slisenberg
Smash Cadet
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Anyway, I know you haven't seen much of Zamus, but it seems clear to me, based on her -amazing- range with the whip and fast style of play, she'll be able to hit from afar and combo quite well.
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SSBB Demo Tier List
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Adi
Smash Lord
The tier list has no affect on your life or character choice so those who are complaining about please stop.
Lemon Drop
Smash Lord
So how long do people get to play Smash Bros. Brawl? How long? Do you guys get to sit in a room for 3 hours + ripping up SSBB, or do you get just a couple 2 minute rounds?
ToXn
Smash Journeyman
Of all characters in brawl, mario deserves to be the "highest"
I think its two minutes per match and then you have to get back in line of something....
As for the Tier list. Lighten up! Speculation is fun!
I'm a big Link fan so I'm saddened by his spikeless return...
Nice list.
Tagxy
Smash Lord
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Even if this is just a tier list for the demo, it's obvious that it's stupid because there's not enough knowledge on the characters to be able to pull this off. Even from what I've read about the different characters I know this isnt right because he doesnt mention half their improvements or disprovements and comes to the wrong conclusions.
Witchking_of_Angmar
Smash Lord
This Tier List is about the current knowledge of the characters, as are all tier lists. It is pretty correct, mostly because it's pretty rough.
Quit flaming T!mmy people.
Also, the characters are really close together, so it doesn't affect gameplay very much.
It's all fun and games until people start thinking it's actually true. I'm fine with the guy making a tier list of the demo, it's interesting to see his opinion, but I find it kind of annoying when people assume it's "pretty correct" and that certain characters (such as Ike) aren't that good due to it.
Witchking_of_Angmar
Smash Lord
It is correct. He even stated reasons. Read the whole thing and other people's impressions (like Gimpyfish's) and you'll see that it's pretty accurate. Also, it's T!mmy, so you can be sure that it's pretty good.
Also, it does not affect gameplay very much because ways to play characters are constantly being found. If I went to E 4 A and found an amazing strategy for Ike, he would rise. But so far, he pretty much sucks in 1v1.
Furthermore, these characters are all very close togther.
Tagxy
Smash Lord
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Yeah, I read the reasons and thought they were pretty stupid, but I guess to some stupid does equal accurate.
It's clear the current knowledge of characters borders idiotic and ********, so I have no idea why you would call such a thing accurate. Shoot, I don't even think the OP would call it accurate. I just read a ton of information about pikachu from festizio and other people who actually spent time playing him, and to say he's pretty much the same as melee is wrong. He didn't even know that he could still tailspike.
It's clear the current knowledge of characters borders idiotic and ********, so I have no idea why you would call such a thing accurate. Shoot, I don't even think the OP would call it accurate. I just read a ton of information about pikachu from festizio and other people who actually spent time playing him, and to say he's pretty much the same as melee is wrong. He didn't even know that he could still tailspike.
First, the title says it's an SSBB DEMO tier list.
Second, as much as I would like to take credit for the information in this thread, most of it comes from other players like Festizzio, Straight, Neal, Gimpyfish, t0mmy, Eternal Phoenix Fire, et al. I "mained" Meta Knight as such is my contribution.
Third, if you like Ike, please don't act like a geeky fanboy as some posts in here are worst than Roy fanboyism. Just because all the good smashers agree Ike is obviously low on the tier list doesn't mean I'm personally attacking you. Until we find out what he's good at besides spamming smash attacks in Free For All, he will remain low.
Fourth, I never said we knew everything. Quite the contrary, I emphasize how very little is known. However, I felt having a ranking of characters based on what is known and by knowledgeable Smashers would be better than leaving everyone in the dark.
With that, please don't post if you have nothing constructive to add. Thanks.
Second, as much as I would like to take credit for the information in this thread, most of it comes from other players like Festizzio, Straight, Neal, Gimpyfish, t0mmy, Eternal Phoenix Fire, et al. I "mained" Meta Knight as such is my contribution.
Third, if you like Ike, please don't act like a geeky fanboy as some posts in here are worst than Roy fanboyism. Just because all the good smashers agree Ike is obviously low on the tier list doesn't mean I'm personally attacking you. Until we find out what he's good at besides spamming smash attacks in Free For All, he will remain low.
Fourth, I never said we knew everything. Quite the contrary, I emphasize how very little is known. However, I felt having a ranking of characters based on what is known and by knowledgeable Smashers would be better than leaving everyone in the dark.
With that, please don't post if you have nothing constructive to add. Thanks.
Chi's Finest
Smash Lord
~Plans to turn Pit into Top tier for Brawl~
Or Geno, is that son of a ***** is in it.
Or Geno, is that son of a ***** is in it.
K1T3
Smash Lord
Good list, thanks, I was curious how the characters stacked up so far at least. Yeah I know it may change a little for the actual game but it's nice to see what the people who went thought of the characters that were playable.
Don't we want as much brawl info as we can get, including about how good the characters are at this point.
Don't we want as much brawl info as we can get, including about how good the characters are at this point.
Psychoace
Smash Champion
Now now mr. troll I'd like to see you make a better one.
Eternal phoenix Fire
Smash Hero
What is so difficult about making an accurate observation on a 'possible' tier list? If we were bored we wouldn't make this list, because it is in our best interest to inform other players of current Smash Bros. information. Why do you find it hard to believe that we cannot dedicate time to what we are doing because we have no other activities to do? It's nothing serious, it's simple observation.
But, you were simply being too much of a bitch to understand.
err
Smash Journeyman
Im going to first propose this here, with perhaps a stronger message to follow perhaps right after we all get situated with a final build.
I saw someone on page 2 mention that he didn't find t!mmy's evaluations valid, simply because t!mmy lacked B'roomer status.
i'll pretend he was joking. it makes sense that he was joking. god i hope it was just him joking.
because if 10,000 freakin members just sit aside and let MELEE backroomers decide the fate of our community, i'll be shocked. This is the time, if ever, where we could see a shift in power within the community.
NO. im not saying "omfg brawl is a new game and ken and isai sucks and i can beat hugo" (isai don't kill me)
--good smashers will always be good smashers. perhaps the path to perfection in this game will be easier for those of us that have really gotten good in the last 2-3 years, seeing as we don't know if L-cancelling will return, and that's likely what most ppl in that cohort have to worry about more than anything else ( missed L-Cancels are the bane of the average-smashboarder's existence, oh and spacing geez who couldn't use more of that?)
NO im not neccessarily stating that the power within the smash community is held by any particular persons/factions/etc.
only a ******* would state that. This community is divided regionally, locally, etc. Hell I live in georgia and am the best smasher in a 30 mile radius and I get ***** at state tournaments. Florida would sht on my face in this game, and when i started playing, Florida sucked (tipman FTW).
BUT I do feel like there is some sense of power invested in those that are winning tournaments. And while that's great that people have champions to look up to, do you really want the same people who are sweeping tournaments now to be the ONLY people creating tournaments for Brawl?>
anyway i'll be ****ed if this community is NOT shaped by collective action and popular consensus. Chillindude829 and ChuDat and Manacloud won't determine the future of Smash. I guess its as easy as the fact that if you don't like how a tournament will be run, don't go. form your own tourney, convince people to not attend theirs, etc.
We don't need to be celebrity-centric. **** the backroom. yes im bitter! I want to read some intelligent discussion from time to time, and its entirely private? This isn't a free internet, and I respect the fact that the powers that pay are those that can organize their site however they wish, so i wont ***** on that. but the melee general board is svamped with the same crap same crap same crap same crap every **** hour! it'd be nice to know there's a light at the end of the tunnel
but really. this community is going to get *ing huge. We need structure, but I don't believe that we need to just throw ourselves at Melee's Power Ranking Members to guide the way. It's your community. You think Final Smashes should be allowed? Make tournaments. Keep items on, and throw a melee tournament at the same venue to guarantee some attendance. Then you can test items out in Brawl. It's really next summer or never, peeps. Melee gamers are going to want to let go (if they haven't already); hell I'm a nobody -- I just like combo-ing people -- and I've got bigger sht to do in my life right now (university, robotics, film&television), so naturally there will be prominent members of the Smash community who just don't want to keep paddling. Let them go, and move on. Many are used to that already.
Oh and Nealdt fVking rocks. I love your site and don't care if I'm contradicting myself when I state that you need to keep your shtuff goin. I like what you do, my friend. keep at it.
but seriously, people ***** about Manacloud all the time: Make your own Brawl scene. Make him come to your tournaments and buy $40 t-shirts and then ... [this is already turning to flame and I didn't even want to flame this guy. **** Mike you got a way about you, online]
We're going to all have to do some experimenting with Brawl. next summer is going to be something wonderful, though. I imagine tournaments every **** weekend across the nation, different rule-variations for many of them, certain levels banned/not banned, perhaps competitors in a set will get to strike two stages each and we can just leave more levels available for random. OR if there is ONE or TWO SPECIFIC character that is/are just TOO BROKEN for an otherwise neutral stage, BAN said character from being used on that stage! Then learn a secondary character for the level, and get better! Dave's Stupid Rule will likely remain, so say MetaKnight is wicked broken on Yoshi's Story. We ban use of MetaKnight from that level, and you can only play that stage once per set (you can't just dicck your opponent's main for an entire set)
well this is entering the realm of the theoretical so i think i should stop. god I hope someone reads this post
I saw someone on page 2 mention that he didn't find t!mmy's evaluations valid, simply because t!mmy lacked B'roomer status.
i'll pretend he was joking. it makes sense that he was joking. god i hope it was just him joking.
because if 10,000 freakin members just sit aside and let MELEE backroomers decide the fate of our community, i'll be shocked. This is the time, if ever, where we could see a shift in power within the community.
NO. im not saying "omfg brawl is a new game and ken and isai sucks and i can beat hugo" (isai don't kill me)
--good smashers will always be good smashers. perhaps the path to perfection in this game will be easier for those of us that have really gotten good in the last 2-3 years, seeing as we don't know if L-cancelling will return, and that's likely what most ppl in that cohort have to worry about more than anything else ( missed L-Cancels are the bane of the average-smashboarder's existence, oh and spacing geez who couldn't use more of that?)
NO im not neccessarily stating that the power within the smash community is held by any particular persons/factions/etc.
only a ******* would state that. This community is divided regionally, locally, etc. Hell I live in georgia and am the best smasher in a 30 mile radius and I get ***** at state tournaments. Florida would sht on my face in this game, and when i started playing, Florida sucked (tipman FTW).
BUT I do feel like there is some sense of power invested in those that are winning tournaments. And while that's great that people have champions to look up to, do you really want the same people who are sweeping tournaments now to be the ONLY people creating tournaments for Brawl?>
anyway i'll be ****ed if this community is NOT shaped by collective action and popular consensus. Chillindude829 and ChuDat and Manacloud won't determine the future of Smash. I guess its as easy as the fact that if you don't like how a tournament will be run, don't go. form your own tourney, convince people to not attend theirs, etc.
We don't need to be celebrity-centric. **** the backroom. yes im bitter! I want to read some intelligent discussion from time to time, and its entirely private? This isn't a free internet, and I respect the fact that the powers that pay are those that can organize their site however they wish, so i wont ***** on that. but the melee general board is svamped with the same crap same crap same crap same crap every **** hour! it'd be nice to know there's a light at the end of the tunnel
but really. this community is going to get *ing huge. We need structure, but I don't believe that we need to just throw ourselves at Melee's Power Ranking Members to guide the way. It's your community. You think Final Smashes should be allowed? Make tournaments. Keep items on, and throw a melee tournament at the same venue to guarantee some attendance. Then you can test items out in Brawl. It's really next summer or never, peeps. Melee gamers are going to want to let go (if they haven't already); hell I'm a nobody -- I just like combo-ing people -- and I've got bigger sht to do in my life right now (university, robotics, film&television), so naturally there will be prominent members of the Smash community who just don't want to keep paddling. Let them go, and move on. Many are used to that already.
Oh and Nealdt fVking rocks. I love your site and don't care if I'm contradicting myself when I state that you need to keep your shtuff goin. I like what you do, my friend. keep at it.
but seriously, people ***** about Manacloud all the time: Make your own Brawl scene. Make him come to your tournaments and buy $40 t-shirts and then ... [this is already turning to flame and I didn't even want to flame this guy. **** Mike you got a way about you, online]
We're going to all have to do some experimenting with Brawl. next summer is going to be something wonderful, though. I imagine tournaments every **** weekend across the nation, different rule-variations for many of them, certain levels banned/not banned, perhaps competitors in a set will get to strike two stages each and we can just leave more levels available for random. OR if there is ONE or TWO SPECIFIC character
well this is entering the realm of the theoretical so i think i should stop. god I hope someone reads this post
This is stupid.
1. We haven't had any large scale tournaments with large enough numbers to base any posible tier lists on.
2. We haven't had enough time with the demo to work out who can beat what with what (IE Falco was originally top of top just because he could spam lasers)
3. There's pleanty of topics already discussing E for all and so on.
4. This room is really getting stupid.
1. We haven't had any large scale tournaments with large enough numbers to base any posible tier lists on.
2. We haven't had enough time with the demo to work out who can beat what with what (IE Falco was originally top of top just because he could spam lasers)
3. There's pleanty of topics already discussing E for all and so on.
4. This room is really getting stupid.
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