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[Narth]

I would expect midday, to be honest.

Damn, I'm gonna have to wait all day to get him... oh well, I'll just be hyped the whole day!

I would say before the 15th so that you can redeem them as soon as the promotion starts.

Oh, you're getting my hopes up!

 

[CyberHyperPhoenix]

When do you guys think we will actually get the codes for Mewtwo? Midnight?

I dunno, the last thing I want is for the codes to be sent in waves like the Smash 3DS Demos >_>

 

[Aeon Lupin]

So I was thinking about which Smash characters would be the most powerful according to canon, and from my understanding Mewtwo is by far the most powerful character on the Smash roster, if we're going by Anime/Manga/video game powers. Link and Ganondorf would also both be pretty high on the list. Shulk's a wild card-I've never played Xenoblade, so I don't know what kinds of powers he has. It seems safe to say, though, that he would also be high on the list.
I guess if we consider this dubbed over video canon, though, Captain Falcon takes the cake
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuEggs9UpY4

While I am a massive Mewtwo fan, that is inaccurate.

Pit has fought against gods
Palutena is a Goddess
Super Sonic
Kirdy - Yes, he's ridiculous
Shulk - Don't want to spoil too much in case you haven't played Xenoblade
You mentioned Ganondorf and Link
Samus is a massive threat with all her available upgrades
And then there's meme Captain Falcon

 

[Schnee117]

While I am a massive Mewtwo fan, that is inaccurate.
Shulk - Don't want to spoil too much in case you haven't played Xenoblade

I've already mentioned the spoilery stuff with a spoiler warning before hand for Monado Moron.

 

[JesseMcCloud]

Cyndaquil page
Fire starters ftw!

 

[Grass]

When do you guys think we will actually get the codes for Mewtwo? Midnight?

When you've captured all the other 149 Pokemon.

 

[DrRiceBoy]

Most powerful character in the Smash 4 is arguable, but Mewtwo is DEFINITELY one of the strongest ones. He's just so OP... can create psychic storms, teleport freely, move enemies without touching them, etc. You can argue that Mewtwo isn't the most powerful, but he definitely is one of the most powerful characters in the roster.

 

[C_Swirl]

If Mewtwo has a lagless Bair on landing (simliar to Fox's Bair), do any of you think it would be possible for him to create a Wall of Pain?

 

[Diddy Kong]

Most powerful character in the Smash 4 is arguable, but Mewtwo is DEFINITELY one of the strongest ones. He's just so OP... can create psychic storms, teleport freely, move enemies without touching them, etc. You can argue that Mewtwo isn't the most powerful, but he definitely is one of the most powerful characters in the roster.

True. Still think he can take down the likes of Samus, Sonic and Ganondorf, but nobody is gonna agree with me.

 

[U-Throw]

That would be awesome! If you could make the background a blue/cerulean that would be perfect! Thanks!

Here you go! I wasn't sure if you wanted the all-caps version like on the website, since your name is two words in one, so I just made two versions. One's all caps, and the other's caps on the first letter of each word. Enjoy!

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[Grass]

If Mewtwo has a lagless Bair on landing (simliar to Fox's Bair), do any of you think it would be possible for him to create a Wall of Pain?

Yes

also dat sig.

"Fox only"

If only it said Fox only Final Destination.

 

[BugCatcherWill]

Cyndaquil page
Fire starters ftw!

Cindaquil is my favorite Johto starter! Although I prefer Quilava aesthetically

 

[Schnee117]

True. Still think he can take down the likes of Samus, Sonic and Ganondorf, but nobody is gonna agree with me.

The only problem with Ganondorf is that Mewtwo lacks the Master Sword and a piece of the Triforce otherwise Samus and Sonic are mincemeat in a tin can.

 

[kirby3021]

While I am a massive Mewtwo fan, that is inaccurate.

Pit has fought against gods
Palutena is a Goddess
Super Sonic
Kirdy - Yes, he's ridiculous
Shulk - Don't want to spoil too much in case you haven't played Xenoblade
You mentioned Ganondorf and Link
Samus is a massive threat with all her available upgrades
And then there's meme Captain Falcon

You bring up some very valid points. I'd totally forgotten about Palutena

 

[DrRiceBoy]

True. Still think he can take down the likes of Samus, Sonic and Ganondorf, but nobody is gonna agree with me.

No worries man, if no one else agrees with you then I will! Mewtwo can create force fields, create psychic storms, create lightning strikes, control enemies without even touching them, cause earthquakes, destroy their minds, and so much more. Mewtwo really is freaking OP. Others may say that the other Smash characters are stronger than Mewtwo, but personally I disagree! I'm with you man.

Best Johto starter is Chikorita. Just look at that cutie. May not be the strongest, but Chikorita is the best IMO. Who's with me?!?!

 

[kirby3021]

Cindaquil is my favorite Johto starter! Although I prefer Quilava aesthetically

Cyndaquil all the way!

 

[Aeon Lupin]

Most powerful character in the Smash 4 is arguable, but Mewtwo is DEFINITELY one of the strongest ones. He's just so OP... can create psychic storms, teleport freely, move enemies without touching them, etc. You can argue that Mewtwo isn't the most powerful, but he definitely is one of the most powerful characters in the roster.

One things for sure, he's undeniably Pokemon's strongest rep.

 

[Schnee117]

Totodile disagrees on the Gen 2 starters.

 

[Chiroz]

If Mewtwo has a lagless Bair on landing (simliar to Fox's Bair), do any of you think it would be possible for him to create a Wall of Pain?

I don't think so, it already has start up lag and some end lag in the air. Even if landing cancelled all end lag the start up might make it too slow for that. And even if it doesn't then you could only chain a total of 2 together, landing B-Air into rising B-Air, after that the end lag in the air would halt you from continuing.

While I am a massive Mewtwo fan, that is inaccurate.

Pit has fought against gods
Palutena is a Goddess
Super Sonic
Kirdy - Yes, he's ridiculous
Shulk - Don't want to spoil too much in case you haven't played Xenoblade
You mentioned Ganondorf and Link
Samus is a massive threat with all her available upgrades
And then there's meme Captain Falcon

Pit isn't really that strong though and he gets his powers from Palutena.

Link is also severely overrated. Sure he can beat Ganon but that's basically all he would do, most people would defeat him easily.

Samus and Kirby might have awesome upgrades but in reality they are nowhere near as strong as Mewtwo or Ganondorf are, not even remotely.

I don't know anything about Shulk or Ness to be honest.

Super Sonic is too fast and too strong for most of the cast but he is outclassed by a few, he would still be among the strongest because of this.

Palutena is a Goddess, yes, but I feel like even in her own game canon she isn't THAT strong. I could be wrong about her but it seems like her powers are that of Mewtwo, only much weaker.

Ganondorf is immune to anything that isn't holy so probably only Link, Zelda, Pit and Palutena would be able to hurt him, hypothetically speaking. They would probably all defeat him but Ganon would defeat mostly everyone else.

Mewtwo can mind control, brain wash, teleport mountains, destroy buildings with mere thoughts, create tornados, turn back time. This is all without taking into account that he can just explode someone's mind or levitate and constraint them infinitely, or, you know, just teleport them to space. He would definitely be top 3 if not the winner of an all fighter tournament.

 

[DrRiceBoy]

Totodile disagrees on the Gen 2 starters.

Come on now. How can you say no to this face?

 

[Diddy Kong]

In Heart Gold and Soul Silver, I'd definitely pick Totodile, but on Gold, the game I think I played more than any Pokémon game ever, I choose Cyndaquil.

 

[Schnee117]

Ganondorf is immune to anything that isn't holy so probably only Link, Zelda, Pit and Palutena would be able to hurt him, hypethetically speaking. They would probably all defeat him but Ganon would defeat mostly everyone else.

Marth, Lucina, Ike and Shulk would also be able to take Ganondorf really easily.
Falchion and Ragnell are holy swords and Shulk has all the spoilery stuff mentioned a few pages back.

Come on now. How can you say no to this face?

It's not as cute as a Dancing Blue Crocodile.
Plus I'm bias towards Crocs.

 

[Chiroz]

Marth, Lucina, Ike and Shulk would also be able to take Ganondorf really easily.
Falchion and Ragnell are holy swords and Shulk has all the spoilery stuff mentioned a few pages back.



It's not as cute as a Dancing Blue Crocodile.
Plus I'm bias towards Crocs.

From what I understand Falchion isn't holy and Ragnell is able to kill Gods but isn't holy itself, but IDK about that I was just part of the old thread that discussed this for more than 200 pages.

Also even if Marth, Lucina and Ike could hurt him I doubt they would defeat him.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Ganondorf is easy to beat I guess, but Ganon is a different story. I do think however that Ike will be able to take him. I also think that Mewtwo will be able to beat Ganondorf. Not kill him no, but crush him so hard that he cannot fight otherwise.

And I think Mewtwo is a stronger psychic than Ness, or at least is better equiped to fight Ness, than Ness is to fight Mewtwo.

I'd stick with Mewtwo's game abilities though, which doesn't make him less impressive. As he could still fly around, as seen in Pokémon Stadium. He'll probably will be able to stall any fighter enough to get his desired stat ups (Calm Mind, Bulk Up, Amnesia, whatever) -if he even needs them- to kill pretty much anything in one hit with Psystrike. If he takes damage in the meanwhile, Recover is the way to go.

And for characters with Super Duper World Destruction Moves, there's always Me First.

Am quite sure he'll take 90% of the cast with ease.

 

[Schnee117]

From what I understand Falchion isn't holy and Ragnell is able to kill Gods but isn't holy itself, but IDK about that I was just part of the old thread that discussed this for more than 200 pages.

Also even if Marth, Lucina and Ike could hurt him I doubt they would defeat him.

Yeah Falchion was made from one of Naga's fangs and she's the Divine Dragon but mistakenly revered as a God despite her having powers comparable to a minor one.

Ragnell was blessed by Ashera and later Yune so I guess that would somewhat count however the blessings wear off if Awakening is anything to go by.

 

[Diddy Kong]

However, Ike used Ragnell when it was still fully powered, so it has the blessing to be able to hurt Ganon definitely.

Can we discuss though? I'm all for > though, as he's easily the most feasable character able to by-pass 's "invincibility".

But how would do against these two power houses?

 

[Schnee117]

However, Ike used Ragnell when it was still fully powered, so it has the blessing to be able to hurt Ganon definitely.

Can we discuss though? I'm all for > though, as he's easily the most feasable character able to by-pass 's "invincibility".

But how would do against these two power houses?

Ike would get crushed.
Psychic =/= Magic but his RES (Magic Defence) growth rates aren't particularly good and all Mewtwo needs is Mega Evolve into Y and there goes Ike.

Ganondorf could be "beaten" per say but not fully plus the battle is more even with Ganondorf having magic abilities of his own.

 

[Chiroz]

However, Ike used Ragnell when it was still fully powered, so it has the blessing to be able to hurt Ganon definitely.

Can we discuss though? I'm all for > though, as he's easily the most feasable character able to by-pass 's "invincibility".

But how would do against these two power houses?

Ganondorf can teleport, mind control, use many different types of magic, utilize the elements and has the powers of a god himself. He's not easily defeated (Except by Link which is just for the game's sake). I don't think Ike could actually handle Dorf.

I don't know if Mewtwo would be able to defeat Dorf into anything more than a stalemate.

As for Ike, Mewtwo could just teleport him to space where he can't breathe. Even with the "game cannon" (which isn't accurate as Pokemon in Smash definitely are influenced by the anime) he still learns teleport in the games.

 

[---]

However, Ike used Ragnell when it was still fully powered, so it has the blessing to be able to hurt Ganon definitely.

Can we discuss though? I'm all for > though, as he's easily the most feasable character able to by-pass 's "invincibility".

But how would do against these two power houses?

Ike would get crushed.
Psychic =/= Magic but his RES (Magic Defence) growth rates aren't particularly good and all Mewtwo needs is Mega Evolve into Y and there goes Ike.

Ganondorf could be "beaten" per say but not fully plus the battle is more even with Ganondorf having magic abilities of his own.

Must resist...Must resist...Must resist....

EDIT: **** it.

Spoiler

 

[Grass]

Totodile disagrees on the Gen 2 starters.

I picked Totodile as well.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Ike has Nihil though, maybe that could cancel out Mewtwo's transformation? I do agree though that Psystrike on Ike will probably do more damage to Ike than Ike can inflict on Mewtwo. Even though Mewtwo wouldn't exactly like taking an Aether to the face from Ike. I think nobody would. But yeah, Mewtwo pretty much has this one in the pocket... But Resolve + Warth + Vantange Ike could cause some problems maybe... Then again, Ike is underrated.

If Mewtwo is able to reflect Ganondorf's own attacks back at him, he'll likely win. Ganondorf cannot hope to outstall Mewtwo, as Mewtwo has too many ways to heal himself and play around with Ganondorf. I think Ganondorf's invincibility could be by-passed by Mewtwo's psychic powers however, as psychic matters don't deal with the physical body, the part where Ganondorf is invurnable. Same goes vs Super Sonic (who has been shown as weak to psychics anyway).

 

[MewtwoMaster2002]

I don't know if we can take the teleport to space thing seriously. Femtwo couldn't handle going up to space in the anime. Then again, in the Delta episode for ORAS, you could take any Pokemon up to space to fight Deoxys, including Mewtwo...

This is turning into the "Strongest Character Canonically 2.0"...I unsubscribed from that thread for a reason. :/

 

[JesseMcCloud]

But Ganondorf isn't invincible. The only way LINK can beat him is with magic that is powerful enough to best his. Typically that means weapons blessed by the Goddess like Light/Silver Arrows, the Blade of Evil's Bane, or other means, like the Triforce. Just because these weapons are typically divine in nature doesn't mean that they're Ganon's ONLY weakness/vulnerability.
Mewtwo, on the other hand, is not encumbered as Link is.
Still not sure who would win, but I AM pretty sure that if Zelda commissioned the Star Fox team to bombard Ganon's castle from orbit, Ganon would be reduced to atoms before he could react.

 

[Chiroz]

But Ganondorf isn't invincible. The only way LINK can beat him is with magic that is powerful enough to best his. Typically that means weapons blessed by the Goddess like Light/Silver Arrows, the Blade of Evil's Bane, or other means, like the Triforce. Just because these weapons are typically divine in nature doesn't mean that they're Ganon's ONLY weakness/vulnerability.
Mewtwo, on the other hand, is not encumbered as Link is.
Still not sure who would win, but I AM pretty sure that if Zelda commissioned the Star Fox team to bombard Ganon's castle from orbit, Ganon would be reduced to atoms before he could react.

Actually it's been stated in the cannon that he can ONLY be hurt by things that are blessed by the Godessess (After he acquires the Triforce of Power).

It's the reason only the arrows and the Master Sword hurt him.



Also Ganondorf can already become sort of "atoms" and teleport, he does it in Twilight Princess. Most people keep forgetting this fact.

 

[Schnee117]

I don't know if we can take the teleport to space thing seriously. Femtwo couldn't handle going up to space in the anime. Then again, in the Delta episode for ORAS, you could take any Pokemon up to space to fight Deoxys, including Mewtwo...

This is turning into the "Strongest Character Canonically 2.0"...I unsubscribed from that thread for a reason. :/

That thread keeps on creating new rulesets faster than a speeding bullet and goes through every character match up.
Mewtwo would wipe out 90% of the roster with relative ease.
9% would give him trouble whilst Shulk walks over everyone.

 

[LIQUID12A]

for power levels. I just wanna have fun, you know? Who cares about canon?

why can't samus have stuff like the omega cannon and phaazon beam in smash jesus

 

[CeruleanFlow]

Here you go! I wasn't sure if you wanted the all-caps version like on the website, since your name is two words in one, so I just made two versions. One's all caps, and the other's caps on the first letter of each word. Enjoy!

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Thank so much man! Those are awesome!

 

[Rocket Raccoon]

Come on now. How can you say no to this face?

NO.

Totodile is better.

 

[JesseMcCloud]

Actually it's been stated in the cannon that he can ONLY be hurt by things that are blessed by the Godessess (After he acquires the Triforce of Power).

It's the reason only the arrows and the Master Sword hurt him.



Also Ganondorf can already become sort of "atoms" and teleport, he does it in Twilight Princess. Most people keep forgetting this fact.

Again, because the Goddesses are the only beings in the Zelda universe capable of mustering the magic required to tear through Ganondorf's magical defenses. That's why after he's defeated, he can be sealed by the Sages. It's also why he can be hurt by things like the Biggoron's Sword or the Megaton Hammer after the barrier is down.

 

[godogod]

Remember Link in Mario Kart 8?
It'll be like that. Mewtwo's everywhere for a while and then it all goes back to normal but with the odd Mewtwo thrown in somewhere.

its slightly different in this case. Link belongs in the cruiserweight class, the second best tier(or arguably the best all around).

with Mewtwo we'll see. If he is hard to use, I don't think he will be used as often as link in mk8.