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Believe what? That he's got medical bills? Sure, whatever, you can believe what you found. But all that stuff and Xsyven being mafia are not, as far as I can tell, mutually exclusive. It doesn't clear him at all, even if it does somehow mean he's a villain, and that's the most you've even suggested you think it means. (And more recently you've admitted it may not even mean that much.)I just feel confused about it. A part of me wants to lynch him due to the fact that I couldn't find any characters connected to Beriberi and I think that he was just trying to say that he has claim restrictions so that he didn't have to reveal himself. But then there's a part of me that wants to believe the information.
I would not be opposed for that and/or a nameclaim.Right. Well, ****. How does everyone feel about a roleclaim?
Also, hey Xsyven, wanna tell us why the lynch didn't work since you don't seem too surprised by it?
Yeah, but I figured I'd ask Xsyven to see what he'd say. He seemed to be hinting before that he was immune to night kills, so I wanted to know if he actually knew he was going to survive the lynch (and since you did, Xsy, WHY THE HELL DID YOU LET US INDIRECTLY NO LYNCH AGAIN? )I would not be opposed for that and/or a nameclaim.
Also, was it not obvious why it didn't work? xD
Lemme rephrase part of my post, I don't think a claim might be needed today since I found a disloyal member (kiki).Actually guys, I don't think a claim might be needed considering who I checked last night. I searched Kiki's room last night and with all of the stuff that was found in his room last night, it turns out that he is...DISLOYAL! *cue dramatic music*
Though I find a disloyal Kiki to be entirely plausible, I can't imagine what you could have possibly found that would prove Kiki to be disloyal. A "Sinister Seventeen Sucks" T-shirt?Actually guys, I don't think a claim might be needed considering who I checked last night. I searched Kiki's room last night and with all of the stuff that was found in his room last night, it turns out that he is...DISLOYAL! *cue dramatic music*
Is that a ranked order?Kirby King
Handorin
Ignatius
Whoa, ease up there, fella.Actually guys, I don't think a claim might be needed considering who I checked last night. I searched Kiki's room last night and with all of the stuff that was found in his room last night, it turns out that he is...DISLOYAL! *cue dramatic music*
Given the information you revealed, there was nothing you found that could have confirmed or denied whether Xsyven was in the SS or whether he was a mole. Even if he said who he was, that would at best have confirmed his identity, which still doesn't tell you his alignment.So if we do a nameclaim or if we get him to nameclaim, then I'll be able to figure out if Xsy is telling the truth or not. That is why I suggested that Xsy go first if we do a nameclaim. I wanted to be 100% certain that he is indeed a SS member and not with Spidey's group.
The problem is, now we're waiting on the same people for new reasons. If we want an accurate idea of who the town wants to claim first, then we have to wait for Smashman and Hando to post their votes. And if we just want to go based on what we've got so far, we still need Handorin to claim before anyone else does.I'm not sure that I see the utility in not posting at all until smashman posts his findings. For whatever reason he simply hasn't yet and I don't think everything should be stalled while everyone waits on him. We can multitask I hope?
I haven't speculated on it too much because I figured it would be cleared up through the role claim (I'm assuming the mafia doesn't have anything to do with it and another SK seems incredibly unlikely to me). Right now, I'm guessing it might be a vigilante trying make up for the No Lynches we've been having? But then if that's the case, I don't know why they wouldn't have targeted Xsyven last Night. Like I said, I kind of expect the roleclaims to shed some light on this.Here's a topic people haven't broached yet: Marshy was killed last Night, and he had his neck broken and body moved, just like junglefever from N1 (curiously, no chest piercings this time). Any thoughts on this? Is there a second SK out there? Do you think he'll kill again tonight?
You'll forgive me if I don't immediately believe this.Oddly enough, when I searched Kiki's room there was nothing mentioned in particular (like the Beriberi papers, medical bills, etc.). All it said was that I searched his cell very thoroughly, checking every single inch in his cell room and all of his belongings (again, it didn't mention anything in particular unlike last time) and the conclusion was shown that he was disloyal.
So you're basically claiming sometimes-flavor cop? Meaning you could hypothetically be insane?I know that the mafia couldn't have done anything (brainwash, drug, etc.) to me that would make me think that Kiki is mafia because there would've been some sort of mention of it like a headache or something. Each of my searches come with a conclusion, Xsy's was loyal and Kiki's was disloyal. The only hypothesis that I can think of is that I find clues to a loyal member's character but I don't for disloyal members. I wish that Medi had investigated somebody as that would've confirmed my hypothesis but he didn't due to his inactivity.
We do not know Xsyven is town. He never flipped. We just know he's Rhino and he survived the lynch.Considering my last check with Xsy was right, I'm sticking to my guns this time and nothing is gonna change my mind about it. I shouldn't have cracked under the pressure and voted on Xsy at the last second. I'm not about to make the same mistake twice and have somebody convince me otherwise.