmashing
323. Strider_Bond00J
324. StrikeBlade
325. SuperBrawler
326. Superfiremario
327. SuperNintendoKid
328. Supersmash77
329. Superyoshiom
330. Swampasaur
331. Sykin
332. Takasmash
333. TCT~Phantom
334. TeenGirlSquad
335. TehEpicRyuga
336. ThatShadowLink
337. The Curious Volnutt
338. The One Who Wrote This
339. Thekewlusername
340. T-Hell
341. TheRealHeroOfWinds
342. TheSeanMan
343. TheSpaceKing
344. The Stoopid Unikorn
345. TheTactician
346. thethirdkoopa
347. ThirdDay
348. ThoughtfulWanderer
349. ThunderOverload
350. TimeSmash
351. Tiyomako
352. ToothiestAura
353. True Blue Warrior
354. Turmalinium
355. UltimateWario
356. Ultinarok
357. Vann Accessible
358. Vegito2727
359. Venus of the Desert Bloom
360. Vintage Creep
361. Violenceman
362. walph
363. Warheart_666
364. Wigglytuff ★
365. Wintropy
366. WhiteEaglePL
367. Xelion
368. Xenigma
369. XeVioN
370. Xiivi
371. xLemmy_KoopaX
372. xpnc
373. XTremeGamer1234
374. XxLtxX
375. YellowLord
376. YoshiandToad
377. Young Horsetail
378. Your Hero
379. YwhaletailY
380. Zabadoo
381. zagman505
382. zaiman12345
383. Zandro
384. ZanZero
385. ZarroTsu
386. ZeldaMaster
387. ZestyÑ
388. Zulyar
389. Zuppo

You can add me too dude!

 

[N3ON]

Really I can only see two possibilities for Isaac and Golden Sun at this point. Either we get everything or we get nothing, he'll either be playable or we aren't going to have anything Golden Sun related in the game.

That's funny because I think getting the AT back is the likeliest outcome.

 

[SonicLink125]

Seeing new people here after the direct wanting to support our Golden Boy after their most wanted characters got confirmed really makes me happy. Thank you, guys! It really means a lot to us!

Anyone remember when all the fans of Ridley, K. Rool, Mewtwo, Isaac and Wolf came together to root for them and were called The Big 5? Now Isaac is the last one of that group to be added.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

Updated support list.

Spoiler

1. _Sheik
2. 1/128
3. 9Blades
4. ☆Jisatsu☆
5. *Verrix*
6. Accursed
7. Adeptmune
8. Agk0001
9. AgatioGanon
10. Aguki90
11. airConditioner
12. aldelaro5
13. alguidrag
14. Altais
15. Amberloo
16. AncientArk
17. andimidna
18. Androobie
19. Apollyon
20. Aqua Rock X
21. AquaDork1
22. AquaSol
23. Arcadenik
24. Arsenal234,
25. Arteen
26. Asian_Charizard
27. Astraltar
28. Aureola
29. Aurora Jenny
30. AustarusIV
31. AwesomeCauliflower68
32. Awesomedude444
33. Backgammon
34. Balgorxz
35. BandannaWaddleDee
36. Bane84
37. bassem6
38. Bassoonist
39. Billybae10k
40. Bingoshi
41. Bkupa666
42. Blackwolf666
43. Blaziken
44. BluePikmin11
45. BoltDragon
46. BoN~
47. Bowser-Daimao
48. BravadoMan_13
49. BridgesWithTurtles
50. Browny
51. Buddy002
52. Bunny8093
53. BUnit
54. Burruni
55. Calane
56. CactusBlah
57. candyissweet
58. Capita
59. Cap'nChreest
60. Captain Toad
61. CardStealer1
62. Chapter Serf
63. CheckmateChuck
64. CheeseBroJoe
65. Cheezey Bites
66. Chromfirmed
67. ChronoPenguin
68. ClinkStryphart
69. CliffJumper
70. cocy965
71. Cos.
72. Coaltergeist
73. Crap-Zapper
74. CrossDispatcher
75. cybersai
76. Dalek_Kolt
77. Darkdarkness
78. DatoSm
79. Dendros
80. Desert Croc
81. Destroyer713
82. Dezeray112
83. Dhragen
84. Diddy Kong
85. Dimensionsword64
86. DivinexRose
87. DJ3DS
88. DJBor
89. D-Man9293
90. DogManStar
91. DoodleDuck97
92. Doncalot
93. DraginHikari
94. Drakonis
95. Dromader
96. DukeNapoleon
97. DustyPumpkin
98. e105beta
99. Eagle
100. EclipseSmash
101. EddyBearr
102. ED Cantu
103. Edlocke
104. egaddmario
105. ElPanandero
106. El Syd
107. EndlessChrom
108. EndlessRain
109. EnhaloTricks
110. EricTheGamerman
111. ETFruitNinja
112. ethanrodgers223
113. Ezequileste
114. Falgor
115. Falkoopa
116. False Sense
117. FamiconDisk
118. Felix_the_Slayer
119. fenyx4
120. ferioku
121. Fire Rider
122. Fire_Voyager
123. FirstBlade
124. Flareon
125. Flintike
126. fogbadge.
127. foolssigma
128. FreddyOnDrugs
129. Friesnchip
130. GalacticPetey
131. Geno Boost
132. Ghirahilda
133. GladiusVortex
134. GM_3826
135. Golden Icarus
136. GoodGrief741
137. Gotann
138. GraveEclipse567
139. heylodom
140. Huanchi
141. hwrdjacob
142. iam8bit
143. Icana
144. iDazedX_x
145. Inawordyes
146. IntelliHeath1
147. Invisible Shiny Bulbasaur
148. isaac3000
149. Isaac: Venus Adept
150. IvanQuote
151. JaidynReiman
152. Jak_spoon
153. Jamurai
154. JDogindy
155. JohnnySparkxs
156. Just a random scrub
157. jweb22
158. KCCHIEFS27
159. KeniththeGatherer
160. KeybladeSmasher
161. Kikaru
162. Kind Dedede
163. KingCloud
164. KingShadow
165. KiraYoshikage
166. KirbyDragon
167. Kirbyfan391
168. Kisae
169. KMDP
170. KoalaNut
171. Kokirikory
172. Koori
173. Kremling Man
174. Kumatora
175. Kycse
176. Lady Palutena
177. Lampy
178. LaniusShrike
179. lanky_gunner
180. LasermasterA
181. Leafeon523
182. LeeYawshee
183. legendofrob1
184. LemmyKoopa
185. lightdasher
186. LightheartedBum
187. Lightosia
188. Linq
189. Lisbon Mapping
190. littl-myth
191. Liverpool19
192. Lone (Thirteenth)
193. Lonodel
194. Lord-Zero
195. Lucanic
196. Lucimar
197. Ludjinnado
198. lunarum
199. Lukingordex
200. Lurxy
201. M23-X0
202. MacSmitty
203. MagiusNecros
204. MAGMIS
205. MainJPW
206. Malcolm Belmont
207. MaskO'Gears
208. Master Rapier
209. MasterMushroom
210. Mav485
211. Mega Bidoof
212. Mendelsin
213. MetalMario128
214. Metocles
215. Miifighters4Smash5
216. Minato Arisato
217. Mikegamer0608
218. Mishudo
219. Monkokaio
220. MonopolyRubix
221. MorbidAltruism
222. Moydow
223. MrMacBeth
224. MrToxicVoltage
225. Mythzotick
226. mynameisv
227. MysticKnives
228. N3ON
229. Nauzgo
230. Neo Zero
231. NessAtc.
232. Niala
233. Nimbostratus
234. Ninjakid41592
235. Nintendokusou
236. NitrusVirus
237. NonSpecificGuy
238. NoOtherPersona
239. NoR4U
240. Octillus
241. Oddyesy
242. Oniric Spriter
243. OptimisticStrifer
244. Oracle_Summon
245. Organization XIII
246. otarolgam
247. Oz37
248. Pacack
249. Papagenos
250. ParanoidDrone
251. Pcubed007
252. Pennate
253. Phaazoid
254. Pizza Robo
255. P.Kat
256. Plain Yogurt
257. Playcube
258. PlayfulMushroom
259. POKEMANSPIKA
260. Powerman293
261. PSIguy89
262. PrinceGal3n
263. PWN3
264. R.O.B.
265. Radical Beam
266. Radori
267. Raetah
268. Raykz
269. Raziek
270. Red Ryu
271. RegiGygas117
272. Retro gamer
273. RhymeswithEmpty
274. Roger Smith
275. RosaPeach
276. Royaru
277. Royvolution Ream
278. Ryan
279. Ryuutakeshi
280. Sabrewulf238
281. Sagittarius
282. sandfall
283. SanicJan
284. Scatmansworld25
285. Scoliosis Jones
286. Seb9k+
287. Secret Sexytime
288. Seleir
289. Seoxys
290. sheik93
291. Shin F.
292. Shinhed-echi
293. Shog
294. Sidboylol
295. SirCamp
296. skaaaa
297. Skeleton o' Fun
298. SkullKidKing
299. Skyblade12
300. Skyfox2000
301. sman3975
302. Smash_Handle69
303. SmashBro99
304. smashkirby
305. SmashShadow
306. smashtriforce77
307. smileMasky
308. SmilingMad
309. SMX
310. Solfiner
311. someonetookjacob
312. SonicLink125
313. SonicSmasher
314. SorrowOfAcheron
315. SoulofKhaos
316. Spatman
317. Spazzy_D
318. Speedwagon
319. Spootondorf
320. Sqid
321. SSBFan
322. Staarih
323. StaffofSmashing
324. Strider_Bond00J
325. StrikeBlade
326. SuperBrawler
327. Superfiremario
328. SuperNintendoKid
329. Supersmash77
330. Superyoshiom
331. Swampasaur
332. Sykin
333. Takasmash
334. TCT~Phantom
335. TeenGirlSquad
336. TehEpicRyuga
337. ThatShadowLink
338. The Curious Volnutt
339. The One Who Wrote This
340. Thekewlusername
341. T-Hell
342. TheRealHeroOfWinds
343. TheSeanMan
344. TheSpaceKing
345. The Stoopid Unikorn
346. TheTactician
347. thethirdkoopa
348. ThirdDay
349. ThoughtfulWanderer
350. ThunderOverload
351. TimeSmash
352. Tiyomako
353. ToothiestAura
354. True Blue Warrior
355. Turmalinium
356. UltimateWario
357. Ultinarok
358. Vann Accessible
359. Vegito2727
360. Venus of the Desert Bloom
361. Vintage Creep
362. Violenceman
363. walph
364. Warheart_666
365. Wigglytuff ★
366. Wintropy
367. WhiteEaglePL
368. Xelion
369. Xenigma
370. XeVioN
371. Xiivi
372. xLemmy_KoopaX
373. xpnc
374. XTremeGamer1234
375. XxLtxX
376. YellowLord
377. YoshiandToad
378. Young Horsetail
379. Your Hero
380. YwhaletailY
381. Zabadoo
382. zagman505
383. zaiman12345
384. Zandro
385. ZanZero
386. ZarroTsu
387. ZeldaMaster
388. ZestyÑ
389. Zulyar
390. Zuppo

 

[N3ON]

Heh, enough people pestered loz18 on gamefaqs about Isaac that he replied to them. Unfortunately he doesn't know anything.

 

[DogManStar]

That's funny because I think getting the AT back is the likeliest outcome.

Agreed. This game seems to be priding itself on bringing everything back. I don't think Isaac is safe from being an AT just because he wasn't in Smash 4, Gray Fox came back already.

 

[Zuppo]

So many people are now supporting Isaac, i’m so happy to see this

 

[Amtoj]

I'd like to be added as a supporter too!