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XD Well, at least remembering Other M gave me ideas with these two, I missed them.
 
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You mean it wasn’t pertinent to allow Samus to protect herself when she was literally dying from the heat? It’s not the only time but that’s the most infamous example.
No, it absolutely was pertinent. That's why I said "in every other instance." And you say it's not the only time? Trust me, it's the ONLY time. There's a reason it's the one that keeps getting referenced

No it’s not that she NEVER does it, but for the majority of the game, Adam comes off as a complete asshole because the voice direction combined with moments that make him unintentionally horrible (poor translation didn’t help) and it looks like Samus basically just takes his unnecessary harshness for no reason. Samus never gave us anything to analyze about her relationship aside from her regret and how naive she was. The poor translation didn’t help either.
He comes off exactly as he needed to be, which was a commander with a ton of responsibilities on his plate. This comes off as obtuse, especially when his responsibilities stack up (like, say, a former-subordinate-turned-bounty-hunter joins you on a mission unexpectedly), but Samus knows better than to assume he's some Federation automaton (which he actually does become in Fusion funnily enough). He has ethics and he feels his duties extend beyond what the Federation tells him to do. In fact, that's why he's there on the Bottle Ship in the first place. And yes, Samus takes an inordinate amount of time to introspect on herself than on Adam, but she doesn't blame everything related to him on herself. And for Christ's sake, giving out orders isn't "harshness". Sure he was snipey in the beginning, but last seeing each other on bad terms kinda does that. Remember that he didn't even order her to stop using missiles and bombs, she did that herself. It wasn't characterized as "oh, I would do anything for him," it was more "this is protocol." It established the relationship fully, "professional, yet with historical baggage." I wouldn't say it was a masterful relationship, you get one or two personal talks over comm and could've done with several more, but it wasn't abusive. Samus didn't transform from Xena to Cinderella like everyone and their grandma is putting it.

But boy, this seems like Other M is my favorite game or something, doesn't it. But no, it's far from that. Frankly it's far easier to defend another often hated game like Skyward Sword than this one, but it's the prime example of a serviceable game subject to a terrible feedback loop. You can't look at a clip of Other M in a Scot the Woz video and discern "Oh, that's ****!" or "Oh, that's awesome!" like you would with Sonic 06 or Ride to Hell. You kinda have to take their word for it, and that's a VERY bad idea :yoshi:
 

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Anyone here has played Samurai Showdown PS4???

People at Discord tell me It is really awesome and I'm tempted to try It so I want to hear tales about It from people who played It.

May tag Sari Sari too since they are a big SNK person.
I have it on Switch.

It's pretty fun though I'm absolute garbage at it. I'll probably be hitting the lab soon though I'm still not sure on how to main yet.
 

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I could honestly see this happening from where Remake is taking the story.
id rather have her use a barbed wire bat
Goddddd, I hate how poorly they handled Samus and Adam’s relationship in that game.
I hate how there wasnt enough Anthony
I see Aerith is channeling her inner Kanji. Also...
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You guys see the similarities between these two right?
I can barely tell them apart!
they actually do have some similarities in a way
Sakurai's Pic of the Day

...waifus? What is the meaning if this picture?
 

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No, it absolutely was pertinent. That's why I said "in every other instance." And you say it's not the only time? Trust me, it's the ONLY time. There's a reason it's the one that keeps getting referenced


He comes off exactly as he needed to be, which was a commander with a ton of responsibilities on his plate. This comes off as obtuse, especially when his responsibilities stack up (like, say, a former-subordinate-turned-bounty-hunter joins you on a mission unexpectedly), but Samus knows better than to assume he's some Federation automaton (which he actually does become in Fusion funnily enough). He has ethics and he feels his duties extend beyond what the Federation tells him to do. In fact, that's why he's there on the Bottle Ship in the first place. And yes, Samus takes an inordinate amount of time to introspect on herself than on Adam, but she doesn't blame everything related to him on herself. And for Christ's sake, giving out orders isn't "harshness". Sure he was snipey in the beginning, but last seeing each other on bad terms kinda does that. Remember that he didn't even order her to stop using missiles and bombs, she did that herself. It wasn't characterized as "oh, I would do anything for him," it was more "this is protocol." It established the relationship fully, "professional, yet with historical baggage." I wouldn't say it was a masterful relationship, you get one or two personal talks over comm and could've done with several more, but it wasn't abusive. Samus didn't transform from Xena to Cinderella like everyone and their grandma is putting it.

But boy, this seems like Other M is my favorite game or something, doesn't it. But no, it's far from that. Frankly it's far easier to defend another often hated game like Skyward Sword than this one, but it's the prime example of a serviceable game subject to a terrible feedback loop. You can't look at a clip of Other M in a Scot the Woz video and discern "Oh, that's ****!" or "Oh, that's awesome!" like you would with Sonic 06 or Ride to Hell. You kinda have to take their word for it, and that's a VERY bad idea :yoshi:
You’re really gonna make me go look up gameplay footage and find some examples of what I’m talking about, aren’t you?

I’m regretting bringing this stupid game up.
 

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He comes off exactly as he needed to be, which was a commander with a ton of responsibilities on his plate. This comes off as obtuse, especially when his responsibilities stack up (like, say, a former-subordinate-turned-bounty-hunter joins you on a mission unexpectedly), but Samus knows better than to assume he's some Federation automaton (which he actually does become in Fusion funnily enough). He has ethics and he feels his duties extend beyond what the Federation tells him to do. In fact, that's why he's there on the Bottle Ship in the first place. And yes, Samus takes an inordinate amount of time to introspect on herself than on Adam, but she doesn't blame everything related to him on herself. And for Christ's sake, giving out orders isn't "harshness". Sure he was snipey in the beginning, but last seeing each other on bad terms kinda does that. Remember that he didn't even order her to stop using missiles and bombs, she did that herself. It wasn't characterized as "oh, I would do anything for him," it was more "this is protocol." It established the relationship fully, "professional, yet with historical baggage." I wouldn't say it was a masterful relationship, you get one or two personal talks over comm and could've done with several more, but it wasn't abusive. Samus didn't transform from Xena to Cinderella like everyone and their grandma is putting it.
This will be my only two cents on the matter since the Other M horse has been beaten to death.

The problem with Adam is that he's not just supposed to be an authoritarian figure, he's also supposed to be a father figure. Most of the time Samus talks him, it's as someone that she respects and looks up to, someone who she trusts on a more personal level, and that relationship is what they were trying to delve into and expand on from what we got in Fusion. Yet for all that talk we don't see that side of him, the game focuses almost exclusively on his military general personality and doesn't give any down time where we see the more personal aspects of their relationship come forth. They have a perfect opportunity to have the two share some personal banter with each other due to the radio connection they share, but it's not only underused, but every conversation between the two can be broken down into orders or directions for her to follow. So instead of seeing this father figure, we just get another military general, and one that does come off as inattentive due to things like the Lava run or his lack of response to his team dropping like flies.

And that also ties into a major problem with Other M: It suffers severely from "Show, don't tell". We're told Adam is a father-like figure, we're told he has a strong relationship with Samus, yet the game doesn't give us that. Their relationship is too impersonal for what the story wants us to believe, and that is a major failing in Other M's plot.

Also, the shooting Samus in the back scene was not a good look for him. I know what they were going for, but between them not showing us the threat of an unfreezeable Metroid beforehand (replacing Nightmare with a room of them would've helped), shooting her first before the Metroid (which could've put her in unnecessary danger), the not very well conveyed apology for shooting her in the back, and the lack of any personable elements to him as he walks off to his heroic sacrifice while she's crying makes him come off worse then what they intended.
 

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Finished all of Money Heist so far.

Really enjoyed it. The professor is probably one of my favorite fictional characters. The fact season two easily could have been series finale material But instead they crafted a whole other story with a lot of great narrative, is really impressive.

Looking forward to whenever they get to season 5
 

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I know people already joked about the similarities between FF7R and P5R but aren't we going to talk about how the entire character dynamics of both games boils down to "everyone likes the protag"?
 

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Also, the shooting Samus in the back scene was not a good look for him. I know what they were going for, but between them not showing us the threat of an unfreezeable Metroid beforehand (replacing Nightmare with a room of them would've helped), shooting her first before the Metroid (which could've put her in unnecessary danger), the not very well conveyed apology for shooting her in the back, and the lack of any personable elements to him as he walks off to his heroic sacrifice while she's crying makes him come off worse then what they intended.
That scene right there cemented my hatred of the game’s story. To me it felt like the writer was more focused on portraying military protocol than naturally fleshing out Samus’s character. It develops Adam’s character at the complete expense of Samus’s. She’s basically a chess piece who has no agency of her own and is constantly pushed around to advance the plot. I loved that she had her own agency in the previous games but her character in Other M became just as linear as the game itself.
 
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I had a really bad night thanks to a nightmare involving my current family problems.

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I know people already joked about the similarities between FF7R and P5R but aren't we going to talk about how the entire character dynamics of both games boils down to "everyone likes the protag"?
except for that evil old teacher everyone should hate
 

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What kind of moveset were you thinking for him? I was honestly kind of hoping we'd get him as this pass's "Piranha Plant"
I know you weren’t asking me, but I was thinking a combination of moves from the Spear and Parasol powers from the series as well as a few other references here and there. I could go into more detail around lunchtime since I’m at work right now.
 

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That scene right there cemented my hatred of the game’s story. To me it felt like the writer was more focused on portraying military protocol than naturally fleshing out Samus’s character. It develops Adam’s character at the complete expense of Samus’s. She’s basically a chess piece who has no agency of her own and is constantly pushed around to advance the plot. I loved that she had her own agency in the previous games but her character in Other M became just as linear as the game itself.
Can't speak to Other M at all because I've not played much Metroid. But I will say that if there were more linear and plot-driven entries in the series I would absolutely have.
 

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Happy Mother's Day, everyone.
(For the record, Pearl is Steven's true mom in my eyes. F**k Rose Quartz.)​
 
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Yup! Here's something I came up with:
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I had the same Neutral and Up specials (added Triple Spear when B is charged), for side special I had him riding a Nruff similar to Wario’s bike or riding a Gogoat and the Parasol acting like a shield/reflector for down special. Did you have anything for dash because that’s what I had the Parasol Spin as.
 
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With all the Bandana Dee talk going about, I think it would be nice to showcase TKOWL TKOWL 's own conceptual moveset for the little guy:

 
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Well, Isabelle announced a meteor shower for tonight, meaning Celeste will probably show up, too, so that's nice. Also finally Isabelle said something useful, I still wonder why there's no way to check for special visitors. You'd think she'd tell you, given her job, but no. Such a strange omission, especially when considering it has been a feature since always.
 

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I had the same Neutral and Up specials (added Triple Spear when B is charged), for side special I had him riding a Nruff similar to Wario’s bike or riding a Gogoat and the Parasol acting like a shield/reflector for down special. Did you have anything for dash because that’s what I had the Parasol Spin as.
Bandana Dee's dash attack would be him clumsily tripping over crashing into a opponent.
 
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