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[Shroob]

So the Game Awards are likely. A whole goddamn month ugh. Not the worst, but still isn't preferred.

Eh, it's exactly a one month wait.


We'll be more than okay.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Bandai Namco X Super Smash Bros Ultimate

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Its my son

 

[CannonStreak]

Holy ****ing ****. This could explain a whole lot of stuff if true. What a mess this generation of Pokemon turned out to be.

Spoiler: Big image

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So, this is likely going to be bad like Sonic 06? Or close to it? Or halfway close to it?

 

[Shyy_Guy595]

No lie, but Danny Phantom would probably be busted as hell in a Nick fighting game. Like, how do you properly incorporate his powers into the game without it being busted?

 

[Hat N' Clogs]

I have begun to watch the animated Batman series released in the 90s. My body is ready.

 

[Shroob]

So, this is likely going to be bad like Sonic 06? Or close to it? Or halfway close to it?

No. Sonic 06 is an unplayable mess. SwSd FUNCTIONS, but the fact it still struggles with frame rates is pretty ****ing terrible.

 

[Mamboo07]

No lie, but Danny Phantom would probably be busted as hell in a Nick fighting game. Like, how do you properly incorporate his powers into the game without it being busted?

What do you mean he's busted?

 

[CannonStreak]

No. Sonic 06 is an unplayable mess. SwSd FUNCTIONS, but the fact it still struggles with frame rates is pretty ****ing terrible.

That is why I said halfway, or maybe less than halfway?

P.S.: Sonic 06, to me, wasn't that unplayable.

 

[Diem]

Holy ****ing ****. This could explain a whole lot of stuff if true. What a mess this generation of Pokemon turned out to be.

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This isn't surprising to me. That explains the conflicting statements from the past about the 3DS models being made to be futureproofed, followed by the recent statements where GameFreak said they remade the models. The whole game always looked like a technical disaster. It's the same system that holds Breath of the Wild and Super Mario Odyssey, yet Sword and Shield look and feel like upscaled 3DS games.

I'm very curious to know more about their engine. Did they reuse the 3DS engine, but something went wrong with how it imports/reads assets? Or did they try to make a new engine couldn't spend enough time on it because they needed to scramble to recreate a bunch of assets?

 

[Shadowwolflink]

And they didn't put as much work as they should have in this game, and imagine how the fans will react when they end up not liking this. Can someone say "I have been ripped off by paying 60 dollars"?

If those people saw all of the information that has been available over the last couple months in regards to lack of content, bad animations, low quality graphics, etc then that's their own fault.

People who preordered the game before some of the information came out got to cancel their preorders, that's the most they're going to get.

If a company advertises a turd and you say "you're all being negative, it'll be fine", and the company plops a turd down in front of you, it's your own fault.

 

[Shyy_Guy595]

What do you mean he's busted?

He can become invisible and intangible and has good range. In a fight that's the most annoying combination of abilities.

 

[Shroob]

I mean, I dunno how much we can actually trust that dude but.


Yeah, they flat out said that they future proofed the models.


And dataminers are saying that the old Pokemon straight up are still the 3DS models that just get an HD texture slapped onto them when they're used.


The story checks out. Now can we trust them? Dunno, but it really does seem like, factoring in everything, nothing more than technical ignorance.

 

[BZL8]

I am of the mind that the model importer ****ing up caused a snowball effect that affected everything in the game's development. This would explain everything about development going wrong and morale being low at Game Freak.

 

[CannonStreak]

If those people saw all of the information that has been available over the last couple months in regards to lack of content, bad animations, low quality graphics, etc then that's their own fault.

People who preordered the game before some of the information came out got to cancel their preorders, that's the most they're going to get.

If a company advertises a turd and you say "you're all being negative, it'll be fine", and the company plops a turd down in front of you, it's your own fault.

Yeah, I know. That said, though, even though it is their fault, I still feel that the makers of this game are taking advantage of their, er, gullibility.

 

[Zinith]

Yoshi's Crafted World is proof you can make an engine that otherwise looks like utter **** on the Switch beautiful. You just need.... well, time to do it

 

[Shyy_Guy595]

Anyways RIP to Sword and Shield. Probably not gonna get them and wait for super SwSh or the Gen 4 remakes.

 

[BZL8]

Yoshi's Crafted World is proof you can make an engine that otherwise looks like utter **** on the Switch beautiful. You just need.... well, time to do it

Well you can thank Epic Games and their Unreal Engine for that game. Helps they have a lot of HD console development under their belt.

 

[RodNutTakin]

Reptar is too big. He'll never get in

Also, what is it about Otis that I crack up every time I look at him? His movie wasn't even that funny

*sees Lincoln on the roster*
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To be fair, my favourite white haired boy would be my number 1 main if this was real.

Glad to see the positive responses! Again, I can definitely spill the beans on the making of this image and my character choices. I put a lot of thought into making this, in fact, what you're looking at right here is in fact my third revision to this image since its original creation, the fifth if I were to count the images I made back when Smash 4 was the latest game released.
I even made an alternative version of this image based off the Grinch and 5chan hoaxes just for fun.

 

[CannonStreak]

One more thing about Pokemon Sword and Shield and Sonic 06, last thing, it seems as if the development for the former games (Pokemon) is almost as bad as that as Sonic 06's development, with what was going on behind the scenes, if smaller than 06's. Just saying.

 

[Diem]

Looking past #DexIt, it's clear that Pokemon Sword/Shield doesn't seem to be put together well. Poor visuals, bad framerate etc for a Switch game. I really think the game should have been delayed so it would have more polish.

A point I've heard made about why the game couldn't be delayed has to do with the Pokemon media franchise as a whole. The games are the centerpiece, but orbiting them are the trading cards, anime, manga, and other merchandise and tie-ins.

Delaying the game means delaying/interfering with that entire web of business. You have to tell the people making the anime, the plushies, and the trading cards to delay their stuff, too, and then the whole thing becomes a mess.

A simple cost/benefit analysis would show that the risks of delaying the game and screwing up the entire business roadmap are way higher than selling the game anyways even if it might not be very critically well received. The game's going to sell millions anyways, so taking some heat is nothing compared to throwing a wrench in an entire business plan.

But now there's the long-term problem of this generation being a laughingstock and damaging the brand. Unless they really impress with the next games, Pokemon won't recover easily from this controversy.

 

[Shroob]

I mean, thinking about it a little harder.


"We're adding Pokemon that fit the region."

Spoiler

Yes, the Yorkshire Terrier and Bulldog don't fit at all.


But a cactus and dragon based on Polynesian Warriors are perfectly British enough.

 

[MainJPW]

One more thing about Pokemon Sword and Shield and Sonic 06, last thing, it seems as if the development for the former games (Pokemon) is almost as bad as that as Sonic 06's development, with what was going on behind the scenes, if smaller than 06's. Just saying.

It seems more like this comparison is completely random and unwarranted.

 

[Shadowwolflink]

Yeah, I know. That said, though, even though it is their fault, I still feel that the makers of this game are taking advantage of their, er, gullibility.

Of course they're taking advantage of people. They're a company, they're all about that bottom line. If they can put the least amount of care, effort, and work possible into something and still make bank, then why wouldn't they?

I really hope this clues people in to not blindly buy Pokemon games because "aww cute puppymon," but I pretty much know it'll just happen again in a year or 2.

 

[Deleted member]

I still need to play FE 3 Houses and Luigi’s Mansion 3.

 

[Zinith]

Well you can thank Epic Games and their Unreal Engine for that game. Helps they have a lot of HD console development under their belt.

Unreal Engine actually has had performance issues with the Switch. As far as I know, YCW is the only one that runs at 60 fps

 

[Deleted member]

Unreal Engine actually has had performance issues with the Switch. As far as I know, YCW is the only one that runs at 60 fps

Hopefully future Unreal Engine titles on Switch manage to run with similar polish.

 

[BZL8]

To quote Boardwalk Empire's Arnold Rothstein: "Reputation takes a lifetime to build and only seconds to destroy."

Even if they decide to bring every feature back, people aren't going to live this one down.

 

[Shroob]

Real mood hours:


Smash:

"I'm going to keep adding DLC characters to keep the game going for as long as I can/want to." ~ Sakurai.


Animal Crossing:

"We need to delay it a bit to improve it."

Metroid Prime 4:

"We weren't happy with it, so we're starting from scratch."


Pokemon:

"**** WE GOT TO GET IT OUT BY NOVEMBER TO MEET BLACK FRIDAY!"

 

[CannonStreak]

It seems more like this comparison is completely random and unwarranted.

So, sue me. I just had to make that comparison because the PR stuff sounds like the Pokemon Sword and Shield games's development was bad. Now, Sonic 06's behind the scenes could have been worse, but it was bad just like how Pokemon Sword and Shield's development seemed to be. Believe me, I can see some similarities between the game's development.

Of course they're taking advantage of people. They're a company, they're all about that bottom line. If they can put the least amount of care, effort, and work possible into something and still make bank, then why wouldn't they?

I really hope this clues people in to not blindly buy Pokemon games because "aww cute puppymon," but I pretty much know it'll just happen again in a year or 2.

Sadly, you are right, it will happen again. But then again, what company doesn't take advantage of anyone's trust, for a lack of a better word?

 

[Shyy_Guy595]

Anyways, not suprised Mewtwo somehow found his way in. Was a little odd to see the Keldeo quartet and Kyurem trio in it but I suppose "theming with the region" would make some sense.

 

[Mamboo07]

A Godzilla fan art i found here.

Godzilla: The King of the Monsters
Rodan: The Fire Demon
Kong: The 8th Wonder
M.U.T.Os: The Nightmarish Parasites
Shinomura: The Shapeshifting Terror
Ghidorah: The Death Song of 3 Storms
Skullcrawlers: The Devils from Beneath
Mothra: The Queen of the Monsters

 

[CannonStreak]

Anyways, not suprised Mewtwo somehow found his way in. Was a little odd to see the Keldeo quartet and Kyurem trio in it but I suppose "theming with the region", would make some sense.

Mewtwo's in? That is good, at least. I mean, if Mew was said to be in, I believe you can't have Mew without Mewtwo.

 

[Guynamednelson]

I mean, thinking about it a little harder.


"We're adding Pokemon that fit the region."

Spoiler

Yes, the Yorkshire Terrier and Bulldog don't fit at all.


But a cactus and dragon based on Polynesian Warriors are perfectly British enough.

Spoiler

Bellossom not being in Alola 2.0

 

[Shyy_Guy595]

You can totally have Mew without Mewtwo. And vice versa because Mew gets nothing unique to it while Mewtwo gets everything which is ironic given Mewtwo is the clone and not the original.

 

[BZL8]

Real mood hours:


Smash:

"I'm going to keep adding DLC characters to keep the game going for as long as I can/want to." ~ Sakurai.


Animal Crossing:

"We need to delay it a bit to improve it."

Metroid Prime 4:

"We weren't happy with it, so we're starting from scratch."


Pokemon:

"**** WE GOT TO GET IT OUT BY NOVEMBER TO MEET BLACK FRIDAY!"

Fire Emblem:
"We really need a lot more time, so we're delaying it into next year."

 

[Deleted member]

Metroid Prime 4:

"We weren't happy with it, so we're starting from scratch."

God, I’m so hyped for that game.

I really want to get my hands on a Metroid game for Switch, more so as someone who sadly doesn’t have an Online subscription for Super Metroid.

 

[CannonStreak]

You can totally have Mew without Mewtwo. And vice versa because Mew gets nothing unique to it while Mewtwo gets everything which is ironic given Mewtwo is the clone and not the original.

Yeah, whatever. What I meant, which I accidentally did not point out, that given Mewtwo is based off of Mew, DNA wise, I was wondering why Mewtwo was initially said to not get in. Sure, a bit silly, but just a thought.

 

[Shyy_Guy595]

God, I’m so hyped for that game.

I really want to get my hands on a Metroid game for Switch, more so as someone who sadly doesn’t have an Online subscription for Super Metroid.

Aww dang. Super Metroid was pretty fun.

But I can't wait for MP4 as well. It'll be my first 3D Metroid.

Let's also not forget Bayo 3 was also delayed.

 

[CannonStreak]

Aww dang. Super Metroid was pretty fun.

But I can't wait for MP4 as well. It'll be my first 3D Metroid.

Well, Other M was my first Metroid game, and I liked it, but again, that was my first Metroid game, so I can safely say there are better Metroid games I have not played.

 

[Deleted member]

Aww dang. Super Metroid was pretty fun.

But I can't wait for MP4 as well. It'll be my first 3D Metroid.

If they port the Prime Trilogy on Switch, I would seriously suggest you to give the games a chance!

I personally believe they are some of the best motion control games ever made, since it really makes you feel as if you control Samus’ armour.

Also for lore stuff.