Sonic General Discussion/Social thread

Wizzrobe · Jun 9, 2013

atangerine said:
I'm probably mistaken, but I think Marth's counter hits Sonic?

Sonic is too fast for that.

Maestro_ · Jun 13, 2013

Hey I recently just picked up P:M and have been using Sonic and was wondering (since there isn't already a guide for it here) what are Sonic's best and worst stages? Who should I take where? and what should I ban against whom?

Wizzrobe · Jun 13, 2013

Maestro_ said:
Hey I recently just picked up P:M and have been using Sonic and was wondering (since there isn't already a guide for it here) what are Sonic's best and worst stages? Who should I take where? and what should I ban against whom?

Best stages are stages like smashville, Final destination, and stages with not many platforms.

I ALWAYS ban yoshis story and FOD because the small stage and multiple platforms make it to good for your opponents to escape Spin. Ban triangle platform stages like those.

These apply for basically all MU's.

Maestro_ · Jun 13, 2013

Thanks a lot!

Big fan, btw.

Mr.Jackpot · Jun 17, 2013

Quick question, where/when is the spike hitbox on Sonic's fair?

GunBlaze · Jun 17, 2013

Meteor, on the heel.

The spike is Dair, exactly at the beggining

Solharath · Jun 25, 2013

Tero. said:
Looking at your Videos you probably wouldn't make much money in europe...

Hey man, I just wanna make a public apology real quick. I was having a bit of fun back in April with you, but I want to make it clear that you are likely better than I am, and it was your advice about that FSmash mixup that got me to calm down and take back a match I was throwing away this weekend.

Shoutouts to Germany.

Ariyo · Jun 27, 2013

Why are Sonic mains moving to Wolf?It's Sonic Unleashed.

GunBlaze · Jun 27, 2013

Ariyo said:
Why are Sonic mains moving to Wolf?It's Sonic Unleashed.

i c wut u did thar

Wizzrobe · Jun 27, 2013

Project M demo 2.6!! (Aka Project m demo 2.6 Sonic nerf patch!)

Juushichi · Jun 27, 2013

It will be glorious.

Solharath · Jun 27, 2013

Wizzrobe said:
Project M demo 2.6!! (Aka Project m demo 2.6 Sonic nerf patch!)

Anything else you'd like to share with the class? I mean, it's obvious that they're nerfing him(which is a darn shame 'cause he's perfectly beatable, unless you're Wizzrobe, which is you, but that's more about the player than the character, isn't it?), but what in specific? Knock back angles, KBG, combo potential... removal of the dair spike, or killing options? Like, no air dodge out of SDJ would be smart, I'd think. You can still double jump and try to waveland/dash quickly after cancelling SDJ, but it's a bit of an obstacle to overcome. I wouldn't make SDJ completely uncancellable, though...

What exactly is getting the nerf bat? I mean, I understand if you're not at liberty to say, but at the same time, you're already divulging information – is a Sonic nerf update that important to the devs?

I guess I'm mostly concerned because it's dropping a new version mere weeks before Nerd Rage, which is trying to be the first national, or at least a plenty big regional... Seems counter-intuitive, as everyone is going to be dealing with new changes to the roster and a lot of matchups may need to be relearned. I wanna prepare myself for what won't work anymore.

Wizzrobe · Jun 27, 2013

SuperTH said:
Anything else you'd like to share with the class? I mean, it's obvious that they're nerfing him(which is a darn shame 'cause he's perfectly beatable, unless you're Wizzrobe, which is you, but that's more about the player than the character, isn't it?), but what in specific? Knock back angles, KBG, combo potential... removal of the dair spike, or killing options? Like, no air dodge out of SDJ would be smart, I'd think. You can still double jump and try to waveland/dash quickly after cancelling SDJ, but it's a bit of an obstacle to overcome. I wouldn't make SDJ completely uncancellable, though...

What exactly is getting the nerf bat? I mean, I understand if you're not at liberty to say, but at the same time, you're already divulging information – is a Sonic nerf update that important to the devs?

I guess I'm mostly concerned because it's dropping a new version mere weeks before Nerd Rage, which is trying to be the first national, or at least a plenty big regional... Seems counter-intuitive, as everyone is going to be dealing with new changes to the roster and a lot of matchups may need to be relearned. I wanna prepare myself for what won't work anymore.

I don't know for a Fact, but I can still guarantee it's mostly for a nerf. Also, they want Sonic nerfed before having anymore big tourneys like Nerd rage probably.

Also, they changed sonic a lot from 2.1 to 2.5 so I had 2 weeks to learn the new sonic before apex 2013 lol.

And no it wont juusichi

Maestro_ · Jun 27, 2013

Project M demo version: Time To Find a New Main! Yay!

Naw, but he better still be good....

Wizzrobe · Jun 28, 2013

Maestro_ said:
Project M demo version: Time To Find a New Main! Yay!

Naw, but he better still be good....

Don't get your hopes up.

Juushichi · Jun 28, 2013

Wizzrobe said:
And no it wont juushichi

Everyone not a sonic main in 2.6:

Sonic mains:

`dazrin · Jun 28, 2013

lel

oh u guys

HeroMystic · Jun 28, 2013

It's way too early to nerf Sonic.

The most they should do at the moment is make his specials more obvious to notice.

Neptune Shiranui · Jun 29, 2013

Here is one way to nerf him; make his specials usable only once in midair.

Wizzrobe · Jun 30, 2013

Juushichi said:
Everyone not a sonic main in 2.6:

Sonic mains:

There are already basically no Sonic mains besides me so number won't change in 2.6

Maestro_ · Jun 30, 2013

Nice thread name change. :denzel:

Vashimus · Jun 30, 2013

Juushichi said:
Sonic mains:

More like people who don't even main Sonic but refuse to acknowledge how polarizing he makes the game.

Juushichi · Jun 30, 2013

Wizzrobe said:
There are already basically no Sonic mains besides me so number won't change in 2.6

Do you mean "basically no notable Sonic mains"? If you do or if you don't, it asserts that no other Sonic other than you matters really which means that you've basically ignored a fair amount of people. This may or may not be true, but in neither way is a good look. o_o

`dazrin · Jun 30, 2013

i love wizzrobe <3

Squartle · Jun 30, 2013

Juushichi said:
Do you mean "basically no notable Sonic mains"? If you do or if you don't, it asserts that no other Sonic other than you matters really which means that you've basically ignored a fair amount of people. This may or may not be true, but in neither way is a good look. o_o

To be fair, he is pretty much the only Sonic main to have made a significant splash at tourneys.

Strong Badam · Jun 30, 2013

LOL THE TOPIC TITLE

Wizzrobe · Jun 30, 2013

Juushichi said:
Do you mean "basically no notable Sonic mains"? If you do or if you don't, it asserts that no other Sonic other than you matters really which means that you've basically ignored a fair amount of people. This may or may not be true, but in neither way is a good look. o_o

What I mean is there are basically no Sonic mains.

Also..Daze is good at sm64

`dazrin · Jun 30, 2013

wizzy, cosmo is going to evo btw

GunBlaze · Jun 30, 2013

WTF?! COSMO!?

Kally Wally · Jul 4, 2013

Here is a recording from JCaesar's 2.6 preview stream, featuring Sonic. The only change I noticed was that downb spin no longer autocombos into everything ever.

~Frozen~ · Jul 5, 2013

Homing attack also seemed to have less range, but I could just be seeing things. You can see what I'm talking about at 2:55:29

Kally Wally · Jul 5, 2013

Yeah, actually, I didn't really notice it but I think you're right.

Shadic · Jul 6, 2013

Squartle said:
To be fair, he is pretty much the only Sonic main to have made a significant spin at tourneys.

Fixed.

Kally Wally · Jul 6, 2013

A significant VREE VREE VREE

Neptune Shiranui · Jul 7, 2013

If you look closely, it seems Homing Attack follows Pk-fire.

Wizzrobe · Jul 7, 2013

Shadic said:
Fixed.

at Least I can play the character correctly

Deleted member · Jul 7, 2013

Wizzrobe said:
at Least I can play the character correctly

To be completely honest, I think you would be much MORE of a tournament threat than you already are if you waited a little bit more often in the neutral game. I think you've shown us all what Sonic is capable of, but not the ideal. This is not a slam against you, very few players are able to show what ideal play of any given character looks like. Just an observation.

Astraea31 · Jul 7, 2013

I don't get why everybodys hating on Wizzy, he's pretty much the only sonic main to be ****ting on Hungrybox/Mew2King/Unknown etc. People that are hating on his skills would probably lose to those people

Wizzrobe · Jul 7, 2013

Umbreon said:
To be completely honest, I think you would be much MORE of a tournament threat than you already are if you waited a little bit more often in the neutral game. I think you've shown us all what Sonic is capable of, but not the ideal. This is not a slam against you, very few players are able to show what ideal play of any given character looks like. Just an observation.

Waiting more often? did u not see Apex vids? lol that was one of the things people always complained about. I would spin camp

Deleted member · Jul 7, 2013

Wizzrobe said:
Waiting more often? did u not see Apex vids? lol that was one of the things people always complained about. I would spin camp

I watched all of your sets live. It was beautiful in its own dark and twisted way.

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