Social Sonic Says: Ultimate

[Jason the Yoshi]

It's hard to see a +200 speed stat with a picture.

What if Sonic went sonic fast?

Still can't beat the Sonic Rainboom.

 

[Luig]

Still can't beat the Sonic Rainboom.

How bout this?

Rainbow dash could come close though

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

How bout this?

Rainbow dash could come close though

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAX!!!!!!!!

 

[Luig]

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAX!!!!!!!!

Not hax.

Going so fast the game crashes.
0fast1me

 

[jaimex2]

After paragon, Mario's up b is anything but cheerful to me. #RIPWX

There are no words for that level of BS.

 

[The Merc]

Sonic: Going 27 frames a second since the Movie

Whoa, dat fast. DAT SANIC SPEED

Still can't beat the Sonic Rainboom.

What's Sonic Rainbow Boom?

 

[Sonic Orochi]

Bored so I made this

Spoiler

(I don't actually know if these are salt packets but I'm assuming they are)

Spoiler

(and no, I didn't drop the BSBS project yet. I'm just too busy with a lot of random crap lately)

 

[Espy Rose]

The small one is pepper.

 

[Syndralix]

 

[Login_Sinker]

Anyone else been watching Umebura F.A.T.? Japan's best Sonic is putting in so much work. 2-0'd Ally and sent him to losers. 6WX has been avenged.

 

[yope3041]

Komokiriki was so crisp! I think the thing that impressed me most was his patience with his follow ups. There were times where it seemed like he wasn't missing a single attack he threw at his opponents.

 

[Camalange]

Very true to the Japanese meta, Komorikiri has really crisp hit confirms into optimal damage output. I think what separates him from other Japanese Sonics though is his overall awareness. He's really good at avoiding bad situations while still creating better stage positioning for himself.

 

[ToonKake]

Anyone else been watching Umebura F.A.T.? Japan's best Sonic is putting in so much work. 2-0'd Ally and sent him to losers. 6WX has been avenged.

YASSSSSSSSSSS Ma Dude also btw could u send me the Stream by any chance ? thx !

 

[Login_Sinker]

YASSSSSSSSSSS Ma Dude also btw could u send me the Stream by any chance ? thx !

http://www.twitch.tv/shi_gaming

 

[Luig]

So, 8 or 9 days till the SMM patch.

I think its a balance patch, its been a while, and every patch we've had that adds a stage or character has been a balance patch.

Prepare yourself.

 

[ToonKake]

So, 8 or 9 days till the SMM patch.

I think its a balance patch, its been a while, and every patch we've had that adds a stage or character has been a balance patch.

Prepare yourself.

i think theres gonna be Wayy more in the Patch Maybe were gonna find out the winner of the ballot before hand or a Direct by the 3rd... so who knows ?

 

[Furret]

Oh hi everyone

There are no words for that level of BS.

the real BS past was the fact he fell out of it first hit. If the full super jump punch or even half of it connected it wouldn't have killed. I wonder if 6wx misjudged the situation and thought Uair was guaranteed even though mario was about 10% away from it having enough hitstun.

The only really disgusting part was someone put it in their top 10 plays for the tournament

Komokiriki was so crisp! I think the thing that impressed me most was his patience with his follow ups. There were times where it seemed like he wasn't missing a single attack he threw at his opponents.

I'm happy I wasn't the only one thinking of crisp when watching the kid

So, 8 or 9 days till the SMM patch.

I think its a balance patch, its been a while, and every patch we've had that adds a stage or character has been a balance patch.

Prepare yourself.

you know balance patches are always a mixed bag as someone who likes to play sonic and zelda

 

[Login_Sinker]

Who's ready to get nerfed again?

 

[Syndralix]

I don't mind getting nerfed

said no one ever.

 

[Damandatwin]

I'd be super pissed if we got nerfed again, especially if Sheik got no meaningful nerfs to soften the blow. I would say Sakurai is not dumb enough to do that, but then again that's exactly what happened last patch...

Also Komorikiri is so good, I'm learning a lot from watching his sets. In particular he is great at up throw combos (I never knew about upthrow to bair at very low %), he rarely spindashes into peoples' shield and is great at covering ledge get-up options. Only problem I'm really seeing is that he barely ever goes offstage to edgeguard (I don't think I've ever seen him go for the dair spike offstage).

 

[Camalange]

I knew you could Uthrow > Bair at 0, but I didn't know how many characters it was guaranteed on.

You have to follow DI, which is why everyone goes for Uairs because it's the free percent.

After the Uthrow > Bair threshold, he almost always does DJ > Nair, which catches airdodges, so that's interesting, though I'm not sure if a late hit Nair will get you the percent that just doing a guaranteed Uair would.

I think Komorikiri is forcing us to acknowledge that we can be optimizing off our confirms better.

 

[Espy Rose]

Nair works until around 50-60 based on weight and fall speed. Light hit nair does the same damage give or take then uair2.

 

[YoYoFantaFanta]

Holy crap, Komorikiri is great. I want to see more of his sets.

Do you guys think Sonic is even high tier anymore?

 

[Espy Rose]

High yes, but not top. Komo is really good.

 

[Camalange]

Oh boy... Is character overhyping going to begin again instead of people just valuing the player's skill?

 

[Syndralix]

Oh boy... Is character overhyping going to begin again instead of people just valuing the player's skill?

As long as Smash 4 doesn't have a pantheon like Melee, yes. Right now, ZeRo is the only "household name" on the scene. What we need is someone good enough to contest him with a character that isn't Sheik.

 

[Camalange]

As long as Smash 4 doesn't have a pantheon like Melee, yes. Right now, ZeRo is the only "household name" on the scene. What we need is someone good enough to contest him with a character that isn't Sheik.

I think Nairo is a household name now. Pretty dominantly the second best player.

 

[Furret]

Oh boy... Is character overhyping going to begin again instead of people just valuing the player's skill?

I'd still like to see a sheik nerf either way, nothing big just cutting the unnecessary
such as removing the reappear hitbox on vanish

 

[Login_Sinker]

I'd still like to see a sheik nerf either way, nothing big just cutting the unnecessary
such as removing the reappear hitbox on vanish

Or nerf the invincibility frames. God, just nerf something. She pretty much has no weaknesses.

 

[Furret]

Or nerf the invincibility frames. God, just nerf something. She pretty much has no weaknesses.

If rage wasn't a thing she would have weaknesses

 

[The Merc]

Hey Sanics

Just bought Lost World today. Haven't played it yet but will soon. Hopefully I will enjoy.

Also, who's this Komoirkiri? Could some one Link me a YouTube video to see the hype you are talking about.

Also I kind of hope Pit, Samus and Tink receive some buffs this patch. pit, it should be GO start up and hotbox increase/fix up, Samus.... Idk, any Samus players? And Tink, his Bair and Up B areial. okay, I can understand the cool down, but the ****ing landing lag?! Also, why does he no horizontal control on his Up B anymore?!

Also, I want Sheik's recovery nerf. She can go way to deep.

 

[yope3041]

Yeah that's Also what I was thinking Also.

 

[Luig]

I think if Bouncing fish doesn't hit, Shiek should go into specialfall, but if it hits, Shiek won't like Ike's quick draw.

 

[Damandatwin]

Hey SanicsAlso, who's this Komoirkiri? Could some one Link me a YouTube video to see the hype you are talking about.

A Japanese sonic player who just got 2nd at Umebura F.A.T. which had Japan's best, as well as Nairo, Vinnie and Ally. People are thinking he's probably the best Sonic player right now. You can see his sets here:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpu15uRsvI2opP78cdslj3A/videos

 

[Kuraudo]

So what do you guys think about Sonic vs. ZSS still?

A lot of people in my scene are considering Sonic as possibly the second best character in the game now thanks to how Komorikiri demonstrated Sonic.

I still rank ZSS as second or third though.

 

[Camalange]

So what do you guys think about Sonic vs. ZSS still?

A lot of people in my scene are considering Sonic as possibly the second best character in the game now thanks to how Komorikiri demonstrated Sonic.

I still rank ZSS as second or third though.

Then a lot of people are stupid.

I still felt Komorikiri was at a disadvantage. Even when he beat that one ZSS, if people actually critically watched it and see how much work he put in to get the wins that he did in comparison to how easily ZSS could wrack up damage or kill Sonic when she had him where she wanted, then people wouldn't feel that way.

Instead, people just accept that one Uair string leads to death because ZSS but Sonic is just simply too fast and because one player did really well, he must be the second best character in the game.

Komorikiri outplayed all his opponents. Plus, Nairo still won rather confidently. Granted, Nairo is amazing, but that's probably the highest display of Sonic vs ZSS we've seen to date.

At the end of the day, we had two ZSS not just in top 8, but in top 3. One Sonic makes it in top 8 and places 2nd? Must be better than ZSS...

 

[Kuraudo]

Then a lot of people are stupid.

I still felt Komorikiri was at a disadvantage. Even when he beat that one ZSS, if people actually critically watched it and see how much work he put in to get the wins that he did in comparison to how easily ZSS could wrack up damage or kill Sonic when she had him where she wanted, then people wouldn't feel that way.

Instead, people just accept that one Uair string leads to death because ZSS but Sonic is just simply too fast and because one player did really well, he must be the second best character in the game.

Komorikiri outplayed all his opponents. Plus, Nairo still won rather confidently. Granted, Nairo is amazing, but that's probably the highest display of Sonic vs ZSS we've seen to date.

At the end of the day, we had two ZSS not just in top 8, but in top 3. One Sonic makes it in top 8 and places 2nd? Must be better than ZSS...

Thank you! I wanna say this but I'm a bit tired for it. And I'm taking a bit of a relaxing break from Smash (not long, just enough to come back stronger. I've been knocked down from 2nd in Alberta to 3rd thanks to Exodia, a ZSS player) so I can come back fresh and take on the match-up again.

When Sonic is played precise and not going ham on spin dash into shields all the time, he's amazing. I would say he's top tier (or at least in the same tier list as the others that are beneath Sheik), but the problem is that ZSS has the greatest punish game that converts to death in the entire game. Sonic can do so much damage, get so many hits, but one wrong move, and he's dead against her. And his mobility of spin dash is neutered thanks to her stunning tools and NAir following up into grabs too. Her ability to convert into UAir/UpB kills against Sonic's style is what hurts.

Komorikiri played the match-up right even if it's in her favor still. Very little spin dash, a lot of running (not necessarily away, but running to be close to her instead of approaching with specials).

This match-up is why I was looking into Yoshi.

 

[Espy Rose]

Komo's so campy...

 

[Luig]

I like komo, but I feel like that upped our chances of being nerfed.

 

[Camalange]

I like komo, but I feel like that upped our chances of being nerfed.

What we should all really be doing is playing horribly for the next, like, 5 years, then just rise from the ashes.