Oh really? lol xD impossible to catch on to sarcasm over the web...@ FooltheFlames
olikus is just salty because he wanted link to be last. i personally think that link will eventually be where DK is on this list, maybe tied with samus (imo link wins vs samus but samus is less risky), but he can't really be higher than that since even theoretically he doesn't have any amazing advantages over anyone above samus.
it's just really risky to play as him, but like fox, once people start getting better placements with link and showing that he's not a super risky pick just because of a bad recovery, he will go up. it's just really tough to be super consistent with them since a single grab is a huge problem for those characters.
falcon also has a bad recovery, but he doesn't suffer from lack of punish options against other characters that are at 0%, is super fast, has easy combos, etc.
4th from last? That's really generous of you... I play almost exclusively with Link, Kirby, & Ness in 64. And I feel Link is 3rd from Last, and that Ness could be 2nd to last... I used to think Ness was way better than him, but time has kinda proven me wrong. But... they are still not that far off from each other, 64 is really balanced and these two feel kinda the same in a way. They both have great tools on the stage (Links tools are better & that's why he's better) But they are both just crippled by their recoveries... that's the only thing holding them back! But a great player like Isai, he can make up for that by "Not getting hit." that's why part of his Link is so amazing~
Yeah, I think Falcon even with the shallow recovery is better becuz of that and his mobility. And yeah, Link's grab... almost all grabs are kill moves in this game, and if you whiff a Link grab... Game Over against a player who knows what their doing! But same with Samus to though so... hmm...
Well, yeah. My point exactly; Didnt think I had to elaborate.If that happened, we'd take a look at what the player was doing in order to win with ness and compare that with what we currently know about Ness. If he was using new tools or using previous tools in ways that didn't know of before, that would mean ness has more options that we'd have discovered and he would become a different character. If someone shows up and starts beating isai and boom with ness just because he has better spacing or reactions that wouldn't mean anything.
It's the smart players who come up with the tools for characters, unlocking their potential. Every playstyle, every strategy, is simply just someone else trying to emulate what the best at a particular game have uncovered- even if they dont want too, they cant ignore the those tools if they want to be good as well. But still, you cant emulate a players reaction speed time and their own flavor of mind games and such~
Oh. okay then~salty? me? nonsense. people have very different opinion over how to rank the last 3 ness link and luigi. So im not suprised at all with him being second last. it was basically bingo at the end. Isai the link master saying link is the worst by those 3 is more than enough for me anyway. Ofc I dont expect you to know my personality, but lets just they a list on an internet site is nowere near my level of getting angry.
My biggets suprise with this list is seeing kirby in the same tier as pika actually. I think pika is easily the best caracther, and at least both falcon and fox could be in the same tier as kirby.
Isai is prolly without a doubt the end all "Link Master", but I cant just blindly go with only his interpretation. I think for myself, based on my own feels~ you could even say, I'm really feeling it!
my opinion aint fact ofc, but neither is Isai's- thou his views certainly hold more weight than my own, having proved himself time and time again.
I believe Kirby ranks up there with Pika. 64 is alot more balanced than people give it credit for. It shouldn't be presented like Brawl is with only a single character in their own tier at the top. And you gotta keep in my mind this list is now based on DL ONLY. So that hurts Fox in a way and helps Kirby a bit. If the list was based on Sector Z only for some wacky reason then Fox would be top no contest; his laser camp spam is godly there.
I think if Hyrule was legal neutral again, Link could be a place a higher.