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Sunrise, Sunset - Isaac for Smash Ultimate #GoldenSunday

Shawnullah

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So we gone from Brawl T, for Ultimate E10+... yeah now I know why they nerfed Snaked and Samus... "things"
Samus irks me because she comes across as a pure bimbo now when her Samus Returns artwork screams athlete. As for Snake, the complete absence of his glutes makes him anatomically incorrect and it will never not disturb me.
 

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What are your guys' favorite moments from Golden Sun? I'm replaying the game and at the end of Mercury Lighthouse, the group causes a waterfall to flow upwards and Mia walks on it gracefully. Isaac gets confused and takes a step but falls and the waterfall sweeps him up with his arms flailing around wildly. I love how even Garet looks embarassed for Isaac :laugh:
 

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Apparently that's not actually loz but who knows. Also I just wish vergeben would say something about Isaac's inclusion in smash, like even though I don't really trust these leakers he's probably the most credible and it would be nice to hear something about Isaac from him
I don't think Verge knows every character himself, despite name dropping Ridley and Simon. He said nothing of K. Rool even when he was revealed at the same direct as Simon. Another thing is aside from some echoes, he hasn't name dropped a unique newcomer since. Now it's 'Gen 7 rep' or 'Square Enix rep' maybe Isaac would be 'new franchise rep' lol. Either way, I'm hoping we get a reveal similar to K. Rool where no one was expecting it so we can be truly hyped.

Also in a worst case scenario where Verge just straight up says, 'Yeah Isaac's not in, sorry.' That would suck to hear so I rather not really know lol.
 

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What are your guys' favorite moments from Golden Sun? I'm replaying the game and at the end of Mercury Lighthouse, the group causes a waterfall to flow upwards and Mia walks on it gracefully. Isaac gets confused and takes a step but falls and the waterfall sweeps him up with his arms flailing around wildly. I love how even Garet looks embarassed for Isaac :laugh:
Saturos and Menardi jumping off like rabbits after defeating Isaac and Garet in the prologue is also pretty amusing. The best part is that this cutscene is inevitable even if you defeat them.
 

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What are your guys' favorite moments from Golden Sun? I'm replaying the game and at the end of Mercury Lighthouse, the group causes a waterfall to flow upwards and Mia walks on it gracefully. Isaac gets confused and takes a step but falls and the waterfall sweeps him up with his arms flailing around wildly. I love how even Garet looks embarassed for Isaac :laugh:
My favorite moment was the trailer for Golden Sun. The one that had absolutely nothing to do with the game. Like. How can you screw it up that bad? Got a neat cameo in Dark Dawn though, so there’s that.
 

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Samus irks me because she comes across as a pure bimbo now when her Samus Returns artwork screams athlete. As for Snake, the complete absence of his glutes makes him anatomically incorrect and it will never not disturb me.
Well they're not using the Samus returns version. They're still using the Other M version as a baseline.
 

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My favorite moment was the trailer for Golden Sun. The one that had absolutely nothing to do with the game. Like. How can you screw it up that bad? Got a neat cameo in Dark Dawn though, so there’s that.
Fire Emblem 7's trailer is weirder.

Voice-over guy: Trust nobody, in a strategy role-playing game heavily revolving around trusting and building relations with strangers. Hmm, that doesn't sound right.
 
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Well they're not using the Samus returns version. They're still using the Other M version as a baseline.
Metroid Prime 4 can't come out soon enough. I need some amazing looking power suit porn to look at. Nothing will ever top Prime 2's Light Suit, however. On a related note, I'm utterly anxious to see how Sakurai will design Isaac.
 

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If Felix also gets in as an Echo fighter. Do you think they'll edit out the Felix Battle theme from the Brawl remix, and create an entirely new remix for Felix?

*Using this as a reference.*

https://youtu.be/GBAM_Z-gYa0
Definitely not. I'd sooner see them remixing Felix Battle Theme again and keeping the original as well. We're probably getting all music tracks from prior Smash games back.
 

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I don't think Verge knows every character himself, despite name dropping Ridley and Simon. He said nothing of K. Rool even when he was revealed at the same direct as Simon. Another thing is aside from some echoes, he hasn't name dropped a unique newcomer since. Now it's 'Gen 7 rep' or 'Square Enix rep' maybe Isaac would be 'new franchise rep' lol. Either way, I'm hoping we get a reveal similar to K. Rool where no one was expecting it so we can be truly hyped.

Also in a worst case scenario where Verge just straight up says, 'Yeah Isaac's not in, sorry.' That would suck to hear so I rather not really know lol.
Yeah. Verge seems much more vague now. Probably because the info he's getting mostly has something to do with him knowing the involvements of each company involved.
Metroid Prime 4 can't come out soon enough. I need some amazing looking power suit porn to look at. Nothing will ever top Prime 2's Light Suit, however. On a related note, I'm utterly anxious to see how Sakurai will design Isaac.
MP4 is still in the pipeline. Don't worry.
Definitely not. I'd sooner see them remixing Felix Battle Theme again and keeping the original as well. We're probably getting all music tracks from prior Smash games back.
GDI. Doom Dragon music on its own would make it 100 times better, but I can't complain about more content with GS.
 

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Do you know how well sold Golden Sun and Golden Sun The Last Age on the Wii U's virtual console?



I was thinking about the release date was in 2014/2015 I believe, and the smash ultimate project was completed at end of 2015. Can we use that lika a precedent :crazy:?
 

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I don't think Verge knows every character himself, despite name dropping Ridley and Simon. He said nothing of K. Rool even when he was revealed at the same direct as Simon. Another thing is aside from some echoes, he hasn't name dropped a unique newcomer since. Now it's 'Gen 7 rep' or 'Square Enix rep' maybe Isaac would be 'new franchise rep' lol. Either way, I'm hoping we get a reveal similar to K. Rool where no one was expecting it so we can be truly hyped.

Also in a worst case scenario where Verge just straight up says, 'Yeah Isaac's not in, sorry.' That would suck to hear so I rather not really know lol.

II think Verg knows things in the VA department. He knew about the fighters in Sc via voice lines and he said the same thing about Richter.
 

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Hypothetically speaking if all Golden Sun gets in Ultimate is one new song, what song would you want? I want Saturos' Battle Theme. (Because it is perfect for a fight and comes from the original Golden Sun)
 

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Hypothetically speaking if all Golden Sun gets in Ultimate is one new song, what song would you want? I want Saturos' Battle Theme. (Because it is perfect for a fight and comes from the original Golden Sun)
Isaac's battle theme, and the Venus lighthouse.
 

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I'm really excited for trophies 3D renders of the 8 party members maybe some of kraden saturos menardi would be cool, I also think we're getting a bit ahead of ourselves though XD
 

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ALL MUSIC FROM BOTH GAMES
EVERY SONG IS HERE!

Lol if you thought the Castlevania song list was big, just take a look at what we have for Golden Sun. Every single song from Golden Sun, Golden Sun The Lost Age and even the less good one, Golden Sun Dork Dawn is here for your listening pleasure!

But wait, there’s more! Along with Isaac and Felix being playable we have every other character making an appearance as an Assist Trophy! Watch out for Akafubu, he Summons the Great Gabomba to tear up the field!

I'm really excited for trophies 3D renders of the 8 party members maybe some of kraden saturos menardi would be cool, I also think we're getting a bit ahead of ourselves though XD
I mean none of us expect these things. All we really want is Isaac to be playable. Maybe also have Felix as Echo... which thinking about it would be even more awesome since his signature Djinni is named Echo. Hah...

But we can only repeat the same thing so many times, so it’s ok to go off the beaten path and think of other Golden sun related things they could put in Ultimate, as unlikely as they are.
 

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EVERY SONG IS HERE!

Lol if you thought the Castlevania song list was big, just take a look at what we have for Golden Sun. Every single song from Golden Sun, Golden Sun The Lost Age and even the less good one, Golden Sun Dork Dawn is here for your listening pleasure!

But wait, there’s more! Along with Isaac and Felix being playable we have every other character making an appearance as an Assist Trophy! Watch out for Akafubu, he Summons the Great Gabomba to tear up the field!
Kraden is the new Mr. Resetti
 

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Somewhat related to Isaac since he was in that "leak". This guy debunks the Shadow leak in the best way possible.

https://mobile.twitter.com/LandyRS/status/1035250773586784262

The last part killed me.
o man the last part of that was too much


I mean none of us expect these things. All we really want is Isaac to be playable. Maybe also have Felix as Echo... which thinking about it would be even more awesome since his signature Djinni is named Echo. Hah...

But we can only repeat the same thing so many times, so it’s ok to go off the beaten path and think of other Golden sun related things they could put in Ultimate, as unlikely as they are.
on this note I guess sheba's theme is called Alone which just gives me chills it's so sad. How many people in here ship Felix x Sheba? #OTP XD
 

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What are your guys' favorite moments from Golden Sun? I'm replaying the game and at the end of Mercury Lighthouse, the group causes a waterfall to flow upwards and Mia walks on it gracefully. Isaac gets confused and takes a step but falls and the waterfall sweeps him up with his arms flailing around wildly. I love how even Garet looks embarassed for Isaac :laugh:
I really loved the Jupiter Lighthouse part with the fight Felix and Piers VS Karstine (sorry I have the French name hitting my head so hard I can't write Karst without the "ine" part xDD) and Agatio and then Sheba and Jenna joined the fight and with the awesome soundtrack <3
 

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Was looking at images on the SSBU website and saw this image. (No I do not think it is a direct tease for Isaac).

Shulk's Monado lets out a howl! SMASH
 

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Speaking of that leak, have we ever figured out where the source of Isaac's render came from? Seems kind of silly to think there's this one fan art of Isaac none of us has ever seen. And every one is always going to look like a Photoshop of someone else lol. Either way I'd love for the leaker to put up the full render, if there is one I suppose.
 

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I played all three Golden Sun games, but it's been so long that I barely even remember them. But I've been around these parts long enough to remember I wanted him in Brawl. I still support him and I think now more than ever he's likely.
 

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Speaking of that leak, have we ever figured out where the source of Isaac's render came from? Seems kind of silly to think there's this one fan art of Isaac none of us has ever seen. And every one is always going to look like a Photoshop of someone else lol. Either way I'd love for the leaker to put up the full render, if there is one I suppose.
It definitely could have been made by the leaker himself. Artsy Omni did the same with Rayman, so it's not out of the possibility.

o man the last part of that was too much



on this note I guess sheba's theme is called Alone which just gives me chills it's so sad. How many people in here ship Felix x Sheba? #OTP XD
Yes! Always shipped Felix & Sheba together. And I probably still do today. I wish we knew what happened to them in Dark Dawn.
 

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It definitely could have been made by the leaker himself. Artsy Omni did the same with Rayman, so it's not out of the possibility.


Yes! Always shipped Felix & Sheba together. And I probably still do today. I wish we knew what happened to them in Dark Dawn.
They had a child, Felix ranaway, Sheba folowed him (headcannon)
 

SuperNintendoKid

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Samus irks me because she comes across as a pure bimbo now when her Samus Returns artwork screams athlete. As for Snake, the complete absence of his glutes makes him anatomically incorrect and it will never not disturb me.
it's weird because ZSS's breasts have changed three times in smash now
Brawl they were 100% skintight with cleavage
Smash 4 they were bigger but her suit doesn't show cleavage (which actually makes sense in terms of physics with skin tight suits)
Ultimate they flattened them but they still have the same volume, which looks really weird

Samus just can't catch a break LOL
 

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Samus irks me because she comes across as a pure bimbo now when her Samus Returns artwork screams athlete. As for Snake, the complete absence of his glutes makes him anatomically incorrect and it will never not disturb me.
I'm still mad they nerfed snake's ..hum... weapon ? If at least it looked natural.
 

Dionaea_floridensis

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On the topic of Samus' Smash Ultimate design, I actually like it more. Her breasts look like the same size but they're shaped like human breasts and not rigid coconuts lol.
Continuing with character portraits, the shape of isaac's eyes is off and his hair isn't the same spikey anime style either. Of all the fake renders Isaac's was definitely the best though
 

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Samus irks me because she comes across as a pure bimbo now when her Samus Returns artwork screams athlete. As for Snake, the complete absence of his glutes makes him anatomically incorrect and it will never not disturb me.
This so much. The Brawl version now looks like her mature older sister who's actually a bounty hunter, whereas the Smash 4 and Ultimate version looks like some random bimbo. Not that bimbos can't fight or don't deserve to be top tier or anything.... I mean look at Peach. But it's just such a departure from the old look that it's weird.
 

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I've got another comment for the render leak, shouldn't the chorus kids have been in 3D? they were 2 dimensional and so far the only other character have that's 2D is game and watch, the only newcomer I could see on the horizon being 2D is Paper Mario
 

XenoWarriorX

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I've got another comment for the render leak, shouldn't the chorus kids have been in 3D? they were 2 dimensional and so far the only other character have that's 2D is game and watch, the only newcomer I could see on the horizon being 2D is Paper Mario
So far a lot of the rythem heaven characters and enemies in smash have held a 2d appearance.
 
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