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I think long meowth is pretty dumb. But hey, what ya gonna do.

Honestly, they need to stop announcing trailers beforehand. That way, people don’t get their expectations up for something that’s not their. I wouldn’t have gotten as mad if I had known it was a gigantamax trailer when I first found out about it.
Nah they need to learn to show **** people would want to know like I don't know, more non Gen 1 Galar forms as only one has been shown, Legendary typings, evolutions of what we saw, etc
 

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Theory: We don't receive the final Evolutions of the starters until after the game releases.
 

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The marketing for Sword/Shield is so bad, it will be a miracle that these games still sell 15 million on brand strength alone.
 

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What if the starters just don't evolve and it's like smt where you combine pokemon to make new ones
 

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What if the starters just don't evolve and it's like smt where you combine pokemon to make new ones
I’m not convinced the starters actually evolve at this rate.
Grookey's file name on the Gigantamax website was Gorilla1, implying the existence of evolutions. Duraludon, meanwhile, didn't have a number, implying it didn't evolve.
 

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You guys have clearly forgot what it was like in the first few Gens when we didn't see the final form of the starters until release.

Calm down. You can survive another month if that's what it takes.

The marketing for Sword/Shield is so bad, it will be a miracle that these games still sell 15 million on brand strength alone.
Three Houses did okay, and it barely had any advertisements.

Plus, Let's Go Pikachu/Eevee sold 12 million in six months despite being a third remake of Gen 1 and incorporating Let's Go elements. SwSh will be fine.
 
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I think people will start realizing that Game Freak just aren't a good developer and they've been coasting on Pokemon's popularity for at least a decade.
Here's the thing, they never were good developers, mediocre at best. Just look at what a broken mess Gen 1 is and keep in mind the international versions already had some bugs fixed from the Japanese versions. It's just, at least for me, the 3DS era takes the cake. The system already started to crap itself when more than two Pokemon were in battle, yet they thought it was a good idea to introduce hordes? Not to mention how utterly inefficient their decryption methods are and slow things down even further, according to dataminers. And that's not even going into how artificially bloated their file structure is, if we're taking them by word. For example, every cutscene in SM has a Lillie model, instead of having a global one that gets used for them all. Of course I haven't verified that myself, but I don't see a reason why they'd lie, as they have a reputation to uphold.

An always remember when Wi-Fi battles in, I think it was XY, sent data unencrypted, meaning people made software which tells you what move your opponent was going to do. Look up "Battle Analyer". It's been fixed by now, but still, WTH Game Freak.
 

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Nah they need to learn to show **** people would want to know like I don't know, more non Gen 1 Galar forms as only one has been shown, Legendary typings, evolutions of what we saw, etc
Honestly, the thing that hurts the most about us not seeing the final evolutions is the knowledge that we have to keep waiting afterwards.

At this point I’m just tired of waiting. I feel like I’m waiting for everything and some of those things will never come, but I don’t know they won’t come so I’m still waiting.
 

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Grookey's file name on the Gigantamax website was Gorilla1, implying the existence of evolutions. Duraludon, meanwhile, didn't have a number, implying it didn't evolve.
I was having a giggle mate.

Still think this is gonna be the gen with the least new Pokemon by a considerable margin.
 

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Grookey's file name on the Gigantamax website was Gorilla1, implying the existence of evolutions. Duraludon, meanwhile, didn't have a number, implying it didn't evolve.
Or it implies the existence of other gorrilas
 

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You guys have clearly forgot what it was like in the first few Gens when we didn't see the final form of the starters until release.

Calm down. You can survive another month if that's what it takes.



Three Houses did okay, and it barely had any advertisements.

Plus, Let's Go Pikachu/Eevee sold 12 million in six months despite being a third remake of Gen 1 and incorporating Let's Go elements. SwSh will be fine.
In the first handful of gens we had more than a tiny handful of info, your point?
We know it'll be fine, that's the problem. Pokemon sells itself on brand recognition alone yet people aren't allowed to have criticisms
 

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At the rate we’re going, we’ll see the end of the Fighters Pass before the starters evolutions.
 

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In the first handful of gens we had more than a tiny handful of info, your point?
We know it'll be fine, that's the problem. Pokemon sells itself on brand recognition alone yet people aren't allowed to have criticisms
Personally I'm getting it because I think it looks good, not just because it's pokemon
 

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I was having a giggle mate.

Still think this is gonna be the gen with the least new Pokemon by a considerable margin.
Believe it or not I've seen people legitimately suggest it, lol. Just wanted to be safe.

But yeah I definitely agree. Part of me is thinking they're not holding back on reveals due to revealing too much last time, but rather there isn't much left TO hold back.
 

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Dear GameFreak,

I already know that this game is disappointing. It doesn’t do anything very interesting with its gameplay and it has pretty poor presentation. The only thing I have left that could excite me is the Pokémon themselves. And so far, the only one I like is Alcreamie. I might like the starters, they all look nice and cute, but I don’t want to get attached to something that’s going to loose everything I like about it once it evolves. I just want something to be excited for. If this isn’t for me, I’d like to know. So please, rip the bandaid off and let me move on with my life.

Sincerely yours,
A potential fan.
 

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Btw let's prepare ourselves for how all 151 Kanto mons are likely in
It'd be worse if there were any Kanto cuts.

They're all in Let's Go, a Switch game. Literally the easiest bunch to port over. If they cut any of them, it only further confirms that the Dex cut was done out of corporate greed rather than developer incompetence.
 

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In the first handful of gens we had more than a tiny handful of info, your point?
We know it'll be fine, that's the problem. Pokemon sells itself on brand recognition alone yet people aren't allowed to have criticisms
You're allowed to critisize the game and point out the flaws, but at least be mindful of those who are still interested in SwSh despite how you feel.

We don't need 3-5 pages of you making jokes about Charizard, Kanto, and starter evos. Your point's been made.
 
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You guys have clearly forgot what it was like in the first few Gens when we didn't see the final form of the starters until release.

Calm down. You can survive another month if that's what it takes.
TFW I didn't know the Pokemon of Gen 4 until after I looked them all up months later.
 

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You're allowed to critisize the game and point out the flaws, but at least be mindful of those who are still interested in SwSh despite how you feel.

We don't need 3-5 pages of you making jokes about Charizard, Kanto, and starter evos. Your point's been made.
Oh I'm sorry for being mean to people who like something different by saying I'm not happy with a franchise I love
 

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All of you are expecting Ryu as fighter five, just you wait till it’s Meowth instead.

“Meowth Dat’s Right!”
 
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You're allowed to critisize the game and point out the flaws, but at least be mindful of those who are still interested in SwSh despite how you feel.

We don't need 3-5 pages of you making jokes about Charizard, Kanto, and starter evos. Your point's been made.
We'll stop joking about Charizard when GF stops with the pandering. Seems like a fair trade.
 

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And with Butterfree looking like mothra, I wonder if that rumor of the other Godzilla inspired gigantamax forms is true.
 

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Here's the thing, they never were good developers, mediocre at best. Just look at what a broken mess Gen 1 is and keep in mind the international versions already had some bugs fixed from the Japanese versions. It's just, at least for me, the 3DS era takes the cake. The system already started to crap itself when more than two Pokemon were in battle, yet they thought it was a good idea to introduce hordes? Not to mention how utterly inefficient their decryption methods are and slow things down even further, according to dataminers. And that's not even going into how artificially bloated their file structure is, if we're taking them by word. For example, every cutscene in SM has a Lillie model, instead of having a global one that gets used for them all. Of course I haven't verified that myself, but I don't see a reason why they'd lie, as they have a reputation to uphold.

An always remember when Wi-Fi battles in, I think it was XY, sent data unencrypted, meaning people made software which tells you what move your opponent was going to do. Look up "Battle Analyer". It's been fixed by now, but still, WTH Game Freak.
Oh, I definitely agree, I just felt like being a little bit nice and giving them at least some leeway. But then again, giving them an inch and them taking a mile is how we ended up where we are now.

Pokemon just deserves better than Game Freak.
 

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With all of this Generation 1 pandering, you'd think Game Freak would just create new regions and reintroduce the Kanto Pokémon in different flavors as opposed to just creating new 'Mons that they'll never pay any attention to in subsequent games.
What if you wanted Volcarona.png

I miss the Fifth Generation...
 

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Oh I'm sorry for being mean to people who like something different by saying I'm not happy with a franchise I love
And you've pointed out how disappointed you are with SwSh. Multiple times in fact.

We get how you feel, but you're being a wet blanket. Seems like whenever someone mentions something positive about today's announcement, you either ignore it or try to steer the conversation back to something negative.
 

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And you've pointed out how disappointed you are with SwSh. Multiple times in fact.

We get how you feel, but you're being a wet blanket. Seems like whenever someone mentions something positive about today's announcement, you either ignore it or try to steer the conversation back to something negative.
Maybe that's because it's a hot topic due to happening today with me only getting to see it fully myself just now. We get it, you can't stand the thoughts of the elite being criticized by us peasants
 

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Oh, I definitely agree, I just felt like being a little bit nice and giving them at least some leeway. But then again, giving them an inch and them taking a mile is how we ended up where we are now.

Pokemon just deserves better than Game Freak.
I really wanna see what a Square Enix developed Pokémon game would look like.

Just keep on the creative team from GameFreak. The only thing they’re good at is actually coming up with the Pokémon.
 

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Y’all are straight up giving me depression.

I’m sick of the fighting, from both sides. I wish we could all just get along on this, but I know we won’t. We never will. This is the future, forever. Good times are over forever.

**** sucks man.
 
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