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Unless online has host rooms and individual item setup (which was implied to be different from how it was in Brawl), I'm not buying it, because that's not how it sounded in the direct.
There is nothing debunking this rumor.
No. Sal has the most credibility of any leaker, predicting 4 characters directly(megaman,villager,WFT,little mac), one of which being the unguessable wii fit trainer and now vaguely but still correctly predicting Greninja hours before the direct happened when if he was some faker adding MORE characters was boldly risking his credibility RIGHT before we were about to get a lot of info that could disprove him.
Sal's tipper has already said that Pac-Man and Mii are "on there way". He's acknowledged that his information was not fully accurate, but he's still keen on the fact that Mii's and Pac-Man are still playable. He hasn't backtracked at all what he's said. I wouldn't call it debunked just yet. This leak is different from other leaks, and should be treated as such.
My guess is that we will find out if this leak is true or make next month when a new Newcomer is annouced
We don't actually know that for sure. Unless PortraitofRuin actually acknowledged it, or the guy even acknowledged his source as PoR (which I doubt) then I have no reason to give it the time of day.
My point was less that the vagueness of Sal's second leak was damaging, and more that the second leak isn't especially remarkable on its own merits. I acknowledge that this point probably doesn't mean much, but again, devil's advocate. I'm not quite ready yet to submit to our new Rhythm Heaven overlords, so I'll continue advocating, at least for a bit. :bafter the E3 leak sal said he got his info from another source he left anonymous.
the E3 leak got a lot of hate for saying it's six characters would be revealed at E3 and only 3 were shown there but since the info is second hand its possible sals source told him everyone he saw at E3 behind the scenes, and sal leaked them assuming they would all get revealed OR his source saw them and assumed they'd get revealed and told sal they would.
its very possible that this time sals friend told him more characters and then said something like "a pokemon from x and y, just watch the direct" or something... OR its equally possible sal's source knew/saw it was greninja but didnt know the pokemon by name since many people do not know the new pokemon very well...there is 700+ at this point.
basically what im saying is that although sal was vague this time, his credibility has added up so much that i think scenarios like the ones i've described are likely.
Like what?
Where? I wouldn't be surprised. Look at the 300+ extra pictures.
See, if there was no one on the roster I wanted, I'd be devil's advocating it too. As it stands though, since it doesn't disconfirm K. Rool and he hasn't been put in the dust yet, and more or less acknowledges Shulk and Palutena, I have nothing to lose, so I'm at the point where I'm just waiting for it.
That's what for fun is. Were you not listening during the direct and just looking for characters? Come on people.
Now I'm really starting to think it's true. Sad for Ridley fans.
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Nightmare.
That does certainly make sense. I really doubt those leakers are as well connected this time around. ChaosZero even said he wasn't.
They were different, they just accused her of stealing from other leakers. ChoasZero was worshiped at the end of the Brawl season, she was STILL treated like crap.
Wait, I thought she did know something? Hence the "no Ridley, no K. Rool" leak. Man I'm confused, LOL.Though if PoR knows nothing and before it was due to Konami, I think that's another nail in a certain mercenary's Smash coffin.
The person who made that leak said they got it "from somebody who leaked stuff back in the Brawl days" It's on the front page, and is probably fake, and either way is not confirmed to be PoR in any way. Initially, we thought it was ChaosZero, but upon asking him, he basically said it wasn't him and he doesn't get Smash info anymore. So the next thing we all jumped to was PoR, but this is still unconfirmed and like I said, probably a hoax.
What makes his story sound fake to you? If anything, it sounds more like how ChaosZero got his information as he actually knew someone working on the game. Even though he knew someone, he didn't have that much information except for a character who was not returning, and a newcomer.
That leak was from an unreliable source and probably fake. The pure Sal leak is what we have to go on right now.
No it didn't - they can't get in trouble for saying who's not in the game and were refused an answer about Little Mac. It's fake because it doesn't give you the characters you want? This is just laughable now.
The source isn't completely unreliable. Suspicious still, but he's an ex admin/staff member and a site helper on a website that's basically the equivalent of this but for Mario Kart. Anyways, it's not like people didn't see a 40-50 character roster coming.
What was he wrong about again? In terms of Mario Kart?
Man, you really hate this Sal leak, and the Sal leak from before. It's okay man, you'll learn to love the Chorus men in time.
Just because a wide net was cast doesn't mean it doesn't have a chance or isn't "credible." He's one of the most accurate so far. Whether you think it's an easy prediction or knowledge of the game, that's for you to interpret. I don't know how you can say it isn't credible, when really all leaks are just from seemingly random people anyway (PoR was pretty random too, and wasn't considered credible).
I just don't like how people are apparently throwing skepticism to the wind for such a vague prediction. Like I've said, I find the E3 prediction to have a good deal of credibility. It's the only credible leak so far. "Pokemon from X&Y", on the other hand, is laughably vague.
The return of indrifting. Though at the moment, it's completely debatable. He stated that indrifting would return, but would be tweaked/changed. Gameplay has shown this to be true, as indrifting in MK8 looks more like a hybrid of outward drifting and indrifting. Personally, that is enough to be called a tweak/change to indrifting; he is correct so far.
Your stance is being interpreted as "his leak is awful because of the Pokemon X/Y prediction," when in reality, I think what you're saying is that the Direct doesn't add to his leak at all.
One instance of something isn't a pattern. I ate a tuna sandwich for lunch last Thursday, doesn't mean I'll eat one every Thursday. Now, if you see me eat one this Thursday, you can make a case that a pattern is emerging (although it still wouldn't be a pattern.) There is no Fire Emblem pattern.
Jeez, it was just speculation/observation. No need to be like this about it.
