SSB4 Rumours and Leaks

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

I guess we spoke too soon. http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/633202-super-smash-bros-for-wii-u/68863347

Spoiler

Hello guys, I managed to get some information from a friend that has a familiar working on Nintendo and the next information is what I got:
*There will be an major Nintendo Direct coming on April and, as expected, a character will be revealed for the next Super Smash Bros., my friend told me that the specific character will be from the Fire Emblem series and who can this character be? If you all guessed on Chrom you were absolutely wrong...!! No, just kidding, Chrom will be announced as the new Fire Emblem this April.
*Second, Pac-Man was the character selected from Namco Bandai to be playable since all his back story he has with Nintendo. One of his special moves will be the Pac-Dive, and his final smash will be to transform all the players into ghosts and the only thing they can do it's run, Sakurai did this because it was a reference to the retro game.
*Sakurai wants to include the two most popular recently characters. Who are they? Most likely it will be Shulk (Xenoblade) and Dillon (Dillon's Rolling Western) since the popularity they both have with such great games. Plus, they have stages on both versions.
*Stages that will get on both versions are: Wild West (Dillon's home stage), Prison Island (Shulk home stage), a Pac-Man based stage, Ice Climbers' home stage (Not the same as Brawl), and Final Destination.
*Lor Starcutter (Kirby) is only available on the Wii U version.
*Pushmo Park is an stage on the 3DS version and features Mallo on it.
*Not every assist trophy from Brawl will return.
*Xerneas who was revealed on October is an Pokeball Pokemon.
*The music heard in the first trailer is the main theme of the Main Menu and Battlefield.
*Meta Knight and Yoshi will be revealed on May 2 and Summer 2014 respectively.
*Wario, Ganondorf, Ness, and Captain Falcon return.
*Ike, Lucas, Wolf, R.O.B., and Snake doesn't return.
*Pkmn Trainer is reworked with a new set of Pokemon, and now it's named Pkmn Trainer 2.
That's all the information my friend got. An opinion of mine is that Chrom will be revealed on the 20th of April. See ya guys and I hope this is true cause I agree with most of the leak!

We have gone over this so many times

It was going good until I saw the part of pokemon trainer 2

And R.O.B being kicked (too much support and history and he got in the same way marth and ness got in the series)

 

[KaBlamJamDan]

This too. This is a little more tame I guess? http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/633202-super-smash-bros-for-wii-u/68864615

Spoiler

Smash Bros for Wii U/3DS
Some newcomers:
Toon Zelda
Palutena
Dixie Kong
Ridley
Fire Emblem Newcomer
Pacman
Mewtwo
Pokemon Trainer
Mario Newcomer
Zelda Newcomer
Sonic Newcomer

Alternate costumes will appear
Yoshi has been altered
Ganondorf has been altered
Falco has been altered

>Sonic Newcomer

Sorry but I can't imagine Sega getting ANOTHER character in.

 

[Z25]

These new leaks are so bland. Also sega getting a second rep is not impossible as I have made numerous points as to why this is possible.

 

[KaBlamJamDan]

Sega already have a character, a stage, trophies, music, and probably a asset trophy.

If they try to add more Sonic characters; people will be complaining about "Where Protoman/Bass/Zero etc!".

 

[EmceeEspio]

http://www.p4rgaming.com/masahiro-s...to-smash-bros-i-delay-the-release-by-one-day/ Ima just drop this here, It is an interview with sakurai that my or may not drop hints

Satirical Humor site dedicated to posting ridiculous things. Next.

Tails leaked?View attachment 10788

..... That's.... That's sad.

 

[Luigi player]

Sega already have a character, a stage, trophies, music, and probably a asset trophy.

If they try to add more Sonic characters; people will be complaining about "Where Protoman/Bass/Zero etc!".

then again... people will always have something to complain about.
and sonic already was in a smash game. and probably has a lot more recent games on nintendo consoles.
i woundt say its impossible for another sega/sonic rep to join. though its obviously unlikely.

its kinda funny though... people always complain about "leaked" rosters being bland and predictable, but when something unusual is there they go all "lul diz would nevr happn"/"obv fake" and stuff like that (not talking about everyone obviously, but some are like that).

 

[Aurora Jenny]

Sega already have a character, a stage, trophies, music, and probably a asset trophy.

If they try to add more Sonic characters; people will be complaining about "Where Protoman/Bass/Zero etc!".

The thing about it is, returning third-party franchises would and could be eligible for expansion. Not likely, but certainly not outside possibilty.

As for the rumors, the latest batch just doesn't seem right. At least this one didn't try to explain, just dumped and ran.

 

[Cold Fusion]

Dare I ask, why is it that you guys immediately dismiss any leak that mentions a second sonic rep?

 

[KaBlamJamDan]

Dare I ask, why is it that you guys immediately dismiss any leak that mentions a second sonic rep?

Because Sonicism.

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

Dare I ask, why is it that you guys immediately dismiss any leak that mentions a second sonic rep?

Because Sakurai said that he wouldn't just add any 3rd party character, which most Sonic characters fall under, and the fact that he's also gone on record saying that too many third parties makes the game lose focus in terms of being a Nintendo All-Star game.

At least, those are MY reasons.

 

[Banjodorf]

First of all, this isn't the place to ask people why they don't want more Sonic characters.

Secondly, any roster that has one, or is as ambiguous as the one being discussed, is fake, and should be ignored.

Now on the OTHER hand, that generic list roster before the ambiguous one is incredible. I'd do almost anything to have that roster. It's just so perfect...

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

The only problem I have with that list is the addition of Mii, but mostly due to personal preferences. I'd honestly rather have Isaac.

That said, with Palutena on the roster, as well as a leak that finally doesn't cut ROB, I'd be okay with it and would eventually get over it.

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

Dare I ask, why is it that you guys immediately dismiss any leak that mentions a second sonic rep?

Because they just never learn

 

[APC99]

Can't wait to see Palutena, Pac-Man and Mii. Just to confirm those leaks.

Oh, and some random character like Donbe/Hikari or Waddle Dee to disconfirm all of the fake ones.

 

[Banjodorf]

The only problem I have with that list is the addition of Mii, but mostly due to personal preferences. I'd honestly rather have Isaac.

That said, with Palutena on the roster, as well as a leak that finally doesn't cut ROB, I'd be okay with it and would eventually get over it.

I've pretty much accepted them on rosters, I'm still neutral on them, but with so much pointing at them in some way, them being on leaks or being possible doesn't surprise me.

I'm perfectly happy with any leak that has Palutena and Takamaru and Shulk on it at this point, and even just those first two is something I can live with. K. Rool and Ridley just make it better.

 

[Extrain]

I really want Palutena to be revealed to just so I can finally stop holding my breath. It won't do much for leaks though, every single roster leak has her on it. On the other hand, she might be the Krystal of this era, and might not actually be playable in contrast to almost every leak having her on it. Though only .1% of the leaks we see end up being true anyways.

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

Because Sakurai said that he wouldn't just add any 3rd party character, which most Sonic characters fall under, and the fact that he's also gone on record saying that too many third parties makes the game lose focus in terms of being a Nintendo All-Star game.

At least, those are MY reasons.

Well, we could have another Sonic character, JUST ONE OTHER mind you.

 

[swordbreaker]

Because they just never learn

If dismissing a leak under those circumstances makes one unlearned, how much more so is one unlearned who believes a franchise is as relevant as it was 15-20 years ago. With marketing goals towards an age group so young they can't tell the difference between garbage and cuisine.

 

[Banjodorf]

Well, we could have another Sonic character, JUST ONE OTHER mind you.

Keep in mind that Sakurai takes every character added very seriously,especially third party characters.

I highly doubt any legitimacy to any roster leak with another Sonic character in it because of this, especially when adding another would mean giving preferential treatment to one company over the other 2 already working on the game.

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

Keep in mind that Sakurai takes every character added very seriously,especially third party characters.

I highly doubt any legitimacy to any roster leak with another Sonic character in it because of this, especially when adding another would mean giving preferential treatment to one company over the other 2 already working on the game.

Fine, but remember, never say never!

 

[Substitution]

Well, we could have another Sonic character, JUST ONE OTHER mind you.

Say, if I were to ask.
Where'd you get the "leak" from?

 

[BADGRAPHICS]

Well, we could have another Sonic character, JUST ONE OTHER mind you.

Seriously, man. I like Sonic as much as the next guy (well, maybe not as much as you) and wouldn't mind Tails being playable I guess, but this is a Nintendo game. Another Sonic character is just incredibly unlikely.

EDIT:

To make this post more on-topic, I'll add a little observation. Almost every "leak" has the roster between 45-50 characters. Back before Brawl was released most false leaks had the roster at around this number as well. It seems to me that this is kind of an "ideal" number for most people.

Seven years ago, I thought that number was a crazy unrealistic overestimation; now I think it's more attainable, but I'll still be pretty surprised if it gets that high. Nice to see the Smash community has learned to reign in its expectations somewhat.

I will add that Geno is never getting in, though. Let it go, guys; he's not even that good a character.

 

[N. Onymous]

"Nintendo All-Stars Dairantou Smash Bros.", dude.

 

[Tree Gelbman]

Do recall people that Sega more so than Capcom is a HUGE part of Nintendo's history. First as a rival and second as a partner in crime.

Tails, Knuckles, and Robotnik are as recognizable of video game characters as Luigi, Peach, and Bowser. There's nothing to say that Sakurai wouldn't view them as special cases of video game and as such Nintendo history.

 

[swordbreaker]

Do recall people that Sega more so than Capcom is a HUGE part of Nintendo's history. First as a rival and second as a partner in crime.

Tails, Knuckles, and Robotnik are as recognizable of video game characters as Luigi, Peach, and Bowser. There's nothing to say that Sakurai wouldn't view them as special cases of video game and as such Nintendo history.

 

[BADGRAPHICS]

"Oh yeah" using Jennifer Lawrence's face

Just what we need, more gif posts. Nice job, generic-forum-guy.

I know this is borderline flaming, but come on. Don't do that.

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

As much as I like Sonic (which is actually more than I let on to most people), I don't think Tails, Knuckles, or Robotnik/Eggman should be added over third parties that could potentially come from other developers, leading to increased diversity instead of three Sonic characters spindashing around.

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

Sarcasm? Rosalina's right you know!

 

[KaBlamJamDan]

Random gif posts that add nothing to the discussion is always my favorite.

 

[MrPanic]

So people are still dismissing rosters without any factual reasoning?

Man, the salt is gonna run so deep when Tails, Krystal and Goku are confirmed that smashboards might never recover.

 

[swordbreaker]

Sarcasm? Rosalina's right you know!

Not really, this isn't a game about Sega, it's a game about Nintendo with a Sega guest character. Metal Gear got the same treatment as Sonic in Smash. An assist trophy and some stage cameos. Sakurai sees no need to give them special treatment. I bet the people making these leaks and believe this stuff are the same people who think Sega is secretly working on a new console to come in and win the console race...

 

[KaBlamJamDan]

So people are still dismissing rosters without any factual reasoning?

Man, the salt is gonna run so deep when Tails, Krystal and Goku are confirmed that smashboards might never recover.

You forgot Steve.

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

You forgot Steve.

Nah, man, it's all about the Creepers.

 

[KaBlamJamDan]

So some smashboard user who design the website for SSB4 made a topic: http://smashboards.com/threads/hello-ive-been-designing-the-official-ssb-site-for-nintendo.350838/

I doubt it legit though.

EDIT: Seriously? People is actually believing this crap?

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

So some smashboard user who design the website for SSB4 made a topic: http://smashboards.com/threads/hello-ive-been-designing-the-official-ssb-site-for-nintendo.350838/

I doubt it legit though.

The Characters link Mario. Look at that bad cropping on the hat. Painful, almost.

I doubt it's real.

 

[Extrain]

So some smashboard user who design the website for SSB4 made a topic: http://smashboards.com/threads/hello-ive-been-designing-the-official-ssb-site-for-nintendo.350838/

I doubt it legit though.

Doesn't seem believable.The editing looks very amateur and his story doesn't make much sense.

 

[SkywardStriker16]

Doesn't seem believable.The editing looks very amateur and his story doesn't make much sense.

I agree whole-heartedly. The whole thing looks like a ton of BS dumped on top of another load of BS dumped on top of Giant Jigglypuff from Brawl. Ugh.

The website really does need an overhaul though.

 

[Sehnsucht]

Not really, this isn't a game about Sega, it's a game about Nintendo with a Sega guest character. Metal Gear got the same treatment as Sonic in Smash. An assist trophy and some stage cameos. Sakurai sees no need to give them special treatment. I bet the people making these leaks and believe this stuff are the same people who think Sega is secretly working on a new console to come in and win the console race...

This aptly encapsulates my general thoughts on the matter. Sonic, Mega Man, and Snake are/were guests in a Nintendo-centric game. Sonic, like those others, has been graciously invited to the Smash series; he's a bonus, icing on the cake, and is thus not actually essential, even though the Sonic franchise is huge outside of Smash and Nintendo and has loads of characters to choose from.

As a result of this, Sakurai is no more obligated to include, say, Tails, than he is to include Zero or Raiden -- even if Sega has a closer relationship and/or history to Nintendo. The Sonic series in Smash is not under-represented just because Knuckles isn't playable -- and this, because any Sonic material in Smash is a bonus to begin with. We're in no way entitled to further Sonic characters anymore than we are for Mega Man/MGS/etc. characters.

And the issue of favoritism is very present. Why not diversify things and go for another company? Or if you have to go with Sega, why another character from the Sonic franchise, and not one from a different series (e.g. Nights)?

As a result of this, I fail to see second Sonic characters as being at all probable for Smash 4. Maybe in a future Smash iteration, but certainly not this one.

And by extension, leaks that do have Tail/Knuckles/Eggman/Chao lack credibility, since they implicitly assume that Third-Party characters and their franchises are considered and viewed by Sakurai the same way that Nintendo characters and their franchises are (i.e. including the core and essential characters from a given franchise, which covers main protagonists, supporting cast, central antagonists, etc.).

Also, Big the Cat for SSB5

 

[kataridragon]

Not really, this isn't a game about Sega, it's a game about Nintendo with a Sega guest character. Metal Gear got the same treatment as Sonic in Smash. An assist trophy and some stage cameos. Sakurai sees no need to give them special treatment. I bet the people making these leaks and believe this stuff are the same people who think Sega is secretly working on a new console to come in and win the console race...

You just made me kinda want pacman just for his stage. His stage would be so cool! If it was all neon and black. Kind of a generic stage with a a couple of neon platforms. Ghosts would pop in and run around and food would randomly appear in the middle to aid players.

I think it would be neat.

 

[Arcadenik]

Can't wait to see Palutena, Pac-Man and Mii. Just to confirm those leaks.

Oh, and some random character like Donbe/Hikari or Waddle Dee to disconfirm all of the fake ones.

Wish it got Duck Hunt Dog to deconfirm those fake leaks.