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Sunrise, Sunset - Isaac for Smash Ultimate #GoldenSunday

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would you be ok if they reveal Isaac with another character? I think the theme "Sun, moon and stars" is awesome, and can give us 3 characters in 1 trailer (Isaac, Skull Kid and Geno)
I'd rather Isaac got his own trailer. Every other newcomer has always gotten their own trailer (aside from when an echo character from their series is revealed alongside them) and I think Isaac, Golden Sun and it's fans deserve to have a trailer for themselves.

The only character I wouldn't mind revealed alongside Isaac is Felix. (or another Golden Sun character in general)
 

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I'd imagine if Isaac could "set" Djinns, it'd be fun if his final smash changed up.
 

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Oh no, I mean fates. I don't count Echoes are the last once since it's a remake. However, I loved Echoes. Such a great game
fates is just waaay too long. I feel like I went off about that in the discord, but Fates really should have just been one grand-slam one and done game w/ routes converging at parts possibly.
 

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Congrats everyone on 200 pages!

I was just thinking if Isaac gets in we'll finally be able to hear this track on an actual Golden Sun stage:

 

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fates is just waaay too long. I feel like I went off about that in the discord, but Fates really should have just been one grand-slam one and done game w/ routes converging at parts possibly.
Fates was fanservice the game. The characters are terribly written. However, it’s hard to legit have a conversation talking about the flaws of fates with any die hard fan.

Like Peri, holy hell.

And Camelia, let me tell you, having some crazy stalker who’s obsessed with you is not “OMG **** SEXY YUM YUM”
It’s a pain in the ass, it’s something that legit ruins days.
FE got greedy, tried to strike gold With 2 games
However it took a mobile game to do it.
 

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Fates was fanservice the game. The characters are terribly written. However, it’s hard to legit have a conversation talking about the flaws of fates with any die hard fan.

Like Peri, holy hell.

And Camelia, let me tell you, having some crazy stalker who’s obsessed with you is not “OMG **** SEXY YUM YUM”
It’s a pain in the ***, it’s something that legit ruins days.
FE got greedy, tried to strike gold With 2 games
However it took a mobile game to do it.
I agree its fanservice the game but the replayability and gameplay was the best in the series, for me at least. Of course, everyone likes and dislikes different things...
 

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I'd rather Isaac got his own trailer. Every other newcomer has always gotten their own trailer (aside from when an echo character from their series is revealed alongside them) and I think Isaac, Golden Sun and it's fans deserve to have a trailer for themselves.

The only character I wouldn't mind revealed alongside Isaac is Felix. (or another Golden Sun character in general)
Agreed. I really like the idea of sun, moon and stars because if Isaac is in, I'll be beyooond happy. But I agree that Golden Sun deserves a solo trailer.
 

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Fates was fanservice the game. The characters are terribly written. However, it’s hard to legit have a conversation talking about the flaws of fates with any die hard fan.

Like Peri, holy hell.

And Camelia, let me tell you, having some crazy stalker who’s obsessed with you is not “OMG **** SEXY YUM YUM”
It’s a pain in the ***, it’s something that legit ruins days.
FE got greedy, tried to strike gold With 2 games
However it took a mobile game to do it.
Camillia melons bumping into you through all the game, huh no thanks .... and don't forget the really disturbing to say the least bro on sis love.
 

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I loved the designs of most of the characters in Fates, and I liked the personalities of a good number of them too. Some of the characters were just annoying to me though. Peri makes no sense as a character honestly. Also, as I've said before, the child mechanic felt more forced in this game in comparison to Awakening.
 

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Here's something I don't see anyone talk about for a GS reveal.

What if it started off with "Felix: Stands his Ground"(if he is in of course) like how Lucina and Robin's reveal trailer went. Would you be hyped to see our golden boy show up to help Felix and be like BAM! "Isaac: Lends a Hand!"

I think that would be sweet!
 

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I don't know if this has been said already, but Sakurai makes a note of which characters are highly requested in specific regions. Sakurai said that Ridley and Dark Samus were requested in the West (America). Before smash 4 was released he said Little Mac was a requested character in the West. He also said that Chrom was highly requested in Japan. When Bayonetta was revealed he said that she was the #1 pick in Europe. With all of this in mind Isaac could be a highly requested character in Europe. Do we know of any other characters that are very popular in Europe that would contest Isaac?
 

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I don't know if this has been said already, but Sakurai makes a note of which characters are highly requested in specific regions. Sakurai said that Ridley and Dark Samus were requested in the West (America). Before smash 4 was released he said Little Mac was a requested character in the West. He also said that Chrom was highly requested in Japan. When Bayonetta was revealed he said that she was the #1 pick in Europe. With all of this in mind Isaac could be a highly requested character in Europe. Do we know of any other characters that are very popular in Europe that would contest Isaac?
King K Rool.

But he was popular EVERYWHERE.
 

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I don't know if this has been said already, but Sakurai makes a note of which characters are highly requested in specific regions. Sakurai said that Ridley and Dark Samus were requested in the West (America). Before smash 4 was released he said Little Mac was a requested character in the West. He also said that Chrom was highly requested in Japan. When Bayonetta was revealed he said that she was the #1 pick in Europe. With all of this in mind Isaac could be a highly requested character in Europe. Do we know of any other characters that are very popular in Europe that would contest Isaac?
I don't think there's anyone that matches Isaac's popularity in Europe, unless there's some silent majority we have never ever heard about
 

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Fates was fanservice the game. The characters are terribly written. However, it’s hard to legit have a conversation talking about the flaws of fates with any die hard fan.

Like Peri, holy hell.

And Camelia, let me tell you, having some crazy stalker who’s obsessed with you is not “OMG **** SEXY YUM YUM”
It’s a pain in the ***, it’s something that legit ruins days.
FE got greedy, tried to strike gold With 2 games
However it took a mobile game to do it.
Yeah... I mean I've had some decent conversations about it but I think it was just so all over the place. Three Houses is surely looking better.

Here's something I don't see anyone talk about for a GS reveal.

What if it started off with "Felix: Stands his Ground"(if he is in of course) like how Lucina and Robin's reveal trailer went. Would you be hyped to see our golden boy show up to help Felix and be like BAM! "Isaac: Lends a Hand!"

I think that would be sweet!
I wouldn't stop

But I think they're gonna do Isaac first then Felix if that happens just b/c Felix is echoing Isaac.
 

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I don't think there's anyone that matches Isaac's popularity in Europe, unless there's some silent majority we have never ever heard about
King K Rool was one, since Rare was a British studio, but since he has now become a character, Isaac is now #1 in europe.
 

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I don't think there's anyone that matches Isaac's popularity in Europe, unless there's some silent majority we have never ever heard about
Well in the UK at least there's Banjo & Kazooie, Rayman and King K. Rool. As for the continent, I'm not too sure.
 

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idk if Isaac is the most popular character anywhere for sure, but he definitely has a great amount of popularity in any given place. Even in Japan he seems to be doing pretty well. He's definitely doing pretty well in Europe, and he seems to be doing great in the Americas too. If Isaac isn't in this game at all again, I will be pretty confused. He seems like too big of a request to ignore in a game built off of fanservice.
 

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Oh, yay. 200 pages. I still can't keep track of them all.
 

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King K Rool was one, since Rare was a British studio, but since he has now become a character, Isaac is now #1 in europe.
That is what I was thinking. K Rool, and some other characters had vocal fanbases just about everywhere. If Isaac is #1 in Europe Sakurai may want to please fans in Europe with a character. At least I hope he thinks that way.
 

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https://sourcegaming.info/2018/08/24/dream-smasher-isaac/

Source gaming made a new post on Isaac, finally showing him some love and explaining why he wouldn't be a generic sword fighter. Now that's what I like to see
It's pretty cool that they made a new DreamSmashers and it's from HeroOfWinds which is cool. I made the original Isaac Dream Smashers two years ago for the 15th Anniversary and it's nice that they provided a link to it
 

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Well in the UK at least there's Banjo & Kazooie, Rayman and King K. Rool. As for the continent, I'm not too sure.
K. Rool's in, so that's one competitor towards Isaac down.

Fates had like one of the worst writing I've seen in gaming. And it's a shame because character design is pretty good.
The only writer on it that's any good was stuck only doing the third path. At least that Shibuya game he's worked on is having a remake that'll be brought over...
 
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K. Rool's in, so that's one competitor towards Isaac down.
And the other two are 3rd parties so that's another kettle of fish entirely.
Chances are looking the best they've been since Brawl.
 

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idk if Isaac is the most popular character anywhere for sure, but he definitely has a great amount of popularity in any given place. Even in Japan he seems to be doing pretty well. He's definitely doing pretty well in Europe, and he seems to be doing great in the Americas too. If Isaac isn't in this game at all again, I will be pretty confused. He seems like too big of a request to ignore in a game built off of fanservice.
It just wouldn't make sense, he literally has the biggest moveset potential! I can't think of a character with a bigger one =O, possibly Sora but you know, third party xD and even with that i'm still note even sure!
 
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K. Rool's in, so that's one competitor towards Isaac down.



The only writer on it that's any good was stuck only doing the third path. At least that Shibuya game he's worked on is having a remake that'll be brought over...
If you’re telling me the writer for The World Ends With You also wrote for Fates, you better be prepared to show evidence.

The difference between qualities is abysmal.
 

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Yeah... I mean I've had some decent conversations about it but I think it was just so all over the place. Three Houses is surely looking better.


I wouldn't stop

But I think they're gonna do Isaac first then Felix if that happens just b/c Felix is echoing Isaac.
Yeah, I could see them announcing an Echo before a new character if the Echo wasn't based on that new character. But for a new character and Echo, the new character has to come first.
 

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If you’re telling me the writer for The World Ends With You also wrote for Fates, you better be prepared to show evidence.

The difference between qualities is abysmal.
Nah, talking about this guy: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm7078362/
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=112508

Then again, one of the Fates directors was partially behind Awakening, so everyone would have been dragged down this sinking ship no matter what.

Edit: Also, I was referring to 428 Shibuya earlier, not TWEWY, so I apologize for being unnecessarily vague.

It just wouldn't make sense, he literally has the biggest moveset potential! I can't think of a character with a bigger one =O, possibly Sora but you know, third party xD and even with that i'm still note even sure!
Can Shantae also count for a Top 3 of big moveset potential?
 
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Yeah, I could see them announcing an Echo before a new character if the Echo wasn't based on that new character. But for a new character and Echo, the new character has to come first.
It would be pretty awkward if Felix showed up before Isaac in a trailer imo. The way I always imagined it, even before the Richter reveal, was that if Felix showed up as a costume (this was before we even knew about echoes) that he would show up halfway through to help Isaac fight some villain or something. I don't think Felix is gonna show up before Isaac if he is in it all.

Sidenote though, I feel like Felix totally got some votes, and I feel like if Isaac gets in, he will probably get in as an echo too. It just makes sense, and I think a lot of GS fans would be happy.
 
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I'm still adamant against Sora, so I won't budge on that.

Anyway, happy we made 200 pages. Didn't expect us to reach 100 before December.
 

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I don't know if this has been said already, but Sakurai makes a note of which characters are highly requested in specific regions. Sakurai said that Ridley and Dark Samus were requested in the West (America). Before smash 4 was released he said Little Mac was a requested character in the West. He also said that Chrom was highly requested in Japan. When Bayonetta was revealed he said that she was the #1 pick in Europe. With all of this in mind Isaac could be a highly requested character in Europe. Do we know of any other characters that are very popular in Europe that would contest Isaac?
Bayo was never a number 1 pick, that was a lie. We all know Bayo did not win the ballot.

Yeah... I mean I've had some decent conversations about it but I think it was just so all over the place. Three Houses is surely looking better.


I wouldn't stop

But I think they're gonna do Isaac first then Felix if that happens just b/c Felix is echoing Isaac.
I am so excited for 3 houses. I really hope they fix the story.
It would be pretty awkward if Felix showed up before Isaac in a trailer imo. The way I always imagined it, even before the Richter reveal, was that if Felix showed up as a costume (this was before we even knew about echoes) that he would show up halfway through to help Isaac fight some villain or something. I don't think Felix is gonna show up before Isaac if he is in it all.

Sidenote though, I feel like Felix totally got some votes, and I feel like if Isaac gets in, he will probably get in as an echo too. It just makes sense, and I think a lot of GS fans would be happy.
I just want to see Felix strike down Isaac and remove his mask. That would be a wet dream
 

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I'm still adamant against Sora, so I won't budge on that.

Anyway, happy we made 200 pages. Didn't expect us to reach 100 before December.
That's totally fine you don't have support every character. What really matters is Sakurai hopefully doesn't share your opinion.
 
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