Starcraft Discussion

[pockyD]

firebathero is the best

let me give you a ride to my bus (****)

 

[Mogwai]

firebathero is the best

let me give you a ride to my bus (****)

he's really awesome, his style is so unbelievably entertaining.

 

[Cynan Machae]

If he would only stop beating Savior maybe I could like him <<

 

[pockyD]

please, everyone beats savior nowadays

 

[unknownPresence]

i luv FBH's style of play, not only is it effective, its entertaining.

However I dont approve of the more than needed showboating. Thats one of the reasons why i luv much, i hav always liked him, but that heart made him a beast.

 

[pockyD]

you don't like the showboating, but you love much because of his showboating?

please, fbh is awesome in every way possible. except vs protoss.

 

[Mogwai]

fbh is made of pure awesomeness.

what's wrong with having someone with a little showmanship among the generally boring waves of standard progamers?

also, his playstyle is absurdly entertaining.

 

[unknownPresence]

dont get me wrong i do laugh, but making a heart during a game is showmanship, running around a guys cubicle and pelvic thrusting is just disrespectful.

 

[Alphicans]

Why is it disrespectful? He's happy he won, athletes in sports always celebrate when they score a goal. Look at soccer, whenever someone scores they run around, pull up their shirt, and fall on the ground shouting. Most pros, when they win, just sit there and show no emotion... To me THAT'S disrespectful, because it's disrespecting they joy of winning, and being wayyyy too modest.

 

[unknownPresence]

Thats true, but fbh is the terrel owens of starcraft, funny but disrespectful.

Also which pros dont show emotion, most matches ic the player who wins always shows an expression of relief or happiness, to me a post-victory is like that of tennis, happy to win, but focused on the task at hand-winning the next match. Like flash he has to worry about playing bisu in the next round XD. (dont worry i know its the other way around, but bisu will prevail).

 

[Alphicans]

Bisu's worst m/u is PvT, and flash's builds are sooooo much better. Not only that, Bisu's macro isn't that good, Flash's on the other hand is godly. TvP is a macro game, so GL Bisu.

 

[unknownPresence]

ya bisu will rlly have to fight to win, but hes been on a role and i think he'll carry that momentum, are we done with the fbh discussion?

 

[pockyD]

fbh is always on our hearts and minds

 

[Stahls]

Yayyy Starcraft discussion! SC is my favorite game although I kinda suck

Does anyone on here play on iccup? I'm only a D terran although I managed to get up to D+ for a few matches before losing it.


FBH is the man. His ceremonies are not disrespectful, except when he threw the food at Go.go during the proleague finals, but go.go is a BM player anyway so who cares. I think it's refreshing to see someone who's not afraid to show a little emotion, win or lose (remember when he cried?)

As far as Flash v. Bisu, I think that although Bisu's PvT is his weakest, it's still **** strong. I mean, he's probably the best in the business right now after that MSL win for a reason. I love Flash, so I'll root for him, but do not count Bisu out. Flash has been playing pretty well lately, but nowhere near how he was playing between like January and May.

 

[Alphicans]

I play Iccup. I managed a C once, almost C+, I am thinking of Iccuping this winter break.

 

[victra♥]

I play Iccup. I managed a C once, almost C+, I am thinking of Iccuping this winter break.

Same with me.

 

[unknownPresence]

I was a C- minus player on iccup (when i had time to play ), but i was a B in 2v2 though.

and idk, some pros think fbh is too much, Im surprised none of you find it disrespectful, funny or not.

 

[choknater]

fbh is awesome hahahah. it's a nice break from the rest of the sc pros who have poker faces on the WHOLE TIME, despite loss or victory. it's extremely rare for them to show any emotion

i'm rooting for stork on averatec intel classic :D

 

[Alphicans]

Same with me.

Gtfo of the SC thread!

EDIT: Stork will probably win. Good call Chok

 

[unknownPresence]

lets say my prediction is wrong, what makes you think stork can beat flash.

 

[Alphicans]

He has better build orders. That's it.

 

[pockyD]

and idk, some pros think fbh is too much, Im surprised none of you find it disrespectful, funny or not.

of COURSE it's disrespectful. that's why it's entertaining

 

[Alphicans]

It's not even that disrespectful. He has the right to be happy, and can display his relief in any way he wants. If the loser wants to be sore about it, then that's their problem, not his.

 

[unknownPresence]

1. build orders dont decide the match, if it did i forget his name but i believe his nickname was the robot because his build orders were always by the book (Im probably wrong I'll look up the name later).

2.not disrespectful? i have a question have you ever seen pure pwnage, if not ill respond differently, but this is a pretty good comparison.

3. pocly cant argue with u thr it is entertaining.

4. alpha goliath not good enuff, got to switch to a ghost.

 

[Alphicans]

Ghosts are just way to much sexy

 

[unknownPresence]

who else is rooting for pepe, let me know.

 

[Alphicans]

I am. Like soooooooooo much you have no idea.

 

[unknownPresence]

pepe lost nnnnnnnnooooooooooooooooooo, i wanted him to go to the finals.

oh well bisu will beat flash. XDXDXDXDXD

amd stork, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

 

[Alphicans]

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!!!! How did Bisu win???? How were you right? How could this happen? Flash !

 

[peeup]

Hey... I've been playing starcraft (along with warcraft... which is my favorite of the two) but I've never been too good. Does anybody have any tips for a noob? I prefer Terran over zerg and prot, but zerg is fun too.

PS: I skipped from page one to this page so I just want to know... was an SWF SC clan ever made?

 

[Alphicans]

No clan was made that I am aware of. Tips? Depends what you wanna play :\. SC is too complex to explain to a total noob. Well not impossible to explain, but it's hard and would take a long time, more than one post, because you'd have to learn small things at a time, so learning "tips" would take a few months. Just go to teamliquid.net and learn some build orders, and the basics of SC.

 

[peeup]

Alright, then let me ask you a specific question that I have... it might be easier to answer a small question rather than explain entire strategies.

On the map Lost Temple, I like to barricade myself by blocking the ramp leading to my base with supply depots, a barracks, a few bunkers/missle silos/and siege tanks. This works well enough against computers, but would it work against humans?

Also, just a random afterthought... how useful are science vessels aside from being detectors? They seem fun to toy around with, but not entirely helpful.

 

[Alphicans]

Ok well for the wall in, don't make a bunker or a turret. Just two supply depots and a barracks, then get a factory then expand to your natural expansion.

Science vessels are supremely useful when vsing zerg. Also vs protoss against arbiters. I'd still suggest going to teamliquid.net if you're serious about getting better.

 

[unknownPresence]

HAHAHA, stork lost and bisu won, i told you bisu will win.

and peeup ya alphas right, no turret//bunker plus fac to expo.
hes also right about vessels they are a neccesity against zerg and toss late gmae.

and for working agaisnt humans, just play games ull improve ur overall game as well as ur build orders

 

[peeup]

tyvm guys, I'll definitely check out teamliquid. Also, (I did this to learn how to play brawl better) who are some expert players that I should know about (aside from stork and bisu... whoever they are)? ty for all the help.

 

[Alphicans]

For terran? Umm, the main ones are Flash, Mind, Hwasin, Firebathero, maybe boxer although his stuff is very old school, Fantasy. There are some pretty good euro players like raven for example. Any replays on gosugamers.net will probably help you no matter what. I wouldn't suggest watching VODz for watching players, because you can't see everything and you can't see their resource count or supply count, so downloading replays and transferring them directly to your replays folder in SC is what I would advise. Make sure when watching players you pay attention to building placement, supply count and resource levels. You will notice very significant things at first, but it may be hard to catch on to the minor things.

 

[unknownPresence]

firebathero, although i love his style of play, its very aggressive and proxies arent that good against toss if done anything short of perfectly.

and im different from aplha, i would recommend old school players like boxer, nada, july, rock, grrr, garimoto, and iloveoov. although they are hard to imitate, but they are very useful for learning.

 

[Mogwai]

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!!!! How did Bisu win???? How were you right? How could this happen? Flash !

Were you watching those games? I love Flash and he played marvelously, but Bisu is a fcuking monster. I was sceptical about him being the best player in the world going into that set, but I'm a believer now. Still gonna root against him, but I gotta respect how godd@mn nasty he is.

tyvm guys, I'll definitely check out teamliquid. Also, (I did this to learn how to play brawl better) who are some expert players that I should know about (aside from stork and bisu... whoever they are)? ty for all the help.

Iris/berserker is also good to watch and I'm a big fan of Lomo's playstyle when he's playing well (which doesn't seem to be too often recently). ForGG/NeVer from a few months ago is also worth watching. (In addition to the ones already listed. Frankly, for learning how to play tight standard Terran play, Mind is probably the guy to watch.)

Also, Sci Vessels can become useful in TvT if both players tech to BCs at the same time, though the way the matchup is being played over the past couple months, that doesn't seem to be happening much anymore.

 

[Diddyknight]

i play starcraft xXD

 

[unknownPresence]

lol diddyknight, had to throw that in thr.

i miss seeing pros go bc, it was so fun to watch them get destroyed or be destoryed, you get crazy either way. draco did a good job with carriers for a while, but you dont get the same feel as bc's