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Schnee117

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If I were them, I'd just cancel EVO for this year and start next year again until its made sure that there are no more of these pedophiles and rapists.
I mean, Evo this year pretty much already is cancelled.
Several players including SonicFox are out. Commentators like Sajam, UltraDavid and James Chen are out. Max is out. Games are getting pulled.

The brand is beyond tainted now.
 

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What's happening with EVO?
It's slow yet agonizing death with all that's been happening within the community.

EDIT: Apparently Zero got accused as well....I'm going to hold judgement on him until he confirms or denies anything. I sure hope he's able to prove he's not affiliated with any of this...
 
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So much $#!+ happened this year...
WHEN IS IT GOING TO END!?
It's disappointing to hear and hopefully it all gets sorted out.
I'm waiting to see more info on the matter. Innocent until proven guilty.
Hopefully he's innocent. If he is, then awesome. And, that false accusation needs to be thrown out immediately. If it's proven true, *sigh* no words.
 
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wait what happened with zero was it an accusation of misconduct or accusation of knowing about misconduct and doing nothing?
 

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wait what happened with zero was it an accusation of misconduct or accusation of knowing about misconduct and doing nothing?
Showing porn to minors and some form of harassment.
 

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I think I'm gonna leave this place for a while after today. This **** is absurd and unacceptable and it makes every single person in the community look untrustworthy and shady. This creates so many trust issues within the community that no one will want to go to events where Smash is present due to safety concerns. With all this happening within the competitive Smash community and what ended up happening at EVO, I'm starting to feel quite shameful for being someone within the community...which is not something I want to feel when I am a part of something I truly enjoy.

I just hope that recent things with Zero are cleared and he can actually back up his innocence because....damn this is terrible and very disheartening. 2020 has been a never ending bowl of suck since the beginning of the year...
 

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i've been trying my best to keep myself together this whole year but this is just too ****ing much
 

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I see some have lost it, or are upset about all that has happened. Oddly enough, I am still strong here.
 

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So much $#!+ happened this year...
WHEN IS IT GOING TO END!?
Same...
January had the wars.
Feburay was the Australian fires where I live.
March, good old virus
April, still more virus
May got some riots
June, nothing. (Properly more riots.)
And now July with this...
 
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Pedophile ring in Smash scene.

EVO guy is a predator. Game companies dropping their events, currently Capcom and MK.

Not our first rodeo with this stuff but the timing couldn't be worse.
2020, I Hate this year (-_- )
 
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EVO IS SO DEAD
I wasn't gonna watch it because of smash, but now because The EVO dude is a pedo, and the fact Capcom and NetherRealm is leaving evo

What's the point in EVO

also about smash, HOLY CRAP
 

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until we fix this community the events and tournaments dont matter. until girls and children can play the game and not be abused, harrassed, or taken advantage of, our events are secondary. This is disgusting and while its not everyone its a clear pattern abuse and cover-up. we need to do better. reading through stories i was reminded of up and coming players like day that simply vanished and i always wondered what happened to her.
 

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I’ve said this before and, yes, 2020 sucks. We had fear over a war with Iran, stupid politics, huge violations of human rights across the globe, and COVID19. That’s what makes 2020 suck. This....it sucks but this is for the best. In a perfect world, this shouldn’t of happened at all and everyone would have been responsible adults. In a near-perfect world, this stuff would have been stamped out back in 2016 and properly dealt with. But in a barely -perfect world, we gotta deal with this in 2020 and, personally, I would rather deal with it now as opposed to a few years now and let this sort of stuff continue behind closed doors. So please, don’t say 2020 sucks because of this. It’s a huge disservice and, honestly, an insult to the victims.
 
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Holy ****, that's a big blow

Capcom as well.
Evo's finished

Fighting Herds is out
God damn man, this year's EVO is really just falling apart!
 

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4 companies and a slew of players and commentators withdrawing.

Somehow if Smash were still involved I would think Nintendo would want out.
 

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Come on SNK, do the right thing and pull out of this dumpster fire.
 

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4 companies and a slew of players and commentators withdrawing.

Somehow if Smash were still involved I would think Nintendo would want out.
They'd definitely want out, because 1. Family Friendly company. 2. Mr. Wiz is a pedo. 3. A lot on young children compete at high level for Smash. 4. PR disaster if they stayed in. 5. Smash is the highest viewed game on there.


Would be suicide if they kept Smash in Evo.
 

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EVO 2020 just went from questionable, to pretty exciting... aaaaand into a complete dumpster fire.
 

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until we fix this community the events and tournaments dont matter. until girls and children can play the game and not be abused, harrassed, or taken advantage of, our events are secondary. This is disgusting and while its not everyone its a clear pattern abuse and cover-up. we need to do better. reading through stories i was reminded of up and coming players like day that simply vanished and i always wondered what happened to her.
I'm not sure what we could do, It sucks, But I have faith that this community will be fixed.
 

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I’ve said this before and, yes, 2020 sucks. We had fear over a war with Iran, stupid politics, huge violations of human rights across the globe, and COVID19. That’s what makes 2020 suck. This....it sucks but this is for the best. In a perfect world, this shouldn’t of happened at all and everyone would have been responsible adults. In a near-perfect world, this stuff would have been stamped out back in 2016 and properly dealt with. But in a barely -perfect world, we gotta deal with this in 2020 and, personally, I would rather deal with it now as opposed to a few years now and let this sort of stuff continue behind closed doors. So please, don’t say 2020 sucks because of this. It’s a huge disservice and, honestly, an insult to the victims.
Don't forget Brexit finally happening, Hong Kong, a global recession, increasing inequality and idiocy.
But hey, my local government finally got up and running after three years so there's uh something.

Times like this I read The Pale Blue Dot by Carl Sagan. For better or worse it's therapeutic.

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If I had to force everyone on the planet to read one thing, it would be this. Everytime I see so much bad news I go to this.

Edit: At the end of the page. Hopefully one of yous will have a read. It's made a big part of who I am.
 
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i can't believe some people are more adamant on twitter about captainzack coming back than ensuring abuse isnt dealt with. zack's actions, attitude and demeanor can easily be traced to being the victim of two predators.
the fact that hyuga is playing smash in the Mexican scene and captain zack had initially a 5 year ban is disgusting. match-fixing is a problem in any sport but context is king and nothing happens in a vaccuum.so yes i support zack coming back. indefinite bans should be passed out to everyone that has adequent evidence shown against them.

as for evo its a loss for the better. honeslty these companies could easily form an independent online event on thier own. i think the only reason snk hasnt pulled out is due to the time difference.

i dont know the mikez(creator of skullgirls) siutation
 

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i dont know the mikez(creator of skullgirls) siutation
He made a stupid "I can't breath" joke that he had all the time in the world to not say followed by a very long silence whilst commentating a Skullgirls match
Then it came out that he's a colossal creep.
 

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I'm not sure what we could do, It sucks, But I have faith that this community will be fixed.
we have to pay attention to what is actually happening around us. i was in the women's law caucus in law school. I learned subtle things that occur that escalate to abuse or "tells" that often show someone is being abused. As guys we generally skip these small interactions because we arent looking for them. I was surprised to learn the lengths young women go through to remain safe and feel secure.

we must be better. reading these stories is utterly heartbreaking. Some people should go to jail for this, not just get cancelled.

these two days had me re-analyzing past events. like lima's farewell speech on twitter and lima cryptically saying how he'd never travel to an overnight smash event again. those words are eerie to me.
 
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