Sunrise, Sunset - Isaac for Smash Ultimate #GoldenSunday

[XenoWarriorX]

Honestly, i'll just trash my theory.

Trying to predict sakurai is like trying to touch the sky.

I've just run out of ideas on how to identify why he makes these descions, but it's just impossible.

i apologize.

With that, i'm off to sleep.

 

[Teeb147]

Honestly, i'll just trash my theory.

Trying to predict sakurai is like trying to touch the sky.

I've just run out of ideas on how to identify why he makes these descions, but it's just impossible.

i apologize.

With that, i'm off to sleep.

ahh come one don't get down on yourself like that. I think you did good, because honestly, what else can you look at? You can't predict Sakurai, you can only work with what you have. there's reasons to include characters, but then there's also Nintendo, and Sakurai, being themselves, whether it's whims or calculated, we can't know everything. We can only try to make good guesses, and speculate.

 

[Organization XIII]

Banjo - Lots of votes. Moveset potential, but not very unique,, at least as I see it. But I count him low because he's microsoft, and I'm no sure they would want him in anyway because of duckhuntdog already being a similar duo. He may still have chances, it's debatable, but I still dont put him in top 5.
.

Ummm no. I'm going to guess you haven't played his games but Duck Hunt and Banjo would share about 2 moves and that's it. Saying Duck Hunt makes Banjo not unique is kinda like saying Cloud isn't unique because we have Link since he's blond and has a sword, or Megaman isn't unique because Samus already has an arm cannon. The similarities are superficial at best.

I'm late but

Sora can get IF we get KH3 on Switch, and on Switch first!

Paper Mario... he is cool BUT if I see anyone that complain about FE char be happy about him... I will get my sword because we have a LOT of Mario character and they don't have the "echo thing" as excuse, and I know that "Nintendo's face" but is a HUGE hypocrisy want another Mario(not Mario character, another Mario) while complaining ABOUT THE MOST UNIQUE ECHO BECAUSE C'MON CHROM IS MORE UNIQUE THAN SOME SEMI-CLONES.

I mean 3rd parties aren't tied to game promotion so I don't really think KH3's status on Switch means jack to his inclusion otherwise Cloud and Snake have some explaining to do about what they are doing there

As for Paper Mario, I mean sure he is technically another Mario but at least he would have a completely new moveset instead of being based off Marth again. Sure Chrom may have a bit of variation but at the same time, FE has a lot of characters that could be added that don't need to be pasted on to Marth's skeleton and I think that's where a good bit of hate comes from.

 

[Teeb147]

Ummm no. I'm going to guess you haven't played his games but Duck Hunt and Banjo would share about 2 moves and that's it. Saying Duck Hunt makes Banjo not unique is kinda like saying Cloud isn't unique because we have Link since he's blond and has a sword, or Megaman isn't unique because Samus already has an arm cannon. The similarities are superficial at best.

Like I said it's debatable. I wasn't talking about moves though, I meant their look, that is a dog and a bird on it. You think Nintendo is completely unbiased? Banjo still rates high, but I just feel like they would discount him to some degree. Also, there's more reasons that I didn't go into deeper about microsoft, etc.

 

[Organization XIII]

Like I said it's debatable. I wasn't talking about moves though, I meant their look, that is a dog and a bird on it. You think Nintendo is completely unbiased? Banjo still rates high, but I just feel like they would discount him to some degree. Also, there's more reasons that I didn't go into deeper about microsoft, etc.

I mean that's fine I just wouldn't put a lot of stock into "they are both a brown mammal with a bird" as a factor in keeping Banjo out. There are real reasons they might not make it, so I see no merit to dwell on arguments that if the devs really want to nitpick and squint just right might be an issue.

 

[XenoWarriorX]

ahh come one don't get down on yourself like that. I think you did good, because honestly, what else can you look at? You can't predict Sakurai, you can only work with what you have. there's reasons to include characters, but then there's also Nintendo, and Sakurai, being themselves, whether it's whims or calculated, we can't know everything. We can only try to make good guesses, and speculate.

The thing is, I was proven wrong by Sakurai before on what I think was those factors.

Was it realvancy? No. King K rool would be a counter to that.

Is it Nintendo exclusivity? Again, cloud.

The only things left were...moveset potential...the ballot...and the franchise's status.

And if it is the status of a franchise that make them top priority...god. I wouldn't want to go that negative...

But yeah.

 

[Teeb147]

I mean that's fine I just wouldn't put a lot of stock into "they are both a brown mammal with a bird" as a factor in keeping Banjo out. There are real reasons they might not make it, so I see no merit to dwell on arguments that if the devs really want to nitpick and squint just right might be an issue.

A game is a work of art, with lots of blocks in it counting for the whole of what it is. I'm saying that it does count to a degree how they feel about the look of having the two in the game. It's not everything, but it's worth mentioning.

 

[Organization XIII]

A game is a work of art, with lots of blocks in it counting for the whole of what it is. I'm saying that it does count to a degree how they feel about the look of having the two in the game. It's not everything, but it's worth mentioning.

I really don't agree. The benefits of adding one of if not the biggest third party far outstrip the potential negative of two characters having a passing resemblance to one another. At the end of the day if Banjo doesn't make the roster it'll be something far more important that kept him from being a part of Ultimate, not Duck Hunt, so again I say it's not really an argument worth dwelling on.

 

[Teeb147]

The thing is, I was proven wrong by Sakurai before on what I think was those factors.

Was it realvancy? No. King K rool would be a counter to that.

Is it Nintendo exclusivity? Again, cloud.

The only things left were...moveset potential...the ballot...and the franchise's status.

And if it is the status of a franchise that make them top priority...god. I wouldn't want to go that negative...

But yeah.

The way I see it, everything you thought was criteria were guidelines. Not rules. So you're right about them, they count, but they can go beyond them too.

Think about it this way, a business has resources, and time and energy is one of them. You expend less if you have more to work with (like movesets). so it's always going to count, but then they have visions and ideas that might go beyond always taking the easy route. And there's good reasoning for what you said. It's just Nintendo will surprise us too

get some good rest, it helps for lots.

I really don't agree. The benefits of adding one of if not the biggest third party far outstrip the potential negative of two characters having a passing resemblance to one another. At the end of the day if Banjo doesn't make the roster it'll be something far more important that kept him from being a part of Ultimate, not Duck Hunt, so again I say it's not really an argument worth dwelling on.

I count more the microsoft stuff than that 'argument'. I couldve made that clearer. Sorry you couldn't get past it.

 

[N3ON]

How myopic would it be to look at a developers' design philosophy and history of including unorthodox elements within fighters and assume it will no longer be present because three of all four characters lack it. Does that seem like a suitable size on which not just to extrapolate but disregard the last seventeen years of the series? And not just disregard, but extend the leap in logic that not just is Sakurai refraining from the less typical movesets, but that he is so hard-pressed to envision a moveset for characters that have more limited means at their disposal he isn't bothering.

Strange considering in Smash 4, the characters like WFT and DHD had the more standard movesets, while the ones like Little Mac and Palutena had the gimmicks. There's no pattern of obvious characters getting obvious movesets or vice versa.

And that's not even mentioning Ridley, who may have come adorned gimmick-free, but has, since Brawl, challenged Sakurai in terms of feasibility and cohesion among the roster. You want to talk about an expense of effort, Sakurai has been wrestling that one for a decade. Frankly that in and of itself outweighs most unusual implementations.

And you know what, I bet you guys would be throwing Skull Kid on that list were he not so heavily expected, because frankly he has even less to work with than most of the characters you've all named. Especially if the Moon isn't even tied to his moveset.

So call if what you want, but look at the rest of the game. Look at the entire series, or any game Sakurai works on. Look at his work ethic and his entire design mentality. You think he's shied away from the more arduous or elaborate movesets just because we've only seen one (really two) so far? Of four? Because you've trouble envisioning a moveset for a character? Ok, we'll see.

 

[alguidrag]

I mean 3rd parties aren't tied to game promotion so I don't really think KH3's status on Switch means jack to his inclusion otherwise Cloud and Snake have some explaining to do about what they are doing there

As for Paper Mario, I mean sure he is technically another Mario but at least he would have a completely new moveset instead of being based off Marth again. Sure Chrom may have a bit of variation but at the same time, FE has a lot of characters that could be added that don't need to be pasted on to Marth's skeleton and I think that's where a good bit of hate comes from.[/QUOTE]

But KH3 being on switch would help his chance a lot

and for me Chrom is just a echo to people stop complaining about "too much resources being used on FE things", Paper Mario would be unique but still another Mario, like no mather how unique a character can be, he still is it, like I can see hate even for today from some Braindead guys that call Robin a Marth clone just because he is from FE, I am sure that even if in place of chrom be someone like Ephraim, Hector, Micaiah or another unique people would still complain a lot, since the 3 things Smash fanbase like to complain, 1 Waluigi being AT 2 Fire emblem 3 Swords (extra 4 being Bayoneta brokeness)

my point is, people complain about things for just being related to some franchise (I have seem the reacts to 8/8 direct, most people just turned off their brain when they saw the FE background, could be the most unique character in the world, but they would still hate it) I can do it too, I would love Geno, love even Waluigi, but I don't want another Mario because I love Mario in his games but I hate him in Smash for personal reasons and I don't want to see more Marios

 

[GoodGrief741]

Like I said it's debatable. I wasn't talking about moves though, I meant their look, that is a dog and a bird on it. You think Nintendo is completely unbiased? Banjo still rates high, but I just feel like they would discount him to some degree. Also, there's more reasons that I didn't go into deeper about microsoft, etc.

They don’t look similar though... Banjo isn’t even a dog, he’s an anthropomorphic bear. Wearing a backpack. And Kazooie doesn’t look similar to the Duck at all. If it’s their look you’re going by, then I severely question whether you have ever seen Banjo and Kazooie.

And it’s not like we have 4 blue haired swordsmen and 3 blond haired swordsmen.

 

[Teeb147]

How myopic would it be to look at a developers' design philosophy and history of including unorthodox elements within fighters and assume it will no longer be present because three of all four characters lack it. Does that seem like a suitable size on which not just to extrapolate but disregard the last seventeen years of the series? And not just disregard, but extend the leap in logic that not just is Sakurai refraining from the less typical movesets, but that he is so hard-pressed to envision a moveset for characters that have more limited means at their disposal he isn't bothering.

Strange considering in Smash 4, the characters like WFT and DHD had the more standard movesets, while the ones like Little Mac and Palutena had the gimmicks. There's no pattern of obvious characters getting obvious movesets or vice versa.

And that's not even mentioning Ridley, who may have come adorned gimmick-free, but has, since Brawl, challenged Sakurai in terms of feasibility and cohesion among the roster. You want to talk about an expense of effort, Sakurai has been wrestling that one for a decade. Frankly that in and of itself outweighs most unusual implementations.

And you know what, I bet you guys would be throwing Skull Kid on that list were he not so heavily expected, because frankly he has even less to work with than most of the characters you've all named. Especially if the Moon isn't even tied to his moveset.

So call if what you want, but look at the rest of the game. Look at the entire series, or any game Sakurai works on. Look at his work ethic and his entire design mentality. You think he's shied away from the more arduous or elaborate movesets just because we've only seen one (really two) so far? Of four? Because you've trouble envisioning a moveset for a character? Ok, we'll see.

You have a good point. At the same time, look at echos. it's the epitamy of easiness.
We have a mix of both creativity and going the easy route.

Ridley was highly requested and it took a long time to get in. So that's another one that's a mix, in a different way. I find his moveset somewhat unoriginal too. For K.Rool they used everything they had from the games, so they do use what they can rather than redesign, both out of faith of the character as well as ease.

It's not all out of our scope, we can determine some things, while some stuff escapes us. It's worth talking about it, and sometimes it means finding some structuring. I don't think you should be so hard on people trying to do that, it's part of speculating. ..Please?

 

[Organization XIII]

But KH3 being on switch would help his chance a lot

and for me Chrom is just a echo to people stop complaining about "too much resources being used on FE things", Paper Mario would be unique but still another Mario, like no mather how unique a character can be, he still is it, like I can see hate even for today from some Braindead guys that call Robin a Marth clone just because he is from FE, I am sure that even if in place of chrom be someone like Ephraim, Hector, Micaiah or another unique people would still complain a lot, since the 3 things Smash fanbase like to complain, 1 Waluigi being AT 2 Fire emblem 3 Swords (extra 4 being Bayoneta brokeness)

my point is, people complain about things for just being related to some franchise (I have seem the reacts to 8/8 direct, most people just turned off their brain when they saw the FE background, could be the most unique character in the world, but they would still hate it) I can do it too, I would love Geno, love even Waluigi, but I don't want another Mario because I love Mario in his games but I hate him in Smash for personal reasons and I don't want to see more Marios

Not really. Third parties aren't added due for advertisement (ignore Bayo) they are inclusions that make Smash look better instead. KH3 being on Switch doesn't change things it really only matters if Sakurai views Sora as a big enough name to approach Disney.
And yes some probably would complain even if the FE newcomers were unique but if so many weren't clones I do think that wouldn't be as much of the case. Originally the "no more sword users" came because people wanted the lance and axe users from FE to also make their debut in Smash but most of the characters being added being clones plus FE becoming the poster child for "my characters aren't in so I'm going to blame X series" really soured people on the series. It's a shame really that the no swordsmen thing devolved from wanting a solid depiction of a series into a ridiculous mantra for stupid fans. But anyways I do think people are more accepting of a diverse move pool even if they think a series is getting too much attention. I mean look at Pokemon, sure the popular opinion is we don't need more, but you also don't see people angered by the idea of more Pokemon. So yes I think Paper Mario wouldn't receive as much backlash as an FE character but it makes sense to me as to why.
Also since Mario and Paper Mario are technically different characters it should be fine if he makes it

 

[Teeb147]

They don’t look similar though... Banjo isn’t even a dog, he’s an anthropomorphic bear. Wearing a backpack. And Kazooie doesn’t look similar to the Duck at all. If it’s their look you’re going by, then I severely question whether you have ever seen Banjo and Kazooie.

And it’s not like we have 4 blue haired swordsmen and 3 blond haired swordsmen.

Fine, they're nothing alike, one's a bear with a bird, and the other is a dog with a bird. yup. Btw, I'm not the only one who shares the sentiment that they're alike, there's been debates about that, and it never amounts anywhere, so I'm just going to say there's enough people that think that way to say it's a factor, even if for a lot of people it doesn't matter to them. I rest my case with that cuz I dont feel like talking about it more and im going to bed.

And sorry if I was harsh with certain characters, I was just trying to be realistic in my own way, and just like anything there can still be bias. Don't be too harsh on me back just because of that. at least I ask that. And I don't want to be mean either. s'all good, I think.

nighty.

 

[N3ON]

You have a good point. At the same time, look at echos. it's the epitamy of easiness.
We have a mix of both creativity and going the easy route.

Ridley was highly requested and it took a long time to get in. So that's another one that's a mix, in a different way. I find his moveset somewhat unoriginal too. For K.Rool they used everything they had from the games, so they do use what they can rather than redesign, both out of faith of the character as well as ease.

It's not all out of our scope, we can determine some things, while some stuff escapes us. It's worth talking about it, and sometimes it means finding some structuring. I don't think you should be so hard on people trying to do that, it's part of speculating. ..Please?

Sure echoes are easy but echoes aren't really new, and clones always eschew the normal inclusion process. It's like when Sakurai said "characters must offer something unique" as a prerequisite for inclusion, then he went ahead and added a handful of clones. Even he doesn't count them. xP

And finding some... structuring? Well I disagree with what seems to be the majority opinion, but obviously anyone is free to think what they want and come to their own conclusions. I'm happy people are standing by what they believe in, but construing patterns, let alone patterns out of such minimal, perhaps feeble footing, is a risky tactic that often collapses in on itself. I just don't think that mentality will stand anyone in good stead.

I mean even regardless of the whole Sakurai aspect, some of those characters are not challenging to create movesets for (though some do require more outside the box thinking)... but to each their own.

 

[Organization XIII]

Fine, they're nothing alike, one's a bear with a bird, and the other is a dog with a bird. yup. Btw, I'm not the only one who shares the sentiment that they're alike, there's been debates about that, and it never amounts anywhere, so I'm just going to say there's enough people that think that way to say it's a factor, even if for a lot of people it doesn't matter to them. I rest my case with that cuz I dont feel like talking about it more and im going to bed.

And sorry if I was harsh with certain characters, I was just trying to be realistic in my own way, and just like anything there can still be bias. Don't be too harsh on me back just because of that. at least I ask that. And I don't want to be mean either. s'all good, I think.

nighty.

No one was trying to be harsh mate or at least I wasn't. We were just trying to explain why that argument isn't really worth considering. Like for instance, you bring up now that people keep debating about Banjo's similarities with Duck Hunt so it's big enough so it can be a factor however far more people believe we shouldn't get new sword characters and yet Sakurai has completely disregarded such thinking as evidence by Chrom. Just because something is debated by fans doesn't mean much. If Banjo isn't in then either a deal couldn't be negotiated Microsoft or Sakurai never approached them in the first place meaning Duck Hunt would have no part to play in their exclusion. However, if Sakurai did decide to go through with the legal proceedings to add them then something so minor wouldn't be able to stop their inclusion. So I just think it's not a big enough issue to be looked at as it won't affect them either way.

 

[NessAtc.]

guys please we shouldn't be arguing about this in the Isaac thread

we should instead be posting fun stuff

 

[pholtos]

The Wise One as a Tennis Player.

 

[Sabrewulf238]

Hasn't Sakurai said in the past that a character has to dance for him in his head when it comes to making a moveset? So I'd imagine he has some biases based on that. Good luck figuring out what those biases might be though.

Still, looking at characters like Villager or Ridley it's clear he finds a way to make it work when he needs to. So I think any popular character without an obvious moveset wouldn't need to worry too much.

 

[alguidrag]

Marios Tennis Ace is alredy out? If Isaac gets on Smash I think he will appear there too XD Would be funny a comic Waluigi x Isaac, who wins this Tennis match will be on Smash
Isaac: JUDGMENT
the stadium is destroyed and Isaac wins by default, THE END

 

[N3ON]

Hasn't Sakurai said in the past that a character has to dance for him in his head when it comes to making a moveset? So I'd imagine he has some biases based on that. Good luck figuring out what those biases might be though.

That sounds like something even Sakurai might not 100% sure the meaning of.

 

[EarlTamm]

That sounds like something even Sakurai might not 100% sure the meaning of.

Maybe he means that he can imagine what they can and he like what he can see? I have no clue, it's Sakurai, all we do know as of now is that the ballot is playing a big role, not that it was a secret before hand.

 

[N3ON]

Maybe he means that he can imagine what they can and he like what he can see? I have no clue, it's Sakurai, all we do know as of now is that the ballot is playing a big role, not that it was a secret before hand.

Such a fanciful metaphor makes it seem like Sakurai works simply at the whim of his imagination, which is an interesting approach for a project as large in scale as Smash. However it also seems more and more like the fanbase is whispering in his ear, as I'm sure the number of characters he can see dancing is no short supply. Ultimately I think that's a good thing.

Learning his thought process from conception to finished product would be fascinating, all we are privy to are glimpses and weird metaphors. ;P

 

[EarlTamm]

Such a fanciful metaphor makes it seem like Sakurai works simply at the whim of his imagination, which is an interesting approach for a project as large in scale as Smash. However it also seems more and more like the fanbase is whispering in his ear, as I'm sure the number of characters he can see dancing is no short supply. Ultimately I think that's a good thing.

Learning his thought process from conception to finished product would be fascinating, all we are privy to are glimpses and weird metaphors. ;P

It's a shame he does not share his insight more often. The only character left that we have really heard his opinion on is Geno, and he had nothing but nice things. Funnily enough, that dancing metaphor kinda works for Geno, since he is partially based off Pinocchio.

 

[StormC]

I think Sakurai asking "can a character dance?" just means if he can envision a kinetic, thematically-coherent moveset for them.

 

[Isaac: Venus Adept]

BomberMan has a ton to work with, he has an extensive library of games with various moves they can pull from. I feel like the reason Bomberman was made into an assist trophy was because Sakurai probably preferred Simon over him as they were from the same company and Castlevania had a huge impact on his career

 

[Sabrewulf238]

I came across this poll if anyone wants to vote in it.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScSve_dhIlk3UFzJeWccUXwCdMuVcCcp-UaOAfWTD2G48qK-A/viewform

 

[EarlTamm]

BomberMan has a ton to work with, he has an extensive library of games with various moves they can pull from. I feel like the reason Bomberman was made into an assist trophy was because Sakurai probably preferred Simon over him as they were from the same company and Castlevania had a huge impact on his career

Yeah, that sounds about right. It's nice that Sakurai did not just leave him out though.

 

[BravadoMan_13]

Man this thread catapulted since the Direct two weeks ago! I just finished catching up with this thread and it took me probably a week lol. The heavy increase of pages takes me back to the Ridley thread back in Smash 4.

But anyways, it's great to see more support for Issac since K. Rool was konfirmed. I saw that Sakurai tweet teasing Golden Sun. I just know that Issac is on the way. It's only a matter of time when he is fully revealed. After getting my dream realized in top newcomers in K. Rool and Ridley konfirmed, you guys deserve to have Issac in and have your glory in the sun. I've supported Issac since the Brawl days, but you guys who have played the Golden Sun series have deeper connections and memories to Issac more than I do. Issac is still among my most wanted newcomers along with Dixie and Banjo-Kazooie. Let's keep this train rolling fellow Adepts!

 

[EarlTamm]

Man this thread catapulted since the Direct two weeks ago! I just finished catching up with this thread and it took me probably a week lol. The heavy increase of pages takes me back to the Ridley thread back in Smash 4.

You now, I wonder what threads profited the most from the direct. Well, I think we can safely say this one is number 1 in that regard, but it would be neat to see how activity spiked on certain threads like Geno, Shantae, Skull Kid, and the like. Sounds like a fun project.

 

[SuperNintendoKid]

"I referred to the Smash Ballot when selecting characters this time, and King K. Rool from the Donkey Kong series was one who received a ton of votes. I haven’t gone into detail about his moves or characteristics, but I feel it might be better to leave some room for imagination. "

Latest famitsu quote by sakurai, this gives me so much hope now ;u;

 

[DogManStar]

Just eyeballing it, the Geno thread looks noticeably bigger in the wake of this last direct. I think Banjo is starting to grow a good bit now, too.

 

[EarlTamm]

Just eyeballing it, the Geno thread looks noticeably bigger in the wake of this last direct. I think Banjo is starting to grow a good bit now, too.

Yeah, the Geno thread has pretty much doubled in size.

 

[Sabrewulf238]

Apparently Vergeben has said a Square Enix character is in, but he doesn't know who it is:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/76928990

The actual post by Vergeben: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/76928398?page=9 (it's the last post)

Any thoughts on this?

 

[DogManStar]

Apparently Vergeben has said a Square Enix character is in, but he doesn't know who it is:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/76928990

The actual post by Vergeben: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/76928398?page=9 (it's the last post)

Any thoughts on this?

If it's not Geno I'm gonna be surprised. Could be Sora I guess, but Geno just makes more sense. Not expecting someone like Terra.

 

[EarlTamm]

Apparently Vergeben has said a Square Enix character is in, but he doesn't know who it is:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/76928990

The actual post by Vergeben: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/76928398?page=9 (it's the last post)

Any thoughts on this?

It will partially silence those who believe that Square would not get a secound rep because the are "stingy."

 

[GoodGrief741]

Apparently Vergeben has said a Square Enix character is in, but he doesn't know who it is:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/76928990

The actual post by Vergeben: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/76928398?page=9 (it's the last post)

Any thoughts on this?

Real or not, it’s definitely Geno. If Verg’s a liar then that’s still clearly what he’s going for. If real, there’s really nobody else it could be. (With the recent ballot comments, I can’t see Sora over Geno.)

 

[EarlTamm]

Also, I don't see it being a secound FF rep. The FF series is still exclusively reping FF7 on the music screen rather than the franchise as a whole, so Terra is likely a no show.

 

[SirCamp]

IMO it's between Geno and a Dragon Quest rep. And I think their chances are much closer to each other than most people on Smashboards. I actually almost lean more towards a DQ rep myself. We shall see though. It's definitely not going to be Lara Croft though. Assuming this is real info to begin with.