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And I highly disagree.
You realize you’re not the only person who’s studied film, right? Not everyone teaches film the same way either.
It's not like blockbusters are known for their risky and unconventional plots that push the limits of cinematographic storytelling.
Sci-fi and mysticism aren't mutually exclusive. Hainish Cycle books are pretty good examples on how you can pull it off well.
Where as for me... that distinction is never there. A CG character is just as "there" as a puppet or practical effect. And puppets have jerky and unnatural movement and fake looking skin textures and all this stuff, whereas CG actually looks like real materials and has more natural movement. Even if it is slightly muted.
Yeah, that’s what I was thinking after reading all of this.
I can believe a puppet is there, even if it's obviously fake. It 'looks' real, it 'looks' physical. It has weight to its movements and moves in realistic ways.
I find it ironic how you go on about how you can’t get into CGI that looks unrealistic yet when practical effects show something that’s actually there, you still can’t get into it.
Fair point. I'm just trying to explain why I might think differently from others in a concise way that doesn't mean linking to my life story every time I express an opinion.
I mean.... I haven't watched most other space operas.
Thank you. One of the reasons why that movie is my favorites movies, not just in horror.
Let's hope you never find out about what alchemy is.
It seems odd you'd solo it out for Sci-Fi but not Superheroes*COUGHDR.STRANGECOUGHTHESPECTRECOUGHZATANNACOUGH*
Wait what? When have I.... OH! You mean Pokemon. I feel like the two are very different. Like, most CG tries to make something that looks real. The characters have anatomy, the textures are realistic, it looks like it was something that occurred in the real world. But the Detective Pikachu movie doesn't do that. Instead of being taken out of it because this character is tiny or you only see it from the waist up you're taken out of it because you have a mouse with anime cat eyes and no defined body shape next to a completely normal looking human. It doesn't make sense for these two "designs" to come from the same universe.
My god Snake. I've spent my entire life in bookstores, and every single instance they had science fiction and fantasy in the same section. And for good reason. They achieve the same goals literary tropes that you don't achieve in other genres. And even if you only talk about the superficial elements only with what separates the two, there's this famous quote from one the Big Three of Sci Fi Arthur C. Clarke, "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
That seems like a rather arbitrary standart.
Faith? Believing in something with no scientific backing behind it and no inherent rational explanations? In Sci-Fi? A medium that is done best when everything has an explanation. No. The two are fundamentally incompatible and bring each other down when put together in a single piece of media.
I find it funny that in Episode 1, the podracer that looks most real is a puppet.
That seems moreso your opinion.
Which is why I added the caviot "when it's being done right". You can't include a bad example of something and use it to justify a bad decision. That just doesn't make sense.
The idea that sci-fi stories need to explain everything seems counter intuitive in a Star Wars discussion given that demysticism of the force has long been a complaint of fans and Lucas' desire to further explain it in his drafts for a sequel trilogy was something he recognised not everyone would be happy about.
You're point just confuses me. Like... I don't get it. How does Cosmic Horror shut down my point? If you can't explain it, it's bad Sci-Fi. It might be a good... other thing..... but it's inherently bad sci-fi.That seems moreso your opinion.
Cause like, Cosmic Horror shuts down your entire point.
It's both Faith AND Sci-Fi because you can't explain it.
I’m sorry, but you don’t need to explain everything for your fictional world to be credible. Not everyone wants to have a story they're reading to be constantly bogged down by needless explanations.
I will never not be disappointed that the prequel movie from 2011 or so had practical effects planned only for execs to go "no people will hate this it needs to be full on CG" and then I saw the original afterwards which looks significantly more horrifying
People like bad things. People want bad things. Just because "fans" like something, doesn't mean it's objectively a good idea. I like the explanation of the force. It makes these powers more believable instead of just "they're super devout space monks so they can move rocks with their minds". Like, that doesn't ever happen and doesn't make sense.
Snake, this really is just your opinion lol.
A lot of popular and renowned sci-fi authors like Asimov or Le Guin incorporate unexplained supernatural phenomena in their works.
Excuse my bluntness but why is that you get to decide what is objectively good?
You mind running that back to me one more time to make sure I ain't truly read the cap in front of my eyes?
You don't understand, osby. She's a Film Student™. Film Students™ have the utmost power in deciding whether something or not is objectively good.
In what part of your mind did you think writing this out and hitting “Post reply” without running it back was a good idea?
I mean, it's true that a lot of people consume junk food equivalent of media.
Don’t sell the bike shop, Orville.
You just made an enemy of the every English lit teacher in the existence.
Rofl. Reminds me back in school where I was questioning whether authors were intentionally doing the things we said they did in essays or if we just were looking too far into things.
The part of my mind that knows it's true.