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[Rangez]

I feel like making some tea, my head's getting groggy...

 

[Deleted member]

Oh now this is some good fanart

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[Guh-Huzzah!]

Gracious I really have just felt down this week.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

And it feels like you’re letting your minimum knowledge and refusal to look further into this stuff cloud your perception.

The Joker in the movie is a different take on the character. You learn about how he became this way, you know too much about him, you see how human he is, you see how real he feels, you see how anyone of us could become like him. The Joker you know sees the world as a joke but the movie Joker is a victim of a world who saw him as a joke. He’s different but neither version is wrong or is better than the other. They are both effective in their own ways.

I don’t feel like going into the details of Doctor Doom’s story but take a look at this video for a summary:

I can't stand people trying to make The Joker sympathetic. I hated it in Dark Knight and i don't like it every time they try to bring it back. Doesn't help that symp Joker is the icon of some pretty nasty movements. Call me an old fashioned Grouch, but Aniamted Series Joker and Arkham series Joker are the best versions of the character.

 

[Deleted member]

Gracious I really have just felt down this week.

Same here ngl. Been trying to just move on from a personal problem of mine(that I refuse to talk about for reasons) and it just. keeps. on. coming. back.
it's annoying me to no end.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

Gracious I really have just felt down this week.

So would I if I wasn't medicated.

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

I'm studying film in collage right now! I don't have a doctorate, I don't think I ever would do that much school. But I think I know what I'm talking about, at least to a degree.

I graduated this year with a Bachelors in Cinematography so

 

[PeridotGX]

The discussion's passed, but I feel like a sound type could help the balance because there are a few types that could use a few more resistances (Grass, Bug, and Ice).

Also sound totally warrants to be it's own type, way more than ground being separate from rock.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

The discussion's passed, but I feel like a sound type could help the balance because there are a few types that could use a few more resistances (Grass, Bug, and Ice).

Also sound totally warrants to be it's own type, way more than ground being separate from rock.

I feel the same way about Wind Type. I think both would make excellent new types.

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

I think at the very least there should be one type that Normal is super effective to. I dunno why but that’s always bothered me.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

You can make an evil character who's both relatable and who you want to see go down, who's defeat can be both tragic and bittersweet.

It's called a sympathetic villain.

But they are not the star of the film. They're still the antagonist. And that still doesn't work with most comic book villains. I know there are some that thrive on sympathy, just look at my favorite villain Mr. Freeze. But that's not The Joker and that's not Dr. Doom.

I graduated this year with a Bachelors in Cinematography so

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OK. Fine. I have no idea what I'm talking about and should just shut up. That's always what you guys want me to say anyway.

 

[Wademan94]

I can't stand people trying to make The Joker sympathetic. I hated it in Dark Knight and i don't like it every time they try to bring it back. Doesn't help that symp Joker is the icon of some pretty nasty movements. Call me an old fashioned Grouch, but Aniamted Series Joker and Arkham series Joker are the best versions of the character.

I can’t say much for those movements but are you sure we saw the same movie because I don't remember them making the Joker sympathetic in The Dark Knight, he was exactly the ineffable force of chaos, death, and destruction you described the other Jokers portrayed in a grittier, more realistic way. Both Jokers are effective in their own ways and you could probably see that if you gave the film a chance.

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

......
OK. Fine. I have no idea what I'm talking about and should just shut up. That's always what you guys want me to say anyway.

Wait, what? I was just sharing. Your opinion is just as valid as anyone else’s. Bachelor or otherwise.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

Wait, what? I was just sharing. Your opinion is just as valid as anyone else’s. Bachelor or otherwise.

In the context of the conversation it sounded like you were telling me "well I know more then you about this and I disagree with you so......."

I'm sorry if that's not what you meant. I'm just tired. You know as tired you guys are of my "rants"? That's how tired I am of all the stuff I get whenever I express an opinion that's not the dominant narrative. Like, just once it would be nice to post something like that and be agreed with and have it become a discussion instead of being told why I'm wrong.

And thank you for telling me my opinion is valid. That actually means a lot.

 

[Deleted member]

......
OK. Fine. I have no idea what I'm talking about and should just shut up. That's always what you guys want me to say anyway.

Aren't you the one who starts most of these arguments?
Like.. it's not that I want you to shut up or anything like that, just that you do this all the time and frankly it's starting to get annoying. How many hot takes do you have anyway? Feels like if there's a popular opinion out there 90% of the time you disagree with it for whatever reason.

 

[Deleted member]

Well..... This is interesting.
https://www.reddit.com/r/papermario/comments/ih0kt9 There's a line of code(?) that says "battle_win_exP". there might have been plans for EXP at one point in development.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

Aren't you the one who starts most of these arguments?
Like.. it's not that I want you to shut up or anything like that, just that you do this all the time and frankly it's starting to get annoying. How many hot takes do you have anyway? Feels like if there's a popular opinion out there 90% of the time you disagree with it for whatever reason.

It's like how I am with food. I don't actually dislike many foods, but the ones I don't like are so common that I come across as a picky eater. It's the same with opinions about games. There are actually plenty of mainstream opinions I hold and agree with. But the contrary ones I hold just come up so often.

 

[osby]

Unpopular opinion but I really don't care about "anyone could be evil with one bad day" message that Joker movie gave. I feel like it's based on a misunderstanding of what Killing Joke is actually about (that Joker actively tries to make others do bad things because he doesn't want to face his shortcomings) and incredibly reductionist about how people actually act like.

That being said, I don't have a problem with the concept of villain protags. Fiction isn't just for moral purity and adults are capable of separating it from reality. You can root for a character with terrible actions if they have enough relatable qualities. Just don't tell me how I'm step away from being like that because I've been bullied before.

 

[PeridotGX]

I feel the same way about Wind Type. I think both would make excellent new types.

I think wind is a bit redundant. Sound, Tech, lots of options for new Pokemon. Wind? not so much.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

I think wind is a bit redundant. Sound, Tech, lots of options for new Pokemon. Wind? not so much.

I disagree. Just look at Skylanders for examples of how creative you can get with wind/air elementally themed characters.

 

[Deleted member]

I disagree. Just look at Skylanders for examples of how creative you can get with wind/air elementally themed characters.

I mean flying is kinda already wind. Pretty redundant when that type exists.

Although ngl would kinda want wind somewhat just so I can have the elemental grouping of Fire, Water, Earth, and Wind in a team.

 

[ZephyrZ]

Flying type IS wind type. If you went back in time and changed flying type's name to "wind" or "air", no one would bat an eye.

Having flying and wind as separate types would be really redundant, just like if you decided for some arbitrary reason that "rock" and "ground" should be separate- oh wait.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

Flying type IS wind type. If you went back in time and changed flying type's name to "wind" or "air", no one would bat an eye.

Having flying and wind as separate types would be really redundant, just like if you decided for some arbitrary reason that "rock" and "ground" should be separate- oh wait.

Exactly. When we live in a world where rock and ground are separate types, flying and wind should be separated. Flying can become more about the capability of flight and Wind can be about the elemental control of air.

 

[Hat N' Clogs]

I'm gonna binge watch Aggretsuko season 3. I heard the ending is crazy.

 

[Deleted member]

ngl this is pretty ****ing sick

 

[TheCJBrine]

What if we had a Bone type?

We could get some cool skeleton Pokémanz!

Not sure how the type would work besides changing Bone Club to it (although it's already Ground and not Normal so idk), but here's ideas:

Weak to Fighting, Rock, and maybe Grass (sticks and stones may break my bones + strong 'mons breaking bones).

Resistant to Ghost, Dark, and Bug (undead bones being resistant to the ghostly undead and the darkness - not really sure about bug tbh).

Super effective against Bug (once again I'm not sure).


-yeah maybe this is a pointless type, idk, perhaps skeletons should just be relegated to ghost/dark and whatnot. Still think it could be cool though.

 

[Shroob]

Forgive me as I've never watched a movie in that series, but I was under the impression that, regardless if they succeed or not, you were supposed to be rooting for the normal people trying to escape from/stop Freddy. Not Freddy.

I mean, I don't want to watch the movie so I guess I can't comment. but I know who the Joker is as a character. And I can't see how anyone could want him to succeed in his goals. The Joker's such a good villain because he's an ineffable force of chaos, death, and destruction.

And I might not be much of a Marvel fan, but I do know just how bad a guy Dr. Doom is. You can't make him relatable. You can't want him to succeed.

See, that's where you're wrong, because Horror Movies take what you think 'you' know and skull ****s them.


No one really goes to a Slasher flick/horror movie for the deep, engaging plot, they go to see the clever ways the main characters can be killed and the monster.


You know who Freddie is because, he's Freddie Kreuger. Can you name the human protagonist of Elm Street 2? 3? 5? No? Because ultimately, they're just there to drive the plot. Freddy is the only character that matters.



And honestly, this is 100% fine, because no, it doesn't inspire people to go out and be dream demon killers, they're able to separate fiction from reality. And as schlocky as a lot of these movies are, they're successful.


Do people watch Elm Street for an a story about teens overcoming an evil demon... or an evil demon killing teens in admittedly hilarious ways.

Do people watch Friday 13th for a story about teens misbehaving at summer camp... or for said teens to get their just desserts via a machete-wielding masked man.


And then there's SAW, which, admittedly, while it's a gorefest, technically like, I'm pretty sure the villain, Jigsaw, specifically targets awful humans, who are your 'protagonists'.

 

[osby]

Flying type IS wind type. If you went back in time and changed flying type's name to "wind" or "air", no one would bat an eye.

Having flying and wind as separate types would be really redundant, just like if you decided for some arbitrary reason that "rock" and "ground" should be separate- oh wait.

I used to find it weird but aren't those two different types because rock and earth are not the same? Yeah, dirt mostly consists of small crystallines but by that logic, ice and water are literally the same thing in different phases.

 

[Shroob]

I used to find it weird but aren't those two different types because rock and earth are not the same? Yeah, dirt mostly consists of small crystallines but by that logic, ice and water are literally the same thing in different phases.

Except Ice is an awful type

I mean wha did someone sneeze?



......what? Why are you booing me? I'm right. Ice is the worst type in the game defensively.

 

[Deleted member]

Well..... This is interesting.
https://www.reddit.com/r/papermario/comments/ih0kt9 There's a line of code(?) that says "battle_win_exP". there might have been plans for EXP at one point in development.

wait OK has an exp variable? That... uh.. changes many things...

the fact it's still in the game at all suggests it was likely cut pretty late into the game's development..perhaps around the same time the cutscenes were being worked on?(roughly the end of summer last year)

Even more interesting is that's it's not a toggle on/off thing..it's a numerical value. So it's unlikely this is just a confetti upgrade but a "true" exp system. if it was a confetti upgrade system it would just be easier to use a toggle to change to different upgrade stages rather than using a numerical value of all things.

 

[osby]

Except Ice is an awful type

I mean wha did someone sneeze?



......what? Why are you booing me? I'm right. Ice is the worst type in the game defensively.

I know jack **** about Pokemon meta, I just think Ice type has some of the cutest Pokemon, like Glaceon and Snorunt.

 

[Shroob]

I know jack **** about Pokemon meta, I just think Ice type has some of the cutest Pokemon, like Glaceon and Snorunt.

Oh it does.


But christ in a handbasket it only resisting itself, having 0 immunities, and it being weak to rock, steel and fighting is such a kick in the nuts

 

[Hat N' Clogs]

HOLY CRAP

Spoiler: Aggretsuko Three Spoilers

Retsuko's alive. The stalker's in jail. After pursuing her dream for a while, she's back in a stable, safe place. She's safe again. And OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH when Haida saves her life and his hand gets cut up from the stalker's switch blade he knocks out of the stalker's hand... THE FEELS. I FREAKING CAN'T.

I'm glad Haida and Retsuko made amends and Retsuko's back at work, safe and sound. It was scary though. This show took a DEEP drama route... and I LOVED the heavy drama route. I flippin LOVED the darker turn, especially since it developed the characters very nicely and Haida worked up more courage than ever. THAT is what I call character development. I really like the reconciliation between Haida and Retsuko at the end of episode 10. I really enjoyed that. They're FINALLY communicating. It's amazing. I'm glad to see it.

Although... the love triangle trope is a trope I'm seriously tired of seeing, but since Haida took big steps forward in character development, I think I'll live?

Even still... the most important part... is that Retsuko is alive and well. Thank God.

Aside from the love triangle trope being used and not being a fan of it really, this season took good strides with the show. While seasons 1 and 2 were consistent greatness, season 3 had the show's lowest lows for me... but also the highest highs.

9/10

Welp, I've only had my Netflix account for a day again but it's time to cancel it again until season 4 comes out in August of 2021. Weeeeeeee

 

[TheCJBrine]

But christ in a handbasket it only resisting itself, having 0 immunities, and it being weak to rock, steel and fighting is such a kick in the nuts

Now I feel better about having a simplistic Bone-type. I forgot Ice is kinda simplistic as well, although it does get four types weak to it while I’m still not sure what Bone would be super-effective against...

 

[KingofPhantoms]

The reason people watch Slasher films usually amounts to wanting to be scared ala any Horror film, or to see how the monstrous killer claims their victims.

People would root or sympathize with the protagonists and victims more often, but, whether intentionally or not (I think it's usually unintentional, honestly), a lot of Slasher movies tend to make their victims one-dimensional and unlikable, or otherwise try to cram character development cliches into the little screentime they have before they gradually all start dying one by one. So more often than not, they amount to little more than cannon fodder for the Big Bad to pick off.

It became so damn common of a trope that it gets spoofed a lot whenever the genre is brought up nowadays. And it's far from the only predictable recurring element in Slashers. There's a reason Scream was dedicated to being a very meta and refreshing take on the genre.

 

[DerpingPikachu]

Been a second since I posted. What's happenin' in here tonight?

 

[Rizen]

Call me an old fashioned Grouch, but Aniamted Series Joker and Arkham series Joker are the best versions of the character.

This applies to everything. Batman TAS was freaking awesome.

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

I disagree. Just look at Skylanders for examples of how creative you can get with wind/air elementally themed characters.

Dude, I still want to get the last two Skylanders. They looked fun as hell. And Bowser, DK, Crash, and Spyro in the same game? Sick.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Flying is basically a fusion of Wind and Bird moves. You could easily separate the types if you tried. One can be more about moves using Wings, Pecks, etc. while the other would be about using Gales, Wind Slices, etc.

Though there's no denying Flying is meant to cover Wind. Ground and Rock honestly felt a lot more similar to Wind and Bird combined, honestly. Though obviously they did separate them decently between throwing rocks vs causing tremors as the core difference.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

Flying is basically a fusion of Wind and Bird moves. You could easily separate the types if you tried. One can be more about moves using Wings, Pecks, etc. while the other would be about using Gales, Wind Slices, etc.

Though there's no denying Flying is meant to cover Wind. Ground and Rock honestly felt a lot more similar to Wind and Bird combined, honestly.

There are other things that fly besides birds. Insects, Pterosaurs, Bats. So I think Flying still works as the name for the type.