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Can't I just enjoy something in peace, why does every fandom I join suddenly become toxic less than half a year after I join it
Protip: You can absolutely love something without directly engaging its fanbase. You don't need to be part of an inane mob to justify liking something. Pick and choose the people you engage with, carve out your own niche.

That said, there are some instances where it can become...irreconcilable. For me, as an example, it comes in the form of Warhammer 40k. While I have little issue with the game and the setting itself (tl;dr it's a hilariously expensive tactical miniatures wargame with the grim-derpiest lore imaginable), a good portion of the fanbase that I've run into is just...well, they're nuts. So nuts, in fact, that some of them deadass take the lore at face-value and heartily endorse some of the stuff propagated by the factions in-universe, chiefly the Space Marines, which enforce a universe-spanning empire with a population of trillions. We're talking fascism, genocide, imperialism, fundamentalism...like, it's cool and it's right. It really, really isn't. Warhammer 40k's take on these things was originally meant to be satirical commentary, overblown and cartoonish, cariactures of these things IRL. The developers and writers didn't really do much to try and convince people of that over the years, however, and as a result the fanbase kinda took the ball and ran with it---too far. Lot of neo-Nazis and other unsavory folks ended up co-opting the game, deus vulting their way into a lot of spaces and even into the halls of the company that made/published it. Thankfully Games Workshop (the people in charge of Warhammer) has been trying to dial all that back these past few years and have made significant strides in doing so, but it's like...sour grapes for me, especially during the more formative times when my interest was actually piqued in the game.

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On that note I'm glad I'm a Digimon fan because Digimon is a series that while not being niche it's not mainstream either, its stuck in a state of just kinda being close to mainstream but not mainstream enough to bring in cringy fans.
I really want to give a pessimistic troll response to this but I feel that'd be too easy.:sheep:

Am waiting for reactions to a few more episodes of the reboot series before diving in. Tri bummed me out.
 

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Protip: You can absolutely love something without directly engaging its fanbase. You don't need to be part of an inane mob to justify liking something. Pick and choose the people you engage with, carve out your own niche.

That said, there are some instances where it can become...irreconcilable. For me, as an example, it comes in the form of Warhammer 40k. While I have little issue with the game and the setting itself (tl;dr it's a hilariously expensive tactical miniatures wargame with the grim-derpiest lore imaginable), a good portion of the fanbase that I've run into is just...well, they're nuts. So nuts, in fact, that some of them deadass take the lore at face-value and heartily endorse some of the stuff propagated by the factions in-universe, chiefly the Space Marines, which enforce a universe-spanning empire with a population of trillions. We're talking fascism, genocide, imperialism, fundamentalism...like, it's cool and it's right. It really, really isn't. Warhammer 40k's take on these things was originally meant to be satirical commentary, overblown and cartoonish, cariactures of these things IRL. The developers and writers didn't really do much to try and convince people of that over the years, however, and as a result the fanbase kinda took the ball and ran with it---too far. Lot of neo-Nazis and other unsavory folks ended up co-opting the game, deus vulting their way into a lot of spaces and even into the halls of the company that made/published it. Thankfully Games Workshop (the people in charge of Warhammer) has been trying to dial all that back these past few years and have made significant strides in doing so, but it's like...sour grapes for me, especially during the more formative times when my interest was actually piqued in the game.

Smooth Criminal
Oh god, I know all about the Warhammer fanbase. I honestly thought of picking up the game awhile back since I thought the idea of a little miniature game like that would be neat, and I really loved the Tyranid's designs...

But some of the things I saw some of the fans advocating was frankly insane.
 

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The thing about fanbases getting bigger leading to more rampant ****posting is practically a social rule at this point. Seen the same stuff happen tons even on anonymous boards on 4chan. On /a/ they complain about it every time any manga, popular or niche, gets an anime announced. Most recent example was Nagataro's anime announcement. Thread was full of people saying that they're afraid the threads were going to go south cause of new fans coming in once the anime happens and start ruining things.

Some series manage to avoid it by simply not getting big enough. Helltaker seems to have stayed fairly tame for instance despite being a big flavor of the week recently.
 

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Sure, I can get behind roleplaying something like that in a TTRPG setting (to a point), you know? There's something to be said about catharsis and engaging with these kinds of themes in a mature way with people you trust, while telling a story that ya'll are making. I cannot, for the life of me, unironically appreciate what the God-Emperor and the Space Marines actually do. It's awful.

And there are some people that this just clearly bleeds over into their worldview. It shows, and it sucks.

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Just took a morning shower.

I think I'm gonna have breakfast, put on my Street clothes and just take a peaceful walk around some parts of the city while taking photos of the sunset.

After that I may eat some cake at a really cool café I know.
 

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Just took a morning shower.

I think I'm gonna have breakfast, put on my Street clothes and just take a peaceful walk around some parts of the city while taking photos of the sunset.

After that I may eat some cake at a really cool café I know.
Can I be you? For just like- a day?
Seriously. I haven’t had a walk in ages.
And don’t you dare try to tell me that’s its my fault that I haven’t taken a walk!

I think it‘s Nemo’s long lost cousin.
If that’s the case, then the answer is DEFINITELY YES
 

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Can't I just enjoy something in peace, why does every fandom I join suddenly become toxic less than half a year after I join it
Hate to break it to you, but this is the internet you're talking about. On the net, and in the real world for that matter, there's no such thing as a toxic free fanbase. There's always going to be portions of fanbases out there that can't or won't be respectful to each other, externally or even internally. Sports, games, music, movies, you name it. Believe me, I'm sick of toxic behavior as well.
 

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Does squidward count as a fish tho??
Because if so,,, I mean, there’s no competition any more
 
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Ok, I see the Sabi stuff made the rounds around here...

... It may finally be time to put something out of my life here forever.



Maybe I should have been more open about this earlier, maybe not... But the only thing I want is to move out of all of these fears from my past and the fears of Sabi using It to turn anyone who I love and admire against me.

There's only one thing I ask all of my friends at Smashboards: a chance.
A chance to acknowledge me for the person who I am today, and not the person from my past who I have been trying to move away from for years.

If It wasn't for this place and Discord, I wouldn't be talking with anyone at all... The people from here have changed my heart for the better in a lot of ways. And even if some of you may not like me as much as I wished... I still admire all for making me Happy after all these years.


To all of the people I tagged... I hope you can forgive me and let me live as the person who I am now and step away from my past.
Well, dang, that’s wild. Glad you aren’t in contact with him anymore. (Or at least, I would hope your not.) Glad you’ve been able to improve yourself, my guy! That a very important thing to be able to do.

(Also, sorry for taking so long to actually see this post.)
 

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ngl, Sabi finally getting this stuff thrown out about him makes me happy.

I can’t stand narcissists. And he was very clearly an egomaniac. Not only that, but with all the stuff being rumored about him throwing others under the bus (whether lying about others who had info, ratting them out, or both, even pretending to be their friend then getting them fired or having his mob of fans and other people believe in lies about them/others and hate them), as well as lying about crap and doing stuff to get attention and fuel his ego (even lying about sad stuff, possibly), and other stuff, I didn’t like him at all.

I didn’t know he did bad crap to his girlfriend, though. I wasn’t expecting that, but from how he acted, I guess it shouldn’t be a surprise. That’s sad, and is now added onto my list of reasons to dislike Sabi.

Now, I didn’t know him personally or even on messaging things, but still. I didn’t really hate him, though, but man, do I dislike him, and I hope he never shows back up again.
 
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But what if not sexy fish, but cute ones instead? I remembered this cute fish and her cute friends.
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Though I suppose she does have the most iconic hips in her series by far.
It's Monster Hunter. The fish wyvern in the middle there is Plesioth who is well memed for having a ridiculously large hitbox on its hipcheck attack in older games, so lots of memes about how wide its hips truly are.
 

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Watching an older video of Markiplier analyzing a dog hate subreddit at almost 3 in the morning.

I want to die but at least I'm having a good time.
 

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But what if not sexy fish, but cute ones instead? I remembered this cute fish and her cute friends.

Though I suppose she does have the most iconic hips in her series by far.
It's Monster Hunter. The fish wyvern in the middle there is Plesioth who is well memed for having a ridiculously large hitbox on its hipcheck attack in older games, so lots of memes about how wide its hips truly are.
Cute? That looks like someone drew my sleep paralysis demon. Wtfr*ck. I’d p*op my pants if I saw one of those things.

I want to die but at least I'm having a good time.
Im using this quote so many times in the future, thank you so much
 
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****ing called it rofl.


"Yes...mmm... we've had the DLC out for a meager 13 days, and people are playing with the new stuff. Oh? People aren't playing Aegislash right now? Ah, it must be weak. Let's put it in UU."
And going down the original tweet gave me a chuckle. Quoting Smogon from their Twitter after someone asked why Aegislash was put into UU. Let me just grab this marvelous essay. Ahem:

"Because it dropped through not being used enough in OU, simple as that."

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ITS JUST SO SIMPLE!
 

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Spoiler in case you honestly don’t care
I’ve lied about my age before on this site, (in posts, the age on my account is true) mainly to avoid my opinion getting ignored because of my age.
Nothing huge, just wanted to let people know that if in some older post I claim to be a certain age, it just isn’t true.
Because I’m actually just an infant
Was this enough to warrant a full post?
And that right there is my deepest, darkest, secret
 

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Spoiler in case you honestly don’t care
I’ve lied about my age before on this site, (in posts, the age on my account is true) mainly to avoid my opinion getting ignored because of my age.
Nothing huge, just wanted to let people know that if in some older post I claim to be a certain age, it just isn’t true.
Because I’m actually just an infant
Was this enough to warrant a full post?
And that right there is my deepest, darkest, secret
"You just came out of the god damn womb, why the hell should I care about what you think?"

No, I do understand hiding your age though, and that's a very valid reason.
 

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I used to hide my age because I thought that alone could have people identify me in real life lol
 
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"You just came out of the god damn womb, why the hell should I care about what you think?"

No, I do understand hiding your age though, and that's a very valid reason.
Thanks! I’m glad you’re able to understand.

I used to hide my age because I think that alone could have people identify me in real life lol
“Darnit! We were about to find his full name, address, and password to everything, but he didn’t list his age!!”
or on the other side of the coin
“You silly billy!! You listed your age! I’m already calling to get your house swatted!!!”
 

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Ok, I see the Sabi stuff made the rounds around here...

... It may finally be time to put something out of my life here forever.



Maybe I should have been more open about this earlier, maybe not... But the only thing I want is to move out of all of these fears from my past and the fears of Sabi using It to turn anyone who I love and admire against me.

There's only one thing I ask all of my friends at Smashboards: a chance.
A chance to acknowledge me for the person who I am today, and not the person from my past who I have been trying to move away from for years.

If It wasn't for this place and Discord, I wouldn't be talking with anyone at all... The people from here have changed my heart for the better in a lot of ways. And even if some of you may not like me as much as I wished... I still admire all for making me Happy after all these years.


To all of the people I tagged... I hope you can forgive me and let me live as the person who I am now and step away from my past.
Being able to admit your past mistakes and finally having the strength to come forward and expose Sabi gives me nothing but respect for you, friend.

You're a great guy, JD, and you shouldn't have to fear anyone judging you by the past you've already been making serious efforts to move away from.
 

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Imagine if people were born with eyelashes growing out of their earlobe
but they don’t have actual eyelashes
and then later in life they have to get their eyelids pierced and hang earrings on them

edit: i’m sorry it was 4 am
 
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Side Note, I wonder why Persona got the big "Smash Boost", and not any other DLC franchise.
Persona was the only franchise that was the right size to see it happen.

Dragon Quest is already huge. A million more sales isn't very noticeable.

Banjo is on hiatus.

Fatal Fury as a series in on hiatus but King of Fighters is still going strong.

Fire Emblem already got that boost ages ago.

ARMS sold pretty well, but its only had one game so far.

It also helps that Persona 5 is just the right kind of game to appeal to teenagers and young adults who are the most vocal about their gaming tastes. Also it tends to be the "teens first deep game," of this generation. Kind of like Xenoblade Chronicles, Tales of Symphonia, and Final Fantasy VII before it.
 
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That walk around the city felt really good even with the cloudy sky.

My mother is interested on the idea of buying me some of those wireless headphones for my phone later today, which is quite cool as my current headphones have their wires broken.

Feels great to walk around the city and without feeling lonely anymore.
 

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Side Note, I wonder why Persona got the big "Smash Boost", and not any other DLC franchise.
the series they come from are either too big to be boosted, were already boosted, or are ****ing dead

think of it like goldilocks, persona was just right for the boost
 
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****ing called it rofl.


"Yes...mmm... we've had the DLC out for a meager 13 days, and people are playing with the new stuff. Oh? People aren't playing Aegislash right now? Ah, it must be weak. Let's put it in UU."
And going down the original tweet gave me a chuckle. Quoting Smogon from their Twitter after someone asked why Aegislash was put into UU. Let me just grab this marvelous essay. Ahem:

"Because it dropped through not being used enough in OU, simple as that."

View attachment 277590
ITS JUST SO SIMPLE!
In all fairness, Smogon tiers have always been based on usage statistics. OU and UU literally stand for "overused" and "underused". It's because there's just too many pokemon to analyze otherwise. The tiers are going to be super volatile for a little while as the player base figures out what's good and what's not.

Then banned pokemon get their own BL (borderline) or Uber tiers.
 
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