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That's because there is no real release date. The arcade machines were just kinda released as soon as the arcades received them so there is no universal release date.

Don't apologize though. You didn't do anything wrong...

AM I THAT INTIMIDATING!?!?!

The snark changed how people view me...

Oh no....


Still, release date talk is starting to drift away from leaks.
To be fair, we're afraid of most mods. It's just how we are...

how early does the banner normally go down before a reveal?
Depends.
Generally it lasts for a couple weeks.
Though I think it came down a little early this time around...
 

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There are so many possibilites this month. Hoping for Palutena or Mewtwo.

Which reminds me, are there any intact leaks that say anything regarding specific characters in March?
 

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Found this while looking for leaks, I've never seen this one discussed.
So first off Saki is both a playable fighter and an Assist according to this?

Second As much as I love Advance Wars. NO ADVANCE WARS ANYTHING WILL EVER BE REPRESENTED AS A PLAYABLE FIGHTER -___-
We should just be happy it got enough love for an Assist Trophy. The franchise is just way too niche in both america and japan. I am just being really honest about this. And I love advance wars too :/.

And I am starting to disbelieve any rumor that has Ghirahim as newcomer. Remember all those rumors that Zant would be in brawl... NOPE! We are fine with Zelda Characters. There is no reason at all to add anymore. Lets focus on other franchises please.

And one again I will not believe anything that has a Mii as a fighter. No just no.

Sorry for coming off so sour but rumors every week just get more and more annoying -_-
 

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Ghirahim isn't Zant, and whenever you like it or not, Zelda is very likely to get a new rep (just like Mario did). ^^ Plus, at least we have already gotten 4 new Franchise reps, which is pretty good.

But yeah, that rumor has been confirmed fake already.
 

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The banner has gone down, any rumors that said a character will be revealed this week or next?
We got yoshi for next week for new yoshi island usa release (very good chance due to no japan release date and if there is a japan set yoshi island is a bundle for the 3ds)

And the week after is pokemon battle trozei (very unlikely but its point out due to being a pokemon game the unlikely part is thats a eshop game)
 

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Yoshi on March 14th (friday) is the only one I know of.

A few rumors state that he will:
a - carry baby mario
b - be made of yarn
c - have a new move(set)

But I expect for him to stay the same, minus graphical updates.
If a Yarn Yoshi (Or even a Yarn Kirby) happened to be in SSB4 would it be safe to say most if not all of the leaks would be shot down?
 

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Prease understandu. My name is Masterhero Samurai and todai I show you newcomers for Smash Brothers. Newcomer are : Rosetta, Little Mac, Villager, Rockman, Wii Fit Trainer, Takawakaflakamaru-kun, Palutena, Saki, Wonder Red(lowest priority), Prince Sable, Mewtwo(not new but new at same time amirite), and Sukapon.

Prease understandu. My name is Masterhero Samurai and todai I show you newcomers for Smash Brothers. Newcomer are : Rosetta, Little Mac, Villager, Rockman, Wii Fit Trainer, Takawakaflakamaru-kun, Palutena, Saki, Wonder Red(lowest priority), Prince Sable, Mewtwo(not new but new at same time amirite), and Sukapon.
Masterhero Samurai backu again and prease understandu. I forgeted to list Robin/MyAvatar. Have nice day and smash many brothers!
 
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We got yoshi for next week for new yoshi island usa release (very good chance due to no japan release date and if there is a japan set yoshi island is a bundle for the 3ds)

And the week after is pokemon battle trozei (very unlikely but its point out due to being a pokemon game the unlikely part is thats a eshop game)
Maybe we might get Yoshi and a new Yoshi stage (Yoshi's New Island), a new Pokemon stage (Pokemon Battle Trozei), and Wario (Game & Wario anniversary) this month.
 

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Found this while looking for leaks, I've never seen this one discussed.
As much as I'd like that to be true, it's very unlikely. Ghirahim and the promotion of all those ATs are very unlikely, as is an AW rep.

He seems to have correctly predicted Mother Brain at least, which is interesting. I kinda doubt we'd get just 7 new ATs if so many get promoted, though. Also, his line about the difficulty of implementing Ice Climbers is taken straight from Sakurai's E3 interviews, more or less.

Not the most ridiculous leak, but definitely not very plausible.

Never mind, looks like it was edited? That figures haha.
 
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This was posted before Rosalina's reveal, but it comes across as photoshopped, thanks to that convenient listing off of the Assist Trophies in the order the first three were revealed. I'd not mind it being true, of course, but yeah.

Also, even more tellingly, this mentions the Palutena leak, and yet allegedly takes place on a date before that leak even happened. Add it to the scrap heap with the rest of them.
I was thinking the same thing... I was trying to reconcile the timeline in my mind... January 2014 was when Palutena leak happened... and this picture shows a time stamp that it was posted on December 2013 and it mentioned Palutena leak BEFORE it occurred.

Oh, and it also failed to include Mega Man in the list and it has the four other confirmed newcomers.
 
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I would be surprised to see a playable advanced wars character. They don't have any kind of actions what so ever to build off of.

Girahim isn't really that big if a character he is in one game. I think 4 zelda reps is already pretty good. Girahim just isn't that important of a character in my eyes.

I could see everyone else making it though.
 

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I would be surprised to see a playable advanced wars character. They don't have any kind of actions what so ever to build off of.
Yeah, because Captain Falcon was a pretty viable fighting character before smash 64. A game based around war with hundreds of weapons is too hard to make a moveset from.

Use better reasons from now on
 

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Yeah, because Captain Falcon was a pretty viable fighting character before smash 64. A game based around war with hundreds of weapons is too hard to make a moveset from.

Use better reasons from now on
To be fair, F-Zero has explosions. And some of C. Falcon's moves have explosions.
 

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I would be surprised to see a playable advanced wars character. They don't have any kind of actions what so ever to build off of.

Girahim isn't really that big if a character he is in one game. I think 4 zelda reps is already pretty good. Girahim just isn't that important of a character in my eyes.

I could see everyone else making it though.
While Ghirahim isn't that importent, I could see Sakurai/Nintendo wanting some major Skyward Sword rep for the new Smash. And Ghirahim and Impa (and Demise) are the only likely ones. And I reeeeally want Ghirahim. D:

I just know that, since so many rumors says he's in, he won't be in. Rats.
 

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The banner has gone down, any rumors that said a character will be revealed this week or next?
Don't get too excited about the Challenger Approaching banner going down. I still remember firmly that after Sonic the Hedgehog was revealed, everyone was sure that meant something... turned out we wouldn't get ANY character announced until the random Marth reveal in November... not even on the release of Pokemon X and Y, which to many people seemed like the perfect date for a reveal.
 

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It makes me really sad that every single "leak" with an awesome roster that includes all of my favorite characters always forgets Takamaru, so they're always automatically dismissible.
 

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Yeah, because Captain Falcon was a pretty viable fighting character before smash 64. A game based around war with hundreds of weapons is too hard to make a moveset from.

Use better reasons from now on
"Is too hard to make a moveset from" is certainly not a valid argument. Take a look around the roster, Sakurai has all kinds of crazy ideas for characters we saw little potential in, like Rosalina. If anything, having such a wide array of weapons would make the character more unique, which is exactly what Sakurai is looking for. You're the guy who needs to use better reasons from now on.
 

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Oh yeah there's also no retro in that leak, which would make me question Sakurai's statement regarding reviving IPs.
Perhaps he meant Mega Man? :p

Just joking of course. That quote from Sakurai was when they were still finishing up/right after Kid Icarus Uprising iirc though, things can easily have changed since then. Or he could just revive one of the existing franchises like Ice Climbers (which he apparently really loves.) I do agree that a new retro character is highly likely, but I don't think it's something that can necessarily be pointed out to kill a leak, not anymore than the exclusion of a high profile newcomer at least.
 
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"Is too hard to make a moveset from" is certainly not a valid argument. Take a look around the roster, Sakurai has all kinds of crazy ideas for characters we saw little potential in, like Rosalina. If anything, having such a wide array of weapons would make the character more unique, which is exactly what Sakurai is looking for. You're the guy who needs to use better reasons from now on.
He was being sarcastic.
 

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Yoshi can go either way at this point and I would be happy. A graphical Brawl update would be the least welcome, would want him to be more of a power house like he was in 64.

Although the alternative is a complete overhaul by throwing Baby Mario on his back and tweaking the moveset.
Everyone loves Yoshi, but he is rarely someone's first choice.
Revamping his character would add so much more flavour and fun to him.
 

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I would be surprised to see a playable advanced wars character. They don't have any kind of actions what so ever to build off of.
1. Cut Snake
2. Give Snake's moveset to Sami (or Andy, in the worst-case scenario)
3. ???
4. Profit

...or Sakurai could just create a moveset based on the absurd variety of stuff present in the Advance Wars series.
 

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Was looking over at gamefaqs and there is a new leak from that Nintja fellow from earlier

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/633202-super-smash-bros-for-wii-u/68712833

Hey guys sorry have not been able to give you guys more information sooner but just got some new information for you guys I think you guys would like to hear.

Stages
A Mario Party stage- the stage is a generic board, looks most like the tutorial board in the first mario party game. You see characters such as Koopa Kids and Toads have a Mario Party. There actions on the boards will affect the stage you battle on.

Saturn Valley- The area found in Earthbound, a peaceful battle area. Can see Mr. Saturns walking in the background

Rougeport- The seaport from the Paper Mario series. Another stage hazard free stage. Can see many of the Paper Mario partners walking around in the background coming in and out of buildings.

Gangplank Galleon- Fight on top of King K Rool's ship. Once in a while another ship filled with Kremlings will come by and attack the players on the ship with cannon balls.

These are the only new stages i was given. However I was told that we are getting Remakes of stages from the past 3 games. The ones mentioned to me was

Hyrule Castle (64)
Saffron City(64)
Yoshi's Isalnd (64)
Fountain of Dreams(GC)
Great Bay(GC)
Kongo Jungle (GC)
Princess Peach's Castle(GC)
Delfino Plaza (Wii)
Pirate Ship(Wii)
Skyworld(Wii)
Halberd(Wii)
Distant Planet(Wii)

Items
Several items have gone over major remodeling. Items shown already like the ray gun and the home run bat have already shown us this. Some new items i was told about include

Ice Flower-Freezes other players for a short duration
Propeller Hat- Allows players to jump higher and fall at a slower pace.
Blue Shell- Locks on to whoever has the most stocks and blows them up, if time battle locks on to whoever has the least percentage damage.
Tiki's Tear-Gives the player an attack boost for a short duration

My source did not give me more information regarding the characters but I am pushing for the information, so hopefully I can get it for you guys quickly.
 

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Let's hope that, if anything gets confirmed from that list, it's NOT Tiki's Tear, since many "leakers" have included that among their new items. Same goes for Gangplank Galleon, though seeing an HD version of that would be well worth whatever leak confusion emerged IMO.

Also, what did Nintja say earlier?
 
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Was looking over at gamefaqs and there is a new leak from that Nintja fellow from earlier

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/633202-super-smash-bros-for-wii-u/68712833

Hey guys sorry have not been able to give you guys more information sooner but just got some new information for you guys I think you guys would like to hear.

Stages
A Mario Party stage- the stage is a generic board, looks most like the tutorial board in the first mario party game. You see characters such as Koopa Kids and Toads have a Mario Party. There actions on the boards will affect the stage you battle on.

Saturn Valley- The area found in Earthbound, a peaceful battle area. Can see Mr. Saturns walking in the background

Rougeport- The seaport from the Paper Mario series. Another stage hazard free stage. Can see many of the Paper Mario partners walking around in the background coming in and out of buildings.

Gangplank Galleon- Fight on top of King K Rool's ship. Once in a while another ship filled with Kremlings will come by and attack the players on the ship with cannon balls.

These are the only new stages i was given. However I was told that we are getting Remakes of stages from the past 3 games. The ones mentioned to me was

Hyrule Castle (64)
Saffron City(64)
Yoshi's Isalnd (64)
Fountain of Dreams(GC)
Great Bay(GC)
Kongo Jungle (GC)
Princess Peach's Castle(GC)
Delfino Plaza (Wii)
Pirate Ship(Wii)
Skyworld(Wii)
Halberd(Wii)
Distant Planet(Wii)

Items
Several items have gone over major remodeling. Items shown already like the ray gun and the home run bat have already shown us this. Some new items i was told about include

Ice Flower-Freezes other players for a short duration
Propeller Hat- Allows players to jump higher and fall at a slower pace.
Blue Shell- Locks on to whoever has the most stocks and blows them up, if time battle locks on to whoever has the least percentage damage.
Tiki's Tear-Gives the player an attack boost for a short duration

My source did not give me more information regarding the characters but I am pushing for the information, so hopefully I can get it for you guys quickly.
I want these so much!
 

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Let's hope that, if anything gets confirmed from that list, it's NOT Tiki's Tear, since many "leakers" have included that among their new items. Same goes for Gangplank Galleon, though seeing an HD version of that would be well worth whatever leak confusion emerged IMO.

Also, what did Nintja say earlier?
All I remember was characters and something else it was a few weeks back too many pages to go find it
 

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Was looking over at gamefaqs and there is a new leak from that Nintja fellow from earlier

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/633202-super-smash-bros-for-wii-u/68712833

Hey guys sorry have not been able to give you guys more information sooner but just got some new information for you guys I think you guys would like to hear.

Stages
A Mario Party stage- the stage is a generic board, looks most like the tutorial board in the first mario party game. You see characters such as Koopa Kids and Toads have a Mario Party. There actions on the boards will affect the stage you battle on.

Saturn Valley- The area found in Earthbound, a peaceful battle area. Can see Mr. Saturns walking in the background

Rougeport- The seaport from the Paper Mario series. Another stage hazard free stage. Can see many of the Paper Mario partners walking around in the background coming in and out of buildings.

Gangplank Galleon- Fight on top of King K Rool's ship. Once in a while another ship filled with Kremlings will come by and attack the players on the ship with cannon balls.

These are the only new stages i was given. However I was told that we are getting Remakes of stages from the past 3 games. The ones mentioned to me was

Hyrule Castle (64)
Saffron City(64)
Yoshi's Isalnd (64)
Fountain of Dreams(GC)
Great Bay(GC)
Kongo Jungle (GC)
Princess Peach's Castle(GC)
Delfino Plaza (Wii)
Pirate Ship(Wii)
Skyworld(Wii)
Halberd(Wii)
Distant Planet(Wii)

Items
Several items have gone over major remodeling. Items shown already like the ray gun and the home run bat have already shown us this. Some new items i was told about include

Ice Flower-Freezes other players for a short duration
Propeller Hat- Allows players to jump higher and fall at a slower pace.
Blue Shell- Locks on to whoever has the most stocks and blows them up, if time battle locks on to whoever has the least percentage damage.
Tiki's Tear-Gives the player an attack boost for a short duration

My source did not give me more information regarding the characters but I am pushing for the information, so hopefully I can get it for you guys quickly.
Didn't someone mention all of these things in another leak? Man... a leak tree would be great... anyone with a lot of free time want to make one?
 

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All I remember was characters and something else it was a few weeks back too many pages to go find it
Found it.


Hello everyone. I was given access to some information concerning the upcoming game. I can not give the source due to not wanting to get my source in jeopardy. So take this information at face value if you want but here is what I know about the game.

All veterans return from Brawl. Along with that Mewtwo as well as Roy will return, with a reworked play style.
The new assist trophies I was told of include:
Plum (Mario Golf 64)- Hits golf balls at opposing players
Lissa (Fire Emblem Awakening)- When summoned heals the summoner by half their damage
Adeleine (Kirby 64)- When summoned a canvas appears behind her and she paints enemies to attack the opposing players.
General Scales (Star Fox Adventures) – Jumps into the background and calls fourth sharpclaw troops to attack the other players.
As for characters, they told me due to having a bigger production team for this game they were able to produce more new characters than initially thought. The list is as follows

Wii Fit Trainer
The Villager
Megaman
Rosalina
Little Mac
Chrom/Lucina
Dixie Kong
Ridley
King K Rool
Lip
Prince Sable
Bowser Jr.
Krystal
Issac
Shulk
Palutena
Pac Man

They did not get really much into details for all the characters styles of gameplay but was able to get some information about a few.
Krystal- Will play like how Fox did from Star Fox Adventures. By having specials focused on the skills utilized in that game.
Chrom/Lucina- The reason they went with the tag team between the two was to acknowledge the team up gameplay style introduced in Fire Emblem Awakening
Dixie Kong- She will utilize her hair and some of her move sets will be taken from her sister Tiny’s gameplay from DK 64.

That is all I have for today once I get some more information on the remaining gameplay I will try to get it to you guys as soon as possible.


Nintja's earlier post. 17 newcomers is a rather large stretch, but the roster itself isn't terrible. It also fits in with that surge of recent "leaks" that claim there will be an unlockable Mario newcomer, for whatever that's worth.
 

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Found it.


Hello everyone. I was given access to some information concerning the upcoming game. I can not give the source due to not wanting to get my source in jeopardy. So take this information at face value if you want but here is what I know about the game.

All veterans return from Brawl. Along with that Mewtwo as well as Roy will return, with a reworked play style.
The new assist trophies I was told of include:
Plum (Mario Golf 64)- Hits golf balls at opposing players
Lissa (Fire Emblem Awakening)- When summoned heals the summoner by half their damage
Adeleine (Kirby 64)- When summoned a canvas appears behind her and she paints enemies to attack the opposing players.
General Scales (Star Fox Adventures) – Jumps into the background and calls fourth sharpclaw troops to attack the other players.
As for characters, they told me due to having a bigger production team for this game they were able to produce more new characters than initially thought. The list is as follows

Wii Fit Trainer
The Villager
Megaman
Rosalina
Little Mac
Chrom/Lucina
Dixie Kong
Ridley
King K Rool
Lip
Prince Sable
Bowser Jr.
Krystal
Issac
Shulk
Palutena
Pac Man

They did not get really much into details for all the characters styles of gameplay but was able to get some information about a few.
Krystal- Will play like how Fox did from Star Fox Adventures. By having specials focused on the skills utilized in that game.
Chrom/Lucina- The reason they went with the tag team between the two was to acknowledge the team up gameplay style introduced in Fire Emblem Awakening
Dixie Kong- She will utilize her hair and some of her move sets will be taken from her sister Tiny’s gameplay from DK 64.

That is all I have for today once I get some more information on the remaining gameplay I will try to get it to you guys as soon as possible.


Nintja's earlier post. 17 newcomers is a rather large stretch, but the roster itself isn't terrible. It also fits in with that surge of recent "leaks" that claim there will be an unlockable Mario newcomer, for whatever that's worth.
The more leaks that are similar and point to a real leak the weaker my will to say "FAKE!" gets. Geez... but I still gotta say that its fake. Theres not enough evidence. It seems like a cool/fun roster and stages and everything but just ... Its hard to believe stuff like this. Wow no Mii's? I like this leak very much.

I didn't the leak that said there was another mario newcomer suggest that there would be two? They also kinda hinted at Toad also being playable.
 

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Yeah some of those things in that leak sound like straight fan hoping to me, a SF adventures AT? I wont believe that for a second.
 
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Found it.


Hello everyone. I was given access to some information concerning the upcoming game. I can not give the source due to not wanting to get my source in jeopardy. So take this information at face value if you want but here is what I know about the game.

All veterans return from Brawl. Along with that Mewtwo as well as Roy will return, with a reworked play style.
The new assist trophies I was told of include:
Plum (Mario Golf 64)- Hits golf balls at opposing players
Lissa (Fire Emblem Awakening)- When summoned heals the summoner by half their damage
Adeleine (Kirby 64)- When summoned a canvas appears behind her and she paints enemies to attack the opposing players.
General Scales (Star Fox Adventures) – Jumps into the background and calls fourth sharpclaw troops to attack the other players.
As for characters, they told me due to having a bigger production team for this game they were able to produce more new characters than initially thought. The list is as follows

Wii Fit Trainer
The Villager
Megaman
Rosalina
Little Mac
Chrom/Lucina
Dixie Kong
Ridley
King K Rool
Lip
Prince Sable
Bowser Jr.
Krystal
Issac
Shulk
Palutena
Pac Man

They did not get really much into details for all the characters styles of gameplay but was able to get some information about a few.
Krystal- Will play like how Fox did from Star Fox Adventures. By having specials focused on the skills utilized in that game.
Chrom/Lucina- The reason they went with the tag team between the two was to acknowledge the team up gameplay style introduced in Fire Emblem Awakening
Dixie Kong- She will utilize her hair and some of her move sets will be taken from her sister Tiny’s gameplay from DK 64.

That is all I have for today once I get some more information on the remaining gameplay I will try to get it to you guys as soon as possible.


Nintja's earlier post. 17 newcomers is a rather large stretch, but the roster itself isn't terrible. It also fits in with that surge of recent "leaks" that claim there will be an unlockable Mario newcomer, for whatever that's worth.
Too good to be true D:
 

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Found it.


Hello everyone. I was given access to some information concerning the upcoming game. I can not give the source due to not wanting to get my source in jeopardy. So take this information at face value if you want but here is what I know about the game.

All veterans return from Brawl. Along with that Mewtwo as well as Roy will return, with a reworked play style.
The new assist trophies I was told of include:
Plum (Mario Golf 64)- Hits golf balls at opposing players
Lissa (Fire Emblem Awakening)- When summoned heals the summoner by half their damage
Adeleine (Kirby 64)- When summoned a canvas appears behind her and she paints enemies to attack the opposing players.
General Scales (Star Fox Adventures) – Jumps into the background and calls fourth sharpclaw troops to attack the other players.
As for characters, they told me due to having a bigger production team for this game they were able to produce more new characters than initially thought. The list is as follows

Wii Fit Trainer
The Villager
Megaman
Rosalina
Little Mac
Chrom/Lucina
Dixie Kong
Ridley
King K Rool
Lip
Prince Sable
Bowser Jr.
Krystal
Issac
Shulk
Palutena
Pac Man

They did not get really much into details for all the characters styles of gameplay but was able to get some information about a few.
Krystal- Will play like how Fox did from Star Fox Adventures. By having specials focused on the skills utilized in that game.
Chrom/Lucina- The reason they went with the tag team between the two was to acknowledge the team up gameplay style introduced in Fire Emblem Awakening
Dixie Kong- She will utilize her hair and some of her move sets will be taken from her sister Tiny’s gameplay from DK 64.

That is all I have for today once I get some more information on the remaining gameplay I will try to get it to you guys as soon as possible.


Nintja's earlier post. 17 newcomers is a rather large stretch, but the roster itself isn't terrible. It also fits in with that surge of recent "leaks" that claim there will be an unlockable Mario newcomer, for whatever that's worth.
I would totally be down for this roster.
 
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