Sunrise, Sunset - Isaac for Smash Ultimate #GoldenSunday

[XenoWarriorX]

Pokemon might be a crowd pleaser.

But honestly, a franchise that has over 9 characters shouldn't really go over that amount.

And I don't give a **** if it's the most popular franchise in the world. Having 9 unique characters should be enough to represent that franchise enough.

 

[LuminoZero]

Isaac won the poll! Bandana Dee is kicked to the losers bracket.

Next, we go up against Banjo-Kazooie. Whichever way that goes, it's going to be a brutal matchup.

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

That's the main crux of my argument against the stupid third dimension square object theory.

Cause clearly a Ryu echo and a ninth pokemon are maximum hype, would totally make me feel more excited to get the game as early as I possibly can. Yep.

10th actually. You forgot Mewtwo.

 

[XenoWarriorX]

Isaac won the poll! Bandana Dee is kicked to the losers bracket.

Next, we go up against Banjo-Kazooie. Whichever way that goes, it's going to be a brutal matchup.

R.I.P. Isaac.

 

[Dionaea_floridensis]

So did Isaac lose the poll?

 

[XenoWarriorX]

So did Isaac lose the poll?

No. He won.

10th actually. You forgot Mewtwo.

I actually counted MewTwo.

1. Pikachu
2. Jigglypuff.
3.pichu
4.mewtwo
5.squirle
6. Ivysaur
7. Charzard
8. Lucario
9. Greninja

 

[Q-Long]

I feel like if Lloyd fans would vote for Isaac if they're out. They're both iconic early gen 6 jrpgs with the same composer

 

[Kalaam]

So did Isaac lose the poll?

Won the semi-finals, but against Banjo/Kazoui in the finals it's gonna be tough.

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

No. He won.


I actually counted MewTwo.

1. Pikachu
2. Jigglypuff.
3.pichu
4.mewtwo
5.squirle
6. Ivysaur
7. Charzard
8. Lucario
9. Greninja

I quoted the wrong post. It was meant for Pholtos. Check above.

 

[XenoWarriorX]

I quoted the wrong post. It was meant for Pholtos. Check above.

Oh whoops. I just saw that you quoted me, and didn't even bother to refresh! Sorry! ^^;

 

[Sabrewulf238]

Because they are afraid of K.Rool fans and want to silence his them as soon as possible?

I think if they're not afraid of Waluigi fans they're not afraid of any fans.

 

[Shin F.]

Hey guys, found this via reddit. Fun little game. Can you name all the characters currently in smash ult?
They're alphabetical until you hit the ones revealed on August 8 and later. Those are at the end.
Had a heck of a time getting the last like 7, took a lot of brain wracking when I was down to one.
Took me a bit over 18 minutes, cause man that last one took me like 5+ minutes to figure out.
Periods are a thing, so if a character probably has a period in it, try it with a period in the right spot, also spaces.

Got it in 5:47, got hung up on Mewtwo for like 30-40 seconds at the very end lol

 

[Lonodel]

Got it in 5:47, got hung up on Mewtwo for like 30-40 seconds at the very end lol

Totally forgot the miis and Wii fit trainer

 

[Chiroz]

Hey guys, found this via reddit. Fun little game. Can you name all the characters currently in smash ult?
They're alphabetical until you hit the ones revealed on August 8 and later. Those are at the end.
Had a heck of a time getting the last like 7, took a lot of brain wracking when I was down to one.
Took me a bit over 18 minutes, cause man that last one took me like 5+ minutes to figure out.
Periods are a thing, so if a character probably has a period in it, try it with a period in the right spot, also spaces.

This was fun! 5:27 for me. Got hung up like 2 full minutes with the Mii's (completely forgot they existed), Snake (I forgot about him too apparently) and the whole Zelda franchise for some reason (even thought it's my favorite franchise, lol). I was done in like 3:30 or something like that not counting all of those.

Edit: Also I had to look up Mii Swordfighter's name. I was writting Mii Swordsman, Mii Sword and like 2 other ways that weren't the correct one.

 

[blueneuronDOTnet]

Hey guys, found this via reddit. Fun little game. Can you name all the characters currently in smash ult?
They're alphabetical until you hit the ones revealed on August 8 and later. Those are at the end.
Had a heck of a time getting the last like 7, took a lot of brain wracking when I was down to one.
Took me a bit over 18 minutes, cause man that last one took me like 5+ minutes to figure out.
Periods are a thing, so if a character probably has a period in it, try it with a period in the right spot, also spaces.

05:13 for me. The fact that you have to write their names a certain way (e.g. Dr. Mario rather than Doctor Mario) really slowed me down, and I forgot about Lucario.

In other news, Isaac beat Bandana Waddle Dee in the tournament poll, so congratulations! Rooting for Lloyd against Incineroar right now, maybe show your support?

 

[Rethuic]

05:13 for me. The fact that you have to write their names a certain way (e.g. Dr. Mario rather than Doctor Mario) really slowed me down, and I forgot about Lucario.

In other news, Isaac beat Bandana Waddle Dee in the tournament poll, so congratulations! Rooting for Lloyd against Incineroar right now, maybe show your support?

Lloyd over Incineroar any day. I still prefer Golden Sun, but Tales of Symphonia was also a big part of my childhood.

 

[blueneuronDOTnet]

Lloyd over Incineroar any day. I still prefer Golden Sun, but Tales of Symphonia was also a big part of my childhood.

 

[Confirmation]

Good hustle, team. We beat Bandana lad.

I saw a few comments saying how people though Isaac was the cheater on Reddit; Isaac's large win should quiet those guys down, lol

 

[blueneuronDOTnet]

Good hustle, team. We beat Bandana lad.

I saw a few comments saying how people though Isaac was the cheater on Reddit; Isaac's large win should quiet those guys down, lol

The guy running the poll actually said that Banjo was the cheater. He had over 2000 votes within 5 hours on the first poll, and only ~1700 after 24 hours on the recount, so that'd make sense.

 

[LegendOfDragoon]

Good hustle, team. We beat Bandana lad.

I saw a few comments saying how people though Isaac was the cheater on Reddit; Isaac's large win should quiet those guys down, lol

Isaac was the one getting not votes that we know about. Seeing the new results, I'm starting to think they might have been retaliatory.

 

[Dionaea_floridensis]

So has the guy running the poll confirmed the results of this one are legit and not bottled?

 

[Q-Long]

What what costume is that? (Only has played ToS1)

 

[Rethuic]

Good hustle, team. We beat Bandana lad.

I saw a few comments saying how people though Isaac was the cheater on Reddit; Isaac's large win should quiet those guys down, lol

Not to be mean, but it almost seems like they were the ones who used a bot. Last time was really close, but we were constantly a good 10% ahead.

 

[blueneuronDOTnet]

What what costume is that? (Only has played ToS1)

It's from Tales of Asteria.

 

[jweb23]

OMG. Please put that in the trailer thread!

I forgot there was a trailer thread. I just posted it there!

 

[Nazyrus]

Not to be mean, but it almost seems like they were the ones who used a bot. Last time was really close, but we were constantly a good 10% ahead.

I agree, if botting was avoided this time, and they couldn't catch up, it proves very well they were the ones doing it and didn't have enough voters. It's a shame but whatya gonna do lol.

 

[Fire Tactician]

I got 5:09 on that quiz, but I got up to 4:20 pretty handily before butchering the last few.

• I found it easiest to go by roster count, so I made sure I got the OG 12, then the Melee 25, accidentally skipped to Smash 4, then hit up Brawl before throwing the newcomers in.
• I blanked hard on Daisy- for some reason I thought that Inkling and Ridley were the only ones revealed at E3.
• Totally forgot Dedede because he associates heavily with old characters in Subspace (I tried to play cutscenes in my head when jotting them down).
• Smash 4 was incredibly easy because I so vividly remember where I was when all of them were revealed.
• Did you see my original mistake?
• I forgot that Melee had 26 characters and completely forgot about Ice Climbers until the very end.

 

[jweb23]

Pokemon might be a crowd pleaser.

But honestly, a franchise that has over 9 characters shouldn't really go over that amount.

And I don't give a **** if it's the most popular franchise in the world. Having 9 unique characters should be enough to represent that franchise enough.

I've been a massive Pokemon fan since the games first dropped in the United States but I agree with you 100%

Yes Pokemon is insanely popular but 9 is definitely more than enough characters, not to forget all the poke ball Pokemon in the game as well, that's the main reason I'm not excited about Incineroar. I'm honestly kinda hoping Vergeben is wrong about that one lol.

Can you imagine Smash 20 years from now if this trend continues? They'll probably have to change the name to "Pokemon and Friends"

 

[ZelDan]

I've been a massive Pokemon fan since the games first dropped in the United States but I agree with you 100%

Yes Pokemon is insanely popular but 9 is definitely more than enough characters, not to forget all the poke ball Pokemon in the game as well, that's the main reason I'm not excited about Incineroar. I'm honestly kinda hoping Vergeben is wrong about that one lol.

Can you imagine Smash 20 years from now if this tread continues? They'll probably have to change the name to "Pokemon and Friends"

"Pokemon vs Fire Emblem vs Mario vs some other characters"

 

[RSF-Blue bomber]

I bring greetings from the Geno thread. I'm hoping they both join this Goddamn game because these leaks are killing me

 

[LuminoZero]

I still like the idea of the next Smash Direct being cosmic based.

Sun (Isaac), Moon (Skull Kid) and Stars (Geno).

 

[Kalaam]

I bring greetings from the Geno thread. I'm hoping they both join this Goddamn game because these leaks are killing me

I never played Mario RPG but Geno's design seems very interresting, I hope he gets in too if Isaac joins. (Isaac will help him grow bigger ! And grow a vine beard)

Also, this got posted today, I'm not sure anyone shared it here yet:

 

[Golden Icarus]

just took the quiz. Took me like 3 minutes just to think of Wario. WARIO. Of all things. He just completely escaped my mind.

 

[Jupiter Ivan]

I bring greetings from the Geno thread. I'm hoping they both join this Goddamn game because these leaks are killing me

Lol same. I may not know much about Geno, but I’m still rooting for him. I feel like Isaac and Geno both deserve a spot on the roster. More so than most other characters.

 

[SonicLink125]

I bring greetings from the Geno thread. I'm hoping they both join this Goddamn game because these leaks are killing me

You and I (and everyone else here) both. These two NEED to get in now! Heck, we could have a RPG centered Smash Direct that would show off Isaac (and Felix), Geno, Lloyd, and Gen 7 Pokemon. That would be awesome!

 

[ZelDan]

You and I (and everyone else here) both. These two NEED to get in now! Heck, we could have a RPG centered Smash Direct that would show off Isaac (and Felix), Geno, Lloyd, and Gen 7 Pokemon. That would be awesome!

Huh, I realized all of my top 3 are RPG characters just now

Isaac, Geno, and Elma

 

[Fire Tactician]

I've been a massive Pokemon fan since the games first dropped in the United States but I agree with you 100%

Yes Pokemon is insanely popular but 9 is definitely more than enough characters, not to forget all the poke ball Pokemon in the game as well, that's the main reason I'm not excited about Incineroar. I'm honestly kinda hoping Vergeben is wrong about that one lol.

Can you imagine Smash 20 years from now if this tread continues? They'll probably have to change the name to "Pokemon and Friends"

I think one new one per Smash isn't too much to ask for, but they did set an odd precedent in Smashes 1-3 by adding two for each (with Brawl "technically" adding 4). It wasn't really a problem in earlier games, as Squirtle, Ivysaur, Pichu, and Mewtwo (originally) were cut, but when putting them together in Ultimate, it looks a little silly. Ultimate should be allowed to add one more rep, but with Mewtwo, Pichu, and Pokemon Trainer's two other Pokemon coming back, it looks like it's added 4 characters already.

That said, I've never seen Pokemon Trainer as three individual characters. Each Pokemon has a fatal flaw screws it over in a few matchups and all three Pokemon should be used to make up for these flaws. Charizard has poor neutral since he's big and slower, Squirtle lacks KO power and is easy to launch, and Ivysaur is easier to launch and doesn't quite excel unless the matchup favors him. Sure, Charizard has the clout to warrant Smash inclusion, but Squirtle and Ivysaur don't really have a place in Smash unless conceived as part of a greater Pokemon Trainer moveset. Just an old Pokemon Trainer main weighing in...

TLDR: Pokemon looks like it has more reps than it should, even though it's been better balanced in the past.

Actually, I'd justify more Pokemon reps for the same reason that I'd justify more Fire Emblem ones- they're character based series with rotating protagonists. They don't keep the core cast the spotlight for every game like Mario and Kirby do- they need more characters to better represent the breadth of their series.

 

[NessAtc.]

Actually, I'd justify more Pokemon reps for the same reason that I'd justify more Fire Emblem ones- they're character based series with rotating protagonists. They don't keep the core cast the spotlight for every game like Mario and Kirby do- they need more characters to better represent the breadth of their series.

I'd agree, but I don't think anyone can justify any more Fire Emblem characters after Chrom, so that's not exactly the best point to be made.

And I'd argue Incineroar is among the worst mons you could pick if you want to represent the breadth of the series, since it's not a type that's not already in smash.

 

[Kalaam]

Actually, I'd justify more Pokemon reps for the same reason that I'd justify more Fire Emblem ones- they're character based series with rotating protagonists. They don't keep the core cast the spotlight for every game like Mario and Kirby do- they need more characters to better represent the breadth of their series.

Still waiting for best Lord Hector.

 

[TappyBat]

Isaac won the poll! Bandana Dee is kicked to the losers bracket.

Next, we go up against Banjo-Kazooie. Whichever way that goes, it's going to be a brutal matchup.

we're gonna get our asses kicked. but at least it's to banjo and not some mook.