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Reila

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@ Reila Reila

Look, I get the whole "realism" thing seems pretty logical, but popularity has played a part in the past (Hell, Sonic only got in because of it.) and Sakurai has shown a real love for classic DKC. You seem like a nice lady, but let's not throw the doom card around just yet.

I should probably get more on topic...
Well, I hope you are right then. Nintendo and SEGA's partnership certainly played a role in Sonic getting into Smash, have that in mind.
 

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by the positive that the baby Mario on Yoshi is fake

but one thing is for sure diddy kong is without a doubt now locked for tomorrow

if he is revealed before the direct we will cross are fingers for a newcomer or another veteran as well
 

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More requested here. Miiverse, on the other hand, has one K.Rool supporter and five Ridley supporters. The fans wanted Rosalina and Jr. more then them.
I'm sure Sakurai has accepted Miiverse as an accurate source for information over a Smash site, or anywhere else, when half of the users don't even know what constitutes a workable character. :troll:

Still though, I wouldn't use it as an accurate means of popularity, given the disproportionate number of people who have WIi U's (although there's probably a much larger base in the past month or so due to the 3DS Miiverse. However at this point if this roster isn't finalized, I'd be shocked, so it matters not too much.)
 

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Well, I hope you are right then. Nintendo and SEGA's partnership certainly played a role in Sonic getting into Smash, have that in mind.
Well I meant for Brawl. For Sm4sh you're certainly correct, but I didn't expect Sonic to go anywhere anywho.

Edit: A DOUBLE POST? YOU PEOPLE NEED TO POST FASTER!

WHAT HAVE I DONE!?
 
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More requested here. Miiverse, on the other hand, has one K.Rool supporter and five Ridley supporters. The fans wanted Rosalina and Jr. more then them.
Miiverse also has requests for Goku. Either way, neither Miiverse nor here, and neither what you've seen nor what I've seen, represents the entire fanbase properly. But I can tell you for sure that Ridley is more highly requested than Bowser Jr. or Rosalina.
 

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I'm sure Sakurai has accepted Miiverse as an accurate source for information over a Smash site, or anywhere else, when half of the users don't even know what constitutes a workable character. :troll:

Still though, I wouldn't use it as an accurate means of popularity, given the disproportionate number of people who have WIi U's (although there's probably a much larger base in the past month or so due to the 3DS Miiverse. However at this point if this roster isn't finalized, I'd be shocked, so it matters not too much.)
I think you guys forget that SAKURAI DOESN'T SPEAK ENGLISH!!!
 

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I guess I must be bleeding from my penis. Before today I had no idea I could even get a period. Yet along knew that I liked to wear dresses.

God bless the internet and fan boys helping me to discover facts about myself.
 
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I'm sure Sakurai has accepted Miiverse as an accurate source for information over a Smash site, or anywhere else, when half of the users don't even know what constitutes a workable character. :troll:

Still though, I wouldn't use it as an accurate means of popularity, given the disproportionate number of people who have WIi U's (although there's probably a much larger base in the past month or so due to the 3DS Miiverse. However at this point if this roster isn't finalized, I'd be shocked, so it matters not too much.)
That's another thing thats got me thinking, can we safely assume the roster was finalized over two years ago? If so, is it possible that DKTF wasn't even being considered yet, which might mean that Dixie wasn't really a priority. We all think she is because of her appearance in TF, but it could be that time-wise, they didn't line up.
 

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That's another thing thats got me thinking, can we safely assume the roster was finalized over two years ago? If so, is it possible that DKTF wasn't even being considered yet, which might mean that Dixie wasn't really a priority. We all think she is because of her appearance in TF, but it could be that time-wise, they didn't line up.
She was planned for Brawl though. Whether that makes her a priority in this game or not is debatable, but it's worth thinking about.
 

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I think you guys forget that SAKURAI DOESN'T SPEAK ENGLISH!!!
Well obviously. The fact is, he definitely has people on his team that do. Even still, if he were to just check Japanese fansites (which let's remember, Sonic and Ike were primarily popular in the West, characters like K. Rool are quite popular in Japan. So Sakurai doesn't need to speak English for that.
 

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She was planned for Brawl though. Whether that makes her a priority in this game or not is debatable, but it's worth thinking about.
True, which is why I think her and Diddy tag-team is more likely a possibility.

You really think a college dropout who only got where he is through company connections truly knows what's best?
I did not know this, and that makes me even more upset with this franchise :ohwell:
 

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Miiverse also has requests for Goku. Either way, neither Miiverse nor here, and neither what you've seen nor what I've seen, represents the entire fanbase properly. But I can tell you for sure that Ridley is more highly requested than Bowser Jr. or Rosalina.
Not really. When Rosalina was announced for SM3DW, it was a solid wall of Rosalina requests. Ridley supporters get laughed off, and K.Rool and Little Mac requests go ignored. Jr. is still heavily requested.
 

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I did not know this, and that makes me even more upset with this franchise :ohwell:
Unfortunately, a lot of people assume that Sakurai started directing games at the tender age of 18 because he was some kind of video game prodigy or something. But if you dig enough through mostly Japanese information, you find out the less than flattering truth. That's not to say he hasn't learned the ropes more and more over the years, but the way some people treat him as a demi-god when many, many other people could have been in his shoes now through pure chance kind of annoys me.
 

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I guess I must be bleeding from my penis. Before today I had no idea I could even get a period. Yet along knew that I liked to wear dresses.

God bless the internet and fan boys helping me to discover facts about myself.
not sure if thats directed at me or darkgundam
 

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Not really. When Rosalina was announced for SM3DW, it was a solid wall of Rosalina requests. Ridley supporters get laughed off, and K.Rool and Little Mac requests go ignored. Jr. is still heavily requested.
On Miiverse*, which as discussed is not an accurate measurement by any means. However, this is not the place nor the proper topic for this discussion.
 

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You really think a college dropout who only got where he is through company connections truly knows what's best?
So? Mark Zuckerberg was a college dropout. And look what he made.
Or heck, Gunpei Yukoi was a janitor before he made the Gameboy.

Is he perfect? Of course not. But the man knows what he's doing. He's not stupid.
 

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Unfortunately, a lot of people assume that Sakurai started directing games at the tender age of 18 because he was some kind of video game prodigy or something. But if you dig enough through mostly Japanese information, you find out the less than flattering truth. That's not to say he hasn't learned the ropes more and more over the years, but the way some people treat him as a demi-god when many, many other people could have been in his shoes now through pure chance kind of annoys me.
The guy has still made some of the best games ever. Kirby Super Star, Kid Icarus Uprising, and Super Smash Bros. To say he doesn't know what he's doing at this point is silly.
 

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Not really. When Rosalina was announced for SM3DW, it was a solid wall of Rosalina requests. Ridley supporters get laughed off, and K.Rool and Little Mac requests go ignored. Jr. is still heavily requested.
Where? Miiverse? A place where every child with a Wii U (and now a 3DS) can go to voice whatever they want, and a place that didn't even come into existence until the roster was mostly finished? Besides, I wasn't talking about on Miiverse. I mean overall. Aside from Mega Man, Ridley's probably the top-requested newcomer.
 

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You really think a college dropout who only got where he is through company connections truly knows what's best?
What's him having connections and being a dropout have to do with anything?

For me? It works from what he's given me as a gamer and that's why I trust him.

He created Kirby and I love Kirby. Fantastic.

He made Super Smash Brothers what it is currently. With help? Sure. But still.

He created a successful and fun and great revamp of the Kid Icarus franchise? Fantastic.

THAT'S why I have faith in him.
 
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Leafeon Forever

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Now personally Bowser Jr. Is my favorite character from the Mario franchise but do I want him to be in Smash Bros. Yes, that said I don't mind Rosalina being in smash, in fact I'm white excited for her inclusion. Sakurai probably thinks Rosalind is better for Smash than some characters and we got to respect his opinion. Sure we are buying the game, but what's a game without twists and curves?
 

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So? Mark Zuckerberg was a college dropout. And look what he made.
Or heck, Gunpei Yukoi was a janitor before he made the Gameboy.

Is he perfect? Of course not. But the man knows what he's doing. He's not stupid.
Based on what? He and his team struck gold with the idea for the first Smash game, and since all the following games have just been derivative of the formula, of course it's going to be successful. The fact that it has Mario and Pokemon characters in it also helps.

It's completely fallacious to think Sakurai and only Sakurai can create the best Smash game possible and that any decision he makes is inherently good. I'm not saying he's a bad person, just not necessarily the best, and the idea that he knows what's best is complete nonsense.

What's him having connections and being a dropout have to do with anything?

For me? It works from what he's given me as a gamer and that's why I trust him.

He created Kirby and I love Kirby. Fantastic.

He made Super Smash Brothers what it is currently. With help? Sure. But still.

He created a successful and fun and great revamp of the Kid Icarus franchise? Fantastic.

THAT'S why I have faith in him.
None of this addresses my point. Have faith in him if you want. It still doesn't mean nobody could do what he does better. And the fact that people have such faith in him will lead them to believe that everything he does is the best, essentially creating a self-fulfilling prophecy: if you want to love something so much, you will.
 
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"Oh, or Nintendo Direct at 7:00 in the morning. It is early."

That's what google translate says anyway...
 

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That rules out a pre-Direct reveal doesn't it? So far only Sonic and Rosalina have been tweeted about before the Directs they appeared in. Luigi didn't get notice so it's NOT a veteran aside from Snake. So would he update with Diddy?
 
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