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[SPOILER ALERT] - The Sevens Squares. - A Square-Enix general support threads.

Who do you think is the most likely possible Square-Enix Newcomer? (Two Choices possibles)


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GoodGrief741

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As if Super Mario RPG didn't have a whole set of additional characters they can use as Spirits (Booster, Croco, Bowyer, Smithy, etc)
Not enough for a whole section, though.

Compare to Persona, with its whole stable of demons, plus characters from 5 games, plus SMT and its spin-offs if need be. I think you'll find SMRPG falls a bit short.
 

EarlTamm

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Not enough for a whole section, though.

Compare to Persona, with its whole stable of demons, plus characters from 5 games, plus SMT and its spin-offs if need be. I think you'll find SMRPG falls a bit short.
Yeah, but they didn't use all of those. SMRPG has enough characters to fill a spirit board.
 

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I actually think Final Fantasy benefits the most from this news. Perhaps they were saving FF Spirits for a DLC character blowout? I know that the music situation is a somewhat of a mess with that series but I cannot imagine PNGs being of high importance.
 

GoodGrief741

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From the looks of the Person 5 Spirit board, not enough to fill two screen. SMRPG can easily reach that amount.
It can't be only what we were shown, though.

Well, I didn't believe in 103 stages either, so maybe don't listen to what I say.
 
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Pretty much I think any franchise not having spirits already benefits from the info from today, also I feel that given that we got only Sega Mii costumes today could potentially indicate reps from Capcom, Bamco and SE.
 

EarlTamm

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It can't be only what we were shown, though.

Well, I didn't believe in 103 stages either, so maybe don't listen to what I say.
Maybe I just misunderstand the mechanics of the spirit board, but I still think SMRPG could fill the requirements. You have all of the Smithy Gang, the numerous original characters and unique enemies. And the Persona spirit board appears to only be taking from P5 stuff and only major characters.
 

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1.- Frogfucius
2.- King and Queen Nimbus
3.- The Seven Stars
4.- The Axem Rangers
5.- Bowyer
6.- Croco
7.- Smithy
8.- Exor
Predicting the amount of spirits for each fighter may not be possible, but I feel like filling a page at the very least should be good enough to estimate.
 

helloiamhere

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This news doesn't kill any potential Square reps... but it probably does for Nintendo character holdouts like Dixie and BWD. Just IMO. I now think that all the DLC characters will be 3rd party. Only first party characters I see having a shot are a 3 Houses Rep and a Sword/Shield rep.
 
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EarlTamm

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1.- Frogfucius
2.- King and Queen Nimbus
3.- The Seven Stars
4.- The Axem Rangers
5.- Bowyer
6.- Croco
7.- Smithy
8.- Exor
Predicting the amount of spirits for each fighter may not be possible, but I feel like filling a page at the very least should be good enough to estimate.
There is also Johnny, the rest of the Smithy Gang, Boshi, Gaz, Grate Guy and Knife Guy, and Belome. There is more besides that, but those are some of the more notable ones.
 

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This news doesn't kill any potential Square reps... but it probably does for Nintendo character holdouts like Dixie and BWD. Just IMO. I now think that all the DLC characters will be 3rd party. Only first party characters I see having a shot are a 3 Houses Rep and a Sword/Shield rep.
I honestly don't think we're getting any first parties at all now, to be frank. Characters that are already spirits like Geno are also dead in my eyes. We'd have to hope for future, smaller DLC 'packs' for those, maybe ones that don't come with a whole bunch of extra stuff. They'd be smaller ones and easier for the dev team because of lesser baggage. If we get more DLC, if and ONLY if, I could see first parties and the occasional third party like my son, please being the most likely.
 

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1.- Frogfucius
2.- King and Queen Nimbus
3.- The Seven Stars
4.- The Axem Rangers
5.- Bowyer
6.- Croco
7.- Smithy
8.- Exor
Predicting the amount of spirits for each fighter may not be possible, but I feel like filling a page at the very least should be good enough to estimate.
9.- Valentina
10.- Dodo
11.- Yardovich
12.- Johnathan Jones

Heck, if you really want to be super meta, you can even include guys like 'Mario (Super Mario RPG)' or 'Bowser (Super Mario RPG)'
 

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I honestly don't think we're getting any first parties at all now, to be frank. Characters that are already spirits like Geno are also dead in my eyes. We'd have to hope for future, smaller DLC 'packs' for those, maybe ones that don't come with a whole bunch of extra stuff. They'd be smaller ones and easier for the dev team because of lesser baggage. If we get more DLC, if and ONLY if, I could see first parties and the occasional third party like my son, please being the most likely.
Perhaps a good way we can gauge the character predictions is the following:

-Series relevancy
-Is it recent
-Series influence

Of course, this is hypothetical.
 

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Perhaps a good way we can gauge the character predictions is the following:

-Series relevancy
-Is it recent
-Series influence

Of course, this is hypothetical.
I have a different way to entertain a character's chances, that being:
*Does the franchise they come from have any sort of pedigree (fame and/or relevancy)?
*Does the character offer something unique?
*Can this character bring a new stage and a set of songs?
And with the new announcement:
*Can this character bring an exclusive spirit board?

It's more or less why I think third-parties have a better chance to join the roster in the long run.
 

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I have a different way to entertain a character's chances, that being:
*Does the franchise they come from have any sort of pedigree (fame and/or relevancy)?
*Does the character offer something unique?
*Can this character bring a new stage and a set of songs?
And with the new announcement:
*Can this character bring an exclusive spirit board?

It's more or less why I think third-parties have a better chance to join the roster in the long run.
Agreed all things considered. I really hope every character gets the same treatment as Joker. That would be amazing.
 

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I'm not really sure where this puts Erdrick tbh. Guess the earliest we will found out is at E3.
just stick with the Tansut rumor for now on.
also this wasn't the first time we had a debunked 5ch rumor btw (nobody remembers the piggyback 5ch rumor to the reddit riddle, lol)
 

Icewolff92

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This news doesn't kill any potential Square reps... but it probably does for Nintendo character holdouts like Dixie and BWD. Just IMO. I now think that all the DLC characters will be 3rd party. Only first party characters I see having a shot are a 3 Houses Rep and a Sword/Shield rep.

Same here
 

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Oh please let it be revealed soon, I don't have the mental fortitude for smash speculation anymore XD
 
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Oh please let it be revealed soon, I don't have the mental fortitude for smash speculation anymore XD
At least I can finally play as myself in Smash thanks to Joker’s alt with the casual clothes.

That will entertain me for a good while alongside Cuphead and Crash Team Racing Nitro Fueled.
 

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Hey everyone it’s been awhile, hope everyone here is doing great!

So looks like we still won’t know who the Square rep is for quite awhile. I did see the tweet by PushDustin, which shows how the leak that stated Jack Frost would be part of Jokers moveset is fake. This does put Erdrick with a less chance, but who knows maybe it is still him, maybe it’s not. I still think the Square rep will most likely be the 4th or 5th DLC character, but we’ll have to see. Until then happy speculating!
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Hey everyone it’s been awhile, hope everyone here is doing great!

So looks like we still won’t know who the Square rep is for quite awhile. I did see the tweet by PushDustin, which shows how the leak that stated Jack Frost would be part of Jokers moveset is fake. This does put Erdrick with a less chance, but who knows maybe it is still him, maybe it’s not. I still think the Square rep will most likely be the 4th or 5th DLC character, but we’ll have to see. Hope everyone here is doing great!
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Wait, so you think he has a lesser chance, even with the Brave datamine? Thinking about it, I kinda wonder if that was a red herring or something we're misinterpreting, too, after the whole Jane fiasco. Makes me wonder if Erdrick isn't Brave and is coming way later.
 

Teeb147

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Hey everyone it’s been awhile, hope everyone here is doing great!

So looks like we still won’t know who the Square rep is for quite awhile. I did see the tweet by PushDustin, which shows how the leak that stated Jack Frost would be part of Jokers moveset is fake. This does put Erdrick with a less chance, but who knows maybe it is still him, maybe it’s not. I still think the Square rep will most likely be the 4th or 5th DLC character, but we’ll have to see. Hope everyone here is doing great!
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Brave is supposed to be next, so i still think the next character reveal can make or break a lot of stuff.

Also, considering it was just an anonymous leak, I wouldn't put much into it. I will say that getting the other things right about joker makes the leak a mystery a little.
 
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Wait, so you think he has a lesser chance, even with the Brave datamine? Thinking about it, I kinda wonder if that was a red herring or something we're misinterpreting, too, after the whole Jane fiasco. Makes me wonder if Erdrick isn't Brave and is coming way later.
I think the brave datamine could definitely have been misinterpreted. After all it said joker and Jane, and yet we have no Jane costume. And joker already has a costume so it’s very unlikely he will get another one. While it’s true Erdrick seems the most likely for the brave codeword, it’s highly possible it is not him. Also I think the next character will most likely be a Microsoft rep not a Square rep. As E3 would be the perfect time to show a Microsoft rep, vs showing a Square rep.
 

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I think the brave datamine could definitely have been misinterpreted. After all it said joker and Jane, and yet we have no Jane costume. And joker already has a costume so it’s very unlikely he will get another one. While it’s true Erdrick seems the most likely for the brave codeword, it’s highly possible it is not him. Also I think the next character will most likely be a Microsoft rep not a Square rep. As E3 would be the perfect time to show a Microsoft rep, vs showing a Square rep.
That would actually give Brave = Banjo some more weight. I sincerely doubt it is, but...

God, man, you're toyin' with my heart here. I gave up on Geno and Shadow's deconfirmed. Banjo's my last most wanted standing. Please for the love of god, gimme the bear and bird.
 

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I think the brave datamine could definitely have been misinterpreted. After all it said joker and Jane, and yet we have no Jane costume. And joker already has a costume so it’s very unlikely he will get another one. While it’s true Erdrick seems the most likely for the brave codeword, it’s highly possible it is not him. Also I think the next character will most likely be a Microsoft rep not a Square rep. As E3 would be the perfect time to show a Microsoft rep, vs showing a Square rep.
There's not really anything to misinterpret since all we have to go on is that the codename for the character is 'Brave'.

Jane was found in the string dumps so we dont full know what it was for. Maybe they planned her but decided not to make her as a costume (or at all)
 
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That would actually give Brave = Banjo some more weight. I sincerely doubt it is, but...

God, man, you're toyin' with my heart here. I gave up on Geno and Shadow's deconfirmed. Banjo's my last most wanted standing. Please for the love of god, gimme the bear and bird.
Haha it could happen friend don’t give up hope! I honestly think the de-confirmation of the leak, and Jane not being a costume is a good thing. In the sense we’re back to the drawing board, and now back to predicting who will Nintendo choose and what 3rd party characters will get in. I’m hoping for Master Chief, but I would also be very happy for Banjo :).

Teeb147 Teeb147 What I meant by misinterpreted is how people immediately associated Brave with Erdrick and DQ. For all we know Erdrick could have another code word if he’s in the game. Personally I think a Microsoft rep makes the most sense right now over a Square one. As both Microsoft and Nintendo will be at E3 (Sony is sitting this one out). It would be the perfect time to reveal a Microsoft rep with both companies in attendance. A Square rep would make less sense at this time, which is why considering the next DLC character is the code word Brave. I think the brave codeword belongs to a Microsoft rep, instead of a Square rep.
 
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Haha it could happen friend don’t give up hope! I honestly think the de-confirmation of the leak, and Jane not being a costume is a good thing. In the sense we’re back to the drawing board, and now back to predicting who will Nintendo choose and what 3rd party characters will get in. I’m hoping for Master Chief, but I would also be very happy for Banjo :).
It's not a good thing at all, since jane didn't change anything about that, and just wouldve added something for persona. ;/
Which I'm bummed about but I'm going to keep open for anything. And in any case we just gotta enjoy what we get as much as we can ;)
 
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The 5chan leak wasn’t even the reason why I thought Erdrick’s chances were good. You’ve also got Tansut vouching for him as well as a few other insiders, and the connection between Brave and Yuusha is pretty compelling.
 

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The 5chan leak wasn’t even the reason why I thought Erdrick’s chances were good. You’ve also got Tansut vouching for him as well as a few other insiders, and the connection between Brave and Yuusha is pretty compelling.
Yeah, it just seems pretty clear to me that he's in. I understand why people are skeptical still, but I think Tansut was what really sealed the deal for me. If the guy who leaked Cloud knows the Square DLC, I'll be more inclined to believe that. He's not my preferred pick either, although I'm grown to love the little guy now, so it's also kinda like... I'm not about to expect my pipe dream pick, you know?

(That said, a fellow patrician Geno fan, I see. ;) Let's hope our costume comes back with the DQ rep, man. I think it's very likely.)
 

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Teeb147 Teeb147 What I meant by misinterpreted is how people immediately associated Brave with Erdrick and DQ. For all we know Erdrick could have another code word if he’s in the game. Personally I think a Microsoft rep makes the most sense right now over a Square one. As both Microsoft and Nintendo will be at E3 (Sony is sitting this one out). It would be the perfect time to reveal a Microsoft rep with both companies in attendance. A Square rep would make less sense at this time, which is why considering the next DLC character is the code word Brave. I think the brave codeword belongs to a Microsoft rep, instead of a Square rep.
E3 has nintendo and microsoft each year, it doesn't add the chance that it's a microsoft rep next at all :/
Dragon quest for smash as well any content coming to the switch would have to do with nintendo, not sony. So, yeah, i dont think it gives anything more for microsoft to be the next one.

Yeah, it just seems pretty clear to me that he's in. I understand why people are skeptical still, but I think Tansut was what really sealed the deal for me. If the guy who leaked Cloud knows the Square DLC, I'll be more inclined to believe that. He's not my preferred pick either, although I'm grown to love the little guy now, so it's also kinda like... I'm not about to expect my pipe dream pick, you know?

(That said, a fellow patrician Geno fan, I see. ;) Let's hope our costume comes back with the DQ rep, man. I think it's very likely.)
It's never guaranteed either way. It'd be cool if people could weight the possibilities without having to jump all the way to one end or the other.
 

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I think Brave is more-likely Erdrick but I believe a Microsoft character makes sense, given Phil's comments on Banjo and Smash and recently what he said about good relations with Japanese companies and wanting to make E3 big (he said this in the Inside XBox thing, at least according to someone in the Banjo thread).

Also I'd find it weird if Erdrick is revealed at E3 and is the only one, so I expect two reveals at E3 if he's not revealed before then.
 
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E3 has nintendo and microsoft each year, it doesn't add the chance that it's a microsoft rep next at all :/
Dragon quest for smash as well any content coming to the switch would have to do with nintendo, not sony. So, yeah, i dont think it gives anything more for microsoft to be the next one.



It's never guaranteed either way. It'd be cool if people could weight the possibilities without having to jump all the way to one end or the other.
Yes that’s true E3 has Microsoft and Nintendo each year, but this time Smash Ultimate DLC is around. The previous years had not been the case, so it does make sense if Microsoft and Nintendo had partnered up in Smash. To showcase the Microsoft rep at E3 when both parties will be there, plus it’s E3 a huge gaming event, it just make sense. Throw in the fact that Nintendo characters have been appearing on the Xbox One and with Cuphead coming to the Switch. It seems very likely that the next DLC character will be a Microsoft one. Unless Nintendo surprises everyone and shows off 2 DLC characters instead of one, this however seems very unlikely.
 
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Yeah, it just seems pretty clear to me that he's in. I understand why people are skeptical still, but I think Tansut was what really sealed the deal for me. If the guy who leaked Cloud knows the Square DLC, I'll be more inclined to believe that. He's not my preferred pick either, although I'm grown to love the little guy now, so it's also kinda like... I'm not about to expect my pipe dream pick, you know?
No offense to Tansut. but he should definitely not be seen as the dealbreaker. He has had 1 thing right. He could easily be a Lolz18 in terms of knowledge (aka know one thing for some random reason then be wrong with the rest of it) for all we know. Vergeben had at least a majority of base game right which is why it made sense to trust him prior to game awards that Square rep would be presented at the VGA.

Also... (and this is no offense to DQ fans) but if Erdrik is truly the Square rep then I would argue that they would more then likely reveal two at the same time. I have said that Erdrick won't go over so well with the majority of the Smash fanbase here, especially when they have characters like Sephiroth or Sora (speaking Square only) and I stand by that. If he is in, then they more then likely want to have something like... let say Banjo & Kazooie to ease the blow sort of like how Bethesda showed Elder Scrolls 6 in the same panel they showed the mobile game.
 

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Erdrick is going to be in literally every 'leak' from now on because of how rumored he is. Obviously, not every leak/rumor is going to be correct.

Also... (and this is no offense to DQ fans) but if Erdrik is truly the Square rep then I would argue that they would more then likely reveal two at the same time. I have said that Erdrick won't go over so well with the majority of the Smash fanbase here, especially when they have characters like Sephiroth or Sora (speaking Square only) and I stand by that. If he is in, then they more then likely want to have something like... let say Banjo & Kazooie to ease the blow sort of like how Bethesda showed Elder Scrolls 6 in the same panel they showed the mobile game.
Sakurai revealed Incineroar and Pirhanna plant in the same direct. I don't think he cares what Smashboards thinks. He's gonna do what he's gonna do.
 
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