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LoneKonWolf

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@Angelglory got hit, shame, I wanted him to win
40 slots, must remove 5 veterans, can't add any, infinet cuts allowed, move on
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the break period will end on Monday around 8-10PM, not a guaranteed
 
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kylexv

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Will change this after others post:
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Cuts: Diddy Kong, Olimar, Ice Climbers, Falco, Mewtwo

Added King K. Rool, Skull Kid, Ridley, Alph, Krystal, Dillon, Greninja, Porky, Duck Hunt Dog, and Mii.
 

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Bye bye: Dorfindorf, Gen 4 Mewtwo, Gen 1 Mewtwo, Ash Red Pokeman Trainer, and Virtual Boy ROBot

Joining:
Toad- cuz toad
K Rool- cuz K Rool
Ganon- been the villain in 10/16 games
Skull Kid- popular
Meowth- iconic because of the anime
Charizard- #2 largest Pokemon
Greninja- Gen 6
Takamaru- most popular retro
Lip- I was going to put Anna, and then I was going to put Saki, but I decided Lip
Dillon- eshop

Wow, this is getting tough, I can't believe I just cut Mewtwo. I'll miss you Mewtwo......
 

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Top 5. Wow. Good job everyone!

Hopefully the veteran rule isn't in effect anymore. Otherwise this'll be really difficult.
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Cuts: Ganon, Wolf, Mewtwo, Lucario, Ice Climbers
Really sour about having to cut both Mewtwo and Lucario, but that's just how it went this round.

Additions:
Paper Mario: Good 5th Mario character.
K. Rool: DK is a big series.
Palutena: She coo.
Ganondorf: Good villain.
Toon Link: Good 4th Zelda character.
Falco: Wolf replacement.
Meowth: Consistency with the series.
Greninja: Shiny new 6th gen.
Takamaru: Good retro.
R.O.B: Missed him on the roster.

If the veteran rule is still in play, I will feex.
 

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Cut: G-Dorf, Mewtwo, Metaknight, Wolf, and R.O.B.

Wii Fit Trainer - Wanted more series representation (may end up removing her)
Chibi Robo - Wanted more series representation, and I also wanted a new robot character to replace R.O.B.
Waddle Dee - The next best thing over Metaknight
Falco - The next best thing over Wolf
Dillion - More series rep
Andy- More Series Rep
Donbe and Hikari - Wanted a duo character since I don't have the ICs
Lip - Wanted a likeable retro
Meowth - Popular anime Pokemon and next best thing besides Jiggs and Mewtwo.
Ganon - Same as last time, the best thing w/o Gdorf

Might replace WFT later. Idk who with yet. Maybe DHD?
 
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odd day out so no flavor,
@Angelglory got hit, shame, I wanted him to win
40 slots, must remove 5 veterans, can't add any, infinet cuts allowed, move on
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  • Angelglory 6 (75%)
  • Smasher 101 0 (0%)
  • Andiminda 0 (0%)
  • The Light Music Club 0 (0%)
  • TheZombiePIg 0 (0%)
  • Kylexv 2 (25%)
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the break period will end on Monday around 8-10PM, not a guaranteed
LISTEN TO THE RULES!
 
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Sorry. Double Post, but edited my roster

Cuts: Meta Knight, Falco, Olimar, Ice Climbers, Mewtwo, Anna

Additions:
King K. Rool: Feel DK needs three now
Skull Kid: Best 4th Zelda rep that is a newcomer that I could find
Robin: Felt would be better than Anna
Waddle Dee: Next best Kirby rep
Alph: Cuz everyone did it last time we had this type of round
Greninja: Wanted non Gen 1 representation
Ridley: Because people will vote me if I don't
Krystal: Best Star Fox newcomer
Porky: Wanted more Earthbound representation
Duck Hunt Dog: Best newcomer retro
Mii: Just because
 

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Edit of roster:


Duck Hunt Dog gets in over Wii Fit Trainer for more retro representation.
I thought you were going to fix Falco when I saw the edit :p

@ LoneKonWolf LoneKonWolf a few rounds ago, didn't you say having solo Charizard instead of Red/Pokemon Trainer wasn't against the veteran rule? Just wanted to make sure I didn't have any problems with my roster.
 
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Cut: G-Dorf, Mewtwo, Metaknight, Wolf, and R.O.B.

Wii Fit Trainer - Wanted more series representation (may end up removing her)
Chibi Robo - Wanted more series representation, and I also wanted a new robot character to replace R.O.B.
Waddle Dee - The next best thing over Metaknight
Falco - The next best thing over Wolf
Dillion - More series rep
Andy- More Series Rep
Donbe and Hikari - Wanted a duo character since I don't have the ICs
Lip - Wanted a likeable retro
Meowth - Popular anime Pokemon and next best thing besides Jiggs and Mewtwo.
Ganon - Same as last time, the best thing w/o Gdorf

Might replace WFT later. Idk who with yet. Maybe DHD?
you . . .
LISTEN TO THE RULES!
no vets added, means no vets, revise
I thought you were going to fix Falco when I saw the edit :p

@ LoneKonWolf LoneKonWolf a few rounds ago, didn't you say having solo Charizard instead of Red/Pokemon Trainer wasn't against the veteran rule? Just wanted to make sure I didn't have any problems with my roster.
its fine, only as long as Charizard was already part of pokemon trainer, it counts, but not as a veteran cut
 

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Fixed. I think.
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Cuts were Ganon, Wolf, Mewtwo, Lucario and Ice Climbers.
Ganon is staying now, Olimar cut :(

Changes from previous post:
Ganon stays.
Toon Link out, Impa in. Impa has been rising in popularity and importance within the Zelda series, especially with a major playable role in Hyrule Warriors on the horizon.
Krystal in place of Wolf. Star Fox should have two at this point, and she was the next best option after veterans.
Alph in for Olimar. Need a Pikmin rep, he's the only good alternative.
Lip in place of Ice Climbers. Wanted a unique retro.
Paper Mario out, Dillon in. Wanted a new franchise, rather than having Mario at 5. Dillon represents a new and fresh IP.
 

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Cut Dorf, Falco, Mewtwo, Lucario, Ice Climbers
Brought back Ganon, Krystal, Meowth, Zoroark, Mach Rider, King K. Rool, Skull Kid, Starfy, Saki, Lip
 

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I thought that it was roster evolution, not roster de-evolution. Some of the challenges seems like to make it really hard.

I have a suggestion for a challenge for the next game. The roster has to have an even amount of characters by each Smash installment, so the amount of characters who debuted in the original, the newcomers of Melee, the newcomers of Brawl, the newcomers of Wii U/3ds and maybe characters never in Smash would be equal.
 

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I'm actually going to make a few changes to my roster:

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I forgot Wii Fit Trainer and Greninja didn't count as veterans, and also forgot that Shulk existed, so I decided to drop Zoroark, Saki, and Starfy for those three.
 

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and now were moving on,
vote for who you want to eliminate, make sure to explain why, that's it
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Hello? Is this thread alive? I think that everybody sent in a roster.

heh. . heh, that's kind of my fault actually,
about an week an a half ago my shifted again, now where on Mondays/Tuesdays and Thursdays/Fridays I have to get up at 4 am and my free time varies, add that to my horrible schedule making and sleep problems and you got another recipe for disaster.
heck I just woke up an half an hour ago at least i'm not too late to update this thing. just late to the time periods I set
(on the rule page the break periods actually last three days, two for start up and to move the game along, while the third is to give an last minuet chance to someone who's late or need to revise)

Click here to vote
the elimination period will end on Wednesday around 8-10PM eastern
this time I won't be asleep

 
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Despite it being an unpopular opinion, I think Krystal could have gotten in before Falco and Wolf and it wouldn't have seemed out of place. I think all 3 are deserving, but I rarely see people think this way, so I'm shocked that I'm the only one who didn't take the Fox+Krystal route.
Now, I guess I'll look at each one.

Smasher 101: no complaints
If you swapped Andy, WFT, and Krystal for Dillon, Toad, and Wolf and then we'd have the same roster. Looks good.

ZombiePig: Alph
Anna was a good risk. I think it's a positive addition, as everybody else picked Robin, who also makes good sense.
Impa was a good risk too, another recurring character with recent popularity that could make for an interesting character representation-wise and possibly with a good moveset too.
The retros aren't my favorite, but they fit well.
Alph over Olimar is the only thing I don't agree with. I know you had to do it, but that doesn't keep it from hurting your roster a bit. It would hurt it more if there was an obvious, better cut, but I don't have any suggestions.

The Light Music Club: no Meta Knight, no K Rool (or 3rd DK in general), and 3 Zelda characters
Bandana Dee was only really recognizable once he got cast as the 4th Kirby character. So to have him over the 3rd most iconic one isn't the best choice IMO.
I think DK deserves 3 and Zelda deserves 4, but there were no characters I'd actually want taken off the roster for them. You could have traded a retro and a unrepresented series character for maybe.... K Rool and Skull Kid. And I think that might have been better, but overall, I like your retro picks and your new series picks.

Kylexv: Bandana Dee but no Meta Knight, Alph, 2 Mother characters, Miis
Check The Light Music Club's.
Check ZombiePig's.
Mother is pretty small niche franchise, that's old... with no sign of a new game. There should be higher priorities for such a small roster IMO.
I have a personal bias against Miis- hate everything about the idea of them ad their own character in Smash.

So I decided to compare TLMC's and Kyle's representation of each series-
Mario: Same
Yoshi and Wario: Same
DK: Kyle wins
Zelda: Kyle wins
Kirby: Same
Kid Icarus: Same
Fire Emblem: Same
Pokemon: Same
Starfox: Same
Metroid: TLMC wins .5 (for Zero Suit)

So it's down to retros and new series-
First retro-
Kyle: Takamaru, Game and Watch, Duck Hunt Dog, Balloon Fighter
TLMC: Lip, Game and Watch, Duck Hunt Dog, Donbe and Hikari

Takamaru and Lip are equal, but Donbe and Hikari are superior to Balloon Fighter IMO- TLMC wins

New series-
Kyle: Isaac
TLMC: Isaac, Shulk, Chibi Robo, Dillon, Andy

TLMC wins by a significant amount here. Shulk, Chibi Robo, Dillon, and Andy are all positive additions. TLMC wins x2

Kyle: 2, TLMC: 3.5

I voted Kylexv.
 

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Voted kyle because his roster didn't sit very well with me despite the circumstances.
 

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Voted for Kylexv for Bandana Dee over Meta Knight, two Earthbound reps at this point, and totally not Alph, cuz I have him too.
 
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I considered voting for Light because I think DK and Zelda should probably have respectively 3 and 4 characters, but I ended up voting for Kyle because I don't think Mother should have two characters with a fairly small amount of slots, plus I like Light's selection of miscellaneous and retro series more than Kyle's.
 

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(a little reference, to those who get it)
(also I think we abuse this song in this game)

the end is near. . .
by almost uniamous vote, @ kylexv kylexv was voted,
no point to try to struggle the inevitable, your caught in a snare, and I'm the one to haul you in and out

. . .

when I first took over there was 11 of you,
and now there are only 4 left,
time has wiped those who couldn't change,
the tides have washed those that were weak,
while anger have taken the pathetic,
now only remains those who are prepared. . . .

. . . the times change and the world turns. . .
sometimes we just have to turn with it
. . .

for now its the end of me,
Godot is gone,
I've put my efforts to change the game,
to make decisions more interesting,
but everything has an ending

all my rules are trampled, crushed, and turned into dust
this game will continue on its normal path,
the road with infinite points,
it won't have any more delays,

It is impossible to predict what the future has in store for any of us.
This is precisely why people feel the need to judge of the past.
And we of the court have been charged with the solemn duty of passing such judgment,
and will continue to go on till only one is left

from this point on,
all my previous rules are gone,
this game will be back to normal till it ends
you have 45 slots and five cuts. . .
. . .

. . . for now this is the end of godot. . .​
i'm still running this, just godot is dead for the mean time
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The break period will end on Friday at 8-10 pm eastern . . .
 
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Wow, top 4. I need that top three at least now. But I have to admit, originally I was just trying to make top ten. Glad we have these new rules. I have an idea of what I want to do.



Cut: Krystal, Meowth, Ganon, Duck Hunt Dog, and Bandana Dee
Added: King K Rool, Mewtwo, Ganondorf, Skull Kid, Meta Knight, Falco, Wolf, Ike, Ice Climbers, R.O.B.

May change this. Not sure.
 
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Top 4! Well done everyone!
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Cut: Alph, Meowth, and Krystal

Added:
Zero Suit Samus: Metroid is one of Nintendo's more popular series (#6 in sales) and I thought it deserved a 3rd character, and Zero Suit is a sensible addition.
Wolf: Between Falco and Wolf, I felt Wolf was more important to the series and more unique of a character. And it adds another villainous character.
Olimar: I shouldn't have cut him for Alph in the first place.
Andy: Comes from a long standing, unique series.
Isaac: From a cult classic series.
Lucario: Chose him over Meowth for more generational diversity.
Ice Climbers: A recognizable IP that brings something new to the table.
R.O.B: A funny addition, that holds importance to Nintendo.

I'd have liked to add a third character for both Fire Emblem and Star Fox, and a second for both Earthbound and F-Zero, but I decided it would be better to expand on the number of series in the roster.
 

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Cut: It was a hard decision, but I cut Meowth. I originally wanted Mario, Zelda, and Pokemon to have 5- so I was going to keep him and add Impa, but I decided against it.

Veterans returning! Excited to finally get these guys back!
Falco
ROB
Ice Climbers
Lucario
Mewtwo (technically a veteran)
(Ganondorf was added to Ganon)
(Pokemon Trainer returns, and takes 2 from my previous roster, Charizard and Greninja, but also brings a newcomer)

Newcomers!
Saki- It was inbetween him and Andy, and I saw that nobody else had Saki, but they did have Andy, so I went with Saki to be different :3
Anna- Now I have the face, the main character, and the mascot. Yes! Marth may not be all that unique, but Robin and Anna definitely are! I wish I could put them both on a prediction roster one day and be legitimately confident about it... agh.
(Sceptile was added to Pokemon Trainer)

Well, here's a roster full of some of my favorite characters (Anna, Palutena, Lip, Skull Kid, Mewtwo, Sceptile, Takamaru, Shulk, Isaac, Ridley, Sheik), with a few I like a good amount but mostly added because they're deserving (Dillon, Robin, Saki, K Rool, Ganon, ROB, Ice Climbers, Toad) let's see what happens! :D
 

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Cuts: Ganon, Skull Kid, Meowth, Greninja, Krystal
Returning: Ganondorf, Toon Link, Mewtwo, Lucario, Falco, Wolf, Ike, Ice Climbers, R.O.B., Starfy

Wanted to bring back Saki as well, but I ran out of room.
 
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