Smashboards Creates: An Alternate SSB Universe, part 3: Brawl

[Deleted member]

For Wario I'll submit Diamond City. Would be a sort of touring stage through various locations. Was thinking you would ride on Spitz and Dribble's Taxi. Various characters would cameo.

 

[Pupp135]

Here are the nominations
Pupp135 Flower Fields (Renamed Yoshi’s Island Brawl) and Wario Ware
Butters Stotch Baby Bowser’s Castle and Arrow Zone
@Darkonedagger Diamond City

For the Yoshi map, there is a poll between the two stages.

Which stage should be added? | StrawPoll

What is your opinion? Vote now: Flower Fields (Renamed Yoshi’s Island Brawl), Baby Bowsers Castle

strawpoll.com

For the Wario stage, vote for your two most wanted, where your submission is not first.

1. Diamond City
2. Wario Ware

Trophy Submissions
1. Metal Sonic
2. Agahnim
3. Marin
4. Eliwood
5. Boo

 

[Deleted member]

1. Wario Ware
2. Diamond City

 

[Butters Stotch]

1. WarioWare Inc.
2. Diamond City

Trophy submissions:
1. Charizard
2. Gengar
3. Tornado Kirby
4. King Boo
5. Blathers & Celeste

 

[Tankman from Newgrounds]

Sorry for missing out for submissions:

But anyway:
1. Wario Ware
2. Diamond City

Trophy submissions:
1. Octorok (Zelda)
2. Giratina (Pokemon)
3. Death Egg (Sonic)
4. NES Zapper
5. Super Scope

 

[BowserKing]

1.Warioware
2.Arrow Zone

Trophies
1.Glaceon
2.Skuntank
3.Crackaletta
4.Petey Piranha
5.Bio-Rex

 

[Pupp135]

Here are the votes
Wario Ware Inc 9
Arrow Zone 1
Diamond City 5

Wario Ware Inc is our new Wario stage.

Additionally, our Yoshi stage is Baby Bowser’s Castle.

I’ll have us do 2 jobs next.

Job 34: Submit Final Smashes for Kirby, Dedede, Fox, Falco, Pikachu, and Mewtwo
In terms of these characters, I’d keep Dedede, Fox, and Pikachu as is, Falco gets his from Ultimate. Kirby‘s will be Mega Warp Star where he rides on Warp Star, and the player is able to choose where he lands, causing a ton of damage and knockback to enemies in contact. Mewtwos will be Psycho Cut, which will be a like a combination of Meta Knights where Mewtwo doesn’t move, but enemies in contact immediately experience knockback.

Job 35: Submit an Adventure Mode format.
For my Adventure Mode format, I’ll have protagonist characters grouped into 3 subsections that are based on different Nintendo worlds (e.g. Mario and Pokemon, Metroid and Star Fox, and LoZ and Kirby). It would be like the original Subspace where there are smaller subgroups that converge. After clearing these subworlds, there is a final world against a final boss (I like the idea of Tankman’s Nintendo Man from the earlier threads). Unlike Subspace, there is only a Great Maze in the final world and no previous levels where everyone is “killed off” and needs to be rescued. Villains serving Nintendo Man be Bowser, Ganon, Ridley (even if he’s not playable, he’d still be a boss), K. Rool.

I’ll submit a couple more trophies (Only two more are allowed after this)
1. Rouge the Bat
2. Meowth

 

[Butters Stotch]

Single Trophy submission (in case another user wants to submit one):
1. Pikmin

Job 34:

Paint Kirby, one of his rarest Copy Abilities and probably one of the more underrated ones, is my submission for Kirby's Final Smash. It functions just as it does in Super Star (Ultra), where jumps into the air and holds up the paintbrush, releasing an onslaught of explosive paint blobs.

(2:50 to 2:54 in this video, I can't get timestamps to work properly)
Dedede's Final Smash is called Super Inhale and is based on a scene in Kirby's Adventure, one where he inhales Kirby and spits him into space. He pretty much does the same thing here, except the opponents are sent flying off the stage.

Pikachu's Final Smash is its evolution into Raichu. This would be be another transformation Final Smash. In addition a large boost in stats, Raichu would have better range with its tail. It eventually devolves back into Pikachu.

Mewtwo reuses Psystrike from Sm4sh and Ultimate, but, contrary to those games and the image above, doesn't Mega Evolve.

Fox and Falco both keep the Landmaster. I think it's a better fit for a Final Smash than the Arwing and you can't go wrong with "Personally, I prefer the air."

Job 35:

My proposal for Adventure Mode would simply be to a better version of Subspace. Don't get me wrong, it's probably my favorite Smash mode ever, but there are some changes I want to make to it, like:

• Replacing most of the levels with Nintendo locations. Some areas like Midair Stadium, Subspace Bomb Factory, and Subspace are kept for plot relevance.
• Having most of the enemies be Nintendo ones. Of course, some like the Primids will stay for originality.
• Condensing The Great Maze so that it isn't as long.
• Having a fill-in for R.O.B., but only in the scenario that he doesn't make it onto the roster. Not sure who it'd be, though.
• Having Mewtwo take G&W's role if he doesn't get in.

That's pretty much it, barring minor details like the possible replacement of Tabuu, Wario working with the heroes, or K. Rool, Kamek (who would assist Bowser), and Zero Nightmare (from Mega Man X6) as extra members of the Subspace Army (as well as any extra villain that gets submitted and isn't a late pick like Wolf). There's not much else I would change.

The reason I mentioned Zero Nightmare in particular because, since Bowser originally would've been a boss, the number of bosses would go down to nine, so to save time, the Assist Trophy of Zero would be recolored and given some new moves and a health bar. This would be an efficient way to save time and resources without having to make sacrifices. And it'd be a good excuse to have this awesome theme play during his battle.

Edit: Subspace groups would be the same for the most part, but there would be a few role changes, mainly for characters not originally in Brawl or transformations.

 

[Pupp135]

Single Trophy submission (in case another user wants to submit one):
1. Pikmin

Since Pikmin is already a trophy, feel free to add a different one if you would like.

 

[Butters Stotch]

Since Pikmin is already a trophy, feel free to add a different one if you would like.

Shoot, I didn't notice. In that case, I'll go with Leif as a nod to the rumors of him being planned for Melee. I prefer Roy, but that would've been an interesting scenario for sure.

By the way, the Mega Man image on the first page isn't working, so here's another one.

 

[Tankman from Newgrounds]

Job 34:
Kirby Final Smash: Dragoon (Acts like an Item, but it's stronger and it's mixed with ZZS's Final Smash)
Fox: Stays
Falco: Ultimate's Final Smash
Pikachu: Keeping it.
Mewtwo: I'm keeping it.

Job 35:
Subspace Emmisary: the adventure mode!
World 1: Mushroom Plains
First Level: Mushroom Kingdom
Second Level: Mushroom Underground
Third Level: Hyrule Overworld
Forth Level: Bowser's Kingdom/Mid-Air stadium Boss Battle

World 2: Wild jungle
Fifth Level: DK Jungle
Sixth Level: Yoshi's Island
Seventh Level: Balloon Fight islands
Eight Level: Boss Battle

World 3: Nintendo City
Ninth Level: Onett
Tenth level: Diamond City
11th: Saffron City
12th: Ruined Zoo Boss Battle

World 4: The Old Kingdom
13th: Castle Siege
14th: Venus Lighthouse
15th: Ganon's Castle
16th: Boss Battle

World 5: Military Outpost
17th: Warzone (Advance Wars)
18th: Gyromite/Subspace Bomb Factory
19th: Shadow Moses Island
20th: Boss Battle

World 6: Freezy Mountain
21st: Ice World (Mario)
22nd: Slippery Mountain (Mario)
23rd: Ice Climber Mountain
24th: Boss Battle

World 7: The Skyworld
25th: Battleship Halberd Exterior
26th: Battelship Halberd Interior
27th: Skyworld (Kid Icarus)
28th: Sky Pillar/Boss Battle.

World 8: The Outer Space
29th: Dream Land
30th: Mute City
31st: Brinstar
32nd: Venom/Boss Battle

World 9: The Subspace dimension
33rd: Subspace Gate
34th: Subspace Tunnel
35th: The Great Subspace
36th: The Great Maze (Nintendo Man Boss fight)

Bosses: Giga Bowser (W1), Naval Piranha & Kamek (W2), Dr. Wily (W3), Ganondorf (W4), Metal Gear Ray (W5), Ridley(W6), Rayquaza (W7), Andross (N64) (W8) and Nintendo Man (W9).

(I did Worlds and Levels based on Represented and Unrepresented series)
(Don't judge me, because this is my alternate Take on SSB)

Trophy submission:
1. Gameboy Color console (Has similar model to GB, but it's GBC)
(I originally planned to put Prof. Vector and Hector, but I Scrapped them due to Hardware Limitations)

 

[Butters Stotch]

Job 34:
Kirby Final Smash: Dragoon (Acts like an Item, but it's stronger and it's mixed with ZZS's Final Smash)
Fox: Stays
Falco: Ultimate's Final Smash
Pikachu: Keeping it.
Mewtwo: I'm keeping it.

Job 35:
Subspace Emmisary: the adventure mode!
World 1: Mushroom Plains
First Level: Mushroom Kingdom
Second Level: Mushroom Underground
Third Level: Hyrule Overworld
Forth Level: Bowser's Kingdom/Boss Battle

World 2: Wild jungle
Fifth Level: DK Jungle
Sixth Level: Yoshi's Island
Seventh Level: Balloon Fight islands
Eight Level: Boss Battle

World 3: Nintendo City
Ninth Level: Onety
Tenth level: Diamond City
11th: Saffron City
12th: Ruined Zoo Boss Battle

World 4: The Old Kingdom
13th: Castle Siege
14th: Venus Lighthouse
15th: Ganon's Castle
16th: Boss Battle

World 5: Military Outpost
17th: Warzone (Advance Wars)
18th: Gyromite Factory
19th: Shadow Moses Island
20th: Boss Battle

World 6: Freezy Mountain
21st: Ice World (Mario)
22nd: Slippery Mountain (Mario)
23rd: Ice Climber Mountain
24th: Boss Battle

World 7: The Skyworld
25th: Battleship Halberd Exterior
26th: Battelship Halberd Interior
27th: Skyworld (Kid Icarus)
28th: Sky Pillar/Boss Battle.

World 8: The Outer Space
29th: Dream Land
30th: Mute City
31st: Brinstar
32nd: Venom/Boss Battle

World 9: The Subspace dimension
33rd: Subspace Gate
34th: Subspace Tunnel
35th: The Great Subspace
36th: The Great Maze (Nintendo Man Boss fight)

Bosses: Giga Bowser (W1), Naval Piranha & Kamek (W2), Dr. Wily (W3), Ganondorf (W4), Metal Gear Ray (W5), Ridley(W6), Rayquaza (W7), Andross (N64) (W8) and Nintendo Man (W9).

(I did Worlds and Levels based on Represented and Unrepresented series)
(Don't judge me, because this is my alternate Take on SSB)

Trophy submissions:
1. Professor Hector and Vector (Gyromite)
2. Gameboy Color console (Has similar model to GB, but it's GBC)

Don't worry, I won't judge you, as I really like your take on the mode, as well as representing smaller series like Advance Wars, but I think we'll be covering enemies and level choices for a later job (unless the OP says otherwise).

 

[Tankman from Newgrounds]

I won't judge you, as I really like your take on the mode, as well as representing smaller series like Advance Wars, but I think we'll be covering enemies and level choices for a later job (unless the OP says otherwise).

Yeah, I understand.
Also, thanks.

 

[Butters Stotch]

You're welcome! :D

But I recommend keeping everything up just in case.

 

[Deleted member]

Feel like bosses should be left open. It's not really fair on everyone else if someone gets to decide all the bosses and such imo. I like the idea though

 

[Butters Stotch]

Feel like bosses should be left open. It's not really fair on everyone else if someone gets to decide all the bosses and such imo. I like the idea though

About Zero Nightmare, I mostly put him there as a placeholder, as I explained why the boss count would be lower unless an Assist Trophy (or character even) got repurposed as one.

Just remembered that Crazy Hand exists, so he could fall under this category if he gets in (since you only need to flip the Master Hand model and add a few moves).

 

[Pupp135]

Here are the nominations

Final Smashes:
Pupp135 Mega Warp Star, Waddle Dee Army, Landmaster, Team Star Fox, Volt Tackle, Psycho Cut
Butters Stotch Paint Kirby, Super Inhale, Landmaster, Landmaster, Raichu, Psystrike
Tankman from Newgrounds Dragoon, Landmaster, Team Star Fox, Volt Tackle, Psystrike

Fox’s final smash is Lamdmaster by default. For Kirby’s final smash, vote for your two most wanted, where yours is not first. For the others, there are polls.

Kirby’s

1. Butters Stotch
2. Tankman from Newgrounds

Dedede’s

Which Dedede final smash should be added? | StrawPoll

What is your opinion? Vote now: Waddle Dee Army, Super Inhale

strawpoll.com

Falco’s

Which Falco final smash should be used? | StrawPoll

What is your opinion? Vote now: Landmaster, Star Fox Army

strawpoll.com

Pikachu’s

Which Pikachu final smash should be used? | StrawPoll

What is your opinion? Vote now: Volt Tackle, Raichu

strawpoll.com

Mewtwo’s

Which Mewtwo final smash should be added? - StrawPoll

What is your opinion? Vote now: Psycho Cut, Psystrike

strawpoll.com

For adventure mode formats, choose your two most wanted formats where yours is not first.

Mine

For my Adventure Mode format, I’ll have protagonist characters grouped into 3 subsections that are based on different Nintendo worlds (e.g. Mario and Pokemon, Metroid and Star Fox, and LoZ and Kirby). It would be like the original Subspace where there are smaller subgroups that converge. After clearing these subworlds, there is a final world against a final boss (I like the idea of Tankman’s Nintendo Man from the earlier threads). Unlike Subspace, there is only a Great Maze in the final world and no previous levels where everyone is “killed off” and needs to be rescued. Villains serving Nintendo Man be Bowser, Ganon, Ridley (even if he’s not playable, he’d still be a boss), K. Rool.

My proposal for Adventure Mode would simply be to a better version of Subspace. Don't get me wrong, it's probably my favorite Smash mode ever, but there are some changes I want to make to it, like:

• Replacing most of the levels with Nintendo locations. Some areas like Midair Stadium, Subspace Bomb Factory, and Subspace are kept for plot relevance.
• Having most of the enemies be Nintendo ones. Of course, some like the Primids will stay for originality.
• Condensing The Great Maze so that it isn't as long.
• Having a fill-in for R.O.B., but only in the scenario that he doesn't make it onto the roster. Not sure who it'd be, though.
• Having Mewtwo take G&W's role if he doesn't get in.

That's pretty much it, barring minor details like the possible replacement of Tabuu, Wario working with the heroes, or K. Rool, Kamek (who would assist Bowser), and Zero Nightmare (from Mega Man X6) as extra members of the Subspace Army (as well as any extra villain that gets submitted and isn't a late pick like Wolf). There's not much else I would change.

The reason I mentioned Zero Nightmare in particular because, since Bowser originally would've been a boss, the number of bosses would go down to nine, so to save time, the Assist Trophy of Zero would be recolored and given some new moves and a health bar. This would be an efficient way to save time and resources without having to make sacrifices. And it'd be a good excuse to have this awesome theme play during his battle.

Edit: Subspace groups would be the same for the most part, but there would be a few role changes, mainly for characters not originally in Brawl or transformations.

Job 35:
Subspace Emmisary: the adventure mode!
World 1: Mushroom Plains
First Level: Mushroom Kingdom
Second Level: Mushroom Underground
Third Level: Hyrule Overworld
Forth Level: Bowser's Kingdom/Mid-Air stadium Boss Battle

World 2: Wild jungle
Fifth Level: DK Jungle
Sixth Level: Yoshi's Island
Seventh Level: Balloon Fight islands
Eight Level: Boss Battle

World 3: Nintendo City
Ninth Level: Onett
Tenth level: Diamond City
11th: Saffron City
12th: Ruined Zoo Boss Battle

World 4: The Old Kingdom
13th: Castle Siege
14th: Venus Lighthouse
15th: Ganon's Castle
16th: Boss Battle

World 5: Military Outpost
17th: Warzone (Advance Wars)
18th: Gyromite/Subspace Bomb Factory
19th: Shadow Moses Island
20th: Boss Battle

World 6: Freezy Mountain
21st: Ice World (Mario)
22nd: Slippery Mountain (Mario)
23rd: Ice Climber Mountain
24th: Boss Battle

World 7: The Skyworld
25th: Battleship Halberd Exterior
26th: Battelship Halberd Interior
27th: Skyworld (Kid Icarus)
28th: Sky Pillar/Boss Battle.

World 8: The Outer Space
29th: Dream Land
30th: Mute City
31st: Brinstar
32nd: Venom/Boss Battle

World 9: The Subspace dimension
33rd: Subspace Gate
34th: Subspace Tunnel
35th: The Great Subspace
36th: The Great Maze (Nintendo Man Boss fight)

Bosses: Giga Bowser (W1), Naval Piranha & Kamek (W2), Dr. Wily (W3), Ganondorf (W4), Metal Gear Ray (W5), Ridley(W6), Rayquaza (W7), Andross (N64) (W8) and Nintendo Man (W9).

(I did Worlds and Levels based on Represented and Unrepresented series)
(Don't judge me, because this is my alternate Take on SSB)

1. Tankman from Newgrounds
2. Butters Stotch

 

[Tankman from Newgrounds]

My votes for adventure Mode:
1. Butters
2. Mine

Kirby's Final smash:
1. Butters
2. Mine

 

[Butters Stotch]

1. Mega Warp Star
2. Dragoon

1. Pupp135
2. Mine

 

[Deleted member]

1. Mega Warp Star
2. Dragoon

1. Pupp135
2. Butters

 

[BowserKing]

1.Dragoon
2.Paint Kirby

1.Butters
2.Tankman

 

[Pupp135]

Here are the votes for Kirby’s final smash and Adventure Mode formats.

Mega Warp Star 4
Paint Kirby 5
Dragoon 6

Dragoon becomes Kirby’s final smash.

For other final smashes, Waddle Dee Army, Star Fox Army, and Raichu were voted for without a tie.
Mewtwo’s Final Smash has a tie before I submit my vote, so I’ll break the tiebreaker to make Psycho Cut as Mewtwo’s Final Smash.

Pupp135 4
Butters Stotch 6
Tankman from Newgrounds 3

We’ll use B Butters Stotch’s format for Adventure Mode.

Job 36: Nominate three pokemon from our Alternate Melee to return for the pokeball item.

Eligible Pokemon:
Bulbasaur
Charizard
Blastoise
Beedrill
Jigglypuff
Meowth
Victreebel
Ninetails
Electrode
Gengar
Rhydon
Eevee
Vaporeon
Jolteon
Ditto
Mew
Togepi
Pichu
Scizor
Quagsire
Wobbuffet
Suicune
Lugia
Ho-oh
Celebi

1. Eevee
2. Togepi
3. Wobbuffet

 

[Butters Stotch]

1. Jigglypuff
2. Mew
3. Charizard

 

[Tankman from Newgrounds]

1. Jigglypuff
2. Lugia
3. Ditto

 

[Otoad64]

1. Jigglypuff
2. Electrode
3. Togepi

 

[BowserKing]

1.Rhydon
2.Ditto
3.Quagsire

 

[Deleted member]

1. Jigglypuff
2. Ditto
3. Mew

 

[Pupp135]

Here are the votes

Eevee 3
Togepi 3
Wobbuffet 1
Jigglypuff 12
Mew 3
Charizard 1
Lugia 2
Ditto 5
Electrode 2
Rhydon 3
Quagsire 1

Our next pokemon are Jigglypuff and Ditto.
A poll will be used to determine if Eevee, Togepi, Mew, or Rhydon should return:

Which pokemon should be added for the pokeball item? | StrawPoll

What is your opinion? Vote now: Eevee, Togepi, Mew, Rhydon

strawpoll.com

Job 37: Vote for a Donkey Kong and F-Zero Stage and how it would work.

For Donkey Kong, I‘ll nominate Oil Drum Alley, which works like the one in Project+.

For F-Zero, I’ll just go with Port Town Aero Dive.

 

[Tankman from Newgrounds]

My submissions:
DK stage:
Rumble Falls

I nominate the Rumble Falls from Real Brawl, acts same.

F-Zero stage:
Mute City SNES

I nominate Mute City SNES from Smash 4. Acts same.
Or unless we can change it's style to modern.

 

[Butters Stotch]

Job 37:

I'll submit Aeropolis as our next F-Zero stage. It works similarly to Port Town Aero Dive, but obviously takes place within a different setting.

My choice for DK is Minecart Carnage. Players would fine on the railroads and would be able to ride minecarts across the stage like with The Great Cave Offensive.

 

[Tankman from Newgrounds]

I have a question.
Since we have a 3rd Party retro character in roster, will we get 1st Party Retro character like Ice Climbers or ROB?

 

[Pupp135]

F-Zero stage:
Mute City SNES

I nominate Mute City SNES from Smash 4. Acts same.
Or unless we can change it's style to modern.

You can modernize it if you would like.

I have a question.
Since we have a 3rd Party retro character in roster, will we get 1st Party Retro character like Ice Climbers or ROB?

I wasn’t thinking of doing one at the moment, but we can make this a newcomer prompt after adding more “new“ characters, our first last minute clone, and another open-ended character.

Also, I’ve ignored event matches for awhile, so a non-all star event match can be submitted now every 24 hours until we reach 30.

 

[Tankman from Newgrounds]

You can modernize it if you would like.



I wasn’t thinking of doing one at the moment, but we can make this a newcomer prompt after adding more “new“ characters, our first last minute clone, and another open-ended character.

Also, I’ve ignored event matches for awhile, so a non-all star event match can be submitted now every 24 hours until we reach 30.

1. If I could modernize, don't want to take stuff from Melee Mute City, so I could make it in F-Zero GBA visuals.

2. Thanks for the answer.

 

[Butters Stotch]

Event submission: Two Trouble Kings
Playable character:
Opponents: Ganon
Stage: Princess Peach's Castle
Objective: Defeat both opponents (same as the original, but with a different stage and Ganon instead of )

 

[Tankman from Newgrounds]

Event submission: Mario vs. Sonic

Playable character: Mario
Opponents: Sonic
Stage: Green Hill Zone

Objective: Defeat an Opponent under 3 Minutes.

 

[Pupp135]

Mew is our other pokemon added.

Here are the nominations
Pupp135 Oil Drum Alley and Port Town Aero Dive
Tankman from Newgrounds Rumble Falls and 3DS’s Mute City (GBA aesthetic)
Butters Stotch Minecart Carnage and Aeropolis

Vote for your two most wanted, where your submission is not first.

1. Minecart Carnage
2. Oil Drum Alley

1. “3DS” Mute City
2. Aeropolis

Event Match submission:

Revenge of a King
Player Character: K. Rool
Opponents: Diddy and Giant DK
Stage: Gangplank Galleon
Stocks: 2 (K. Rool and DK), 1 (Diddy)

 

[Tankman from Newgrounds]

DK Stage:
1. Minecart Carnage
2. Rumble Falls

F-Zero Stage:
1. Port Town Aero Dive (ROB Has Cool cameo here)
2. "3DS" Mute City

 

[Butters Stotch]

1. Oil Drum Alley
2. Rumble Falls

1. Port Town Aero Dive
2. Aeropolis (forgot to point out that there's a R.O.B. cameo here, but that probably won't disconfirm him)

Will we cover Subspace roles when the roster is complete? While my proposal was to have most remain the same, some roster choices could impact them.

 

[Deleted member]

1. Oil Drum Alley
2. Minecart Carnage

1. Port Town Aero Dive
2. Mute City

 

[BowserKing]

1.Minecart Madness
2.Runble Falls

1.Port Town Aero Drive
2.Mute City