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He's actually a main character in SMRPG. He's basically a side character in the Mario universe due to SMRPG being a side game. A lot seem to misunderstand his role in the game. He's actually very important to the story overall. The only character in SMRPG who basically brings little to the main story is Peach and that's it. Geno, Mallow, Mario, and Bowser contribute a lot to the overall part of it. Mallow's own story is a bit separated from the core one, but is a big story too.

It's been a while, so I don't remember the exact details of how Geno's star-related stuff ties to Smithy. I think it was that stars control wishes, and Smithy's actions take away the overall wishes. This leaves everybody, even other villains, in a bad position. So it's basically a cataclysmic event for Geno's own job. Mario is just fighting the villain. Bowser wants his castle back. Peach got rescued by the rest of the crew and is helping cause why the hell not.
I never considered him that important since he took a backseat to the story after his introduction scene. Every other character had incredible scenes and lines. But Geno? He was just kinda there. Sure Geno had an important role to the story, but his character felt undeveloped and by the end of the game I wasn't as invested in him as I was with the rest of the cast. I liked SMRPG when I played it but as time went on I played more RPGs, including newer Mario RPGs, and I forgot about Geno until I saw him in Smash speculation. It just seemed so.... odd to me that people are still asking for this character despite how relatively unimportant he is to the series overall. If he was a first party character I'd give it a pass, but he isn't. He's a third party character, one that comes from a company that is hard to work with. The character has no legacy and there is absolutely no reason to add him besides fan demand.
 

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Eh. I wouldn’t complain. But I feel like he would be weird with Sonic’s special attacks. Even more so than Shadow.
I mean the dude was created to be a match for Sonic, so it’d make sense to have knowledge of those moves, and there could be some changes like :ultdarksamus:‘s movement changes, electrical properties to his attacks as well as maybe changing his side special to his electric dash attack from the Stardust Speedway fights or have a Jet Boost for up special witch would be similar, just without the spring and does damage like one of Sonic’s customs. The only other character I could see as Sonic’s echo is Blaze.
 

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So I just got home from Spider-Man: Far From Home. It was a great time. But it didn’t really.... grab me. I don’t know. I was constantly laughing. But I never got really into it or excited.
Mysterio was a cool villain, and he pulled off his illusion of heroism very well. And the one time he went all out with the illusions. My god that looked cool.

I wish that they would have just shut the **** up about the god damn blip though! The last thing I wanted was to be reminded of that garbage. I kind of just want to ignore Endgame now. Pretend like it never happened (what they should have done). Thankfully the rest of the movie pulled me out of that funk. But now that it’s over my mind just keeps coming back to it and I’m just angry again.

And those post credit scenes! Fury in space? That’s interesting. Would like to know WHY he’s in space cause by itself it doesn’t really get me excited. But JJJ? God it makes me so mad. I feel like I know the exact plot they’re gonna do with it because it happens in almost every piece of superhero media. And I hate it every time they do it. It doesn’t get me excited. It just makes me mad. Seeing JK Simmons back was cool, but that alone didn’t save that garbage decision. And I hope I’m wrong about where 3 goes.

But other than my personal hang ups, it was a really good movie. Probably A or B tier as far as Marvel movies go.
 
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In what way? I'm kind of confused. I guess he could get like individual DLC which I wouldn't dislike and I'd definitely take but I'd like for Geno to be given the same treatment Joker and the rest of the FP will be getting.
I mean he could get similar treatment to the third party DLC in the last game with a stage and music and such.
 

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I never considered him that important since he took a backseat to the story after his introduction scene. Every other character had incredible scenes and lines. But Geno? He was just kinda there. Sure Geno had an important role to the story, but his character felt undeveloped and by the end of the game I wasn't as invested in him as I was with the rest of the cast. I liked SMRPG when I played it but as time went on I played more RPGs, including newer Mario RPGs, and I forgot about Geno until I saw him in Smash speculation. It just seemed so.... odd to me that people are still asking for this character despite how relatively unimportant he is to the series overall. If he was a first party character I'd give it a pass, but he isn't. He's a third party character, one that comes from a company that is hard to work with. The character has no legacy and there is absolutely no reason to add him besides fan demand.
There's no question they could've handled him better. He's no less a main character of the story, but yeah, they didn't give him much development at all either. It's pretty disappointing in that regard. A remake could do a great job in that. Perhaps do a bit more with Peach, like maybe a small side story with her, even before the main story began?

Also, Sakuria has said he wanted the character in since Brawl. He separately said he made him a costume because of fan demand. It's not really clear if he wanted him in Brawl due to fan demand, or cause he liked the character. There were character polls(during Melee's development) that had Geno on it, so that might be part of why. I guess he might say more if he becomes playable, or if his costume re-releases?
 

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Funnily enough I actually liked Far From Home way more then Endgame. Its ironic too what I wanted to see in Endgame I got in Far From Home. The way I see the movie its basically and epilogue to the Infinity Era.

Among my favorite movies this year so far only beaten by Godzilla 2, Missing Link and Crawl.
 
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I mean the dude was created to be a match for Sonic, so it’d make sense to have knowledge of those moves, and there could be some changes like :ultdarksamus:‘s movement changes, electrical properties to his attacks as well as maybe changing his side special to his electric dash attack from the Stardust Speedway fights or have a Jet Boost for up special witch would be similar, just without the spring and does damage like one of Sonic’s customs. The only other character I could see as Sonic’s echo is Blaze.
It’s the rolling into a ball that’s got me stuck. Metal doesn’t really do that and it would be weird if he did IMO.
 

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Geno does have some personality.

He shows traits of kindness, seriousness, smarts, trying to be cool/cockiness, and a bit of goofiness.

Examples:

  • *doses off for a moment while going through the forest maze*
  • *is sweet to Gaz*
  • *is serious to Peach and at other times*
  • *convinces Bowser to continue with them in the Factory*
  • “YO, SMITHY!”
  • *is hesitant to leave his friends*

Also his design is heccin’ cool.
 
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I like to think that in some alternate reality, the complete Forbidden Seven all managed to reunite and get in. Toon Zelda and Toon Sheik/Tetra would have been a really nice addition this around.

KingofPhantoms KingofPhantoms Right?

Geno does have some personality.

He shows traits of kindness, seriousness, trying to be cool/cockiness, and a bit of goofiness.

Examples:

  • *doses off for a moment while going through the forest maze*
  • *is sweet to Gaz*
  • *is serious to Peach and at other times*
  • “YO, SMITHY!”
  • *is hesitant to leave his friends*

Also his design is heccin’ cool.
If anything, it's the design that gets me. He's just so visually different than most Mario characters, I can't find it boring.
 

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Geno does have some personality.

He shows traits of kindness, seriousness, smarts, trying to be cool/cockiness, and a bit of goofiness.

Examples:

  • *doses off for a moment while going through the forest maze*
  • *is sweet to Gaz*
  • *is serious to Peach and at other times*
  • *convinces Bowser to continue with them in the Factory*
  • “YO, SMITHY!”
  • *is hesitant to leave his friends*

Also his design is heccin’ cool.
To be fair, Wunderwaft said "undeveloped". Geno barely gets any development during the story. They explain his backstory, but beyond that, he's just cool on his own. He doesn't have character growth beyond the literal RPG part. So I can see where he's coming from in that particular regard.

I love the character, though~
 

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So I just got home from Spider-Man: Far From Home. It was a great time. But it didn’t really.... grab me. I don’t know. I was constantly laughing. But I never got really into it or excited.
Mysterio was a cool villain, and he pulled off his illusion of heroism very well. And the one time he went all out with the illusions. My god that looked cool.

I wish that they would have just shut the **** up about the god damn blip though! The last thing I wanted was to be reminded of that garbage. I kind of just want to ignore Endgame now. Pretend like it never happened (what they should have done). Thankfully the rest of the movie pulled me out of that funk. But now that it’s over my mind just keeps coming back to it and I’m just angry again.

And those post credit scenes! Fury in space? That’s interesting. Would like to know WHY he’s in space cause by itself it doesn’t really get me excited. But JJJ? God it makes me so mad. I feel like I know the exact plot they’re gonna do with it because it happens in almost every piece of superhero media. And I hate it every time they do it. It doesn’t get me excited. It just makes me mad. Seeing JK Simmons back was cool, but that alone didn’t save that garbage decision. And I hope I’m wrong about where 3 goes.

But other than my personal hang ups, it was a really good movie. Probably A or B tier as far as Marvel movies go.
Endgame
Garbage


You’re cruisin for a bruisin
 

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To be fair, Wunderwaft said "undeveloped". Geno barely gets any development during the story. They explain his backstory, but beyond that, he's just cool on his own. He doesn't have character growth beyond the literal RPG part. So I can see where he's coming from in that particular regard.

I love the character, though~
That’s true tbh.

At least he developed the realization he shouldn’t work alone and some good friendships before Star Road forced him to leave :shades:
 

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If anything, it's amazing how out of all the MCU properties that actively tries to attach itself to the events of all the movies up to that point as well as making the plot happen due to direct consequences of Avengers movies, it's Spider-Man, the one Marvel still has no full control over... :yoshi:
 

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Man seems I wasn't the only one who didn't find Endgame underwhelming though I would say IMO it was far from garbage.

Just okay IMO.

On top of the treatment of a certain character. There's also how not much happened during the 1st and 2nd act. I went in expecting some massive epic grand combination of time travel and space adventure only to get that in the 3rd act and final battle while Infinity War was better I thought it was flawed but entertaining never the less.
 

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That's fine. Although, to the movie's credit, it was meant to be dark and depressing at least to some degree.
So.... they did a bad thing on purpose. That doesn’t make it better. It makes it worse.

I still feel like that movie just made so many wrong decisions to the point that not even
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got me hyped. I was just sad.
 

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That's fine. Although, to the movie's credit, it was meant to be dark and depressing at least to some degree.
You mean besides having the usual jokey jokes and

Professor Hulk taking selfies with girls?

That's sooo totally depressing. I said it before but this movie should had been an exception with the jokey jokes and done levity similar to The Empire Strikes Back but obviously GA is too attained to the usual MCU formula to change that otherwise it wouldn't be a hit.

I mean we were talking about a serious situation where 50% of all life is gone. How do you go to that and not be serious and dark about it?
 
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So.... they did a bad thing on purpose. That doesn’t make it better. It makes it worse.

I still feel like that movie just made so many wrong decisions to the point that not even
Captain Hammer Bro
got me hyped. I was just sad.
It wasn’t bad you just didn’t like it

What did you really expect? Half of the ****ing universe has been obliterated, did you want it to be sunshine and rainbows?
What list. You’re too nice to hurt me.
Don’t worry about that right now
 

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You mean besides having the usual jokey jokes and

Professor Hulk taking selfies with girls?

That's sooo totally depressing. I said it before but this movie should had been an exception with the jokey jokes and done levity similar to The Empire Strikes Back but obviously GA is too attained to the usual MCU formula to change that otherwise it wouldn't be a hit.

I mean we were talking about a serious situation where 50% of all life is gone. How do you go to that and not be serious and dark about it?
Hey. Don’t get me wrong, I didn’t like it. But you seem to have a thing against levity.
 

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Eh. I wouldn’t complain. But I feel like he would be weird with Sonic’s special attacks. Even more so than Shadow.

Your opinions on Raichu and Impa.... don’t really register with me. I see no reason why they can’t work as echoes. Especially if this is their only chance at getting in currently. Plus.... Hilda? Really? She’s a one off character. She’s not that important to her home series. I’d just rather see these two here. Who really cares if they’re 100% unique. Or even semi-clones. People wanted Daisy and Dark Samus to be unique. Oh well.

Shadow is an Assist trophy. Spirits might not reconfirm necessarily, but they certainly do. Shadow is pretty much permanently excluded from Ultimate. And I don’t really think any other Sonic characters would work as echoes of him.

There is no reason for Naked Snake to be anything other than a costume. He even uses the same voice lines. Heck, not quite the same era, but his final Smash was invented BY venom snake. Liquid is the better choice.

If we HAVE to have another third party echo.... Zack Fair? Ms. Pac-Man? Protoman?

Medusa I’d be down for. She was almost on my list, but I wanted to limit it to 6.

I was told a few days ago that Celica is too different to work as a robin echo. Primarily because she doesn’t even use tomes.
I disagree so hard with "who really cares if they're unique."
Echoes should be characters who at their core make sense being based heavily on another character. Like, I think Waluigi would make a cool character, but I wouldn't want him to be a Luigi echo just for the sake of him being in the game, I wouldn't support a campaign for that. Likewise, I don't see Impa having Sheik's moveset making sense and Raichu could be so much more interesting that "slightly bigger Pikachu."
 

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Hey. Don’t get me wrong, I didn’t like it. But you seem to have a thing against levity.
I think you misread my post. I was saying Endgame should of had levity like how The Empire Strikes Back did. An movie that was dark and serious.

There's a difference between humor and levity and what Endgame used was humor. I still think that's what Endgame should had done but given audiences too used of the usual formula stuck to the usual humor.
 

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It wasn’t bad you just didn’t like it

What did you really expect? Half of the ****ing universe has been obliterated, did you want it to be sunshine and rainbows?

Don’t worry about that right now
I’m sick of this whole “objective quality” thing. It doesn’t exist. It’s just what the majority of people like and dislike. To me, it was a bad movie that brought me down so low that it’s hype moments just had no effect. That’s bad filmmaking in my opinion.
I wanted them to spend like, 5 minutes in blip world instead of a whole third of the movie, and then I wanted them to erase it from history so it just never happened.

But seriously. I don’t want the nicest person here hating me. That just makes me feel like a monster.
 

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yeah ******** i didnt park at my house i parked at the police station you fool, now you pull a 360 and speed off at 120 mph
Stay safe Ari.
 

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So.... they did a bad thing on purpose. That doesn’t make it better. It makes it worse.

I still feel like that movie just made so many wrong decisions to the point that not even
Captain Hammer Bro
got me hyped. I was just sad.
Being depressing isn't necessarily a bad thing. Schindler's List is pretty depressing but I enjoyed it.
 

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I’m sick of this whole “objective quality” thing. It doesn’t exist. It’s just what the majority of people like and dislike. To me, it was a bad movie that brought me down so low that it’s hype moments just had no effect. That’s bad filmmaking in my opinion.
I wanted them to spend like, 5 minutes in blip world instead of a whole third of the movie, and then I wanted them to erase it from history so it just never happened.

But seriously. I don’t want the nicest person here hating me. That just makes me feel like a monster.
Nah I don’t hate you, I don’t hate anyone here.

Well that’s not entirely true, but I won’t name names.
 

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I swear, teachers can become complex at times
 

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Being depressing isn't necessarily a bad thing. Schindler's List is pretty depressing but I enjoyed it.
Sure. I guess. But this is a god damn superhero movie!

Whatever. We all know I’m more Team Superman than Team Spider-Man so... meh.

How far into the series are we gonna have to be before they stop referencing Endgame. I don’t think I’ll be able to enjoy them till they do.
 

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So.... they did a bad thing on purpose. That doesn’t make it better. It makes it worse.

I still feel like that movie just made so many wrong decisions to the point that not even
Captain Hammer Bro
got me hyped. I was just sad.
Depressing does NOT equal bad. You don't have to like it, but it doesn't make it automatically bad.
You mean besides having the usual jokey jokes and

Professor Hulk taking selfies with girls?

That's sooo totally depressing. I said it before but this movie should had been an exception with the jokey jokes and done levity similar to The Empire Strikes Back but obviously GA is too attained to the usual MCU formula to change that otherwise it wouldn't be a hit.

I mean we were talking about a serious situation where 50% of all life is gone. How do you go to that and not be serious and dark about it?
Oh yeah, because singling out a SINGLE joke in an overall tense movie is TOTALLY fair :mad:

That doesn't mean it's not intense as a whole.

If you're gonna seriously argue a point, cut the snark. Stop insulting my intelligence, jerk. If you want to call me or my opinion stupid, flat out say it.
 
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Depressing does NOT equal bad. You don't have to like it, but it doesn't make it automatically bad.

Oh yeah, because singling out a SINGLE joke in an overall tense movie is TOTALLY fair :mad:

That doesn't mean it's not intense as a whole.

If you're gonna seriously argue a point, cut the snark. Stop insulting my intelligence, jerk. If you want to call me or my opinion stupid, flat out say it.
Sorry bad habit of mine...-_-

Trying to better myself as it is. Always gonna be setbacks. One thing I should probably try to do is think before I post next time. Can't say I can promise but I'll try.
 
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