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SoCal Melee PR 12/29/2013 Update

Celph

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who lost to pat

oh, since i actually made a topical post, i'll edit it to add this:

mango should make the whole rankings, atlus and lovage aren't needed and only drag down da accuracy
 

nublet06

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yeah i played a bunch of friendlies with pat and embrace and they are both good enough to beat some people on this list imo.

if the list was a little longer those 2 alogn with koryuu would probly make it. thats not saying too much, but to make a joke about losing to them isnt fair either.

everybody starts off a noob.
 

Celph

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hahahaha

the only person on this list steven could beat is psychomidget
 

nublet06

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im pretty sure with a little practice embrace would have no problem beating some of the fox's on the list with his ice climbers.

such as connor or lovage.

but whatever thats your opinion. you obviously have a much better eye for gauging skill. which is why you money match people for 50+ dollars because you know if you can beat them or not.
 

Celph

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if he's losing to my fox...

i doubt it

lovage destroys ICs and steven would never beat him LMAO

connor lost to his ICs once but i doubt that will happen again; the 14-year-old just didn't know the matchup, but he learns quickly

maybe that's why you shouldn't judge just on how well people do against a rusty ROFL; remember when you thought your fox was good against marth?
 

nublet06

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if he's losing to my fox...

i doubt it

lovage destroys ICs and steven would never beat him LMAO

connor lost to his ICs once but i doubt that will happen again; the 14-year-old just didn't know the matchup, but he learns quickly

maybe that's why you shouldn't judge just on how well people do against a rusty ROFL; remember when you thought your fox was good against marth?
ok lets review some evidence. i said they are good enough to beat some people on the list. you already provided me with the fact that embrace has beaten connor, and that he can beat psychomidget. ok so we both agree on that. embrace can beat some people on the list. thank you for agreeing with me and giving evidence to show i am correct.

2nd of all, yes i think my fox is good against marth. your marth is obviously just better against fox. congrats. i still 4 stocked it one match and im sure i could still take some games off in a set. what is your point? but i do plenty fine against lucky's marth, and every other marth i play. not to mention i mainly play fox in doubles where its a completely different matchup, and yes i think **** marth in doubles with fox. my fox is just as good as lovage's in my opinion. and all you ever do is talk about how great he is.

maybe you should learn how to argue with someone and not provide evideoce to prove they are correct.

and as far as him losing to your fox, i think you are a clear cut better than most of the list. only people that would give you trouble besides the obvious is fly imo.
 

Celph

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ok lets review some evidence. i said they are good enough to beat some people on the list.
are - present tense

you already provided me with the fact that embrace has beaten connor
has - past tense

embrace can beat some people on the list.
he can beat one person on the list -- one person most people agree probably shouldn't of been on it (and at the least has the most precarious position on the list). and if you ask steven his sheik is good enough to beat mango's puff, that's how much he loves the matchup, so he doesn't really get any credit for doing that.

he has beat connor in the past. he will not beat connor again. connor gets better faster than steven does... which you'd probably know if you'd played with connor recently

what is your point?
yeah i played a bunch of friendlies with pat and embrace and they are both good enough to beat some people on this list imo.
maybe that's why you shouldn't judge just on how well people do against a rusty ROFL
but i do plenty fine against lucky's marth, and every other marth i play.
yeah that's my point

my fox is just as good as lovage's in my opinion.
lol

and all you ever do is talk about how great he is.
and usually all you do is claim i belittle everyone :laugh:

and as far as him losing to your fox, i think you are a clear cut better than most of the list. only people that would give you trouble besides the obvious is fly imo.
i'd much rather play fly in tourny than tofu
 

nublet06

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so connor gets better but embrace doesnt....

very interesting.

im not sure if you understand how smash works. outside of mango, zhu, and lucky when he is playing well. everybody else in socal could easily beat anyone else give or take a few weeks. and connor apparently sees this better than you. its not so black and white. i think my final record against edrees was something like 3 wins and 5 losses. but i dont think either of us would consider one better than the other.

and im sorry but i think lovage is very good at cotrolling his character, but as most people who have played for so little of time he is dumb as a doorknob when it comes to certain things. so yes i think my fox is just as good as his. id like you to mention anyone that he could beat with his fox that i couldnt beat with mine. because i would say our fox's are about dead even.
 

Celph

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dude it's common sense some people get better faster than others

socal isn't as good as you and edrees were. everyone in socal still has a lot more growth to go through and some people are getting better faster than others. connor is one of those who's getting better faster than most people. steven, meanwhile, has stagnated for quite a while. my fox beating his ICs when that's the entire reason he picked up the character (keeping in mind that i don't even have a fox) is proof of that.

i haven't played lovage for a while so i can't answer that question with confidence. but just the general things lovage is really good at (recovery, punishing and tech skill) allow me to make that statement. but there's a huge gap in your luigi and your fox rofl, so i doubt your fox could beat anyone on the PR except midgey and maybe fly
 

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Koryuu is very good i almost had his *** maybe i should have never mind i would love to play him again im shocked he is not on the list but then again i aint play everyone yet. And i hear the rankings are ****ed up anyway.
 

Kouryuu

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Koryuu is very good i almost had his *** maybe i should have never mind i would love to play him again im shocked he is not on the list but then again i aint play everyone yet. And i hear the rankings are ****ed up anyway.
It didn't even go to round 3 and I could have ***** you harder. Relax ;)

LOL jk. I'd like to play you again too.
 

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well yeah, the list isn't as accurate as it could be, but it's all we have right now.
based on the general criteria for an unbias PR, this list is pretty accurate given the time frame.


that said, its whack as hell any everyone knows its not legit but like you said "its all be have right now"
 

Alex19

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u guys got this
i might come to your tournament....i would get here the thursday before the tournament...IF i do go we have to play like allllllllllllllll the time before the tournament lol just thought i'd let YA'LL know Lmao...
 

Alex19

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Hahahahah mango's mean but yea lets play ill show you amazing techskill hahaha jp
 

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so connor gets better but embrace doesnt....

very interesting.

im not sure if you understand how smash works. outside of mango, zhu, and lucky when he is playing well. everybody else in socal could easily beat anyone else give or take a few weeks. and connor apparently sees this better than you. its not so black and white. i think my final record against edrees was something like 3 wins and 5 losses. but i dont think either of us would consider one better than the other.

and im sorry but i think lovage is very good at cotrolling his character, but as most people who have played for so little of time he is dumb as a doorknob when it comes to certain things. so yes i think my fox is just as good as his. id like you to mention anyone that he could beat with his fox that i couldnt beat with mine. because i would say our fox's are about dead even.
Haha man we had some close matches. I still remember that croc. I deserved that for camping and picking that stage LOL. Good times ;D
 

Kouryuu

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LOL Edrees. Always getting ***** by that Croc. That stage sure hates you.
 

nublet06

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Haha man we had some close matches. I still remember that croc. I deserved that for camping and picking that stage LOL. Good times ;D
thats probly one of my most remembered wins and its just because i didnt have to do anything lol. if i remember i did a down throw.....then a down air....and then the level finished everything for me. and you were close to 0% when it happened.
 

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