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[TheMightyP]

The thing with Robot and Monster is that the show got pulled away so fast, there was like an entire seasons worth of lost episodes.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Good night y'all. Will chat more tomorrow.

 

[Deleted member]

Also Super Mario 64 is what defined 3d platformers to begin with in a time where 2d games were all the rage. Really, I'm not buying 3d Mario as safe as you'd expect.

Love it or hate it, FLUDD made Mario Sunshine more than Super Mario 64 2 and gave the player a lot of fun ways to travel the worlds.

Galaxy is basically Sunshine but refined and IN SPACE

3D World is what happens when you take the 2d formula and expand it into 3d with multiplayer, bright worlds, and a jazzin' soundtrack.

This is also ignoring spinoffs.

2D Mario needs a reboot of some kind, though. Not even the NES games were as formulaic and dry as the New Super Mario Bros series.

 

[Z25]

Saw it chapter 2. It was pretty good. The main cast sell their roles very well. The ending was pretty nice too.

 

[Noipoi]

But would it have the same impact to someone who’s not a huge Mario fan?

If you just like platformers, you’ll probably still love it.

If you hate Mario and want the poor plumber dead, you’d probably hate it even if it was the best game of all time.

The thing with Robot and Monster is that the show got pulled away so fast, there was like an entire seasons worth of lost episodes.

I liked that show for the five minutes it was on.

 

[TheCJBrine]

If we’re going by just memories, then I do remember some cartoon with a buff guy and a talking sword that was female, but I don’t know what it was called. The memory is so old and I feel like I was a baby because I was stuck on a bed or something and couldn’t get up; don’t know how it’s still in my head...I think it was a Disney cartoon. Honestly it could’ve been some Hercules spinoff series probably because that’s what I feel the guy looked like, but I don’t get why he’d have a sword so *shrug*

There were also some cartoons on Discovery Channel and whatever that I’m not sure how to explain.

 

[Deleted member]

Idk. From what i’ve Seen it still looks pretty safe.

Like, I feel like if you stripped Odyssey if it’s Mario banding, it wouldn’t get as much praise. Maybe i’ll Sing a different tune if I ever actually play it. But that’s the impression i’ve Got from what i’ve Seen.

Does branding make literally any video game automatically bad?

 

[TheMightyP]

The most "play it safe game" on the Siwtch isn't even Mario or Zelda.

It's Kirby, which right now is starting to become notorious for how play-it-safe the series has become.

I mean, every wonder why people REALLY want a 3D Kirby game?

 

[Noipoi]

If we’re going by just memories, then I do remember some cartoon with a buff guy and a talking sword that was female, but I don’t know what it was called. The memory is so old and I feel like I was a baby because I was stuck on a bed or something and couldn’t get up; don’t know how it’s still in my head...

There were also some cartoons on Discovery Channel and whatever that I’m not sure how to explain.

Dave the Barbarian!

Bejabbers!

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Jesus ****ing christ Cyril, what were you eating in the 5 years I was gone that made you grow up like that?!

 

[Zinith]

I would never do that. Honestly, I feel like, when judging the quality of a series, you need to drop the 2-3 worst games in the series from your perception. Like how a college professor will drop your lowest test score.

Alright, so the way I see it, the worst Yoshi games are New Island (obviously), Topsy-Turvy and Yoshi's Safari. I don't know if Touch & Go counts as a "game" technically much in the same way those Zelda Picross ones on the eShop don't.

So that leaves:

Yoshi (NES): fun
Yoshi's Cookie: haven't played, but I don't see any complaints lately
Yoshi's Island: Need I elaborate?
Tetris Attack: fun, even if bizarre as ****
Yoshi's Story: great
Yoshi Touch & Go: Alright fine, I'll count it!!! Okay, but short
Yoshi's Island DS: It's fine
Yoshi's Woolly World: Almost as excellent as YI
Yoshi's Crafted World: great

 

[SnakeFighter64]

Does branding make literally any video game automatically bad?

People hate Nuts and Bolts pretty much exclusively because it’s branded a Banjo game. I say there’s a precedent.

If you just like platformers, you’ll probably still love it.

If you hate Mario and want the poor plumber dead, you’d probably hate it even if it was the best game of all time.

And that’s why it’s going on the Christmas list and not the self-purchase list. I’ll probably be more lenient on it if I don’t have to pay for it.

*procedes to spend an hour just jumping off a cliff in game*

 

[TheCJBrine]

Dave the Barbarian!

Bejabbers!

oh, that’s what it was?

I’ve never seen it aside from that one time, all these years I just assumed it was some Hercules thing based on that short memory.

 

[Noipoi]

People hate Nuts and Bolts pretty much exclusively because it’s branded a Banjo game. I say there’s a precedent.


And that’s why it’s going on the Christmas list and not the self-purchase list. I’ll probably be more lenient on it if I don’t have to pay for it.

*procedes to spend an hour just jumping off a cliff in game*

Man, Mario didn’t do **** to you.

We really live in a society.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

Man, Mario didn’t do **** to you.

We really live in a society.

Not on purpose he didn’t. But he has plenty to answer for.

I’ll give him a fair shot. But he’s going to have to do an awful lot to make up for what he’s done.

 

[Noipoi]

Not on purpose he didn’t. But he has plenty to answer for.

I’ll give him a fair shot. But he’s going to have to do an awful lot to make up for what he’s done.

...the **** did he do???

Ya makin it sound like he’s committed war crimes Jesus Christ.

 

[Shyy_Guy595]

You know what series really deserves a comeback after so many memes about the quality of the series dwindling over the years?

Sonic the ****ing Hedgehog. One of the most iconic video game characters deserves better.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

...the **** did he do???

You know. I’ve spoken about it before.

And I don’t feel like making people even more angry by repeating it so I am officially clamming up.

 

[TheCJBrine]

People hate Nuts and Bolts pretty much exclusively because it’s branded a Banjo game. I say there’s a precedent.


And that’s why it’s going on the Christmas list and not the self-purchase list. I’ll probably be more lenient on it if I don’t have to pay for it.

*procedes to spend an hour just jumping off a cliff in game*

People only hate Nuts & Bolts because it’s not Banjo-Threeie and ditches the series’ previous genre.

A lot still like it, though, including me. There are a few bits of dialogue where Banjo seems a bit too rude for his character, though.

 

[Wyoming]

...the **** did he do???

Ya makin it sound like he’s committed war crimes Jesus Christ.

Nintendo killed all these dead platforming series with Mario like
uh
Bubsy
and..

 

[Zinith]

Yoshi games are fun, but I think a lot of people get this "rinse and repeat" feeling from them.

I've played every game in the series, and it didn't recapture my attention until Woolly World (and even then, the art style and music is what drew me to it, not the gameplay.) I just don't think it's a series that can pull off repetitiveness like 2D Mario games can, or at least not as well. Each game needs something really innovative in order to convince people to buy it, whereas new power-ups are usually enough for 2D Mario games. There doesn't need to be any drastic changes in gameplay for the latter.

I don't know if I agree with this just yet. I kinda wanna hear more specifics

Yoshi isn't a series that's heavily reliant on power-ups as Mario is...

 

[Noipoi]

You know. I’ve spoken about it before.

And I don’t feel like making people even more angry by repeating it so I am officially clamming up.

You’re an enigma wrapped in an anomaly contained in a very very concerning jar.

You know what series really deserves a comeback after so many memes about the quality of the series dwindling over the years?

Sonic the ****ing Hedgehog. One of the most iconic video game characters deserves better.

Sonic Adventure 3

 

[SnakeFighter64]

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You’re an enigma wrapped in an anomaly contained in a very very concerning jar.


Sonic Adventure 3

Guh-huh!

 

[Deleted member]

People hate Nuts and Bolts pretty much exclusively because it’s branded a Banjo game. I say there’s a precedent.

Snake oh my god.

People don't hate Nuts & Bolts because it's a Banjo game. People hated it because it wasn't a Banjo game. Microsoft advertised it as a return of the duo, but failed to clarify the car gimmick until it released. Christ sake.

Nobody ****ing likes Mario Odyssey because it's a Mario game. They enjoy it because it's fun. Even people who've never played a 3d Mario game can appreciate **** from Odyssey.

 

[Tako Tuesday]

I have a gaming confession to make, I apologize for saying what I'm about to say in advance. Ready? Ok.

Mario Odyssey was a bit of a disappointment for me. I know, I know, but hear me out. My issues with the game come from a few things. I feel like aside from standout worlds like Luncheon Kingdom or New Donk City, most of the worlds kinda felt a little standard. Still beautiful stages that were fun to play, but a bit on the standard Mario side. This one doesn't bother me too much, it's more of a nitpick.

Another thing I wasn't too fond of is that Moons just weren't satisfying to get. It's a collectathon, so I was hoping collecting things would feel more impactful, I suppose. But Moons are so common, and you can get them so easily in some cases that they stop feeling like a reward, and more like just things you need to move on to the next world.

My last issue is the soundtrack, which aside from standouts like Jump Up, Superstar!, Brake Free, Wooded Kingdom and New Donk just felt a little forgettable, I feel. Don't get me wrong, they're all good tracks but some just don't stand out to me and kind of blend in a little.

Overall, I still really enjoyed the game (that ending was phenomenal, btw), It just didn't feel as memorable overall as the Galaxy games or 64.

 

[TheCJBrine]

Y’know, if it wasn’t for Mario, Bubsy and tank controls would probably be leading the 3D platformer market right now.

 

[Noipoi]

Y’know, if it wasn’t for Mario, Bubsy and tank controls would probably be leading the 3D platformer market right now.

If it wasn’t for Mario there wouldn’t be video games anymore. At least not how we know them.

 

[Tako Tuesday]

Y’know, if it wasn’t for Mario, Bubsy and tank controls would probably be leading the 3D platformer market right now.

*flashbacks of Bubsy 3D* Oh dear god, anything but that.

 

[Zinith]

Y’know, if it wasn’t for Mario, Bubsy and tank controls would probably be leading the 3D platformer market right now.

Well also straight, linear 3D stages established by Crash Bandicoot

Or if I interpret history to my benefit, that would mean Argonaut would make that 3D Yoshi game after all

 

[TheCJBrine]

If it wasn’t for Mario there wouldn’t be video games anymore. At least not how we know them.

True.

He is Mr. Videogame, after all.

 

[Deleted member]

Y’know, if it wasn’t for Mario, Bubsy and tank controls would probably be leading the 3D platformer market right now.

No it'd be Sonic. Imagine the timeline where Nintendo lost the 90s console wars.

 

[Cosmic77]

I don't know if I agree with this just yet. I kinda wanna hear more specifics

Yoshi isn't a series that's heavily reliant on power-ups as Mario is...

I'm saying that I'd probably buy another 2D Mario game if it had some cool new power-ups. I'd need a little more convincing with Yoshi.

• Give me something almost identical to the orginal or New Island - I'm not interested.
• Give me something similar to DS where different babies/Yoshis have different skills - I might be interested.
• Give me something like Woolly World where the entire game has a themed shtick, like a whole game made out of food and sweets - I'm interested in what the game has to offer.

 

[Tako Tuesday]

Also, I can't help but wonder what exactly Mario did to SnakeFighter64 that's so terrible. I want to know, but at the same time maybe I don't.

 

[Noipoi]

Nope never mind

 

[Wyoming]

I have a gaming confession to make, I apologize for saying what I'm about to say in advance. Ready? Ok.

Mario Odyssey was a bit of a disappointment for me. I know, I know, but hear me out. My issues with the game come from a few things. I feel like aside from standout worlds like Luncheon Kingdom or New Donk City, most of the worlds kinda felt a little standard. Still beautiful stages that were fun to play, but a bit on the standard Mario side. This one doesn't bother me too much, it's more of a nitpick.

Another thing I wasn't too fond of is that Moons just weren't satisfying to get. It's a collectathon, so I was hoping collecting things would feel more impactful, I suppose. But Moons are so common, and you can get them so easily in some cases that they stop feeling like a reward, and more like just things you need to move on to the next world.

My last issue is the soundtrack, which aside from standouts like Jump Up, Superstar!, Brake Free, Wooded Kingdom and New Donk just felt a little forgettable, I feel. Don't get me wrong, they're all good tracks but some just don't stand out to me and kind of blend in a little.

Overall, I still really enjoyed the game (that ending was phenomenal, btw), It just didn't feel as memorable overall as the Galaxy games or 64.

I think you are spot on overall. The collecting isn't as diverse as I would have hoped, but it's a fun game to complete and I love the worlds. Copying abilities was neat, although not an idea that should be revisited. I don't think it can have as much as an impact a second time around.

The final boss/segment is definitely memorable though. It's unique for Mario, and I love the moon setting.

Galaxy remains the best 3D Mario experience in my book.

 

[Noipoi]

I think you are spot on overall. The collecting isn't as diverse as I would have hoped, but it's a fun game to complete and I love the worlds. Copying abilities was neat, although not an idea that should be revisited. I don't think it can have as much as an impact a second time around.

The final boss/segment is definitely memorable though. It's unique for Mario, and I love the moon setting.

Galaxy remains the best 3D Mario experience in my book.

He doesn’t want more captures

But they were soooo coooooool

 

[MSmariosonic]

There's a certain quality in Mario games I admire

Super Mario 64 is one of my favorite games of all time and therefore I also really enjoyed Odyssey. I got goosebumps when I got to the last kingdom of the game...

 

[Zinith]

I'm saying that I'd probably buy another 2D Mario game if it had some cool new power-ups. I'd need a little more convincing with Yoshi.

• Give me something almost identical to the orginal or New Island - I'm not interested.
• Give me something similar to DS where different babies/Yoshis have different skills - I might be interested.
• Give me something like Woolly World where the entire game has a themed shtick, like a whole game made out of food and sweets - I'm interested in what the game has to offer.

If it wasn't for the fact I'm personally obligated to buy every first party Switch title, I would probably pass on getting another "New Super Mario Bros." game. Snakefighter does have some point in that. So are you saying that you hold Yoshi to a higher standard than 2D Mario? Because "cool new power-up" comes off as that...

As for those three points, it's pretty much Good Feel's MO to deal exclusively with that third one, so you shouldn't have an issue if they remain Yoshi's developer

 

[Lamperouge]

Also, I can't help but wonder what exactly Mario did to SnakeFighter64 that's so terrible. I want to know, but at the same time maybe I don't.

Mario wasn't there when she needed him for a leak fix.

 

[Wyoming]

New Super Mario is actually a sham. It's why I never bought any of em.

Besides, Donkey Kong is their best side scrolling platformer.