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Success/Popularity stuff. Final update coming later today!

John12346

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So far 13 different MK banned tournaments have occurred in 2011. I will release the MK banned charts when 20 such tournies have gone by.

Anyway, monthly update! Gogogo!

Raw Data

Characters
ICs: 50
Snake: 111.7
Olimar: 6.5
Yoshi: 55
MK: 147.83
Wario: 81
R.O.B.: 61.6
Ike: 10
Luigi: 10
Zamus: 10
Dedede: 10
Falco: 62.63
Marth: 38.13
Pit: 28.6
Peach: 22
Mario: 5.5
DK: 5.5

Users
ICs: 50
Snake: 125.9
Olimar: 6.5
Yoshi: 110
MK: 332.8
Wario: 81
R.O.B.: 90.2
Ike: 10
Luigi: 10
Zamus: 30
Dedede: 30
Falco: 158.4
Marth: 114.4
Pit: 57.2
Peach: 22
Mario: 11
DK: 11

Players
DeLux ICs: 50
Yes! Snake: 19.5
Fino Olimar: 6.5
FireFly Yoshi: 110
FireFly MK: 110
Croi Wario: 66
Drake R.O.B.: 33
Billybeegood MK: 11
Nysyarc Ike: 10
Zhao Luigi: 10
Lee MK: 30
Lee Zamus: 30
Lee Dedede: 30
JNig Wario: 15
Li-D Falco: 5
DarkLink Marth: 114.4
DarkLink Falco: 114.4
DarkLink MK: 114.4
KiraFlax Pit: 57.2
KiraFlax R.O.B.: 57.2
Kyle Peach: 22
Jard MK: 15.4
Jard Snake: 15.4
Stevo Mario: 11
Stevo DK: 11
Fatal Snake: 78
Bloodcross Falco: 39
Bloodcross MK: 39
Bizkit Snake: 13
Bizkit MK: 13

Tournaments Used
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=309875
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=309812
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=309757
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=309731
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=309705

Tournaments Unused
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=309853 - No payout
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30+ Entrant Tournaments

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45+ Entrant Tournaments

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100+ Entrant Tournaments

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MK Banned Tournaments

Characters
ICs: 69
Dedede: 79
Wario: 20.33
Lucas: 16
Snake: 33
Marth: 19.33
Pit: 9
Z-Sheik: 9
Falco: 79
GaW: 103.33
Pikachu: 24.33
DK: 24.33
Wolf: 46
Diddy: 4.33
Luigi: 13

Users
ICs: 154
Dedede: 132
Wario: 61
Lucas: 48
Snake: 48
Marth: 43
Pit: 9
Z-Sheik: 9
Falco: 158
GaW: 231
Pikachu: 73
DK: 73
Wolf: 46
Diddy: 13
Luigi: 13

Usage
ICs: 2
Dedede: 4
Wario: 7
Lucas: 1
Snake: 6
Marth: 9
Pit: 2
Z-Sheik: 1
TLink: 1
Diddy: 4
Falco: 4
DK: 3
Pikachu: 2
Wolf: 6
Zamus: 2
Fox: 2
Olimar: 3
R.O.B.: 2
Lucario: 3
GaW: 3
Luigi: 1
Ike: 2
Kirby: 3
Sheik: 1
Samus: 1
Yoshi: 1
Zelda: 1
Sonic: 1
Ness: 1

Tournaments Used
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=309788
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=309720


Update Commentary
- Diddy Kong has failed to make money for two weeks in a row now! What the hell is going on!?




Monthly Charts

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Character Success - Non-cumulative:


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Average Success - Cumulative:


Average Success - Non cumulative:




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Ripple

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August alone had like 10 MK banned tournaments. that was quite awesome
 

DeLux

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Can I get an IC money breakdown at your convenience :)
 

John12346

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Ice Climbers

Ally 2205.5
Vinnie 917.75
Lain 905
ESAM 561.5
Vex 504
Atomsk 378.5
Swordgard 268
Cheese 165.8
MeroKnight 164.4
Hylian 163.5
DeLux 150.4
Blue Rogue 141
Sin242 132
Sorto 100
H1N1 76
Frank Rizzle 70
GIMR 66
Nuke 50
Arty 49
Smoom 46.2
2D-Jeff 45
Cura 33
Enzo 33
MintyFlesh 27
Dakpo 26
Ninjalink 22.6
Fino 18.9
Tech_Chase 17
Bad Karma 13
Ori_Bro 10
Snipa 8
Prawn 7.5
Ambrose 5
Rubberbandman 4
 

John12346

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Not in 2011, you haven't.

If you think there's a tournament I may have missed when compiling my data, you're free to show.
 

Prawn

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Not in 2011, you haven't.

If you think there's a tournament I may have missed when compiling my data, you're free to show.
oh well fugg 2011 i didnt even know i made money this year.

fugg minty
 

SaveMeJebus

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I think you guys should make a chart using tournament results where three or more ranked players attended
 

John12346

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Sorting through each tourney would take... an absolutely ridiculous amount of time. You know how many tournaments have gone into this data; I posted a full list for you earlier in some other thread, and sorting through them on a specific filter like what you're requesting would be nothing short of insanity.

I'd like to know what purpose this kind of information would serve that's not already evident from what we currently have before us.
 

SaveMeJebus

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It gives us more accurate information than using tournaments with thirty players or more
 

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he's just looking for some sort of data where MK has lower dominance so he can claim it's undeniable proof that MK isn't overcentralizing.
 

DeLux

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I move to put Jebus in charge of gathering data for that statistic in his own thread

Can I get someone to second that?
 

SaveMeJebus

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he's just looking for some sort of data where MK has lower dominance so he can claim it's undeniable proof that MK isn't overcentralizing.
How? Most of the MKs that make money are top level players
 

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I wouldn't say that about Ally though...

Though, I'm still interested in what top players that use MKs will switch too.

/done with offtopic

Anyway, it's always bittersweet coming in and reading the data
M2K will probably play diddy, Tyrant has marth, Lain has ICs, Cheese has ICs, Anti has wolf/falco, Holynightmare has Rob, nairo has sheik, Atomsk has everyone,
 

Ripple

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I don't know about you but I highly doubt people play their main character because of stages
 

SaveMeJebus

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The only top level MK player is M2K. Every other top level player mains Some other character and MK
 

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MK is the last character I'd play to abuse the stagelist... seeing as he plays one of his worst stages 2/3 games in a set. MK has his ******** CPs because it's just what happens when a stage buffs him like a CP should.

characters like ICs, Falco, and Diddy thrive off the stagelist. They get their best stages 2/3 games.
 

Ripple

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The only top level MK player is M2K. Every other top level player mains Some other character and MK
so? what's your point? some people play other characters for fun. like anti and nairo
 

SaveMeJebus

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For fun? I'm pretty sure Anti didn't use Diddy against Mike for fun. Mike beat his MK.
 

Ripple

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I don't know about Nairo. He seems to use different characters when he knows he can't win. I haven't seen him win with his other characters
so then my point still stands that some people use characters for fun
 

SaveMeJebus

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so then my point still stands that some people use characters for fun
How is that for fun? He can't win them with MK so he tries using other characters. Who's to say that players that use MK aren't using him for fun?
 

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Because I'm currently compiling some data that's going to throw that theory out the window.

Stand by...
 

Ripple

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How is that for fun? He can't win them with MK so he tries using other characters. Who's to say that players that use MK aren't using him for fun?
If I had no hope in winning, I'd play a fun character.

and your second point is ********, it doesn't matter if some people play MK for fun. my point was that some top level players play other characters for fun
 

SaveMeJebus

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If I had no hope in winning, I'd play a fun character.

and your second point is ********, it doesn't matter if some people play MK for fun. my point was that some top level players play other characters for fun
They do, but John12346 says he makes sure those characters aren't used in the data. Things like M2K's ganon or Ally and M2K's Falco dittos so that doesn't matter
 

Ripple

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They do, but John12346 says he makes sure those characters aren't used in the data. Things like M2K's ganon or Ally and M2K's Falco dittos so that doesn't matter
and rightly so, but that doesn't mean that they don't play them
 
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