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[Knight Dude]

I agree with almost everything TJ-Works said about Black and White, however...
The Gym Leaders are not memorable? What the ****?
Cheren is a ****in' bro.

"Cheren is a ****in' bro."

@ Kenith - 2015

*People talking about the cons of Pokémon gens*

Well, at least the TF2 one is working now.

 

[TJ-Works]

*People talking about the cons of Pokémon gens*

Debates on Pokemon generations are always fun.

 

[Kenith]

The only noteworthy Gym Leader in Gen 6 is Valerie, because she's clearly hiding something. She is not human.
And, she has a cute design.

 

[Opossum]

Honestly, I liked what they tried to do with the Kalos rivals, and I liked all of them as characters...but my God.

I wish they'd done more with them. Especially Tierno and Trevor, who seemed like they were always on the sidelines. Hell, give them a sidequest at least.

 

[Deleted member]

*People talking about the cons of Pokémon gens*

Where's the popcorn on the GIF? I see nothing.
Real talk, good one.

 

[Opossum]

The only noteworthy Gym Leader in Gen 6 is Valerie, because she's clearly hiding something. She is not human.
And, she has a cute design.

I would add Korrina as well.

At least she DID something. And there's the whole part of the Mega Evolution lore surrounding her family.

 

[Kenith]

Honestly, I liked what they tried to do with the Kalos rivals, and I liked all of them as characters...but my God.
I wish they'd done more with them. Especially Tierno and Trevor, who seemed like they were always on the sidelines. Hell, give them a sidequest at least.

What was the name of the main rivals in X/Y?
I felt like they were both really clingy and overbearing.
Had a cool theme song though.

 

[Soul.]

X/Y's rivals are so boring. Serena in particular is the most boring one.
Don't get me started on that jingle music every time she shows up.

 

[Rysir]

If I remember correctly, the Magikarp line is based on a Japanese folktale about a fish dreaming of swimming a waterfall, from bottom to top. Through trial and effort, the fish reaches the top, but emerges as a sea dragon (or something) in triumph of his achievement. So there's basis to Magikarp's drastic evolution.

I don't know if it's the same for the other two lines you mention. Probably have to Google that.



They knew their priorities, that ol' Game Freak. Putting the focus of the story on an evil race of pompous Gaga drag queens incompotent of pulling of plans that support the real goal of Lysandre.

Galactic are no different either, to be honest.

To be fair, Galactic grunts were lied to and were running on false beliefs and on top of that were going to be left to die. Lysander just gone to the richest idiots he could find and drained ungodly amounts of money from them and used that for his plans.

Lysander tho. That dude gets points for being able to actually step it up after literally JUST losing to you. He has like a million revives,full restores, elixers and rare candies in his pockets or something.

 

[Opossum]

What was the name of the main rivals in X/Y?
I felt like they were both really clingy and overbearing.
Had a cool theme song though.

Serena/Calem and Shauna.

I think they'd have seemed less overbearing if they'd have given some of their excess moments to Tierno or Trevor.

 

[Aurane]

EDIT: Stupid Smashboards. Quit sending my unfinished posts. T_T

 

[Knight Dude]

The only noteworthy Gym Leader in Gen 6 is Valerie, because she's clearly hiding something. She is not human.
And, she has a cute design.

I don't know. Wulfric actually showing up outside of the Gym for a scene or two was cool. While Korrina was basically just a Mega Evolution tutorial personified.

Honestly, I liked what they tried to do with the Kalos rivals, and I liked all of them as characters...but my God.

I wish they'd done more with them. Especially Tierno and Trevor, who seemed like they were always on the sidelines. Hell, give them a sidequest at least.

I didn't care for them too much. But that Trevor kid could have gotten some development for sure. You do get to talk to his sister, and it seems like there was some set-up for his backstory, but that was it. Though I'm not even super deep into the plots of Pokemon games, despite them being RPGs.

That said I did like the story in the Orre games. I know that they aren't as official as the others, but I would have liked some references to those games or visit a small area of that place again.

 

[TJ-Works]

The only noteworthy Gym Leader in Gen 6 is Valerie, because she's clearly hiding something. She is not human.
And, she has a cute design.

I don't think she's hiding anything. She's pretty content showing off her extraordinarily dilated pupils.

Honestly, I liked what they tried to do with the Kalos rivals, and I liked all of them as characters...but my God.

I wish they'd done more with them. Especially Tierno and Trevor, who seemed like they were always on the sidelines. Hell, give them a sidequest at least.

Funny, as it reminds me of May after finishing ORAS' story. She goes on about how close we got and how our journey crosses path all the time, and we help each other grow, blah blah blah.

With all that said, SHE keeps bumping into YOU. And you never really traveled together either. She's like that friend who acts likes she's close to you, yet you only hung out a couple of times.

 

[Rebellious Treecko]

The only noteworthy Gym Leader in Gen 6 is Valerie, because she's clearly hiding something. She is not human.

Those eyes, man.

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[Frostwraith]

Overall, the storyline of X/Y wasn't memorable. Except Lysandre, who was a really crazy villain.

Then again, I usually find villains to be the most memorable aspects of any story.

Gen V had best story. X/Y was a step back in that regard.

 

[Opossum]

Honestly, I haven't played ORAS yet (getting it in March when I get my New 3DS, or whenever that comes out), but Brendan/May and Wally are definitely last on my "favorite rivals" list going by RSE.

The fact that their starter never even fully evolved and the fact that Wally just seemed tacked on bugged me.

 

[Kenith]

I don't know. Wulfric actually showing up outside of the Gym for a scene or two was cool. While Korrina was basically just a Mega Evolution tutorial personified.

Don't take what I said seriously. I literally don't remember anything about any of them.

 

[Soul.]

Funny, as it reminds me of May after finishing ORAS' story. She goes on about how close we got and how our journey crosses path all the time, and we help each other grow, blah blah blah.

I thought every Pokémon "friend" was like that.
Gen 5 obviously had the best story, and even though I don't really care about Pokémon stories, they are good if you feel like being immersed in them.

 

[Opossum]

I will say I liked AZ though. He was probably my favorite XY character in the main story (though really, it's only out of him, Lysandre, Sycamore, and kind of the rivals that I even remember ).

First time I legit teared up at a Pokemon game.

 

[TJ-Works]

Overall, the storyline of X/Y wasn't memorable. Except Lysandre, who was a really crazy villain.

Then again, I usually find villains to be the most memorable aspects of any story.

Gen V had best story. X/Y was a step back in that regard.

Tch. What are you doing.

Drop that ridiculous facade. You know villainy flows through your veins, so why the disguise?

We know who you are...

 

[Knight Dude]

Tch. What are you doing.

Drop that ridiculous facade. You know villainy flows through your veins, so why the disguise?

We know who you are...

I would have guess he's Dark Pit but sure let's go with that.

 

[Deleted member]

I would have guess he's Dark Pit but sure let's go with that.

What about a fusion of both?

 

[Soul.]

Lol people talking about AZ and I'm like:

 

[Frostwraith]

Tch. What are you doing.

Drop that ridiculous facade. You know villainy flows through your veins, so why the disguise?

We know who you are...

I would have guess he's Dark Pit but sure let's go with that.

Do not tempt me, mortals.

 

[Kenith]

I will say I liked AZ though. He was probably my favorite XY character in the main story (though really, it's only out of him, Lysandre, Sycamore, and kind of the rivals that I even remember ).
First time I legit teared up at a Pokemon game.

Me too.
He waited hundreds of years for that little guy and it finally happened.
Also, I love how X/Y opened and closed with a Fletchling flying by the camera.

 

[TJ-Works]

I will say I liked AZ though. He was probably my favorite XY character in the main story (though really, it's only out of him, Lysandre, Sycamore, and kind of the rivals that I even remember ).

First time I legit teared up at a Pokemon game.

My favorite characters would have to be from R/S/E. Or more appropriately, ORAS.

Steven, Maxie/Archie, the Admins, Zinnia and (I guess) May are enjoyable to watch and listen to. Flannery is the best Gym Leader, even if she gets little screen time. I think Game Freak has finally started to give more depth and character to their, well, characters, and it shows alot in ORAS.

 

[Arcanir]

If I remember correctly, the Magikarp line is based on a Japanese folktale about a fish dreaming of swimming a waterfall, from bottom to top. Through trial and effort, the fish reaches the top, but emerges as a sea dragon (or something) in triumph of his achievement. So there's basis to Magikarp's drastic evolution.

I don't know if it's the same for the other two lines you mention. Probably have to Google that.

They knew their priorities, that ol' Game Freak. Putting the focus of the story on an evil race of pompous Gaga drag queens incompotent of pulling of plans that support the real goal of Lysandre.

Galactic are no different either, to be honest.

Yeah, there is a thematic there for Magikarp (and Remoraid, though many tend to forget it), it's more that I was trying to point out that it's not the first time a Pokémon has jumped in design to fit a thematic. Magikarp jumped because of that folklore, Remoraid jumped because they were trying to go for a revolver to cannon theme, and there are a good number of other examples like that as well. Samurott, while maybe flawed in that execution depending on your viewpoint, isn't the first to jump using a thematic like that, the designer probably wanted a bulky shogun and felt that changing animals was a good idea for that motif over sticking with otters. I can see why it may've not been appealing to do that, but I don't think it was lack of creativity that it happened.

As for Dragonair to Dragonite, they don't really have an excuse unless you count sea serpents as dragons. Personally, it always surprised me that Dragonair jumped from a sea serpent motif that it and Dratini had to traditional anthropomorphic dragon like Dragonite.

As for Team Flare, yeah they were pretty lackluster. Galactic was a bit better IMO though, mostly because as @ Rysir said, Cyrus was trying to manipulate them in the first place, which would explain that disconnect. Lysandre was intending to repopulate the world with his team and they were fully in on it, which doesn't really make sense considering how much more self-absorbed they are then him and don't really go along with trying to make the world a better place.

 

[Opossum]

Me too.
He waited hundreds of years for that little guy and it finally happened.
Also, I love how X/Y opened and closed with a Fletchling flying by the camera.

The musical build up, man.

The fact that his roster consists of Golurk, Sigilyph, (two Pokemon from ancient times) and Torkoal (one that lives a ridiculously long time) kinda gets me. Like, these were his only friends that survived. And then he truly feels happy for once in his life post-War. Finally human, finally like a trainer. And then she comes back, and it was enough to make a nine foot tall behemoth of a man fall to his knees in tears. I broke, man.

 

[Deleted member]

Lol people talking about AZ and I'm like:

And it's been 3,000 years.

 

[Soul.]

lol I'm never going to get this Eevee.
RNG why are you doing this to me....

 

[Opossum]

But you know my favorite part of XY's story?

The Looker post-game portion. Man, that was moving...it helps that Looker's my favorite Pokemon character in general.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Overall, the storyline of X/Y wasn't memorable. Except Lysandre, who was a really crazy villain.

Then again, I usually find villains to be the most memorable aspects of any story.

Gen V had best story. X/Y was a step back in that regard.

and the ORAS took away the stuff that made X and Y great and left it with boring vanilla hoenn

 

[Strofirko]

Best change in MM 3D:

Spoiler

A cutscene that skips itself

 

[Soul.]

Whenever I play a Pokémon game I try to complete it as soon as possible so that I can treat it as a competitive game.
The story does not matter for me at all; if you're interested in it that's fine. We're still cool.

Best change in MM 3D:

Spoiler

A cutscene that skips itself

gr8 moar speedrunz

 

[---]

The Looker post-game portion. Man, that was moving...it helps that Looker's my favorite Pokemon character in general.

Can't wait for the release of the Black/White 2 manga when he learns that Lacktwo outranks him. lol

Am interested to learn how he lost his memory in ORAS though.

and the ORAS took away the stuff that made X and Y great and left it with boring vanilla hoenn

Really? Personally I thought ORAS was equal to BW's plot.

 

[Rysir]

I want steel types to have the dark and ghost resistance back. That would be very nice.

 

[Deleted member]

Best change in MM 3D:

Spoiler

A cutscene that skips itself

Let's wait for the first ever TAS speedrun of this anticipated remake. Oh wait, that'd take years to do.

 

[Rocket Raccoon]

Where's @ Opossum 's story?

 

[Kenith]

Best change in MM 3D:

Spoiler

A cutscene that skips itself

Why does everyone hate cutscenes so much?

 

[TJ-Works]

and the ORAS took away the stuff that made X and Y great and left it with boring vanilla hoenn

ORAS is miles better than X/Y.


...


oh sorry.

IN MY OPINION.

But seriously, I enjoy Hoenn a lot more than Kalos. I think Hoenn has a better structure, flow, and non-linearity in its design.

Also, Hoenn doesn't have a random snowy region that's disconnected from every other town and route around it.

EDIT: After typing this, I just remembered the random desert route disconnected from the routes around it. Although it's less bizarre, as it sits around volcanic/dry terrain within Hoenn's area.

Also, Sootland.