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For Mii costumes when:ulthero:drops I expect some Dragon Quest characters at most.

:ultbanjokazooie:I'm thinking Mumbo Jumbo (:ultbrawler:), Gruntilda headwear, Master Chief (:ultgunner:) and Steve (:ultswordfighter:).
I was thinking Mumbo would be a :ultswordfighter: and maybe it’d be Rare characters like a Rash :ultbrawler: and Joanna Dark :ultgunner:
Y'all are missing the best thing....RARE EYES (headgear). I would love this to no end.
 

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Going by character ranking for DQ

Torneko, Alena, Yangus, DQ3 Warrior or Priest, and Terry will get mii costume if anything

Jade and Bianca maybe too but i cant see how their main weapon would work with any mii fighter
 
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What Square characters outside of Dragon Quest characters has potential to make it as Mii costumes?

Sadly Geno might be the case. Be a hard blow on the fans and I'd feel bad for them. :(

Crono maybe as well?
 

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What Square characters outside of Dragon Quest characters has potential to make it as Mii costumes?

Sadly Geno might be the case. Be a hard blow on the fans and I'd feel bad for them. :(

Crono maybe as well?
edea's time to shine

finish the look, sakurai

complete the mii
 

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What Square characters outside of Dragon Quest characters has potential to make it as Mii costumes?

Sadly Geno might be the case. Be a hard blow on the fans and I'd feel bad for them. :(

Crono maybe as well?
I honestly think it'll just be DQ stuff with Chocobo and Geno returning. Maybe Crono but Square treats it as the red-headed stepchild that it is.
 

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Just about any first party character would break all theories, but I simply can’t see any first party that fits well in the timeline of planning and would reach the levels of hype of the first 3, or even expands upon the crossover element in a meaningful way.

Like at this point, the next would-be Xenoblade newcomer is accounted for, and the top newcomers would be...Three Houses and Pokémon, both of which are series with substantial content in Smash already.

Considering Pokémon and Fire Emblem have a substantial amount of content, them having an additional character in Smash doesn’t do as much to expand on a crossover as much as, say, yet another series entirely new to Smash like the first 3 DLC picks have been.

I realize I have a restricted view of what is happening for DLC, but it’s simoly restricted based on what I think is going to happen. Having Pokémon #14 or Fire Emblem waifu/lord #8 isn’t as exciting for the gaming community at large as an entirely new series, like Resident Evil, Devil May Cry, Ace Attorney, Tekken, Tales, or even a curveball like Crash Bandicoot.

These are all great picks, and they expand on Smash and any particular category.

At least, to me, that’s why an all 3rd party pass makes sense. The potential audience is bigger, and they provide even more potential for new content than a series already present in Smash.

EDIT: This isn’t to say that I think first parties are bad picks necessarily, as i’m sure I could appreciate a variety of first party picks. I just think if this is meant to be the “biggest crossover in gaming history” and the prior three packs are new series in Smash, the crossover can only get bigger with two more series entirely new to Smash.
 
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What Square characters outside of Dragon Quest characters has potential to make it as Mii costumes?

Sadly Geno might be the case. Be a hard blow on the fans and I'd feel bad for them. :(

Crono maybe as well?
Tifa - Brawler, Barrett - Gunner, Sephiroth - Swordfighter, Chocobo Hat, Red XIII Hat, Mog Hat/suit, Mallow Hat, Geno Costume (Still holding hope, but won't be upset if it returns).
 

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Just about any first party character would break all theories, but I simply can’t see any first party that fits well in the timeline of planning and would reach the levels of hype of the first 3, or even expands upon the crossover element in a meaningful way.
Third-parties aren't all that different from first-parties, even though people like to pretend they are.

Once you step away from the, "I can't believe 'X' franchise is represented in Smash!" factor, third-parties are subject to the same scrutiny and opinions as first-parties. People have to ask themselves, "Is this a character I really wanted?" "Do I know the character, and if not, does that bother me?" "Is the character unique, or did they get added for the sake of it?"

While I'll admit that the number of Nintendo characters who could bring a lot of excitement is dwindling, I'm not convinced being a third-party is all it takes to shock the crowd and stir up hype. It's circumstantial, and it differs from person to person. There are many scenarios where getting Pokémon #11 would be more exciting than niche third-party character who most people outside of Japan have never heard of.

Considering Pokémon and Fire Emblem have a substantial amount of content, them having an additional character in Smash doesn’t do as much to expand on a crossover as much as, say, yet another series entirely new to Smash like the first 3 DLC picks have been.
Just depends on what was/is being discussed behind closed doors. A lot of people wouldn't have guessed Corrin would get in after Robin, Lucina, and Roy's return, but Sakurai and his team saw potential, regardless of the fact that FE already received a substantial amount of content.
 
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Third-parties aren't all that different from first-parties, even though people like to pretend they are.

Once you step away from the, "I can't believe 'X' franchise is represented in Smash!" factor, third-parties are subject to the same scrutiny and opinions as first-parties. People have to ask themselves, "Is this a character I really wanted?" "Do I know the character, and if not, does that bother me?" "Is the character unique, or did they get added for the sake of it?"

While I'll admit that the number of Nintendo characters who could bring a lot of excitement is dwindling, I'm not convinced being a third-party is all it takes to shock the crowd and stir up hype. It's circumstantial, and it differs from person to person. There are many scenarios where getting Pokémon #11 would be more exciting than niche third-party character most people outside of Japan have never heard of.



Just depends on what was/is being discussed behind closed doors. A lot of people wouldn't have guessed Corrin would get in after Robin, Lucina, and Roy's return, but Sakurai and his team saw potential, regardless of the fact that it already received a substantial amount of content.
That’s all well and good, but how does a Nintendo property, with fans that likely would have already purchased the game and console draw in new customers?

There’s more to gain from adding content that isn’t tangentially connected to Smash already. Sure, a Gen 8 Pokémon is “new”, but it’s a Pokémon. Gameplay potential is absolutely an aspect that’s important, but considering there are 3rd party choices providing similar amount of potential, and bring in entirely new series, there’s more to gain with a 3rd party there.

I never said niche, by the way. If you’re talking Pokémon #11 vs. Resident Evil, Tekken, Tales, Monster Hunter, Ace Attorney, or Devil May Cry, it’s a clear decision if you ask me.

Pokémon is one of my favorites by the way.

There’s also the marketing aspect. Let’s say the last two picks are from first-party series, and that finishes up Smash Ultimate. Rather than being able to say the crossover has reached 37 different series, they can only brag about it being 35. Sure, it’s only two series difference, but I think the point stands that entirely new series, mostly being 3rd party (as most series from Nintendo that would be completely new are already represented in some fashion) expand the crossover element in ways first parties don’t.

Basically, 3rd parties reach a wider audience, bring in more content that is unique from series already in Smash by virtue of not being Nintendo-owned in the first place, and are something that Ultimate specifically has ground to gain with.

If this crossover never happens again, then the 37 unique series will never be reached. A Pokémon of Fire Emblem character makes more sense as a base roster add for the next Smash, not the crossover to end all crossover game, in my humble opinion.

(though I suppose, to be fair, new series appealing to more new fans isn’t my opinion. That’s pretty much a fact.)
 
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Banjo is the Nintendo character on the Fighters Pass in our heart of hearts.
 

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Well change of plans for the night. Gonna watch Jeremiah Johnson tomorrow and go see Spider-Man instead at the show with my dad.
 
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And they even gave us the dessert for free!

It was a chocolate mousse.
 

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Just about any first party character would break all theories, but I simply can’t see any first party that fits well in the timeline of planning and would reach the levels of hype of the first 3, or even expands upon the crossover element in a meaningful way.
Well there's your first problem. Assuming that the 3 characters have to be "topped". Being E3, the two shown off could have been there most hype worthy announcements given the audience for that. And last time I checked, Smash never ends with a "big-bang". Wasn't the case for Brawl, Smash 4, 4's DLC, and Ultimate's base roster.
That’s all well and good, but how does a Nintendo property, with fans that likely would have already purchased the game and console draw in new customers?
It doesn't have to be a case of that. A 1st party in this case would be leveraging their audience for Ultimate to check out whatever new game or series they want to promote. If you want a series to succeed, exposing it to an audience like Ultimate's is a sure-fire way to succeed.
 
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I think the next few DLC will appeal to more niche audiences, now that the three big hitters of Joker, Hero and Banjo are out of the way
 

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What Square characters outside of Dragon Quest characters has potential to make it as Mii costumes?

Sadly Geno might be the case. Be a hard blow on the fans and I'd feel bad for them. :(

Crono maybe as well?
Lara Croft.

Adam Jensen.

Commander Shepard.

...

Square holds publishing rights in Japan. I just want some Bioware in there.
 

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That’s all well and good, but how does a Nintendo property, with fans that likely would have already purchased the game and console draw in new customers?

There’s more to gain from adding content that isn’t tangentially connected to Smash already. Sure, a Gen 8 Pokémon is “new”, but it’s a Pokémon. Gameplay potential is absolutely an aspect that’s important, but considering there are 3rd party choices providing similar amount of potential, and bring in entirely new series, there’s more to gain with a 3rd party there.

I never said niche, by the way. If you’re talking Pokémon #11 vs. Resident Evil, Tekken, Tales, Monster Hunter, Ace Attorney, or Devil May Cry, it’s a clear decision if you ask me.

Pokémon is one of my favorites by the way.

There’s also the marketing aspect. Let’s say the last two picks are from first-party series, and that finishes up Smash Ultimate. Rather than being able to say the crossover has reached 37 different series, they can only brag about it being 35. Sure, it’s only two series difference, but I think the point stands that entirely new series, mostly being 3rd party (as most series from Nintendo that would be completely new are already represented in some fashion) expand the crossover element in ways first parties don’t.

Basically, 3rd parties reach a wider audience, bring in more content that is unique from series already in Smash by virtue of not being Nintendo-owned in the first place, and are something that Ultimate specifically has ground to gain with.

If this crossover never happens again, then the 37 unique series will never be reached. A Pokémon of Fire Emblem character makes more sense as a base roster add for the next Smash, not the crossover to end all crossover game, in my humble opinion.

(though I suppose, to be fair, new series appealing to new fans isn’t my opinion. That’s pretty much a fact)
I think you're focusing too much on the company of origin and the idea of getting a new franchise and not enough on the popularity of the character/franchise itself.

Would someone from Devil May Cry, Tales, or Ace Attorney be exciting. Depends on who you are, but yes, many people would likely agree that those who be good additions. There's also a good chance they'd attract a few people who don't already own a Switch. That being said, exactly how big are these franchises? Are the fanbases large enough to make a worthwhile impact on sales? Many of Nintendo's franchises, regardless of whether or not they're already in Smash, have a much larger fanbase than the ones's you listed. Even if you remove the people who don't care about getting another character from an already represented series, the sheer number of casuals who can recognize the character would, at worst, make them even with the people excited for Phoenix Wright or Lloyd.

Again, it's circumstantial. How popular and iconic the franchise is plays a huge part in how well a character from said franchise would be received. As hard as it is for people to accept, a Minecraft, Fortnite, or second Sonic character would likely find more success than most of the other options you listed. That's because very few people outside SmashBoards genuinely care about which company the character originated from and whether or not they're new. They're more concerned about getting characters they like and recognize.
 

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I think you're focusing too much on the company of origin and the idea of getting a new franchise and not enough on the popularity of the character/franchise itself.

Would someone from Devil May Cry, Tales, or Ace Attorney be exciting. Depends on who you are, but yes, many people would likely agree that those who be good additions. There's also a good chance they'd attract a few people who don't already own a Switch. That being said, exactly how big are these franchises? Are the fanbases large enough to make a worthwhile impact on sales? Many of Nintendo's franchises, regardless of whether or not they're already in Smash, have a much larger fanbase than the ones's you listed. Even if you remove the people who don't care about getting another character from an already represented series, the sheer number of casuals who can recognize the character would, at worst, make them even with the people excited for Phoenix Wright or Lloyd.

Again, it's circumstantial. How popular and iconic the franchise is plays a huge part in how well a character from said franchise would be received. As hard as it is for people to accept, a Minecraft, Fortnite, or second Sonic character would likely find more success than most of the other options you listed. That's because very few people outside SmashBoards genuinely care about which company the character originated from and whether or not they're new. They're more concerned about getting characters they like and recognize.
reddit aside, i also think it says a lot that 4/5 of the top replies to this include wright

dude's popularity is slept on big time for whatever reason
 

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Well there's your first problem. Assuming that the 3 characters have to be "topped". Being E3, the two shown off could have been there most hype worthy announcements given the audience for that. And last time I checked, Smash never ends with a "big-bang". Wasn't the case for Brawl, Smash 4, 4's DLC, and Ultimate's base roster.

It doesn't have to be a case of that. A 1st party in this case would be leveraging their audience for Ultimate to check out whatever new game or series they want to promote. If you want a series to succeed, exposing it to an audience like Ultimate's is a sure-fire way to succeed.
Jones never said "topping" though, just "reaching" those levels. Third party series like Resident Evil would be able to do that even if the "core Smash fanbase" isn't excited about them.

I also don't think there are any Nintendo games in the pipeline Nintendo is desperate to promote, especially by the time fighters 4 and 5 are released.
 

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Yeah, let’s change that honestly.

Any change that makes the game even better is always welcome.
You have the game right? Is that skins fur actually brown of is this a product of colors being messed up in pictures. I know her shirt looks like the inside of a watermelon but I hope her fur isnt brown
 
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I don't know what I'm most hyped for coming this year.

Gears 5, Control, Fire Emblem, Panzer Dragoon or Shenmue 3.
 

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I think the next few DLC will appeal to more niche audiences, now that the three big hitters of Joker, Hero and Banjo are out of the way
Geno is a niche character so maybe? Depending on if the Mii Costume is returning or not and if your prediction is true I'd say it fits Geno. The character while popular his Popularity mostly comes from within the Smash Community itself and just a little bit outside of it.. Just a bit or at least the vocal community compared to inside of the Smash Community is smaller.
 
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