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Never made one of these but curious. Which third party character had the biggest reveal reaction in terms of hype, surprise, excitement, shock, legacy, etc in Smash?

https://www.strawpoll.me/18165370
Cloud would be the obvious choice for a lot of newer fans here but a lot of people underestimate how big of a deal it was when Sonic joined in Brawl. I remember people losing their **** when he was announced and that was the only thing me and my friend talked about that day in Middle School lol.

And well...the console wars between Nintendo and SEGA. Seeing SEGA's mascot playable in Smash Bros was massive even if it's not as big of a deal now with so many third parties in.

Cloud is a close No. 2 on the sheer "holy **** this is actually happening" factor. I remember my jaw just dropping when I was watching the Direct live at College then seeing everyone's reactions on SB.
 

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Never made one of these but curious. Which third party character had the biggest reveal reaction in terms of hype, surprise, excitement, shock, legacy, etc in Smash?

https://www.strawpoll.me/18165370
I still feel like Snake and Sonic had the biggest reactions. Both because of different reasons.

I wasn't truly around during the Brawl speculation era but I can only imagine the impact both of them had on the franchise
 

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Gonna share blessed music to bring peace upon the people stressed about the Pokémon controversy.
You know, I have to admit, when I woke up this morning I didn't expect to see a video of Dragon Quest characters singing You Can't Stop the Beat from Hairspray, but here we are. :p
 

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I still feel like Snake and Sonic had the biggest reactions. Both because of different reasons.

I wasn't truly around during the Brawl speculation era but I can only imagine the impact both of them had on the franchise
I was here for the Sonic Reveal and it was pretty huge. And the fact it just showed out of nowhere without any fanfare or apparent leaks.

As for me, Cloud is think gets my vote. Not a huge fan of reaction videos but I think the whole Maximilian Dude video sums up just about everyone’s reaction to Cloud.

Chill the **** out, Sakurai.
 
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Never made one of these but curious. Which third party character had the biggest reveal reaction in terms of hype, surprise, excitement, shock, legacy, etc in Smash?

https://www.strawpoll.me/18165370
Snake, Sonic, Cloud, Joker, Mega Man and Banjo are probably the biggest ones.

I'd also nominate Ryu, but the leak the day before his reveal really hurt his impact unfortunately. Simon also falls in a similar boat, but not everyone saw the leak (I didn't) and his reaction was much more genuine and surprising, especially with Richter helping him in the surprise department.
 
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So here's the updated list of potential 3rd party characters. New ones are in bold, and if a character has been shot down it'll be noted.


Companies already on board
Resident Evil Character (Capcom)
Phoenix Wright (Capcom)
Chin-li/Akuma (Capcom)
Monster Hunter character (Capcom)
Bill/Lance (Konami)
Frogger (Konami, long shot)
Bimmy/Jimmy (Taito via Square)
Bub/Bob (Taito via Square)
Final Fantasy 7 character (Square)
Neku (Square)
Crono (Square)
Geno (Square)
Sora (Square/Disney) [Possibly debunked?]
Lara Croft (Eidos via Square)
Master Chief (Microsoft) [Possibly debunked?]
Steve Minecraft (Mojang via Microsoft)
Jonah Dark (Rare via Microsoft, very long shot, based of the fact she also got new merch like Banjo & Kazooie did)
Battletoads (Rare via Microsoft)
Fulgore (Rare Via Microsoft)
Heihatchi (Namco)

New Companies
Professor Layon (Level 5)
That cat Yokai (Level 5)
Crash Bandicoot (Activision)
Spyro the Dragon (Activision)
Ryu Hyabusa (Ninja Gaiden/ Dead or Alive, Koei Tecmo)
Shantae (Shantae, Wayforward)
Rayman (Rayman, Ubisoft)
Dragonborn (Skrim, Bethesda)
Doom Slayer/Doom Guy (Doom, ID Softworks)
Scorpion/Sub-Zero (Mortal Kombat!, Warner Brothers)
Reimu (Tou-hou, Team Shanghai Alice)
Cooking Mama (Cooking Mama, Office Create)
Travis Touchdown (No More Heroes, Suda 51)
[Possibly debunked]

I am not considering Undertale characters a possibility currently as it doesn't seem like Toby Fox's style. Unlike other indie games that crossover here there and everywhere, Undertale has only appeared in one other place I'm aware of. I could be wrong though.

Did I miss any?
Again, you forgot Rabbids. Also, name of the Yokai is Jinbanyan. Somebody mentioned Agumon as well earlier.
 

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Never made one of these but curious. Which third party character had the biggest reveal reaction in terms of hype, surprise, excitement, shock, legacy, etc in Smash?

https://www.strawpoll.me/18165370
Wasn't here for all of the reveals so can't say who left the biggest impact, but Snake is definitely up there in terms of pure shock - broke new grounds as our first third-party rep and it was Snake of all ****ing characters.
 

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So here's the updated list of potential 3rd party characters. New ones are in bold, and if a character has been shot down it'll be noted.


Companies already on board
Resident Evil Character (Capcom)
Phoenix Wright (Capcom)
Chin-li/Akuma (Capcom)
Monster Hunter character (Capcom)
Bill/Lance (Konami)
Frogger (Konami, long shot)
Bimmy/Jimmy (Taito via Square)
Bub/Bob (Taito via Square)
Final Fantasy 7 character (Square)
Neku (Square)
Crono (Square)
Geno (Square)
Sora (Square/Disney) [Possibly debunked?]
Lara Croft (Eidos via Square)
Master Chief (Microsoft) [Possibly debunked?]
Steve Minecraft (Mojang via Microsoft)
Jonah Dark (Rare via Microsoft, very long shot, based of the fact she also got new merch like Banjo & Kazooie did)
Battletoads (Rare via Microsoft)
Fulgore (Rare Via Microsoft)
Heihatchi (Namco)

New Companies
Professor Layon (Level 5)
That cat Yokai (Level 5)
Crash Bandicoot (Activision)
Spyro the Dragon (Activision)
Ryu Hyabusa (Ninja Gaiden/ Dead or Alive, Koei Tecmo)
Shantae (Shantae, Wayforward)
Rayman (Rayman, Ubisoft)
Dragonborn (Skrim, Bethesda)
Doom Slayer/Doom Guy (Doom, ID Softworks)
Scorpion/Sub-Zero (Mortal Kombat!, Warner Brothers)
Reimu (Tou-hou, Team Shanghai Alice)
Cooking Mama (Cooking Mama, Office Create)
Travis Touchdown (No More Heroes, Suda 51)
[Possibly debunked]

I am not considering Undertale characters a possibility currently as it doesn't seem like Toby Fox's style. Unlike other indie games that crossover here there and everywhere, Undertale has only appeared in one other place I'm aware of. I could be wrong though.

Did I miss any?
I'd throw in Dante from Devil May Cry as another Capcom rep.
 

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Honestly I'd be all for an Undertale character, just to see people away from this site complain. That game gets so much weird hate.
Feel like it might have something to do with perceptions of the fanbase - which makes no sense, because if you're going to avoid a series just because you don't like the fans then at least half the series represented in Smash would be off limits
 

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Feel like it might have something to do with perceptions of the fanbase - which makes no sense, because if you're going to avoid a series just because you don't like the fans then at least half the series represented in Smash would be off limits
Yeah if we're going to talk about bad fanbases, Smash itself has an... interesting base lol. This site is fantastic compared to the hellsites of twitter and reddit.
 

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Feel like I'm one of the only few who genuinely wants an Undertale rep.

And Sans isn't even my top pick, but I would scream for joy if he got it regardless.
 
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Feel like I'm one of the only few who genuinely wants an Undertale rep.

And Sans isn't even my top pick, but I would scream for joy if he got it regardless.
I would love Undertale just for the music alone.
 

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Ok, here's what I think will be the final revision of the list.

New ones are in bold, and if a character has been shot down it'll be noted.

Companies already on board
Resident Evil Character (Capcom)
Phoenix Wright (Capcom)
Chin-li/Akuma (Capcom)
Monster Hunter character (Capcom)
Dante (Capcom) [Been debunked?]
Bill/Lance (Konami)
Frogger (Konami, long shot)
Bimmy/Jimmy (Taito via Square)
Bub/Bob (Taito via Square)
Final Fantasy 7 character (Square)
Neku (Square)
Crono (Square)
Geno (Square)
Sora (Square/Disney) [Possibly debunked?]
Lara Croft (Eidos via Square)
Master Chief (Microsoft) [Possibly debunked?]
Steve Minecraft (Mojang via Microsoft)
Jonah Dark (Rare via Microsoft, very long shot, based of the fact she also got new merch like Banjo & Kazooie did)
Battletoads (Rare via Microsoft)
Fulgore (Rare Via Microsoft)
Heihatchi (Namco half)
Augumon/Digimon Rep (Bandai half)


New Companies
Professor Layon (Level 5)
Jibanyan (Level 5)
Crash Bandicoot (Activision)
Spyro the Dragon (Activision)
Ryu Hyabusa (Ninja Gaiden/ Dead or Alive, Koei Tecmo)
Shantae (Shantae, Wayforward)
Rayman (Rayman, Ubisoft)
Rabbids (Raving Rabbids, Ubisoft)
Dragonborn (Skrim, Bethesda)
Doom Slayer/Doom Guy (Doom, ID Softworks)
Scorpion/Sub-Zero (Mortal Kombat!, Warner Brothers)
Reimu (Tou-hou, Team Shanghai Alice)
Cooking Mama (Cooking Mama, Office Create)
Travis Touchdown (No More Heroes, Suda 51) [Possibly debunked]

I am not considering Undertale characters a possibility currently as it doesn't seem like Toby Fox's style. Unlike other indie games that crossover here there and everywhere, Undertale has only appeared in one other place I'm aware of. I could be wrong though. I am also not including Assist Trophy characters so sorry to Shovel Knight and Bomberman.
 
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Im curious about this. If a game has Same sex relationships but the chick gets 5+ options wherethe dudes gets 1, would you consider that fair or not?
I would be fine with anything as long as the relationships are better than the ones for Corrin in Fates.
 

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Ok, here's what I think will be the final revision of the list.

New ones are in bold, and if a character has been shot down it'll be noted.

Companies already on board
Resident Evil Character (Capcom)
Phoenix Wright (Capcom)
Chin-li/Akuma (Capcom)
Monster Hunter character (Capcom)
Dante (Capcom) [Been debunked?]
Bill/Lance (Konami)
Frogger (Konami, long shot)
Bimmy/Jimmy (Taito via Square)
Bub/Bob (Taito via Square)
Final Fantasy 7 character (Square)
Neku (Square)
Crono (Square)
Geno (Square)
Sora (Square/Disney) [Possibly debunked?]
Lara Croft (Eidos via Square)
Master Chief (Microsoft) [Possibly debunked?]
Steve Minecraft (Mojang via Microsoft)
Jonah Dark (Rare via Microsoft, very long shot, based of the fact she also got new merch like Banjo & Kazooie did)
Battletoads (Rare via Microsoft)
Fulgore (Rare Via Microsoft)
Heihatchi (Namco half)
Augumon/Digimon Rep (Bandai half)


New Companies
Professor Layon (Level 5)
Jibanyan (Level 5)
Crash Bandicoot (Activision)
Spyro the Dragon (Activision)
Ryu Hyabusa (Ninja Gaiden/ Dead or Alive, Koei Tecmo)
Shantae (Shantae, Wayforward)
Rayman (Rayman, Ubisoft)
Rabbids (Raving Rabbids, Ubisoft)
Dragonborn (Skrim, Bethesda)
Doom Slayer/Doom Guy (Doom, ID Softworks)
Scorpion/Sub-Zero (Mortal Kombat!, Warner Brothers)
Reimu (Tou-hou, Team Shanghai Alice)
Cooking Mama (Cooking Mama, Office Create)
Travis Touchdown (No More Heroes, Suda 51) [Possibly debunked]

I am not considering Undertale characters a possibility currently as it doesn't seem like Toby Fox's style. Unlike other indie games that crossover here there and everywhere, Undertale has only appeared in one other place I'm aware of. I could be wrong though. I am also not including Assist Trophy characters so sorry to Shovel Knight and Bomberman.
Lloyd Irving from Tales is also a possibility, he had a Mii Fighter costume in Smash 4. Maybe Nightmare/Siegfried from SoulCalibur as well, Link was a guest in SC2. Both are Bamco.
 

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unfair
why do you ask
it is said both sexes have same sex relationships but the female has more then the male. Granted the leaker said it wasnt finished
but I was mostly curious about how people here just feel about that

common sense would say people would think its unfair
 
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it is said both sexes have same sex relationships but the femal has more then the male. Granted the leaker said it wasnt finished
but I was mostly curious about how people here just feel about that

common sense would say people would think its unfair
I just hope that they are better than on Fates.

Besides that, yeah I kind of agree.
 

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Im curious about this. If a game has Same sex relationships but the chick gets 5+ options wherethe dudes gets 1, would you consider that fair or not?
It's objectively unfair.

Not that genders in romance routes are a bigger deal than actual writing.
 

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it is said both sexes have same sex relationships but the female has more then the male. Granted the leaker said it wasnt finished
but I was mostly curious about how people here just feel about that

common sense would say people would think its unfair
Definitely unfair
Are people saying differently? Cause that's dumb if so
 

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it is said both sexes have same sex relationships but the female has more then the male. Granted the leaker said it wasnt finished
but I was mostly curious about how people here just feel about that

common sense would say people would think its unfair
Well, if it was to a ridiculous degree it would be unfair. If it was like a one or two difference, then I don't think it would be that bad and more a result of the composition of characters. Either way, I would hope that the writing would be good. If the relationships are portrayed to an equal level of care for voth genders, I would be more okay with the composition difference.
 

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Never made one of these but curious. Which third party character had the biggest reveal reaction in terms of hype, surprise, excitement, shock, legacy, etc in Smash?

https://www.strawpoll.me/18165370
Sonic imo, if I were to tier community reactions, he'd have his own tier at the top. Many of the people who were part of Brawl speculation grew up during that SNES vs Sega Genesis era, so other than the fact that Sonic is a titan of a video game character to begin with, the whole concept of being able to have Mario fight Sonic was a childhood dream come true for so many. His announcement even reached mainstream news sites, which for just a single addition to a video game was unheard of at the time. The circumstances were a bit different back then, Smash speculation wasn't as widespread as it was mostly restricted to dedicated forums, and characters were just dropped on the website at random rather than being at events where millions watch simultaneously, yet he still got such a strong reaction, in terms of pure excitement I don't think there's any comparison.

And that's coming from someone who at the time didn't even want Sonic in the game, I was too young to really appreciate the significance of his inclusion, but there's just no denying the impact it had. I'd say Sonic > Cloud > Banjo, although I think Mega Man is pretty underrated on the poll so far, the difference between Banjo and him wasn't that big.
 

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Well, if it was to a ridiculous degree it would be unfair. If it was like a one or two difference, then I don't think it would be that bad and more a result of the composition of characters. Either way, I would hope that the writing would be good. If the relationships are portrayed to an equal level of care for voth genders, I would be more okay with the composition difference.
All I ask for out of IS is that I can romance Dimitri and Claude as Male Byleth because I dont wanna play as the girl:034:
 
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Sonic imo, if I were to tier community reactions, he'd have his own tier at the top. Many of the people who were part of Brawl speculation grew up during that SNES vs Sega Genesis era, so other than the fact that Sonic is a titan of a video game character to begin with, the whole concept of being able to have Mario fight Sonic was a childhood dream come true for so many. His announcement even reached mainstream news sites, which for just a single addition to a video game was unheard of at the time. The circumstances were a bit different back then, Smash speculation wasn't as widespread as it was mostly restricted to dedicated forums, and characters were just dropped on the website at random rather than being at events where millions watch simultaneously, yet he still got such a strong reaction, in terms of pure excitement I don't think there's any comparison.

And that's coming from someone who at the time didn't even want Sonic in the game, I was too young to really appreciate the significance of his inclusion, but there's just no denying the impact it had. I'd say Sonic > Cloud > Banjo, although I think Mega Man is pretty underrated on the poll so far, the difference between Banjo and him wasn't that big.
Especially given that Sonic had a couple of official "don't count on it" statements. The game was delayed to add him.
 
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