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Welcome to the Steve/Alex Social thread!
Neutral B - Mine/Craft/Place Block
This move varies depending on if you're on the ground, next to a crating table, or in the air. On the ground, you mine the area in front of you, dropping materials that you automatically collect. You can't hold infinite materials and will drop some if you go over a limit. You can see how many of each material you have at the bottom next to the character portrait. The materials are ordered weakest to strongest, with Dirt being the weakest and Iron being the strongest. The mineable stuff includes:
Wood
Cobblestone
Dirt
Sand
Iron Ingots
Gold Ingots
Redstone
Diamonds
Redstone does not appear on the character portrait and Gold and Diamond are shown next to it. The material you will use for crafting will shine periodically.
Each stage differs in what material you mine. For instance, stages such as Kongo Jungle yield more Wood while Corneria yields more Iron. Battlefield and Final Destination forms of each stage do not differ in the frequency of the material you can mine. That said, all materials can eventually be found on all stages, the only difference is frequency.
When the match begins a crafting table is automatically placed next to Steve's spawn point. Pressing B next to one will craft a new set of tools using the best item (Wood, Stone, Iron, Gold, Diamond). You can also use it to repair your current tools. Opponents (and the player) can destroy the crafting table by attacks near it. If it breaks it respawns after a short period of time. The player can also spawn a new one by shielding and pressing the special move button, even if one is already present on the stage.
In the air, Steve automatically places a block starting with the weakest materials. The blocks start to break after placing and landing on one speeds up the process. You can use this to block attacks, build platforms, or feint your opponents. However you need materials to place blocks and you cannot build past a certain point of the stage. Dirt is the weakest block, followed by Wood, Stone, and Iron.
Side B - Minecart
Hop in a Minecart and ride the rails! If you have Iron you can add more rails. Anyone in your way will get rammed by this attack. However there are a few things to consider.
First the Minecart has trouble going up hills. When one is encountered you roll back. If you have Gold and Redstone you can craft powered rails, giving you an extra boost. Additionally you can hop out of the Minecart at any time. When doing so the Minecart becomes a command grab, taking the opponent for a ride. They can escape but they'll be in there longer the more damage they have. Finally, if you don't have Iron, you will come to an early stop.
Up B - Elytra
Grab a firework rocket, put on the Elytra, and glide through the air! After launching you can move up and down to control trajectory. The initial launch has a hotbox but after that you are vulnerable. You can aim where you go before the firework goes off. Go too far high and the move ends early, you cannot glide again if this happens. Additionally the Elytra will fall off eventually, try to get to where you need to go before that happens.
Down B - TNT
Spawn a block of TNT. The dynamite explodes after a certain amount of time and explodes earlier if attacked, especially with fire based attacks. Attacking it lets you move it. By using Down B again you can place Redstone that leads to a Pressure Plate. Stepping on the Pressure Plate causes the TNT to go off immediately. Be aware that you can place a Pressure Plate next to the TNT with no circuit. Stepping on it then causes you to get caught in the explosion. You can also use this to force opponents to approach differently since they can also trigger the explosion. Whoever triggers the Pressure Plate takes less damage than other opponents caught in the blast.
Final Smash - The House of Boom!
For the Final Smash, Steve uses a Piston to send opponents to the House of Boom! The house contains Zombies, Creepers, and TNT! As the Explosion occurs, Steve appears to eat a victory steak! Only one person can enter the house, but multiple people can get hit by the piston.
This move varies depending on if you're on the ground, next to a crating table, or in the air. On the ground, you mine the area in front of you, dropping materials that you automatically collect. You can't hold infinite materials and will drop some if you go over a limit. You can see how many of each material you have at the bottom next to the character portrait. The materials are ordered weakest to strongest, with Dirt being the weakest and Iron being the strongest. The mineable stuff includes:
Wood
Cobblestone
Dirt
Sand
Iron Ingots
Gold Ingots
Redstone
Diamonds
Redstone does not appear on the character portrait and Gold and Diamond are shown next to it. The material you will use for crafting will shine periodically.
Each stage differs in what material you mine. For instance, stages such as Kongo Jungle yield more Wood while Corneria yields more Iron. Battlefield and Final Destination forms of each stage do not differ in the frequency of the material you can mine. That said, all materials can eventually be found on all stages, the only difference is frequency.
When the match begins a crafting table is automatically placed next to Steve's spawn point. Pressing B next to one will craft a new set of tools using the best item (Wood, Stone, Iron, Gold, Diamond). You can also use it to repair your current tools. Opponents (and the player) can destroy the crafting table by attacks near it. If it breaks it respawns after a short period of time. The player can also spawn a new one by shielding and pressing the special move button, even if one is already present on the stage.
In the air, Steve automatically places a block starting with the weakest materials. The blocks start to break after placing and landing on one speeds up the process. You can use this to block attacks, build platforms, or feint your opponents. However you need materials to place blocks and you cannot build past a certain point of the stage. Dirt is the weakest block, followed by Wood, Stone, and Iron.
Side B - Minecart
Hop in a Minecart and ride the rails! If you have Iron you can add more rails. Anyone in your way will get rammed by this attack. However there are a few things to consider.
First the Minecart has trouble going up hills. When one is encountered you roll back. If you have Gold and Redstone you can craft powered rails, giving you an extra boost. Additionally you can hop out of the Minecart at any time. When doing so the Minecart becomes a command grab, taking the opponent for a ride. They can escape but they'll be in there longer the more damage they have. Finally, if you don't have Iron, you will come to an early stop.
Up B - Elytra
Grab a firework rocket, put on the Elytra, and glide through the air! After launching you can move up and down to control trajectory. The initial launch has a hotbox but after that you are vulnerable. You can aim where you go before the firework goes off. Go too far high and the move ends early, you cannot glide again if this happens. Additionally the Elytra will fall off eventually, try to get to where you need to go before that happens.
Down B - TNT
Spawn a block of TNT. The dynamite explodes after a certain amount of time and explodes earlier if attacked, especially with fire based attacks. Attacking it lets you move it. By using Down B again you can place Redstone that leads to a Pressure Plate. Stepping on the Pressure Plate causes the TNT to go off immediately. Be aware that you can place a Pressure Plate next to the TNT with no circuit. Stepping on it then causes you to get caught in the explosion. You can also use this to force opponents to approach differently since they can also trigger the explosion. Whoever triggers the Pressure Plate takes less damage than other opponents caught in the blast.
Final Smash - The House of Boom!
For the Final Smash, Steve uses a Piston to send opponents to the House of Boom! The house contains Zombies, Creepers, and TNT! As the Explosion occurs, Steve appears to eat a victory steak! Only one person can enter the house, but multiple people can get hit by the piston.
Welcome to the Steve support thread!
Here we discuss the crafty miner getting into Smash!
Who?
The default player skin of Minecraft, Steve wakes up one day in a endless world. Starting with nothing, the player eventually turns the world into their own canvas. From here, Steve can do what he wishes including farm, mine, or fight monsters.
In Minecraft, the player crafts a variety of tools such as pickaxes, swords, and other tools. Everything in the game has multiple functions limited only by what the player wishes to do with that item.
Also in the image above is Alex, the default female player avatar. She would be present as an alt skin to Steve.
What would Steve's moves be?
Shown here and here are two moveset ideas (Special thanks to TheMarioaddict and Axel_)
Additionally, check out this playlist by YouTube user Mego's Hideout, showcasing how Steve could move and be animated while keeping his blocky aesthetic.
Arguments for:
The most successful game of all time
Microsoft is willing to play ball, most noticeable now that Banjo & Kazooie are playable
Has been endorsed by Nintendo, receiving an exclusive mashup pack and a special 3DS model.
Arguments against and counters to those arguments:
Only one rep per third party for DLC:
While this rule has not broken yet, I feel Sakurai may wish to make an exception since he, alongside millions of others, has praised Minecraft. Especially since we know Microsoft is willing to play ball with Smash Ultimate.
His movement would be too stiff:
Other characters do have somewhat stiff movement (Mr. Game and Watch) but are able to function. Additionally, the Smash team can create animations as the video playlist up above shows.
Stage idea:
(Note: Image is only a sample)
The world of Minecraft is vast and expansive. Fighters would be above the world on a platform that showcases a variety of biomes. Every time the stage is loaded, the biomes change. A day and night cycle is present. During the day, things are peaceful, but at night, hostile mobs appear. Look out for the creepers!
Music:
Sweden
Floating Trees
Battle Mode 1
Dead Voxel
(Note: Music is a bit short, but these are only a few songs that could end up in Smash)
In the end, Steve would bring fun gameplay and a unique aesthetic to the world of Smash. Perhaps he shall craft an invite and join the battle.
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Caravan of Noobs
S SEGAGameBoy
Graizen
Tikivoy
MacDaddyNook
JadeBladeGamer22
smash puffle
axel_
TheCJBrine
@Connorb0t2
SuperiorYoshi87
Pakky
Boygos
SuperSceptile15
@Buddafingaz
@Darktheumbreon
Verde Coeden Scalesworth
K kendikong
Rocket Raccoon
Fell God
TheJutin
SneakyLink
ButterGeek
Wunderwaft
Geoffrey Druyts
Simnm
EarlTamm
Guh-Huzzah!
Cycrum
Ramen Tengoku
@JDCabrera
Zzuxon
DoctorProctor
Mamboo07
CapitaineCrash
SharkLord
M MooMew64
RealPokeFan11
Ok.....Hear me out here.
Who is Steve?
Do you live under a rock? Almost everyone and their MOTHER knows about Minecraft. But I guess I'll explain it anyways. Minecraft is arguably the most successful PC game ever made selling practically millions each month. Minecraft is a game where you can do more or less anything from building a complete recreation of norway, mining diamonds in a cave, or even fighting zombies and skeletons with A BLOCK OF DIRT. Minecrafts world is blocky and lego esque. There are 3 main modes, Survival (Fight monsters, die a lot, find lava, and more or less just survive), Creative mode (Do as you please, and build whatever you want with infinite resources), and Adventure (for map makers, you can't break or place any blocks). And you play as a customizable player character but is mostly known for looking like the picture above. His name is not player or him or anything like that. It's Steve. A generic human name.
Why should Steve be in Smash?
Steve is arguably one of the most popular Indie characters out there. Yeah you heard me right. INDIE!Minecraft is a massively successful game. An indie no less....I mean microsoft owns it now, and I'm not even sure if it's an indie game anymore.....that aside. Minecraft has a huge fan base and has sold over 100 MILLION COPIES as of June 2016. Steves moveset could be incredibly diverse and creative. Just like in Minecraft. Plus I feel like he'd be a very great rep for the indie genre (besides Quote who I do think deserves a spot in smash). That and he's been on three Nintendo consoles. The Wii U, The New Nintendo 3DS, and The Nintendo Switch.
Counter Arguments
Minecraft isn't known for having a good fanbase:
Well yeah the fanbase of Minecraft isn't necessarily the greatest, that doesn't mean Steve shouldn't have a chance to be in smash.
Minecraft is now a Microsoft property:
Well Phil Spencer (Microsoft CEO) said a few years ago on twitter that he'd love to have Banjo and Kazooie in smash. And guess what. Banjo Kazooie (as well as other Rare properties such as Grabbed by The Ghoulies, Conker. Sea of Thieves, KILLER INSTINCT, Battletoads, Snake Rattle and Roll, ETC) is a property owned by Microsoft. So Microsoft seems to be open to including it's properties in smash. Not only that but with the recent release of Minecraft (Crossplay/Bedrock) for the switch Microsoft has been more than willing to work with Nintendo. So Steve is entirely possible.
Quote was the original Indie and deserves a spot more than Steve:
While yes it IStrue that Cave Story/Doukutsu Monogatari was what popularized the indie game genre and was the first indie/nindie on a nintendo platform. I do feel like Minecraft's Steve is more deserving of this spot because we aren't even sure IF indies can get into smash in the first place so since Minecraft isn't known for being an indie game (which to my knowledge it is), Steve is the safer bet for an Indie rep in Smash. But thats not to say Quote shouldn't be in smash. Quote definitely deserves a spot on the roster up there with Shovel Knight (Deconfirmed), Shantae (Spirit), Karate Joe (Spirit), K-Rool (HE'S IN), Arle from Puyo Puyo, Bandana Waddle Dee (Spirit), DOOMGUY, Rayman (Spirit), Ashley (Deconfirmed), Geno (Spirit), Spyro, and Crash Bandicoot. Granted all the characters I listed ALSO deserve to be in smash for their own reasons. Ok getting a bit off topic. TLDR; Steve is the safer bet for an Indie rep due to Minecraft not being very well known for being an indie game (aka not many people know it's an indie game) and also because it's just overall more popular.
Well what are your guys thoughts? Do you want Steve to be in Smash? I made this thread due to there being no Steve support thread,and out of a genuine interest to see how many people agree that he should be in smash.
Who is Steve?
Do you live under a rock? Almost everyone and their MOTHER knows about Minecraft. But I guess I'll explain it anyways. Minecraft is arguably the most successful PC game ever made selling practically millions each month. Minecraft is a game where you can do more or less anything from building a complete recreation of norway, mining diamonds in a cave, or even fighting zombies and skeletons with A BLOCK OF DIRT. Minecrafts world is blocky and lego esque. There are 3 main modes, Survival (Fight monsters, die a lot, find lava, and more or less just survive), Creative mode (Do as you please, and build whatever you want with infinite resources), and Adventure (for map makers, you can't break or place any blocks). And you play as a customizable player character but is mostly known for looking like the picture above. His name is not player or him or anything like that. It's Steve. A generic human name.
Why should Steve be in Smash?
Steve is arguably one of the most popular Indie characters out there. Yeah you heard me right. INDIE!Minecraft is a massively successful game. An indie no less....I mean microsoft owns it now, and I'm not even sure if it's an indie game anymore.....that aside. Minecraft has a huge fan base and has sold over 100 MILLION COPIES as of June 2016. Steves moveset could be incredibly diverse and creative. Just like in Minecraft. Plus I feel like he'd be a very great rep for the indie genre (besides Quote who I do think deserves a spot in smash). That and he's been on three Nintendo consoles. The Wii U, The New Nintendo 3DS, and The Nintendo Switch.
Counter Arguments
Minecraft isn't known for having a good fanbase:
Well yeah the fanbase of Minecraft isn't necessarily the greatest, that doesn't mean Steve shouldn't have a chance to be in smash.
Minecraft is now a Microsoft property:
Well Phil Spencer (Microsoft CEO) said a few years ago on twitter that he'd love to have Banjo and Kazooie in smash. And guess what. Banjo Kazooie (as well as other Rare properties such as Grabbed by The Ghoulies, Conker. Sea of Thieves, KILLER INSTINCT, Battletoads, Snake Rattle and Roll, ETC) is a property owned by Microsoft. So Microsoft seems to be open to including it's properties in smash. Not only that but with the recent release of Minecraft (Crossplay/Bedrock) for the switch Microsoft has been more than willing to work with Nintendo. So Steve is entirely possible.
Quote was the original Indie and deserves a spot more than Steve:
While yes it IStrue that Cave Story/Doukutsu Monogatari was what popularized the indie game genre and was the first indie/nindie on a nintendo platform. I do feel like Minecraft's Steve is more deserving of this spot because we aren't even sure IF indies can get into smash in the first place so since Minecraft isn't known for being an indie game (which to my knowledge it is), Steve is the safer bet for an Indie rep in Smash. But thats not to say Quote shouldn't be in smash. Quote definitely deserves a spot on the roster up there with Shovel Knight (Deconfirmed), Shantae (Spirit), Karate Joe (Spirit), K-Rool (HE'S IN), Arle from Puyo Puyo, Bandana Waddle Dee (Spirit), DOOMGUY, Rayman (Spirit), Ashley (Deconfirmed), Geno (Spirit), Spyro, and Crash Bandicoot. Granted all the characters I listed ALSO deserve to be in smash for their own reasons. Ok getting a bit off topic. TLDR; Steve is the safer bet for an Indie rep due to Minecraft not being very well known for being an indie game (aka not many people know it's an indie game) and also because it's just overall more popular.
Well what are your guys thoughts? Do you want Steve to be in Smash? I made this thread due to there being no Steve support thread,and out of a genuine interest to see how many people agree that he should be in smash.
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