Smashboards Creates: SSB If It Was Created During the Switch Era

[Mushroomguy12]

Job 82

Arena Ferox (Fire Emblem)

Resubmitting Arena Ferox

Job 84

Ruto (Zelda)

Attacks with water based attacks like in Hyrule Warriors.

 

[Northsouthmap]

Chrom Alts Would Stay the Same as Ultimate.

Tal Tap Heights
The Link's Awakening Remake could use a new stage.

Burt the Bashful
Attacks the same as in Yoshi's Island.

 

[Pupp135]

I wish everyone a happy new year.

We’ll use Northsouthmap’s Chrom and BritishGuy54’s Pneuma recolors.

Here are the nominations

Pupp135 Wuhu Island
BritishGuy54 Indigo Plateau
Mushroomguy12 Arena Ferox
Northsouthmap Tal Tal Heights

Vote for your three most wanted, where yours is not first.

1. Indigo Plateau
2. Wuhu Island
3. Arena Ferox

Pupp135 Wii Fit Trainer
Mushroomguy12 Princess Ruto
Northsouthmap Burt the Bashful

Vote for your two most wanted, where yours is not first.
1. Ruto
2. Wii Fit Trainer

Also, feel free to submit Six History Cards, an item, and one Legendary/Mythic Pokemon

Mew will operate like in Ultimate

I’ll nominate the 1-Up Mushroom Item, which provides an extra point/stock for those who contact it.

 

[Northsouthmap]

I wish everyone a happy new year.

We’ll use Northsouthmap’s Chrom and BritishGuy54’s Pneuma recolors.

Here are the nominations

Pupp135 Wuhu Island
BritishGuy54 Indigo Plateau
Mushroomguy12 Arena Ferox
Northsouthmap Tal Tal Heights

Vote for your three most wanted, where yours is not first.

Pupp135 Wii Fit Trainer
Mushroomguy12 Arena Ferox
Northsouthmap Burt the Bashful

Vote for your two most wanted, where yours is not first.

Also, feel free to submit Six History Cards, an item, and one Legendary/Mythic Pokemon

You put a stage in the list of assists

 

[Louie G.]

1. Wuhu Island
2. Arena Ferox
3. Indigo Plateau

I think Zelda is set on stages, so giving the other three props. Wuhu Island is a great catch-all Nintendo locale, and the other two would do a good deal to supplement their respective series representation.

1. Burt the Bashful
2. Ruto

I do really like the idea of Wii Fit Trainer, but we have a lot of quirky ATs already so I think we could probably stand for a couple more direct ones.

 

[BritishGuy54]

1. Wuhu Island
2. Indigo Plateau
3. Arena Ferox

1. Ruto
2. Burt the Bashful

 

[Northsouthmap]

1. Wuhu Island
2. Arena Ferox
3. Indigo Plateau

1. Ruto
2. Burt the Bashful

Item: Timer

History Cards:
Mr. Sandman
Great Tiger
Piston Hondo
Bear Hugger
Von Kaiser
Super Macho Man

 

[BritishGuy54]

History Cards:

• Vandham (Xenoblade)
• Young Link (Zelda)
• Octobot King (Splatoon)
• Cat Mario (Mario)
• Paper Mario (Mario)
• Rex (Master Driver) (Xenoblade)

 

[Pupp135]

Here are the votes:

Wuhu Island 11
Indigo Plateau 7
Tal Tal Heights
Arena Ferox 6

Wuhu Island is the final stage.

Wii Fit Trainer 1
Princess Ruto 7
Burt the Bashful 4

Princess Ruto is the last assist.

Since we have completed the character and stage roster, I’ll set up a check in.

Check-In: How do you feel about the base game content? What did you like seeing in the final base game content, and what would you have liked to see instead? What do you hope to see added for the DLC portion? What feedback do you have with the formatting of the game?

Spoiler: Opinion

In terms of fighters, I liked the lineup overall. We have most of the major players in addition to some nice curveballs. The only characters that I’d probably change are Sami and Pneuma for maybe Fox/Ness and Toy Link. Pokemon Trainer and Aegis together are a little jarring at forst glance, but they are cool ideas, and Pokemon Trainer and Aegis have been the best implementations of a transforming fighter in the actual series. One other thing that I liked was the gender balance with this roster. In terms of stages, the stage selection was creative overall, and I think that I would have replaced Brinstar with a more original stage. For DLC, I think my biggest want is to have a few curveball picks and not have it just being heavy hitters. Like Melee, there are a few heavy hitters missing, and they’ll probably join the DLC roster (Wario, Diddy Kong, Ganon(dorf), Meta Knight, and Charizard/Mewtwo/Lucario for starters), and I think we strike a balance.

For DLC, I’d like to have feedback on this approach: submit the bonus fighter and later stage, moveset and recolors. For the Fighter Packs, the top two fighters from each pack (four total) get added to each fighter pack. Similarly, the stages, recolors, and movesets are then decided.

 

[Pupp135]

I’ll move onto the DLC now.

DLC Job 1: Submit a bonus fighter.

Also, feel free to submit 6 history cards.

 

[Pupp135]

I’ll leave submissions up until tomorrow.

DLC Job 1: Submit a bonus fighter.

While I previously nominated her for the final assist trophy job, I think the Wii Fit Trainer would still be an appropriate choice for the bonus fighter. She represents the Wii era, which is a major part of Nintendo’s history, and fills a role of the very unconventional fighter.
Also, feel free to submit 6 history cards.
Bob-Omb King (Paper Mario)
Tiny Kong (Donkey Kong)
Tetra (Legend of Zelda)
Micaiah (Fire Emblem)
Bonkers (Kirby)
Waddle Doo (Kirby)

 

[BritishGuy54]

DLC Job 1: Not Available.

History Cards:

• Whomp (Mario)
• Dry Bowser (Mario)
• N (Pokémon)
• Wally (Pokémon)
• Nia (Blade) (Xenoblade)
• Builder Mario (Mario)

 

[Mushroomguy12]

DLC Job

Rhythm Troupe (Rhythm Heaven)

Rhythm Heaven's most recent entry was in 2015, so it would be relatively reasonable to add it at this time. Based off the Fan Smashified concept, I wanted to do a group character like the Duck Hunt trio, this would consist of the Girl in the red dress, a monkey, and a Chorus Kid, all of which that are considered mascots of the series. They would obviously use a rhythm based moveset. I choose this because I wanted to include more smaller 1st Parties before we got into the full DLC. I was torn between this and adding a missing veteran from Ultimate, but I decided on this since this would be a more wacky concept, and the veteran I was thinking of would be likelier to win in a regular character pack than as a bonus character.

 

[Northsouthmap]

DLC Job 1: R.O.B. (Gyromite)
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Imagine it’s 2021 and Nintendo have just released their cool new crossover fighting game for the very first time.

R.O.B. makes sense here. It doesn’t have a stage in Smash proper anyway. A goofy retro character would be fitting.

History Cards:

• Whomp (Mario)
• Dry Bowser (Mario)
• N (Pokémon)
• Wally (Pokémon)
• Nia (Blade) (Xenoblade)
• Builder Mario (Mario)

Do assist trophies deconfirm fighters in this thread?

 

[Otoad64]

Matt (Wii Sports)

This game doesn’t have the Miis, but I think they should be represented somehow, so why not represent the most popular Mii game, Wii Sports!

 

[Louie G.]

DLC Job 1: Waddle Dee (Kirby)

I attempted to get Waddle Dee in once before, as a late stage derivative a la Jigglypuff. That didn't pan out, but now might be an even better time. Piranha Plant has kind of set the standard for bonus fighters in my eyes, someone a bit less conventional or exciting in and of themselves who still adds something flavorful and surprising to the roster dynamic. Hence, I will continue to follow its example and nominate a generic enemy. If it works it works.

Although the thing about Waddle Dee is this, they are probably the most heavily merchandised element of Kirby outside of the pink blob himself. They have their own portal on the official Kirby site alongside Dedede and Meta Knight - not Bandana Dee, just "Waddle Dee" as a whole. Of course Bandana Dee would be represented here as well, but probably as a costume alongside Sailor Dee and so forth. I also assume we may already have Waddle Dee models in the game, as part of Dedede's entrance and victory animations. So this would be an easy asset flip, represent an important part of a popular series, and frankly I think may just be a fun fighter in their own right whichever direction we want to go with it.

 

[Pupp135]

Do assist trophies deconfirm fighters in this thread?

This is something that we should have addressed in the DLC job. With the bonus DLC job being akin to something like Mewtwo or Piranha Plant, I’ll say assist trophies are not allowed for this round, but I’ll set up a poll to see if we’ll allow assist promotions and third parties for future DLC.

 

[Northsouthmap]

Chibi-Robo
His last game was released in 2015, so he makes sense as a bonus fighter. Smash has always been about toys been brought to life.

 

[Pupp135]

Here are the nominations:

Pupp135 Wii Fit Trainer
Mushroomguy12 Rhythm Troupe
Otoad64 Matt
Louie G. Waddle Dee
Northsouthmap Chibi-Robo

Vote for your three most wanted, where yours is not first.

1. Rhythm Troupe
2. Wii Fit Trainer
3. Waddle Dee

Honestly, I like all five of these nominations. I have the Rhythm Troupe as my lead vote as the concept is a novel idea. Waddle Dee sounds like a fun take on the mook.

Also, here are pulls to determine if assist trophy promotions and third parties be allowed as future DLC.

Would you like assist trophies to be eligible for DLC? - StrawPoll

What is your opinion? Vote now: Yes, No

strawpoll.com

Would you like third parties to be eligible for DLC? - StrawPoll

What is your opinion? Vote now: Yes, No

strawpoll.com

Also, feel free to submit 6 history cards.

 

[Otoad64]

1. Chibi-Robo
2. Rhythm Troupe
3. Matt

 

[Mushroomguy12]

1. Wii Fit Trainer
2. Rhythm Troupe
3. Chibi-Robo

 

[Northsouthmap]

1. Rhythm Troupe
2. Chibi-Robo
3. Wii Fit Trainer

 

[Pupp135]

From the polls, third parties will be eligible for DLC, but assist trophies won’t be.

Here are the votes:
Wii Fit Trainer 6
Rhythm Troupe 10
Matt 1
Waddle Dee 1
Chibi-Robo 6
Rhythm Troupe is our bonus fighter.

DLC Job 2: Submit a Rhythm Heaven Stage

Rhythm Remix
This would be like Wario Ware where there are multiple games that are included in a set, and the game changes over time.

DLC Job 3: Submit a Rhythm Troupe Moveset

Feel free to submit six base game and six Rhythm Heaven history cards.
Saria (Legend of Zelda)
Majora’s Mask (Legend of Zelda)
Matt (Wii Sports)
Wii Balance Board (Wii Fit)
Felix (Golden Sun)
Matthew (Golden Sun)


Tibby
Animal Acrobat
Mandrill
Conductor
Ms. Whiskers
Tram and Poline

 

[Northsouthmap]

Night Walk

Rhythm Heaven Trophies:
Sneaky Spirit
Karate Joe
Reporter and Wrestler
Barista
Wandering Samurai
Sumo Brothers

 

[Pupp135]

I’ll leave submissions up until tomorrow

 

[Pupp135]

Here is a poll to vote between Night Walk (northsouthmap) and Rhythm Remix (mine) as the Rhythm Heaven Stage.

Which stage should be added? - StrawPoll

What is your opinion? Vote now: Night Walk, Rhythm Fever

strawpoll.com

DLC Job 3: Submit a Rhythm Troupe Moveset

DLC Job 4: Submit Rhythm Troupe Recolors and Alts

DLC Job 5: Submit a DLC Fighter for Wave 1 (top two fighters join)

While we’ll probably nominate a few supplemental characters from represented franchises or third parties, I’m nominating Fox McCloud here. From the franchises absent from the roster, Star Fox is one of the more prominent Nintendo ones barring a few exceptions (Ring Fit Adventure, Wii era, Wario), and while this is a hypothetical first entry, I’m sure his moveset would still be well liked in this scenario.

Feel free to submit six base game History Cards.

 

[BritishGuy54]

DLC Job 5: Wario (Wario…? Or Super Mario?)

WAHHHHHHHHH!

The perfect hook to start DLC, with a bang. A fan-favourite, with his own series of games. I think having Wario as a DLC fighter is an immediate hook for a lot of people who want to see what could come down the pipeline.

Base Game History Cards:

• Artifice Siren (Xenoblade)
• Baby Mario (Super Mario)
• Mario & Pipe Frame (Mario Kart)
• Bowser, Bowser Jr, & Koopa King (Mario Kart)
• Mario & B Dasher (Mario Kart)
• Peach & Mach Bike (Mario Kart)

 

[Otoad64]

DLC Job 05: Diddy Kong & Dixie Kong

Diddy Kong & Dixie Kong are iconic and beloved Nintendo characters that could bring in more Donkey Kong representation during a time when the series has been ignored for a while. They could have a unique playstyle as a duo character that can switch between eachother

Base Game History Cards:
-Captain Toad (Super Mario)
-Donkey Kong Jr. (Donkey Kong)
-Ganondorf (The Legend of Zelda)
-Waddle Doo (Kirby)
-Hop & Wooloo (Pokemon)
-Monita (Nintendo Land)

 

[Northsouthmap]

Meta Knight
He's an iconic rival for Kirby and he would play differently than the other Kirby fighters on the roster.

Rhythm Troupe Move Set

 

[Pupp135]

We’ll use Northsouthmap’s Rhtyhm Troupe moveset.

Here are the nominations
Pupp135 Fox McCloud
BritishGuy54 Wario
Otoad64 Diddy and Dixie Kong
Northsouthmap Meta Knight

Vote for your three most wanted, where yours is not first.
1. Wario
2. Fox
3. Diddy & Dixie Kong

I was initially considering to vote for Diddy & Dixie Kong at first, but we do have a different multi-character fighter in the form of the Rhythm Troupe, so I’ll go with the popular Wario as my lead here. I still have Diddy & Dixie Kong here as they are a cool idea.

DLC Job 4: Submit Rhythm Troupe Recolors and Alts

Feel free to submit six base game History Cards.

 

[Otoad64]

1. Wario
2. Diddy/Dixie
3. Fox

 

[Mushroomguy12]

Votes

1. Fox
2. Diddy/Dixie
3. Wario

 

[BritishGuy54]

1. Fox
2. Wario
3. Meta Knight

It feels a bit redundant having two Mario-adjacent characters in one wave.

Base Game History Cards:

• Yoshi & Mach 8 (Mario Kart)

 

[Mamboo07]

1. Wario
2. Meta Knight
3. Fox

 

[Northsouthmap]

1. Wario
2. Fox
3. Meta Knight

 

[Otoad64]

Base Game History Cards:
1. NES
2. Game Boy
3. Virtual Boy
4. Wii Remote
5. Wii U Gamepad
6. Nintendo Switch

 

[darkvortex]

1. Wario
2. Fox
3. Meta Knight

History Cards

1. Hammer Bro.
2. Triforce
3. Dunban
4. Ankha
5. Officer Howard

 

[Pupp135]

Here are the votes:

Fox 14
Wario 18
Diddy & Dixie Kong 5
Meta Knight 5

Wario and Fox McCloud are our Wave One fighters.

Rhthym Fever is the Rhythm Heaven map

DLC Job 6: Submit Wario and Fox McCloud Movesets

DLC Job 7: Submit a Wario and Star Fox Stage

I’ll nominate Diamond City, which would operate as a moving stage.


I’ll nominate Area 6, which would operate how it does in the Melee 64 mod.

Feel free to submit six base game History Cards and Six History cards each for Wario and Star Fox
Wario
A Hidden Figure
Golden Diva
Shake King
Kat & Ana
9-Volt
Penny

Star Fox
Andross
General Pepper
Leon Powalski
Pigma Dengar
James McCloud
Kat Monroe

 

[Northsouthmap]

Fox and Wario move sets: same as Ultimate

WarioWare Inc.
Acts the same in the real games.

CornerIa
Acts the same in the real games.

 

[Otoad64]

Wario History Cards:

1. Ashley
2. Mona
3. Jimmy T.
4. Dribble & Spitz
5. Captain Syrup
6. Rudy the Clown

Wario stage: Rice Beach

Star Fox stage: Lylat Cruise