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BlueMonk

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all the smash community drama from the past three or so months has been from Ally, dude's some sort of bad omen
 

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Matchfixing is dishonest, people try to defend it by saying far sportsmanship when they split the winnings but it gives people the impression that the match was fixed even if it wasn't. It ruins EVOs credibility and makes it harder to get people to come. Smash is now being taken seriously and the people signing up have to act responsible
 

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man, is the competitive Smash community just teeming with awful people or???

Bocchi (the 15 year old who beat Ally and then got bullied) isn't innocent herself, she said the N-word (hard R) REPEATEDLY in a discord server. ugh why
They are gamers. So...yes. The community itself is bad. Most of the competitors are fine from what we know.

My red flag for someone is when they unironically call themselves a gamer as their identity.
 

Hat N' Clogs

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man, is the competitive Smash community just teeming with awful people or???

Bocchi (the 15 year old who beat Ally and then got bullied) isn't innocent herself, she said the N-word (hard R) REPEATEDLY in a discord server. ugh why
Yeah, that's a big yikes for me dawg. Not cool.

She did apologize and owned up to her actions at least, so I can respect that. It was wrong, but she owns it and wants to be better. I hope she does indeed improve.
 
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TheMightyP

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Wait so Captain Zack was underage in the relationship? The whole "Think of what your family might think" threw me off.
Yes, Ally was 30 something, Zack was 16 (which is legal in Canada, but apparently there was more to that, apparently talks of abuse and grooming. Also, he was 16, that's gross.)

Oh and btw, people are defending Ally again
 

Rie Sonomura

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Yes, Ally was 30 something, Zack was 16 (which is legal in Canada, but apparently there was more to that, apparently talks of abuse and grooming. Also, he was 16, that's gross.)

Oh and btw, people are defending Ally again
Ally was 27 actually, but that kind of relationship is against Romeo and Juliet laws, as if you're dating someone under 18, you can be no more than 5 years older than them, regardless of the area's age of consent if it's under 18

and ppl defending Ally... ew. I had to softblock a former mutual on Twitter for saying there was nothing wrong with the relationship. deadass they said that

She did what?
even saying something about lynching (hard R N word's). like Hat n Clogs said, I hope she learns from her mistakes, especially since she's young, but that's still a pretty yikes thing to say
 

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you cant be a smash bros player without heavy controversy at one point or another

unless you're based mew2king where you can't hurt a fly
 

Alicorn

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Yes, Ally was 30 something, Zack was 16 (which is legal in Canada, but apparently there was more to that, apparently talks of abuse and grooming. Also, he was 16, that's gross.)

Oh and btw, people are defending Ally again
I am a very forgiving person but Ally just made my skin crawl. That's just creepy
 
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Also, CaptainZack admitted to matchfixing with Ally.

So he might be in some deep trouble, and Ally DEFINITELY isn't coming back anytime soon.
I can't wait to see what direction the Ally cinematic universe will go in next
 
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BlueMonk

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you cant be a smash bros player without heavy controversy at one point or another

unless you're based mew2king where you can't hurt a fly
If we're being honest, most of the pro smash players haven't had any serious drama associated with them
 
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This community LITERALLY cannot go a single day without drama plaguing it.
Flashback to the days when Ultimate's worst drama was Salem being kind of an asshole.
Least the Melee side of things is pretty clean, the worst thing that's happened this year that I can recall was the crab and that's just something we can kinda laugh at over how ridiculous it was.
 
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Ura

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Not really a direct response to your post, but just for fun, here's my tier list of Nintendo's most notable franchises. I tried ordering franchises within tiers.

A: :ultmario::ultpikachu::ultlink:
B::ultvillager::ultinkling::ultkirby::ultmarth:
C::ultyoshi::ultdk::ultwario::ultsamus::ultfox::ultolimar::ultshulk:
D::ultpit::ultness::ultfalcon::ultlittlemac:
?::ultwiifittrainer:
DK should absolutely be higher on that list. It's a bonfide million seller for pretty much all of it's games.

If I were to make a list, it would look kinda similar. Mario & Pokemon belonging to an SS rank, Zelda in the S rank, and then the rest as the same as that list only with DK alongside AC, Splatoon, Kirby, & FE.
 

CosmicQuark

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Dude. You’re just wrong about this. K. Rool, Ridley, Geno, and Banjo have all been the huge requests since the original game. But beyond their popularity within the community, they were all united because their inclusion was thought to be impossible for one reason or another. It shouldn’t really be “the big four”. It should be “the impossible four”.
While I don't think one can really say there's a main four (I recall people claiming it was a trinity), there's no denying that K. Rool, Ridley, Geno, and Banjo & Kazooie have had huge, longterm support. Not necessarily consistent--every character waxes and wanes depending on the perception of their liklihoods--but to deny any of those character's significance is just ignoring the facts.

As for Banjo & Kazooie, they were highly requested since Melee (yes, along with James Bond at the time). Their vocal support died down most likely due to people thinking it was literally impossible--at the time it was as ridiculous as getting a Sony-owned character. That doesn't mean it disappeared. Phil's tweet simply showed it wasn't impossible--it didn't cause a demand that wasn't already there, it allowed people to talk about it without coming across as overly hopeful. B&K's arrival was spoiled by Verge's rumors, along with official confirmation that Nintendo and Microsoft were working together in some capacity, along with a ton of rumors of Xbox supporting the Switch more, including official announcements of previously exclusive games, like Cuphead, coming to Switch. Add on to that the merchandise and Shinobi, it seemed obvious--but that betrays the long history when it was not only not obvious, but constantly objected to as being a pipe dream.

I can't speak about the other characters since, as I was an on-and-off Smash player prior, I hadn't heard of Ridley, K Rool and Geno until I got into Smash discussion. But looking at the history of these characters, you're correct that they were all a) popular b) long-term c) and at some point, thought to be impossible.

I wouldn't go so far as to say there's a definitive set--Isaac and Skull Kid were also huge. But to claim any of those four were not popular, only recently popular, or obvious is just re-writing history.

Go pony with me Zinith
Sorry, this is a Yoshi-centered profile :yoshi:
Shouldn't a ponied Yoshi work? There must be examples of those, and if not, that needs to be rectified. :yoshi:
 
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