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[cmu6eh]

well i'm very clearly not pressing an usmash on my controller....and yet it's registering my slightly pressed joystick as full blown. i dunno. my laptop is older but whateva.

y u trying to utilt with samus

 

[AtotheZ]

gotta bust them shields

 

[Nintendude]

I'd never participate in an emulator tourney unless it was like right down the street. Console feels so much better.

 

[malva00]

I've tried lots of different nrage settings and none of them ever let me move my character with the joystick the same way I can on console.

NO THANKS

 

[M!nt]

Aren't you one of those guys that goes on and on about it being fake smash. No surprise you're against everything about the idea.

 

[cmu6eh]

It's not about what I define, it's about what is registered. And if you read a little bit the info about this game, you would know the maximum distance for everything (air acceleration, distance per DI input, maximum stick jump, etc) is reached by a range value of 80. 80 over what? 80 over 128, which makes 62.5%. So 60% is the actual max... (I think it's safe to assume the 2.5% do not affect to a visible extent).

Just tested the speeds the hands move at the character select screen. Making the controller move past the 60% range makes the hands move faster, so 60% isn't the max the game can register. Tomorrow I will test DI.

 

[Cobrevolution]

WHO SAYS I'M ALWAYS USING SAMUS
IT HAPPENS WITH PIKA TOO
OFFLINE (on emu)

TOO DRUNK FOR THIS

bah, **** emulators

 

[TANK64]

Aren't you one of those guys that goes on and on about it being fake smash. No surprise you're against everything about the idea.

Because it is fake BRO.

Aren't you the guy who says he's never played on console and don't ever want to. No surprise you can't tell the difference.

#NoCondomSmash #FeelEverything #SoNice

 

[Sangoku]

Just tested the speeds the hands move at the character select screen. Making the controller move past the 60% range makes the hands move faster, so 60% isn't the max the game can register. Tomorrow I will test DI.

If you're talking about a pixel of difference then whatever, it's totally not relevant. And check with 80/128 instead of 60% since it's actually 62.5%.

 

[M!nt]

okay I did say that lol

don't you BRO me!

 

[Cobrevolution]

#NoCondomSmash #FeelEverything #SoNice

#thingsiwouldobviouslyhashtagifihada****ingtwitter

 

[KnitePhox]

i think that the difference is CRT vs Monitors.

my monitor and tv's that i have played emulator ssb on feel like there's delay vs console

basically console feels like 0ms delay where as emulator has not only controller delay but display delay because of the image processing monitors have to do.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Display_lag
"LCD screens with a high response-time value often do not give satisfactory experience when viewing fast-moving images (they often leave streaks or blur; called ghosting). But an LCD screen with both high response time and significant display lag is unsuitable for playing fast-paced computer games or performing fast high-accuracy operations on the screen, due to the mouse cursor lagging behind."

that's really all that can be explained with rationality beyond "it feels weird"

also i can do general movement and tech way easier on console

example: shine cancels. SUPER FREE on console but on emu i have to try a little bit to get the same speed

 

[Sangoku]

I can't find it because smashboards search option is pure bull****, but I remember there was a Toomai post mentioning the limit of 80 for x-acceleration.

Edit: okay, looks like you misunderstood something. I'm not saying 63% is the theoretical max for the n64 to register. It's the max for ssb64 ingame range. The hand indeed moves faster with higher range, but x-acceleration, stick jump and DI distance is max at 63%.

 

[clubbadubba]

Because it is fake BRO.

Aren't you the guy who says he's never played on console and don't ever want to. No surprise you can't tell the difference.

#NoCondomSmash #FeelEverything #SoNice

Post of the year, yes I'm calling it in April

Also, if you watch emu fps its not like it is constantly EXACTLY 60 fps no matter what computer you use. The value will change quite frequently, though "no lag" means it won't change by much. I'm sure the console also is not an EXACT 60 fps, but I'm thinking console has less fluctuation maybe and that's why it feels smoother?

 

[prisonchild]

is anybody going to impulse, especially guys like B Link who are already in Toronto?


i'm hoping no keyboard warriors show up...

 

[B Link]

I don't think cmu6eh is coming so don't worry, prisonchild. Ybombb, *** vwls, unreal, some other good console players, and I will likely attend.

In other news, I don't notice any difference in response times with offline emulator vs console. I turned them on and watched the screens side by side. I then pressed the c button on two controllers at the same time and they jumped at the same time.

It would be cool if cmu6eh could test this by plugging in 1 controller to both console and emulator (I don't think this is possible but who knows?)

The only difference is sensitivity. Unless you have some WEIRD monitor issues I am unaware of.

 

[Cobrevolution]

In other news, I don't notice any difference in response times with offline emulator vs console. I turned them on and watched the screens side by side. I then pressed the c button on two controllers at the same time and they jumped at the same time.

did you only do this once? can't really get an accurate reading if so. you should probably do it for about a minute straight, cuz of the fluctuating fps. may've just caught the emulator on a good run, but in the next five seconds it could have jumped down to 40 and then back up.

 

[B Link]

Yeah just once. I did it for like 1-2 minutes. And my emulator fps never goes down to 40 lol.

 

[M!nt]

Post of the year, yes I'm calling it in April

Also, if you watch emu fps its not like it is constantly EXACTLY 60 fps no matter what computer you use. The value will change quite frequently, though "no lag" means it won't change by much. I'm sure the console also is not an EXACT 60 fps, but I'm thinking console has less fluctuation maybe and that's why it feels smoother?

Again what emulator were you using? Have you tried mupen64plus? what adapter? Unless you have tried all these different variables, stop saying stuff like it's fact.

How is that post of the year, me not playing console doesn't mean anything because I'm not saying they are the same(because I don't know) I'm just talking about how you guys are just throwing out that you know for certain that it's different, does that make sense? lol

 

[clubbadubba]

So you're telling me that in Mupen, when you look at the fps it always reads 60.00? I'm not talking about dropping to 40 fps, I'm talking about the visible fluctuation from like 59.85 to 60.1 and back and forth like that. Again I have no idea how smooth console is compared to that, but I was merely suggesting that it could be the cause of the different feel that a large number of players have described. Just for you I'll revise my statement: I know of no emu/cpu combination that runs at EXACTLY 60.00 fps.

the end part of it was post of the year BRO. #NoCondomSmash rofl. The part about you almost cost it post of the year status since it mentioned you. #GETATMESON

 

[B Link]

Wut, this is possible already?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFKE9iocZQo

 

[Sangoku]

What are you talking about? If it's the hitbox mode, yeah it appears the Japanese have freely access to it. Don't you remember Frame Display? Check out that video on the same channel.

 

[B Link]

True, for some reason I didn't think they could play training mode with it though.

 

[M!nt]

So you're telling me that in Mupen, when you look at the fps it always reads 60.00? I'm not talking about dropping to 40 fps, I'm talking about the visible fluctuation from like 59.85 to 60.1 and back and forth like that. Again I have no idea how smooth console is compared to that, but I was merely suggesting that it could be the cause of the different feel that a large number of players have described. Just for you I'll revise my statement: I know of no emu/cpu combination that runs at EXACTLY 60.00 fps.

So you don't know of any emulators that run at 60(I doubt you've even looked) and you don't know if the console runs at 60. good post, really informative.

 

[clubbadubba]

My bad, thought we were just joking around. didn't mean to offend

No I don't know if the console is smoother (closer to constant 60 fps). I'm just noting another potential difference between console/emulator, since people have been discussing what might cause the different feel. Not meant to be informative, just to suggest something that someone cooler than me might investigate and make an informative post about it.

 

[M!nt]

Oh I'm sorry :C I didn't know you were just joking. Okay I understand c:

 

[SheerMadness]

Offline pj64 runs pretty amazingly IMO.

 

[B Link]

So today I played some console friendlies with Vwls and his friend.

Consequently, I think **** DI is the best, as long as you take out your start button. Makes it a lot easier to get out of jiggly dair, falcon combos etc.

The only time I don't do it is when I'm feeling lazy

 

[kys]

So today I played some console friendlies with Vwls and his friend.

Consequently, I think **** DI is the best, as long as you take out your start button. Makes it a lot easier to get out of jiggly dair, falcon combos etc.

The only time I don't do it is when I'm feeling lazy

Why would you take out your start button? It's way better than DI for breaking out of combos.

 

[Nintendude]

B Link are you and the other Toronto players in the ECSSB group yet?
http://www.facebook.com/groups/134497873392355/?fref=ts

 

[TANK64]

^^lol xD

yo but FOR REAL

Talyor Swift concert was the bomb diggity.

JUST got back.

Like I can't even put it into words.

Oh and Ed Sheeran's set before her was godly also

<333

 

[B Link]

Banze is streaming his Brazilian tourney tomorrow: http://smashboards.com/threads/braz...nal-form-april-14th-2013-sÃo-paulo-sp.334813/

B Link are you and the other Toronto players in the ECSSB group yet?
http://www.facebook.com/groups/134497873392355/?fref=ts

What's it for? Just meeting players?

^^lol xD

yo but FOR REAL

Talyor Swift concert was the bomb diggity.

JUST got back.

Like I can't even put it into words.

Oh and Ed Sheeran's set before her was godly also

<333

What a dedicated SWIFT FAN

 

[jimmyjoe]

Yo seriously? None of you ****ers have a broken hori pad to sell?
Battlecow, I know you have this.

 

[Battlecow]

eh shipping it sounds like a pain lol

Ooh baby I like it rawwwwww

 

[clubbadubba]

^^lol xD

yo but FOR REAL

Talyor Swift concert was the bomb diggity.

JUST got back.

Like I can't even put it into words.

Oh and Ed Sheeran's set before her was godly also

<333

duuuuuuuuude i'm so pumped I'm going next month!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i knew it was gonna be good but its great to hear it was sick. can't ****ing wait!!!!

 

[Nintendude]

What's it for? Just meeting players?

Finding players, organizing smashfests, and just growing the scene in general. It's a lot easier to recruit new players when there's a centralized facebook location for everyone to keep in touch, especially because you can't expect newcomers to have smashboards accounts.

 

[TANK64]

duuuuuuuuude i'm so pumped I'm going next month!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i knew it was gonna be good but its great to hear it was sick. can't ****ing wait!!!!

Dude def. Not even hyping. But it'll be amazing =D

Finding players, organizing smashfests, and just growing the scene in general. It's a lot easier to recruit new players when there's a centralized facebook location for everyone to keep in touch, especially because you can't expect newcomers to have smashboards accounts.

^^This
Totally agree.

 

[¨°PÞ-§°¨ Bane]

**** you, I didn't even say anything bad about you. neither you or the little stupid twitter hashtags are funny.

rofl would the old mint have ever said that?? i think you're changing you devil

 

[SSBPete]

console and offline emu definitely feel different

im gonna see tay next time she comes to aus

 

[jimmyjoe]

eh shipping it sounds like a pain lol

Ooh baby I like it rawwwwww

Come on brooooo!!
Just let me know what I have to do to sweeten the deal.
I'll obviously pay the shipping and give you some money for your trouble.
I mean you could sell it to me at the next apex but I could use some parts asap to fix mine.