Spinstool Spike Applications (Bonus Stomp Tech!)

AJDOH · Sep 26, 2015

Camalange said:
If you can airdodge or jump or attack, I guess that doesn't really make it a 50/50 anymore.
(I get your point but I think he's asking what the set-up is).

It's more of a 50/50 because of the results you get from it.
Jumping/Airdodging gets you one result, Attacking gets you another.

Sonicrida said:
Which 50/50 are you referring to?

An upair after the spindash confirm launches and puts them in a position where they either have to Escape or challenge it. However, every option can be punished if read right.
Like if you spring and they try airdodging, you can delay UAir or do a DAir. If they try to jump or attack, then they don't have the airdodge evasion factor or priority [An airdodge happens faster out of hitstun than that of a jump or attack], and you can just get the followup.

Camalange · Oct 21, 2015

Bump.

This thread was quite popular the other day

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yope3041 · Oct 22, 2015

Unless I'm delirious from how late I'm up, Mr. Game and Watch appears to be missing from the FSJ->Dair section. I think he belongs under the 'Won't Work' category.

P.S. this is my favorite thread on this board.

Camalange · Oct 23, 2015

yope3041 said:
Unless I'm delirious from how late I'm up, Mr. Game and Watch appears to be missing from the FSJ->Dair section. I think he belongs under the 'Won't Work' category.

P.S. this is my favorite thread on this board.

Hm, you're right. How about that.

AJDOH · Oct 24, 2015

Beautiful. Espy already getting known for his contribution.
Congratulations

Espy Rose · Oct 24, 2015

A couple more sets where i land the combo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUy48C7Ei8k#t=14m20s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvpLt_fm7mI#t=3m25s & https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvpLt_fm7mI#t=6m10s

I think i sd'd once or twice trying to force it. My execution still needs work.

:applejack:

Sonic Orochi · Nov 13, 2015

https://youtu.be/WpP8VUm-FvI?t=15m49s

Don't go for the Footstool after the Dair if the opponent's % is low-ish.

My guess is that jumping AWAY from them then returning with a Bair would be the best option (damage racking and possible stage spike - as weak as it may be, it can still put the opponent in a bad position for recovery).

Camalange · Nov 13, 2015

Sonic Orochi said:
https://youtu.be/WpP8VUm-FvI?t=15m49s

Don't go for the Footstool after the Dair if the opponent's % is low-ish.

My guess is that jumping AWAY from them then returning with a Bair would be the best option (damage racking and possible stage spike - as weak as it may be, it can still put the opponent in a bad position for recovery).

lmao noooooo

rip

Sonic Orochi · Nov 13, 2015

As much as I'd like to test the safe %s for that setup, it's pretty much impossible to do it by oneself.

Camalange · Nov 13, 2015

Sonic Orochi said:
As much as I'd like to test the safe %s for that setup, it's pretty much impossible to do it by oneself.

Testing anything in Smash is like a circus show :/

Sonic Orochi · Nov 13, 2015

Indeed :\

Then I see those options in SFIV's training mode and I'm like..

Camalange · Nov 13, 2015

Sonic Orochi said:
Then I see those options in SFIV's training mode and I'm like..

ftfy

But yeah, if Smash had a half decent training mode I'd be way more open to putting aside time to properly lab things like this. It's a drag. I have to ask people to help since I can't just do it on my own.

Espy Rose · Nov 13, 2015

Rofl why did you do that sooo early? :applejack:

da K.I.D. · Nov 17, 2015

because until he got footstooled and died, he didnt know there was a reason not to lol

kid craft 24/sonic master · Nov 18, 2015

Well he also might not have mashed jump fast enough to get the footstool first. That and performing that setup on Pikachu is kind of pointless given that due to his floatiness he won't die off the footstool and will recover in time to use his up-B. This holds true for marth and Mario as well......although they usually won't be able to make it back from a double jump up-b especially with a spring placed between them.

Sonic Orochi · Nov 18, 2015

Nah, I mashed.

And it's only pointless for very low percents.

Plus, the footstool should come after their double jump, which pretty much ensures a kill. The main problem was that the Pikachu recovered earlier from the Dair and probably end up footstooling me due to the mashing on his part.

Camalange · Nov 18, 2015

Sonic Orochi said:
Nah, I mashed.

And it's only pointless for very low percents.

Plus, the footstool should come after their double jump, which pretty much ensures a kill. The main problem was that the Pikachu recovered earlier from the Dair and probably end up footstooling me due to the mashing on his part.

"That was cool!"

Gets me every time.

Simikins · Dec 8, 2015

Sheik can do this too :]
http://smashboards.com/threads/footstool-into-dair-spike.425407/

Espy Rose · Dec 8, 2015

So can zss. :applejack:

Camalange · Dec 8, 2015

Sonic still lives after he does his :')

kid craft 24/sonic master · Dec 8, 2015

Unless we get him with BSBS when doing the dair spike from a spin attack...... :'(

Espy Rose · Dec 8, 2015

Unless you get the footstool. :applejack:

kid craft 24/sonic master · Dec 8, 2015

Depends on the % really. I usually go for it around the early 40-60% range vs characters it works on so I've occasionally fell victim to BSBS stealing my 2nd jump and not letting me get above them to footstool after the Dair. for the characters that you can footstool prior to the Dair though I usually don't end up SD'ing in those scenarios.

Simikins · Dec 9, 2015

Sonic's is the best, but it is very satisfying with sheik. If we miss we dieeeee

Camalange · Feb 4, 2016

Adding Corrin.

There was a problem fetching the tweet

kid craft 24/sonic master · Feb 4, 2016

this also does work on marth and lucina. the timing is the same as doing it to peach.

Camalange · Feb 4, 2016

kid craft 24/sonic master said:
this also does work on marth and lucina. the timing is the same as doing it to peach.

Can you please provide a replay to show it? Just so I can add the change to the OP as a confirmation.

kid craft 24/sonic master · Feb 4, 2016

When I get home ill record it and post something

Camalange · Feb 4, 2016

kid craft 24/sonic master said:
When I get home ill record it and post something

Thank you. I wouldn't be able to test it for a while.

Sonic Orochi · Feb 5, 2016

It does work. It's been in the moveset thread for ages now

Camalange · Feb 5, 2016

Sonic Orochi said:
It does work. It's been in the moveset thread for ages now

Updated.

Kupo Rose · Feb 5, 2016

Wrong row Cammy.

kid craft 24/sonic master · Feb 5, 2016

The way it works on Marth and Lucina requires you to not buffer it same as peach

Camalange · Feb 5, 2016

Fixed.

Corrin's I know for a fact can be buffered because I tested it out. It's very easy to do.

kid craft 24/sonic master · Feb 5, 2016

I wish so badly we could do this to zss off the footstool.

da K.I.D. · Feb 8, 2016

Bayo can do dair to footstool too lol

Sayaka · Feb 25, 2016

Did anyone get any information on Bayonetta?

Espy Rose · Feb 26, 2016

Doesn't work on her. :applejack:

Camalange · Mar 1, 2016

Updated to account for Bayonetta.

Espy Rose · Mar 1, 2016

Thx bby.

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