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SSB4 Rumours and Leaks

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GreenReaperGod

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Dead:

Journalist Leak - Comprised of a "final roster" without Rosalina or Toon Link.
Reddit Leak - Claims that Rosalina is an Assist Trophy.
ThatWasPeachy False Leak - Self-explanatory.
Wegenbarth False Leak - See above.
APC99 False Leak - See above.
Occopicus Leak - Fortanono fake.
60 Character Roster Leak - Someone in this thread (don't remember) confessed to making it.
splat False Leak - Self-explanatory.
MisterVideoGaming False Leak - See above.
Competitive Arsehole Friend Leak - Clever analysis by Groose indicates that numbers-based poster username spells out "'Tis Fake!"
Early February 2013 Crap Leak - Claims that "Mega Man is off the table."
Smashboardian Leak That I Think Fortanono Made Leak - I was correct.
legendofrob1 False Leak - Self-explanatory.
Illiterate Leak (#2) - Said that Captain Falcon would be revealed on January 21st.
Toots Leak - Leaker admitted it was fake
Character Model Leak - Some models were incorrect (I think)
Mr. Prediction Leak - Said that Shulk would be revealed on January 30th.
Hanafuda Leak - Said Lucario was cut.
Basty Leak - Also said that Lucario was cut.
Sandbag Leak - Said that Sandbag would be revealed on January 31st.
Really Short Leak - Lucario was revealed before Captain Falcon.
Frostwraith Leak - Self-explanatory.
Sakura Leak - Says that "Smash 5" is already in development by a different studio, when Sakurai has stated that SSBU and SSB3DS are Smash 4 and 5.
Sesquin Leak - Stated that Spear Pillar would return, but Palkia (major stage element of Spear Pillar) has been confirmed as a pokeball Pokemon.
Gandalf69me Leak - Admitted Fake
"Somebody is Coming" Leak - See above
Cap'nChreest Leak - See above
Souta Satou Leak - Yoshi Kato's email was soutasatou@____.com (they had different claims)
Yoshi Kato Leak - See above
Sound Guy Leak - Said Diddy would be next revealed (Little Mac was revealed before)
Veteran Leak - See above
Glass Joe Leak - Said that Diddy would be revealed on February 13th.
IGN Leak (#1) - See above
Year of Yoshi Leak - Said Yoshi and Baby Mario would be revealed during the direct on February 13th

Live:

Jumpman Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]
  • Exclusion of Mewtwo, Dixie, Mii, Jumpman, ROB or Lucario
  • Inclusion of Snake
  • Roster exceeding "around 40 characters"
  • Exclusion of Bowser Jr. Assist Trophy
  • Exclusion of Cannon Box ite

Betternet Roster Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]
  • Inclusion of Ike, Lucas, Wolf, Snake, Pokemon Trainer with Brawl Pokemon
  • Inclusion of newcomer who is not Dixie, Toon Zelda, Palutena, Krystal, Chrom & Lucina, Mii, Little Mac, Takamaru, or Pacman
  • Exclusion of any non-listed Brawl veteran or Mewtwo
  • Mewtwo using a Mega Form, not using "Psycho Break" Final Smash
  • Zelda/Sheik or Samus/ZSS transformations being changed
  • Pokemon Trainer's Final Smash not being "Tri-Pledge" or "Triple Pledge"
  • Pacman and/or Ganondorf not being shown at an E3 2014 Nintendo Direct
OP: http://pastebin.com/zTddsKWn
[/COLLAPSE]
GameFAQs PM Leak *
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]
  • Exclusion of "Super Amazing Wagon Adventure U" stage
  • Exclusion of "Buffalo Buffalo Buffalo Buffalo Buffalo Buffalo Buffalo Buffalo" Assist Trophy
OP: http://pastebin.com/MazHmmzn
[/COLLAPSE]
NotSakurai Leak *
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]
  • Exclusion of Barrel Cannon, Tiki's Tear, or Baby Yoshi items
  • Exclusion of Lor Starcutter (Wii U), Pokemon World Tournament (3DS), Chimera Factory (3DS), 8-Bit Ice Climber (Wii U and 3DS), Prison Island (Wii U) stages
  • Inclusion of any Melee stage aside from Battlefield and Final Destination
  • Exclusion of Sallya, Tails or Magnus Assist Trophies
  • Exclusion of My Unit, Shulk, or Ridley
  • Inclusion of Pokemon who is not playable in Brawl or Mewtwo, or Roy or Young Link
  • Inclusion of another Mario character
  • Exclusion of Dr. Mario skin for Mario
OP: http://pastebin.com/gW9q1daE
[/COLLAPSE]
Four Revealed Newcomer Info Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]
  • Any listed move for Villager, WFT, Mega Man and Rosalina behaving opposite to description
  • Exclusion of Sheik transformation
  • Phantom being anything but an Assist Trophy
OP: http://pastebin.com/tfirfp3K
[/COLLAPSE]
Illiterate Leak (#1) *
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]
  • Exclusion of Lor Starcutter (Wii U), Pokemon World Tournament (3DS), or Prison Island (Wii U) stages
  • Exclusion of Rosalina (lol), Little Mac, Mii, Shulk, Anna, Pacman, Palutena, Mewtwo, Ness, Dedede (lol), Jigglypuff, Yoshi, Ganondorf or Falco
OP: http://pastebin.com/WRXmEfyU
[/COLLAPSE]
Generic Short New Namco Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]
  • Exclusion of Mii, Ike, Ness, ROB, Little Mac, K. Rool, Mewtwo
OP: http://pastebin.com/cZ8qH1Dj
[/COLLAPSE]
New Nintendo Direct Stuff Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]
  • Disconfirmation of existence of or details about listed game titles
OP: http://pastebin.com/Fh6c8pKL
[/COLLAPSE]
Neoseeker Leak (#1)
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]
  • Disconfirmation of Ridley, Little Mac
  • Disconfirmation of Metroid, Anthony Higgs, Nabbit, Toadsworth, Kamek, Cranky, Tingle, Beedle, Tom Nook, or Hector Assist Trophies
OP: http://pastebin.com/mbwtK8Zt
[/COLLAPSE]
Neogaf Rumor
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]
  • Target release date that is not spring
OP: N/A
[/COLLAPSE]
Spacechannel5 Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]
  • Exclusion of Mii, Dixie Kong, Toon Zelda/Tetra, Bayonetta, Pac-Man, and Chrom as characters
  • Inclusion of Ridley as anything but a stage hazard
  • Exclusion of Falco, Ness, Lucas, Jigglypuff, Yoshi, or Ike
  • Inclusion of Snake or Jigglypuff
  • Exclusion of Audino as a pokeball and Lucina as an assist trophy
  • Planned release date that is not June
OP: http://pastebin.com/767X7x6h
[/COLLAPSE]
Naryol Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]
  • Inclusion of Geno or Goku
  • Roster with more or less than 42 characters
  • More or less than 3 third parties
  • Inclusion of Ridley, King K Rool, or Bowser Jr. as playable characters
  • Exclusion of Lucario or R.O.B
OP: http://pastebin.com/uVmHnZXC
[/COLLAPSE]
E Gadd Leak
[Collapse="Killable By:"]
  • Exclusion of Professor E Gadd, Tingle, and Dixie Kong (as her own character)
  • Exclusion of Zero Suit Samus, Sheik, and Ganondorf
  • Exclusion of Bowser Jr, King Boo, Hammer Bro, Waluigi, Kat & Ana, Kamek, Cranky Kong, Midna and Wolf Link, Beedle, and Metroid assist trophies
  • Inclusion of Lakitu assist trophy
  • Inclusion of Ridley as anything but a boss
  • Inclusion of King K Rool as anything but a stage element
  • Exclusion of Gangplank Galleon stage
OP: http://pastebin.com/EqViSATv
[/COLLAPSE]
Three Post Leak/Tabuu Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]
  • More or less than 59 characters in the game (including transformations)
  • More or less than 53 character slots on the roster
  • Exclusion of any Brawl Character
  • Zero Suit Samus not able to be selected at the character select screen
  • Jigglypuff not having a moveset with elements from her new Fairy type
  • Snake not being revealed in a Nintendo Direct that will announce a Metal Gear Wii U game.
  • Inclusion of Pokemon Trainer whose Pokemon do not include Squirtle, Ivysaur, and Blaziken.
  • Inclusion of stamina for the Pokemon Trainer
  • Exclusion of Dr. Mario, Roy, Mewtwo, and Pichu
  • Exclusion of a Dr. Luigi alt for Dr. Mario
  • Exclusion of Drawing Link/Young Link, Charizard/Mega Charizard X, King K Rool, RIdley, Palutena, Robin/Avatar, Little Mac, Mii, Pac-Man, or Tabuu
  • Exclusion of female alt for Robin/Avatar
  • Exclusion of Sakurai, Iwata, Miyamoto, and Reggie default Miis.
  • Exclusion of Shulk assist trophy
OP: http://pastebin.com/SXWvG2J6
[/COLLAPSE]
GaeozHero Leak
[collapse="Killable By:"]
  • Exclusion of Diddy Kong and Palutena.
  • Exclusion of a Minecart Madness (Wii U) stage.
  • Exclusion of "Ms. Tetris" (character apparently uses Tetris blocks and other puzzle related things to fight).
  • Diddy Kong and Ms. Tetris not being revealed this month.
  • Exclusion of a Master Ball and Lip's Stick item.
  • Exclusion of Shadow Moses Island.
  • Adventure mode not having a desert level, a factory level, and a volcano level.
  • Zelda not being able to summon a controllable helper.
OP: http://pastebin.com/EpGFgwDF
[/COLLAPSE]
Hyrule Goddesses Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]
  • Exclusion of every Brawl veteran except for Snake
  • Exclusion of Lucina, Takamaru, Little Mac, King K Rool, Palutena, Pac-Man, Galacta Knight, Hyrule Goddesses (Din, Nayru, and Farore), Lucina, Takamaru, and Little Mac.
  • Inclusion of another newcomer not stated in that list.
  • Exclusion of a Golden Mushroom, Love-love stick, Monado, Ice Flower, and Proto Shield items.
  • Exclusion of Another Dimension, Chaos Theatre, Popples Islands, Lightning (F-Zero), Planet Wisp, NES Pinball, and Murasame Castle stages.
  • Exclusion of Dixie Kong, Dillon, T-Rex, Wrestler, Quick Man, Eggplant Wizard, Yveltal, Chesnaught, Floette, Doublade, Genesect, Reshiram, and Zekrom as pokeball pokemon/assist trophies.
  • Exclusion of Mii Mode (basically a regular match except with only Miis).
  • Inclusion of Mii outside of Mii Mode.
[/COLLAPSE]
Neoseeker Leak #2
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]
  • Exclusion of every Brawl Veteran except for Pichu, Dr. Mario, Roy, Young Link, Jigglypuff, and Snake.
  • Exclusion of Charizard (solo fighter), Pokemon Trainer (with Sylveon, Leafeon, Vaporean), Mewtwo, Takamaru, Palutena, Little Mac, Dixie Kong, Shulk, and Lucina.
  • Inclusion of any returning stage beside Pokemon Stadium 2 and Yoshi's Island (not Final Destination ???)
  • Exclusion of Serperior, Reshram, Zekram, and the X and Y legendaries as pokeball pokemon.
  • Exclusion of Home-Run Contest, Break the Targets, and Events (Wii U exclusive)
[/COLLAPSE]
Soumynona Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By"]
  • Exclusion of Ridley, Captain Falcon, Ganondorf, Palutena, Mewtwo, and Lucas
[/COLLAPSE]
"ChaosZero" Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]
  • Inclusion of King K Rool and Ridley as playable characters
  • Dixie Kong beng partnered with Diddy
  • Online mode without the ability to host rooms or choose what items are available
[/COLLAPSE]
Sable Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]
  • Exclusion of Little Mac, Prince Sable, Palutena, Takamaru, Mii, Shulk, Monster Hunter, Slime, and Pac-Man
  • Inclusion of any other newcomer besides the ones listed above
[/COLLAPSE]
Mjardo Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]
  • Exclusion of Dixie Kong, Prince Sable, a different retro newcomer, Lucas, and a Pokemon Trainer-like character
  • Exclusion of a Tropical Freeze stage
[/COLLAPSE]

[/COLLAPSE]
Killed a bunch of leaks.
Readded the "ChaosZero" leak
Added the Sable Leak and the Mjardo leak.

Umm....Remember this leak?
"The full list of newcomers is:

Little Mac
Prince Sable
Palutena
Takamaru
Mii
Shulk
Monster Hunter
Slime
Pac-Man

Wait for the next direct and you'll begin to see this is true. One of them will be revealed then to build hype for an upcoming game."
One of the newcomers was revealed, which was Little Mac.
 
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Z25

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GreenReaperGod said:

Dead:

Journalist Leak - Comprised of a "final roster" without Rosalina or Toon Link.
Reddit Leak - Claims that Rosalina is an Assist Trophy.
ThatWasPeachy False Leak - Self-explanatory.
Wegenbarth False Leak - See above.
APC99 False Leak - See above.
Occopicus Leak - Fortanono fake.
60 Character Roster Leak - Someone in this thread (don't remember) confessed to making it.
splat False Leak - Self-explanatory.
MisterVideoGaming False Leak - See above.
Competitive Arsehole Friend Leak - Clever analysis by Groose indicates that numbers-based poster username spells out "'Tis Fake!"
Early February 2013 Crap Leak - Claims that "Mega Man is off the table."
Smashboardian Leak That I Think Fortanono Made Leak - I was correct.
legendofrob1 False Leak - Self-explanatory.
Illiterate Leak (#2) - Said that Captain Falcon would be revealed on January 21st.
Toots Leak - Leaker admitted it was fake
Character Model Leak - Some models were incorrect (I think)
Mr. Prediction Leak - Said that Shulk would be revealed on January 30th.
Hanafuda Leak - Said Lucario was cut.
Basty Leak - Also said that Lucario was cut.
Sandbag Leak - Said that Sandbag would be revealed on January 31st.
Really Short Leak - Lucario was revealed before Captain Falcon.
Frostwraith Leak - Self-explanatory.
Sakura Leak - Says that "Smash 5" is already in development by a different studio, when Sakurai has stated that SSBU and SSB3DS are Smash 4 and 5.
Sesquin Leak - Stated that Spear Pillar would return, but Palkia (major stage element of Spear Pillar) has been confirmed as a pokeball Pokemon.
Gandalf69me Leak - Admitted Fake
"Somebody is Coming" Leak - See above
Cap'nChreest Leak - See above
Souta Satou Leak - Yoshi Kato's email was soutasatou@____.com (they had different claims)
Yoshi Kato Leak - See above
Sound Guy Leak - Said Diddy would be next revealed (Little Mac was revealed before)
Veteran Leak - See above
Glass Joe Leak - Said that Diddy would be revealed on February 13th.
IGN Leak (#1) - See above
Year of Yoshi Leak - Said Yoshi and Baby Mario would be revealed during the direct on February 13th

Live:

Jumpman Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]
  • Exclusion of Mewtwo, Dixie, Mii, Jumpman, ROB or Lucario
  • Inclusion of Snake
  • Roster exceeding "around 40 characters"
  • Exclusion of Bowser Jr. Assist Trophy
  • Exclusion of Cannon Box item
OP: http://pastebin.com/7YuC2NAy

Betternet Roster Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]
  • Inclusion of Ike, Lucas, Wolf, Snake, Pokemon Trainer with Brawl Pokemon
  • Inclusion of newcomer who is not Dixie, Toon Zelda, Palutena, Krystal, Chrom & Lucina, Mii, Little Mac, Takamaru, or Pacman
  • Exclusion of any non-listed Brawl veteran or Mewtwo
  • Mewtwo using a Mega Form, not using "Psycho Break" Final Smash
  • Zelda/Sheik or Samus/ZSS transformations being changed
  • Pokemon Trainer's Final Smash not being "Tri-Pledge" or "Triple Pledge"
  • Pacman and/or Ganondorf not being shown at an E3 2014 Nintendo Direct
OP: http://pastebin.com/zTddsKWn
[/COLLAPSE]
GameFAQs PM Leak *
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]
  • Exclusion of "Super Amazing Wagon Adventure U" stage
  • Exclusion of "Buffalo Buffalo Buffalo Buffalo Buffalo Buffalo Buffalo Buffalo" Assist Trophy
OP: http://pastebin.com/MazHmmzn
[/COLLAPSE]
NotSakurai Leak *
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]
  • Exclusion of Barrel Cannon, Tiki's Tear, or Baby Yoshi items
  • Exclusion of Lor Starcutter (Wii U), Pokemon World Tournament (3DS), Chimera Factory (3DS), 8-Bit Ice Climber (Wii U and 3DS), Prison Island (Wii U) stages
  • Inclusion of any Melee stage aside from Battlefield and Final Destination
  • Exclusion of Sallya, Tails or Magnus Assist Trophies
  • Exclusion of My Unit, Shulk, or Ridley
  • Inclusion of Pokemon who is not playable in Brawl or Mewtwo, or Roy or Young Link
  • Inclusion of another Mario character
  • Exclusion of Dr. Mario skin for Mario
OP: http://pastebin.com/gW9q1daE
[/COLLAPSE]
Four Revealed Newcomer Info Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]
  • Any listed move for Villager, WFT, Mega Man and Rosalina behaving opposite to description
  • Exclusion of Sheik transformation
  • Phantom being anything but an Assist Trophy
OP: http://pastebin.com/tfirfp3K
[/COLLAPSE]
Illiterate Leak (#1) *
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]
  • Exclusion of Lor Starcutter (Wii U), Pokemon World Tournament (3DS), or Prison Island (Wii U) stages
  • Exclusion of Rosalina (lol), Little Mac, Mii, Shulk, Anna, Pacman, Palutena, Mewtwo, Ness, Dedede (lol), Jigglypuff, Yoshi, Ganondorf or Falco
OP: http://pastebin.com/WRXmEfyU
[/COLLAPSE]
Generic Short New Namco Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]
  • Exclusion of Mii, Ike, Ness, ROB, Little Mac, K. Rool, Mewtwo
OP: http://pastebin.com/cZ8qH1Dj
[/COLLAPSE]
New Nintendo Direct Stuff Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]
  • Disconfirmation of existence of or details about listed game titles
OP: http://pastebin.com/Fh6c8pKL
[/COLLAPSE]
Neoseeker Leak (#1)
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]
  • Disconfirmation of Ridley, Little Mac
  • Disconfirmation of Metroid, Anthony Higgs, Nabbit, Toadsworth, Kamek, Cranky, Tingle, Beedle, Tom Nook, or Hector Assist Trophies
OP: http://pastebin.com/mbwtK8Zt
[/COLLAPSE]
Neogaf Rumor
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]
  • Target release date that is not spring
OP: N/A
[/COLLAPSE]
Spacechannel5 Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]
  • Exclusion of Mii, Dixie Kong, Toon Zelda/Tetra, Bayonetta, Pac-Man, and Chrom as characters
  • Inclusion of Ridley as anything but a stage hazard
  • Exclusion of Falco, Ness, Lucas, Jigglypuff, Yoshi, or Ike
  • Inclusion of Snake or Jigglypuff
  • Exclusion of Audino as a pokeball and Lucina as an assist trophy
  • Planned release date that is not June
OP: http://pastebin.com/767X7x6h
[/COLLAPSE]
Naryol Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]
  • Inclusion of Geno or Goku
  • Roster with more or less than 42 characters
  • More or less than 3 third parties
  • Inclusion of Ridley, King K Rool, or Bowser Jr. as playable characters
  • Exclusion of Lucario or R.O.B
OP: http://pastebin.com/uVmHnZXC
[/COLLAPSE]
E Gadd Leak
[Collapse="Killable By:"]
  • Exclusion of Professor E Gadd, Tingle, and Dixie Kong (as her own character)
  • Exclusion of Zero Suit Samus, Sheik, and Ganondorf
  • Exclusion of Bowser Jr, King Boo, Hammer Bro, Waluigi, Kat & Ana, Kamek, Cranky Kong, Midna and Wolf Link, Beedle, and Metroid assist trophies
  • Inclusion of Lakitu assist trophy
  • Inclusion of Ridley as anything but a boss
  • Inclusion of King K Rool as anything but a stage element
  • Exclusion of Gangplank Galleon stage
OP: http://pastebin.com/EqViSATv
[/COLLAPSE]
Three Post Leak/Tabuu Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]
  • More or less than 59 characters in the game (including transformations)
  • More or less than 53 character slots on the roster
  • Exclusion of any Brawl Character
  • Zero Suit Samus not able to be selected at the character select screen
  • Jigglypuff not having a moveset with elements from her new Fairy type
  • Snake not being revealed in a Nintendo Direct that will announce a Metal Gear Wii U game.
  • Inclusion of Pokemon Trainer whose Pokemon do not include Squirtle, Ivysaur, and Blaziken.
  • Inclusion of stamina for the Pokemon Trainer
  • Exclusion of Dr. Mario, Roy, Mewtwo, and Pichu
  • Exclusion of a Dr. Luigi alt for Dr. Mario
  • Exclusion of Drawing Link/Young Link, Charizard/Mega Charizard X, King K Rool, RIdley, Palutena, Robin/Avatar, Little Mac, Mii, Pac-Man, or Tabuu
  • Exclusion of female alt for Robin/Avatar
  • Exclusion of Sakurai, Iwata, Miyamoto, and Reggie default Miis.
  • Exclusion of Shulk assist trophy
OP: http://pastebin.com/SXWvG2J6
[/COLLAPSE]
GaeozHero Leak
[collapse="Killable By:"]
  • Exclusion of Diddy Kong and Palutena.
  • Exclusion of a Minecart Madness (Wii U) stage.
  • Exclusion of "Ms. Tetris" (character apparently uses Tetris blocks and other puzzle related things to fight).
  • Diddy Kong and Ms. Tetris not being revealed this month.
  • Exclusion of a Master Ball and Lip's Stick item.
  • Exclusion of Shadow Moses Island.
  • Adventure mode not having a desert level, a factory level, and a volcano level.
  • Zelda not being able to summon a controllable helper.
OP: http://pastebin.com/EpGFgwDF
[/COLLAPSE]
Hyrule Goddesses Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]
  • Exclusion of every Brawl veteran except for Snake
  • Exclusion of Lucina, Takamaru, Little Mac, King K Rool, Palutena, Pac-Man, Galacta Knight, Hyrule Goddesses (Din, Nayru, and Farore), Lucina, Takamaru, and Little Mac.
  • Inclusion of another newcomer not stated in that list.
  • Exclusion of a Golden Mushroom, Love-love stick, Monado, Ice Flower, and Proto Shield items.
  • Exclusion of Another Dimension, Chaos Theatre, Popples Islands, Lightning (F-Zero), Planet Wisp, NES Pinball, and Murasame Castle stages.
  • Exclusion of Dixie Kong, Dillon, T-Rex, Wrestler, Quick Man, Eggplant Wizard, Yveltal, Chesnaught, Floette, Doublade, Genesect, Reshiram, and Zekrom as pokeball pokemon/assist trophies.
  • Exclusion of Mii Mode (basically a regular match except with only Miis).
  • Inclusion of Mii outside of Mii Mode.
[/COLLAPSE]
Neoseeker Leak #2
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]
  • Exclusion of every Brawl Veteran except for Pichu, Dr. Mario, Roy, Young Link, Jigglypuff, and Snake.
  • Exclusion of Charizard (solo fighter), Pokemon Trainer (with Sylveon, Leafeon, Vaporean), Mewtwo, Takamaru, Palutena, Little Mac, Dixie Kong, Shulk, and Lucina.
  • Inclusion of any returning stage beside Pokemon Stadium 2 and Yoshi's Island (not Final Destination ???)
  • Exclusion of Serperior, Reshram, Zekram, and the X and Y legendaries as pokeball pokemon.
  • Exclusion of Home-Run Contest, Break the Targets, and Events (Wii U exclusive)
[/COLLAPSE]
Soumynona Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By"]
  • Exclusion of Ridley, Captain Falcon, Ganondorf, Palutena, Mewtwo, and Lucas
[/COLLAPSE]
"ChaosZero" Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]
  • Inclusion of King K Rool and Ridley as playable characters
  • Dixie Kong beng partnered with Diddy
  • Online mode without the ability to host rooms or choose what items are available
[/COLLAPSE]
Sable Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]
  • Exclusion of Little Mac, Prince Sable, Palutena, Takamaru, Mii, Shulk, Monster Hunter, Slime, and Pac-Man
  • Inclusion of any other newcomer besides the ones listed above
[/COLLAPSE]
Mjardo Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]
  • Exclusion of Dixie Kong, Prince Sable, a different retro newcomer, Lucas, and a Pokemon Trainer-like character
  • Exclusion of a Tropical Freeze stage
[/COLLAPSE]

[/COLLAPSE]
Killed a bunch of leaks.
Readded the "ChaosZero" leak
Added the Sable Leak and the Mjardo leak.

Umm....Remember this leak?
"The full list of newcomers is:

Little Mac
Prince Sable
Palutena
Takamaru
Mii
Shulk
Monster Hunter
Slime
Pac-Man

Wait for the next direct and you'll begin to see this is true. One of them will be revealed then to build hype for an upcoming game."
One of the newcomers was revealed, which was Little Mac.
Click to expand...
So many dead lol. Anyway that is interesting, especially slime and monster hunter.
 
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BluePikmin11 said:
Why Monster Hunter. D:
Those are weird choices IMO.
Seems way too unlikely, especially with 5 3rd parties.
Where's the original post for this leak?
Click to expand...
The monster hunter is reasonable though. We have Capcom represented but that is currently their biggest Nintendo console game and is widely known and popular. I wouldn't mind these newcomers though, they are pretty cool.
 
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It might be worth noting, the Mjardo leak had Little Mac (yes, so did everyone else's and their mothers) but he/she posted this info the day before Little Mac was revealed.
 
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GreenReaperGod said:

Dead:

Journalist Leak - Comprised of a "final roster" without Rosalina or Toon Link.
Reddit Leak - Claims that Rosalina is an Assist Trophy.
ThatWasPeachy False Leak - Self-explanatory.
Wegenbarth False Leak - See above.
APC99 False Leak - See above.
Occopicus Leak - Fortanono fake.
60 Character Roster Leak - Someone in this thread (don't remember) confessed to making it.
splat False Leak - Self-explanatory.
MisterVideoGaming False Leak - See above.
Competitive Arsehole Friend Leak - Clever analysis by Groose indicates that numbers-based poster username spells out "'Tis Fake!"
Early February 2013 Crap Leak - Claims that "Mega Man is off the table."
Smashboardian Leak That I Think Fortanono Made Leak - I was correct.
legendofrob1 False Leak - Self-explanatory.
Illiterate Leak (#2) - Said that Captain Falcon would be revealed on January 21st.
Toots Leak - Leaker admitted it was fake
Character Model Leak - Some models were incorrect (I think)
Mr. Prediction Leak - Said that Shulk would be revealed on January 30th.
Hanafuda Leak - Said Lucario was cut.
Basty Leak - Also said that Lucario was cut.
Sandbag Leak - Said that Sandbag would be revealed on January 31st.
Really Short Leak - Lucario was revealed before Captain Falcon.
Frostwraith Leak - Self-explanatory.
Sakura Leak - Says that "Smash 5" is already in development by a different studio, when Sakurai has stated that SSBU and SSB3DS are Smash 4 and 5.
Sesquin Leak - Stated that Spear Pillar would return, but Palkia (major stage element of Spear Pillar) has been confirmed as a pokeball Pokemon.
Gandalf69me Leak - Admitted Fake
"Somebody is Coming" Leak - See above
Cap'nChreest Leak - See above
Souta Satou Leak - Yoshi Kato's email was soutasatou@____.com (they had different claims)
Yoshi Kato Leak - See above
Sound Guy Leak - Said Diddy would be next revealed (Little Mac was revealed before)
Veteran Leak - See above
Glass Joe Leak - Said that Diddy would be revealed on February 13th.
IGN Leak (#1) - See above
Year of Yoshi Leak - Said Yoshi and Baby Mario would be revealed during the direct on February 13th

Live:

Jumpman Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]
  • Exclusion of Mewtwo, Dixie, Mii, Jumpman, ROB or Lucario
  • Inclusion of Snake
  • Roster exceeding "around 40 characters"
  • Exclusion of Bowser Jr. Assist Trophy
  • Exclusion of Cannon Box item
OP: http://pastebin.com/7YuC2NAy

Betternet Roster Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]
  • Inclusion of Ike, Lucas, Wolf, Snake, Pokemon Trainer with Brawl Pokemon
  • Inclusion of newcomer who is not Dixie, Toon Zelda, Palutena, Krystal, Chrom & Lucina, Mii, Little Mac, Takamaru, or Pacman
  • Exclusion of any non-listed Brawl veteran or Mewtwo
  • Mewtwo using a Mega Form, not using "Psycho Break" Final Smash
  • Zelda/Sheik or Samus/ZSS transformations being changed
  • Pokemon Trainer's Final Smash not being "Tri-Pledge" or "Triple Pledge"
  • Pacman and/or Ganondorf not being shown at an E3 2014 Nintendo Direct
OP: http://pastebin.com/zTddsKWn
[/COLLAPSE]
GameFAQs PM Leak *
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]
  • Exclusion of "Super Amazing Wagon Adventure U" stage
  • Exclusion of "Buffalo Buffalo Buffalo Buffalo Buffalo Buffalo Buffalo Buffalo" Assist Trophy
OP: http://pastebin.com/MazHmmzn
[/COLLAPSE]
NotSakurai Leak *
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]
  • Exclusion of Barrel Cannon, Tiki's Tear, or Baby Yoshi items
  • Exclusion of Lor Starcutter (Wii U), Pokemon World Tournament (3DS), Chimera Factory (3DS), 8-Bit Ice Climber (Wii U and 3DS), Prison Island (Wii U) stages
  • Inclusion of any Melee stage aside from Battlefield and Final Destination
  • Exclusion of Sallya, Tails or Magnus Assist Trophies
  • Exclusion of My Unit, Shulk, or Ridley
  • Inclusion of Pokemon who is not playable in Brawl or Mewtwo, or Roy or Young Link
  • Inclusion of another Mario character
  • Exclusion of Dr. Mario skin for Mario
OP: http://pastebin.com/gW9q1daE
[/COLLAPSE]
Four Revealed Newcomer Info Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]
  • Any listed move for Villager, WFT, Mega Man and Rosalina behaving opposite to description
  • Exclusion of Sheik transformation
  • Phantom being anything but an Assist Trophy
OP: http://pastebin.com/tfirfp3K
[/COLLAPSE]
Illiterate Leak (#1) *
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]
  • Exclusion of Lor Starcutter (Wii U), Pokemon World Tournament (3DS), or Prison Island (Wii U) stages
  • Exclusion of Rosalina (lol), Little Mac, Mii, Shulk, Anna, Pacman, Palutena, Mewtwo, Ness, Dedede (lol), Jigglypuff, Yoshi, Ganondorf or Falco
OP: http://pastebin.com/WRXmEfyU
[/COLLAPSE]
Generic Short New Namco Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]
  • Exclusion of Mii, Ike, Ness, ROB, Little Mac, K. Rool, Mewtwo
OP: http://pastebin.com/cZ8qH1Dj
[/COLLAPSE]
New Nintendo Direct Stuff Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]
  • Disconfirmation of existence of or details about listed game titles
OP: http://pastebin.com/Fh6c8pKL
[/COLLAPSE]
Neoseeker Leak (#1)
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]
  • Disconfirmation of Ridley, Little Mac
  • Disconfirmation of Metroid, Anthony Higgs, Nabbit, Toadsworth, Kamek, Cranky, Tingle, Beedle, Tom Nook, or Hector Assist Trophies
OP: http://pastebin.com/mbwtK8Zt
[/COLLAPSE]
Neogaf Rumor
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]
  • Target release date that is not spring
OP: N/A
[/COLLAPSE]
Spacechannel5 Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]
  • Exclusion of Mii, Dixie Kong, Toon Zelda/Tetra, Bayonetta, Pac-Man, and Chrom as characters
  • Inclusion of Ridley as anything but a stage hazard
  • Exclusion of Falco, Ness, Lucas, Jigglypuff, Yoshi, or Ike
  • Inclusion of Snake or Jigglypuff
  • Exclusion of Audino as a pokeball and Lucina as an assist trophy
  • Planned release date that is not June
OP: http://pastebin.com/767X7x6h
[/COLLAPSE]
Naryol Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]
  • Inclusion of Geno or Goku
  • Roster with more or less than 42 characters
  • More or less than 3 third parties
  • Inclusion of Ridley, King K Rool, or Bowser Jr. as playable characters
  • Exclusion of Lucario or R.O.B
OP: http://pastebin.com/uVmHnZXC
[/COLLAPSE]
E Gadd Leak
[Collapse="Killable By:"]
  • Exclusion of Professor E Gadd, Tingle, and Dixie Kong (as her own character)
  • Exclusion of Zero Suit Samus, Sheik, and Ganondorf
  • Exclusion of Bowser Jr, King Boo, Hammer Bro, Waluigi, Kat & Ana, Kamek, Cranky Kong, Midna and Wolf Link, Beedle, and Metroid assist trophies
  • Inclusion of Lakitu assist trophy
  • Inclusion of Ridley as anything but a boss
  • Inclusion of King K Rool as anything but a stage element
  • Exclusion of Gangplank Galleon stage
OP: http://pastebin.com/EqViSATv
[/COLLAPSE]
Three Post Leak/Tabuu Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]
  • More or less than 59 characters in the game (including transformations)
  • More or less than 53 character slots on the roster
  • Exclusion of any Brawl Character
  • Zero Suit Samus not able to be selected at the character select screen
  • Jigglypuff not having a moveset with elements from her new Fairy type
  • Snake not being revealed in a Nintendo Direct that will announce a Metal Gear Wii U game.
  • Inclusion of Pokemon Trainer whose Pokemon do not include Squirtle, Ivysaur, and Blaziken.
  • Inclusion of stamina for the Pokemon Trainer
  • Exclusion of Dr. Mario, Roy, Mewtwo, and Pichu
  • Exclusion of a Dr. Luigi alt for Dr. Mario
  • Exclusion of Drawing Link/Young Link, Charizard/Mega Charizard X, King K Rool, RIdley, Palutena, Robin/Avatar, Little Mac, Mii, Pac-Man, or Tabuu
  • Exclusion of female alt for Robin/Avatar
  • Exclusion of Sakurai, Iwata, Miyamoto, and Reggie default Miis.
  • Exclusion of Shulk assist trophy
OP: http://pastebin.com/SXWvG2J6
[/COLLAPSE]
GaeozHero Leak
[collapse="Killable By:"]
  • Exclusion of Diddy Kong and Palutena.
  • Exclusion of a Minecart Madness (Wii U) stage.
  • Exclusion of "Ms. Tetris" (character apparently uses Tetris blocks and other puzzle related things to fight).
  • Diddy Kong and Ms. Tetris not being revealed this month.
  • Exclusion of a Master Ball and Lip's Stick item.
  • Exclusion of Shadow Moses Island.
  • Adventure mode not having a desert level, a factory level, and a volcano level.
  • Zelda not being able to summon a controllable helper.
OP: http://pastebin.com/EpGFgwDF
[/COLLAPSE]
Hyrule Goddesses Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]
  • Exclusion of every Brawl veteran except for Snake
  • Exclusion of Lucina, Takamaru, Little Mac, King K Rool, Palutena, Pac-Man, Galacta Knight, Hyrule Goddesses (Din, Nayru, and Farore), Lucina, Takamaru, and Little Mac.
  • Inclusion of another newcomer not stated in that list.
  • Exclusion of a Golden Mushroom, Love-love stick, Monado, Ice Flower, and Proto Shield items.
  • Exclusion of Another Dimension, Chaos Theatre, Popples Islands, Lightning (F-Zero), Planet Wisp, NES Pinball, and Murasame Castle stages.
  • Exclusion of Dixie Kong, Dillon, T-Rex, Wrestler, Quick Man, Eggplant Wizard, Yveltal, Chesnaught, Floette, Doublade, Genesect, Reshiram, and Zekrom as pokeball pokemon/assist trophies.
  • Exclusion of Mii Mode (basically a regular match except with only Miis).
  • Inclusion of Mii outside of Mii Mode.
[/COLLAPSE]
Neoseeker Leak #2
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]
  • Exclusion of every Brawl Veteran except for Pichu, Dr. Mario, Roy, Young Link, Jigglypuff, and Snake.
  • Exclusion of Charizard (solo fighter), Pokemon Trainer (with Sylveon, Leafeon, Vaporean), Mewtwo, Takamaru, Palutena, Little Mac, Dixie Kong, Shulk, and Lucina.
  • Inclusion of any returning stage beside Pokemon Stadium 2 and Yoshi's Island (not Final Destination ???)
  • Exclusion of Serperior, Reshram, Zekram, and the X and Y legendaries as pokeball pokemon.
  • Exclusion of Home-Run Contest, Break the Targets, and Events (Wii U exclusive)
[/COLLAPSE]
Soumynona Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By"]
  • Exclusion of Ridley, Captain Falcon, Ganondorf, Palutena, Mewtwo, and Lucas
[/COLLAPSE]
"ChaosZero" Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]
  • Inclusion of King K Rool and Ridley as playable characters
  • Dixie Kong beng partnered with Diddy
  • Online mode without the ability to host rooms or choose what items are available
[/COLLAPSE]
Sable Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]
  • Exclusion of Little Mac, Prince Sable, Palutena, Takamaru, Mii, Shulk, Monster Hunter, Slime, and Pac-Man
  • Inclusion of any other newcomer besides the ones listed above
[/COLLAPSE]
Mjardo Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]
  • Exclusion of Dixie Kong, Prince Sable, a different retro newcomer, Lucas, and a Pokemon Trainer-like character
  • Exclusion of a Tropical Freeze stage
[/COLLAPSE]

[/COLLAPSE]
Killed a bunch of leaks.
Readded the "ChaosZero" leak
Added the Sable Leak and the Mjardo leak.

Umm....Remember this leak?
"The full list of newcomers is:

Little Mac
Prince Sable
Palutena
Takamaru
Mii
Shulk
Monster Hunter
Slime
Pac-Man

Wait for the next direct and you'll begin to see this is true. One of them will be revealed then to build hype for an upcoming game."
One of the newcomers was revealed, which was Little Mac.
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Wow talk about generic statements... any of them could be revealed to build hype for an upcoming game... Smash Bros duh. this leak is poo... nothing against you... I mean thats like me saying "there will be a trailer for a new game so that people will be excited"
 
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OZAWAT4 SMASBROADERS said:
OSHAWOTT IS DA BEST AND HE NEEDS TO BE CONFIRMED FOR SMAS BROADERS BECAUSE LITTLE MAC IS DUPID AND HE DOTN NNED NIOT WOMAN IN HIS LIFE BECASUE HE IBE SINGEL AND WEADY TO MAKE BABAYS
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Please leave. No one else should acknowledge this freak, just report and leave the message alone.
 
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N3ON said:
Alright, the OP has been updated, and the Dedede/Diddy and Sound Guy leaks are now dead. Feel free to comb the OP for something I might've missed.
@ GreenReaperGod GreenReaperGod @BKupa666
Anything else you'd suggested fixing/adding?


The original post was someone predicting the six characters. Once three were revealed the leak was "elaborated" that it was actually someone who knew that information prior to E3 and that all six would be shown.
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Let's be real, there is no way he could have predicted those characters spot on. There was something more going on. When Mii and Pac Man get revealed at next E3 what will you say? It was the only legit leak besides Palutena we have ever had. All those other leaks are destined for the debunked can
 
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GreenReaperGod said:

Dead:

Journalist Leak - Comprised of a "final roster" without Rosalina or Toon Link.
Reddit Leak - Claims that Rosalina is an Assist Trophy.
ThatWasPeachy False Leak - Self-explanatory.
Wegenbarth False Leak - See above.
APC99 False Leak - See above.
Occopicus Leak - Fortanono fake.
60 Character Roster Leak - Someone in this thread (don't remember) confessed to making it.
splat False Leak - Self-explanatory.
MisterVideoGaming False Leak - See above.
Competitive Arsehole Friend Leak - Clever analysis by Groose indicates that numbers-based poster username spells out "'Tis Fake!"
Early February 2013 Crap Leak - Claims that "Mega Man is off the table."
Smashboardian Leak That I Think Fortanono Made Leak - I was correct.
legendofrob1 False Leak - Self-explanatory.
Illiterate Leak (#2) - Said that Captain Falcon would be revealed on January 21st.
Toots Leak - Leaker admitted it was fake
Character Model Leak - Some models were incorrect (I think)
Mr. Prediction Leak - Said that Shulk would be revealed on January 30th.
Hanafuda Leak - Said Lucario was cut.
Basty Leak - Also said that Lucario was cut.
Sandbag Leak - Said that Sandbag would be revealed on January 31st.
Really Short Leak - Lucario was revealed before Captain Falcon.
Frostwraith Leak - Self-explanatory.
Sakura Leak - Says that "Smash 5" is already in development by a different studio, when Sakurai has stated that SSBU and SSB3DS are Smash 4 and 5.
Sesquin Leak - Stated that Spear Pillar would return, but Palkia (major stage element of Spear Pillar) has been confirmed as a pokeball Pokemon.
Gandalf69me Leak - Admitted Fake
"Somebody is Coming" Leak - See above
Cap'nChreest Leak - See above
Souta Satou Leak - Yoshi Kato's email was soutasatou@____.com (they had different claims)
Yoshi Kato Leak - See above
Sound Guy Leak - Said Diddy would be next revealed (Little Mac was revealed before)
Veteran Leak - See above
Glass Joe Leak - Said that Diddy would be revealed on February 13th.
IGN Leak (#1) - See above
Year of Yoshi Leak - Said Yoshi and Baby Mario would be revealed during the direct on February 13th

Live:

Jumpman Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]
  • Exclusion of Mewtwo, Dixie, Mii, Jumpman, ROB or Lucario
  • Inclusion of Snake
  • Roster exceeding "around 40 characters"
  • Exclusion of Bowser Jr. Assist Trophy
  • Exclusion of Cannon Box item
OP: http://pastebin.com/7YuC2NAy

Betternet Roster Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]
  • Inclusion of Ike, Lucas, Wolf, Snake, Pokemon Trainer with Brawl Pokemon
  • Inclusion of newcomer who is not Dixie, Toon Zelda, Palutena, Krystal, Chrom & Lucina, Mii, Little Mac, Takamaru, or Pacman
  • Exclusion of any non-listed Brawl veteran or Mewtwo
  • Mewtwo using a Mega Form, not using "Psycho Break" Final Smash
  • Zelda/Sheik or Samus/ZSS transformations being changed
  • Pokemon Trainer's Final Smash not being "Tri-Pledge" or "Triple Pledge"
  • Pacman and/or Ganondorf not being shown at an E3 2014 Nintendo Direct
OP: http://pastebin.com/zTddsKWn
[/COLLAPSE]
GameFAQs PM Leak *
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]
  • Exclusion of "Super Amazing Wagon Adventure U" stage
  • Exclusion of "Buffalo Buffalo Buffalo Buffalo Buffalo Buffalo Buffalo Buffalo" Assist Trophy
OP: http://pastebin.com/MazHmmzn
[/COLLAPSE]
NotSakurai Leak *
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]
  • Exclusion of Barrel Cannon, Tiki's Tear, or Baby Yoshi items
  • Exclusion of Lor Starcutter (Wii U), Pokemon World Tournament (3DS), Chimera Factory (3DS), 8-Bit Ice Climber (Wii U and 3DS), Prison Island (Wii U) stages
  • Inclusion of any Melee stage aside from Battlefield and Final Destination
  • Exclusion of Sallya, Tails or Magnus Assist Trophies
  • Exclusion of My Unit, Shulk, or Ridley
  • Inclusion of Pokemon who is not playable in Brawl or Mewtwo, or Roy or Young Link
  • Inclusion of another Mario character
  • Exclusion of Dr. Mario skin for Mario
OP: http://pastebin.com/gW9q1daE
[/COLLAPSE]
Four Revealed Newcomer Info Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]
  • Any listed move for Villager, WFT, Mega Man and Rosalina behaving opposite to description
  • Exclusion of Sheik transformation
  • Phantom being anything but an Assist Trophy
OP: http://pastebin.com/tfirfp3K
[/COLLAPSE]
Illiterate Leak (#1) *
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]
  • Exclusion of Lor Starcutter (Wii U), Pokemon World Tournament (3DS), or Prison Island (Wii U) stages
  • Exclusion of Rosalina (lol), Little Mac, Mii, Shulk, Anna, Pacman, Palutena, Mewtwo, Ness, Dedede (lol), Jigglypuff, Yoshi, Ganondorf or Falco
OP: http://pastebin.com/WRXmEfyU
[/COLLAPSE]
Generic Short New Namco Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]
  • Exclusion of Mii, Ike, Ness, ROB, Little Mac, K. Rool, Mewtwo
OP: http://pastebin.com/cZ8qH1Dj
[/COLLAPSE]
New Nintendo Direct Stuff Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]
  • Disconfirmation of existence of or details about listed game titles
OP: http://pastebin.com/Fh6c8pKL
[/COLLAPSE]
Neoseeker Leak (#1)
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]
  • Disconfirmation of Ridley, Little Mac
  • Disconfirmation of Metroid, Anthony Higgs, Nabbit, Toadsworth, Kamek, Cranky, Tingle, Beedle, Tom Nook, or Hector Assist Trophies
OP: http://pastebin.com/mbwtK8Zt
[/COLLAPSE]
Neogaf Rumor
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]
  • Target release date that is not spring
OP: N/A
[/COLLAPSE]
Spacechannel5 Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]
  • Exclusion of Mii, Dixie Kong, Toon Zelda/Tetra, Bayonetta, Pac-Man, and Chrom as characters
  • Inclusion of Ridley as anything but a stage hazard
  • Exclusion of Falco, Ness, Lucas, Jigglypuff, Yoshi, or Ike
  • Inclusion of Snake or Jigglypuff
  • Exclusion of Audino as a pokeball and Lucina as an assist trophy
  • Planned release date that is not June
OP: http://pastebin.com/767X7x6h
[/COLLAPSE]
Naryol Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]
  • Inclusion of Geno or Goku
  • Roster with more or less than 42 characters
  • More or less than 3 third parties
  • Inclusion of Ridley, King K Rool, or Bowser Jr. as playable characters
  • Exclusion of Lucario or R.O.B
OP: http://pastebin.com/uVmHnZXC
[/COLLAPSE]
E Gadd Leak
[Collapse="Killable By:"]
  • Exclusion of Professor E Gadd, Tingle, and Dixie Kong (as her own character)
  • Exclusion of Zero Suit Samus, Sheik, and Ganondorf
  • Exclusion of Bowser Jr, King Boo, Hammer Bro, Waluigi, Kat & Ana, Kamek, Cranky Kong, Midna and Wolf Link, Beedle, and Metroid assist trophies
  • Inclusion of Lakitu assist trophy
  • Inclusion of Ridley as anything but a boss
  • Inclusion of King K Rool as anything but a stage element
  • Exclusion of Gangplank Galleon stage
OP: http://pastebin.com/EqViSATv
[/COLLAPSE]
Three Post Leak/Tabuu Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]
  • More or less than 59 characters in the game (including transformations)
  • More or less than 53 character slots on the roster
  • Exclusion of any Brawl Character
  • Zero Suit Samus not able to be selected at the character select screen
  • Jigglypuff not having a moveset with elements from her new Fairy type
  • Snake not being revealed in a Nintendo Direct that will announce a Metal Gear Wii U game.
  • Inclusion of Pokemon Trainer whose Pokemon do not include Squirtle, Ivysaur, and Blaziken.
  • Inclusion of stamina for the Pokemon Trainer
  • Exclusion of Dr. Mario, Roy, Mewtwo, and Pichu
  • Exclusion of a Dr. Luigi alt for Dr. Mario
  • Exclusion of Drawing Link/Young Link, Charizard/Mega Charizard X, King K Rool, RIdley, Palutena, Robin/Avatar, Little Mac, Mii, Pac-Man, or Tabuu
  • Exclusion of female alt for Robin/Avatar
  • Exclusion of Sakurai, Iwata, Miyamoto, and Reggie default Miis.
  • Exclusion of Shulk assist trophy
OP: http://pastebin.com/SXWvG2J6
[/COLLAPSE]
GaeozHero Leak
[collapse="Killable By:"]
  • Exclusion of Diddy Kong and Palutena.
  • Exclusion of a Minecart Madness (Wii U) stage.
  • Exclusion of "Ms. Tetris" (character apparently uses Tetris blocks and other puzzle related things to fight).
  • Diddy Kong and Ms. Tetris not being revealed this month.
  • Exclusion of a Master Ball and Lip's Stick item.
  • Exclusion of Shadow Moses Island.
  • Adventure mode not having a desert level, a factory level, and a volcano level.
  • Zelda not being able to summon a controllable helper.
OP: http://pastebin.com/EpGFgwDF
[/COLLAPSE]
Hyrule Goddesses Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]
  • Exclusion of every Brawl veteran except for Snake
  • Exclusion of Lucina, Takamaru, Little Mac, King K Rool, Palutena, Pac-Man, Galacta Knight, Hyrule Goddesses (Din, Nayru, and Farore), Lucina, Takamaru, and Little Mac.
  • Inclusion of another newcomer not stated in that list.
  • Exclusion of a Golden Mushroom, Love-love stick, Monado, Ice Flower, and Proto Shield items.
  • Exclusion of Another Dimension, Chaos Theatre, Popples Islands, Lightning (F-Zero), Planet Wisp, NES Pinball, and Murasame Castle stages.
  • Exclusion of Dixie Kong, Dillon, T-Rex, Wrestler, Quick Man, Eggplant Wizard, Yveltal, Chesnaught, Floette, Doublade, Genesect, Reshiram, and Zekrom as pokeball pokemon/assist trophies.
  • Exclusion of Mii Mode (basically a regular match except with only Miis).
  • Inclusion of Mii outside of Mii Mode.
[/COLLAPSE]
Neoseeker Leak #2
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]
  • Exclusion of every Brawl Veteran except for Pichu, Dr. Mario, Roy, Young Link, Jigglypuff, and Snake.
  • Exclusion of Charizard (solo fighter), Pokemon Trainer (with Sylveon, Leafeon, Vaporean), Mewtwo, Takamaru, Palutena, Little Mac, Dixie Kong, Shulk, and Lucina.
  • Inclusion of any returning stage beside Pokemon Stadium 2 and Yoshi's Island (not Final Destination ???)
  • Exclusion of Serperior, Reshram, Zekram, and the X and Y legendaries as pokeball pokemon.
  • Exclusion of Home-Run Contest, Break the Targets, and Events (Wii U exclusive)
[/COLLAPSE]
Soumynona Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By"]
  • Exclusion of Ridley, Captain Falcon, Ganondorf, Palutena, Mewtwo, and Lucas
[/COLLAPSE]
"ChaosZero" Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]
  • Inclusion of King K Rool and Ridley as playable characters
  • Dixie Kong beng partnered with Diddy
  • Online mode without the ability to host rooms or choose what items are available
[/COLLAPSE]
Sable Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]
  • Exclusion of Little Mac, Prince Sable, Palutena, Takamaru, Mii, Shulk, Monster Hunter, Slime, and Pac-Man
  • Inclusion of any other newcomer besides the ones listed above
[/COLLAPSE]
Mjardo Leak
[COLLAPSE="Killable By:"]
  • Exclusion of Dixie Kong, Prince Sable, a different retro newcomer, Lucas, and a Pokemon Trainer-like character
  • Exclusion of a Tropical Freeze stage
[/COLLAPSE]

[/COLLAPSE]
Killed a bunch of leaks.
Readded the "ChaosZero" leak
Added the Sable Leak and the Mjardo leak.

Umm....Remember this leak?
"The full list of newcomers is:

Little Mac
Prince Sable
Palutena
Takamaru
Mii
Shulk
Monster Hunter
Slime
Pac-Man

Wait for the next direct and you'll begin to see this is true. One of them will be revealed then to build hype for an upcoming game."
One of the newcomers was revealed, which was Little Mac.
Click to expand...
The only thing having me doubt this leak is "Monster Hunter" since Capcom already has a rep (Mega Man). I guess two reps for Capcom isn't impossible, but still. Slime feels like an odd choice, but this is Sakurai after all. Also the lack of a FE Awakening rep seems off as well.

Beyond that though, counting that list plus the newcomers already known amounts to 13 newcomers, which in turn equals 48 characters total if all the Brawl veterans return (or 49/50 if Mewtwo and/or Roy come back) which is a good number if you ask me. Plus Shulk and Palutena, my two most wanted newcomers, are in it so that's nice too.
 
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Jumpman Leak

Killable By:
  • Exclusion of Mewtwo, Dixie, Mii, Jumpman, ROB or Lucario
  • Inclusion of Snake
  • Roster exceeding "around 40 characters"
  • Exclusion of Bowser Jr. Assist Trophy
  • Exclusion of Cannon Box item
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Uh, I found this inside the original post of the Jumpman Leak:

  1. - We initially planned to include Little Mac, but changed our minds when coming up with concept ideas for him, as he was very one dimensional.
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I'm not holding my breath on the pac-mii rumor and I've always assumed Palutena was an assist trophy (she just seems kind of stiff compared to Mario's idle animation). And if they are proven real then I guess I'll just say... GREAT!
 
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The only thing having me doubt this leak is "Monster Hunter" since Capcom already has a rep (Mega Man). I guess two reps for Capcom isn't impossible, but still. Slime feels like an odd choice, but this is Sakurai after all. Also the lack of a FE Awakening rep seems off as well.

Beyond that though, counting that list plus the newcomers already known amounts to 13 newcomers, which in turn equals 48 characters total if all the Brawl veterans return (or 49/50 if Mewtwo and/or Roy come back) which is a good number if you ask me. Plus Shulk and Palutena, my two most wanted newcomers, are in it so that's nice too.
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I just really wish that they'd reveal how many characters will be in the game. Maybe somewhere in it's 40's, but hey, Sakurai likes being secretive.
 
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WingedSnagret said:
The only thing having me doubt this leak is "Monster Hunter" since Capcom already has a rep (Mega Man). I guess two reps for Capcom isn't impossible, but still. Slime feels like an odd choice, but this is Sakurai after all. Also the lack of a FE Awakening rep seems off as well.

Beyond that though, counting that list plus the newcomers already known amounts to 13 newcomers, which in turn equals 48 characters total if all the Brawl veterans return (or 49/50 if Mewtwo and/or Roy come back) which is a good number if you ask me. Plus Shulk and Palutena, my two most wanted newcomers, are in it so that's nice too.
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I was thinking the same. Maybe if it was the next game. I am also not surprised as it is a big franchise. Also capcom really likes working with them. We shall see though.
 
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Yes. As long as one of the concrete elements of the leak is disproven, it will remain in the disproven section. I agree guessing those six was extraordinary if just a guess, but I'm not making exceptions to the principle. If new information directly about that rumor comes to light, I'll gladly amend it. Dates given, if given adamantly are as much part a rumor's credibility as content. There very well might've been some sort of extenuating circumstance, but I'm not going to create an excuse to keep the rumor alive. It's not like anybody is going to forget it anyway.

Funny how no one cared nearly as much before Mac. He was far and away the most likely of the remaining three, getting him was no WFT.
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Doesn't seem that adamant to me:

http://gematsu.com/2013/06/wii-fit-trainer-joins-super-smash-bros
and
http://gematsu.com/2014/02/little-mac-joins-super-smash-bros
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http://smashboards.com/threads/all-...man-and-the-miis.337304/page-13#post-15588903

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But yeah, after she was confirmed, I figured I'd share the rest, which my source told me would appear at E3, barring impromptu change.
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You say no one is going to forget the rumor (so why change it's status) and yet the very next line you say no one cared about it before little mac. Ignoring the fact that the first statement doesn't follow logic -- the two statements together are at odds ...with themselves and reality.

The status of the rumor actually did confuse me. I'm sure I commented on it in the past ... and the Sal Romano leak is the reason why I re-activated my Smashboards account. IIRC there was a discussion going on about this rumor and many people didn't know the details surrounding it or were just spreading misinformation, albeit innocently. A user is actually doing it now just a few posts above me. If you look at my very first post I try to clear up information regarding that leak and the user Sal Romano (who happens to be registered here). So people did care about the leak and consistently talked about it, heck we all still do and have way before today's reveal. People care even more because it seems to be gaining credibility.

It is the only rumor to be gaining credibility so why be rigid for rigid's sake? Usually rumors lose credibility as time passes not the other way around. Leaving it in the debunked area is only a loss. If it turns out to be true and the leak is in the debunked area this site (and the mods) have lost credibility. On the other hand if you put it in a new area with a few disclaimers, not only have you appeased the members but if the roster was correctly predicted it just lends to your credibility and sound judgement. If false you have appeased the members and lost absolutely nothing. Your credibility is still intact. You have everything to gain by changing its status and everything to lose by avoiding doing so. No one is saying to consider it confirmed. That would be silly and presumptuous.

It's not about how easy it is to guess one singular character (i.e. Little Mac), it's about the probability of getting all of them correct (Don't forget 3/6 for e3) without one single character being wrong. Many leaks on the first page simply guess one character but are debunked due to other extremely rigid predictions. I would not consider an E3 reveal date to be a rigid prediction for revealed info since we have seen many times in the past Nintendo opts to change plans in regards to that event. Not only Nintendo but just about every game development company to ever exist has changed their e3 plans at one time or another. If you like I can pull articles surrounding how often companies call an e3 audible. Why do they change their plans? Rival companies are often taken into consideration. How much of a reaction is another company getting? What is the press interested in? Have we shown enough? If so, can we save some of this information for other events? Commonly though, the product just isn't ready to show. Again I can pull many articles citing this. We know without a doubt, it's extremely common for E3 plans to change since it's such a hectic event.

This fact AND the fact that the Sal Romano leak has correctly predicted 4 newcomers is why I am willing to give it the benefit of the doubt. No other text leak deserves such treatment because they aren't surrounded by extenuating circumstances AND credibility.

Guessing one newcomer is easy. Two and you're lucky. Three is difficult, but four newcomers?

In any case you've made your decision and it's clear nothing I or anyone else says on the matter will change your mind. It just seems really odd that the one leak that's most likely legitimate is in the same category as a rumor that says Little Mac and Rosalina are assist trophies. It's not like it would be hurting anyone or the site's reputation to change the status of the Sal Romano leak.

Again, I don't really see the point in being rigid for rigid's sake. It seems like a good way to dismiss legitimate rosters and confuse people who are reading the OP.
 
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Ok soooo I really don't think monsterhunter is going to be playable. kill those leaks!!!! please
 
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SuperNintendoDisney said:
Let's be real, there is no way he could have predicted those characters spot on. There was something more going on. When Mii and Pac Man get revealed at next E3 what will you say? It was the only legit leak besides Palutena we have ever had. All those other leaks are destined for the debunked can
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That E3 leak is fake, it wasn't even spot on. People think he had inside information because he guessed Wii Fit Trainer, he had to know because he got the name correct right? Yet he called Villager "Animal Crossing guy." If he had inside information, he would have known the name. This leak is already blown out of the water by Mac himself, since the leaker said that they would all be shown at E3, regardless of if he meant that very E3, or half there and half at the next, the fact is that Little Mac was not shown at any E3.

You know how simple it was for this guy? Pick two highly requested characters, Mega Man and Little Mac, already two for the money. Pick two "questionable but reasonable" characters, Villager and Pac-Man, Villager because Sakurai dismissed him previously, and Pac-Man because of Namco's involvement. Then the last two, one character completely out of left field and one that no one is going to like. It's not like he couldn't have guessed Miss Fit, you may think that no one in their right mind would have predicted that, but if you're intentionally trying to pick a character that no one thought of, then that's exactly what you're going to get. If Sakurai himself thought of the idea, then why on earth would no single other person be able to think of it? Miis are just the icing on the cake that makes it ridiculously pointless.
 
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JamesDNaux said:
That E3 leak is fake, it wasn't even spot on. People think he had inside information because he guessed Wii Fit Trainer, he had to know because he got the name correct right? Yet he called Villager "Animal Crossing guy." If he had inside information, he would have known the name. This leak is already blown out of the water by Mac himself, since the leaker said that they would all be shown at E3, regardless of if he meant that very E3, or half there and half at the next, the fact is that Little Mac was not shown at any E3.

You know how simple it was for this guy? Pick two highly requested characters, Mega Man and Little Mac, already two for the money. Pick two "questionable but reasonable" characters, Villager and Pac-Man, Villager because Sakurai dismissed him previously, and Pac-Man because of Namco's involvement. Then the last two, one character completely out of left field and one that no one is going to like. It's not like he couldn't have guessed Miss Fit, you may think that no one in their right mind would have predicted that, but if you're intentionally trying to pick a character that no one thought of, then that's exactly what you're going to get. If Sakurai himself thought of the idea, then why on earth would no single other person be able to think of it? Miis are just the icing on the cake that makes it ridiculously pointless.
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People just want it so bad, they tell them selves why it could still be accurate. Normal for humans. I'd be the same, but good lord I do not want Mii.
 
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Luigi#1 said:
People just want it so bad, they tell them selves why it could still be accurate. Normal for humans. I'd be the same, but good lord I do not want Mii.
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Sounds like you're doing just the opposite. You're convincing yourself that it's false because you don't want a Mii. Ironically this is why many people thought a few rosters for Brawl were fake because there was Lucas, Wolf and ROB.

Read my post above.
 
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Luigi#1 said:
People just want it so bad, they tell them selves why it could still be accurate. Normal for humans. I'd be the same, but good lord I do not want Mii.
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Little Mac is already confirmed, Mega Man was confirmed ages ago. All that's left are the Miis and Pac-Man, and everyone hates them. They have no reason to try to prove the leak right anymore, unless they all want Miis.
 
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NEW INFORMATION

So I've been asked a few times to ask our source about the leaky three (and after todays reveal, I definitely had to know myself) and this is what I've been told. "Don't get excited just because Mac was revealed. From what I hear Mii isn't going to make it in at all. Pacman is still on the fence"

Also asked how he could still be on the fence if they already have the roster done (at least I'm sure it is?). He said Pacman was already finished by the sounds of it but they changed him out because he was too simple. Maybe if they think of something clever he can get in? Who knows, but at the very least it doesn't sound like Mii is getting in.
 
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IIRC, the MH developers vetoed putting a rep from their series in MvC3 under the premise that they didn't think the character fit the game, so I don't think they'd do that and then go behind their back and put a MH character in Smash which has a similar premise of being a mass-crossover fighting game. Plus, Sakurai said he doesn't want to overload the roster with third parties, so I don't think he'd prioritize a MH rep over another potential third party character.
 
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JamesDNaux said:
That E3 leak is fake, it wasn't even spot on. People think he had inside information because he guessed Wii Fit Trainer, he had to know because he got the name correct right? Yet he called Villager "Animal Crossing guy." If he had inside information, he would have known the name. This leak is already blown out of the water by Mac himself, since the leaker said that they would all be shown at E3, regardless of if he meant that very E3, or half there and half at the next, the fact is that Little Mac was not shown at any E3.

You know how simple it was for this guy? Pick two highly requested characters, Mega Man and Little Mac, already two for the money. Pick two "questionable but reasonable" characters, Villager and Pac-Man, Villager because Sakurai dismissed him previously, and Pac-Man because of Namco's involvement. Then the last two, one character completely out of left field and one that no one is going to like. It's not like he couldn't have guessed Miss Fit, you may think that no one in their right mind would have predicted that, but if you're intentionally trying to pick a character that no one thought of, then that's exactly what you're going to get. If Sakurai himself thought of the idea, then why on earth would no single other person not be able to think of it? Miis are just the icing on the cake that makes it ridiculously pointless.
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There is no way someone just "guessed" Wii Fit Trainer, let alone two other characters that did show up that same day -- never mind the fact most of us thought Villager was disconfirmed from ever being in playable contention. Obviously the person was wrong about the other half showing up the week of E3, but considering how each character's trailer is its own reveal, it wouldn't be too hard to hold off three characters for a later day the way it is now. We have Mac, Mii's look at least possible given how we have two stages on both games that revolve around Miis; so the only one really up in the air is Pac-Man. Make of it what you will.
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I am new here, and I got to say this the strangest and most messed up thing I have ever seen...
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Don't worry about him, it has been dealt with. Welcome, by the way.
 
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What's the problem with Miis? What if the Mii moveset was actually enjoyable? They've been part of Nintendo for 8 years now (2 when Brawl came out, holy ****). Olimar had existed for 7 when he debuted in Brawl. What if they included a means of further customizing your Mii beyond what was capable in Mii Maker? Think about streetpass items: Captain Falcon's helmet, Mario Bros. hats, Metroid hat, Link's hat, etc.? What if you could really dress your Mii up into a customish character? It'd be like a simpler Soul Calibur character creator, but with a selected Mii base instead of "naked generic human" that you could then dress up with various gear.

Anyways, getting off subject. To Mii or not to Mii?
 
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