SmashBoards Creates: A Revised Brawl

[TheLastMaverickHunter]

K. Rool
Metroid Prime
Porky

 

[darkvortex]

1. Mother Brain
2. Porky
3. K. Rool

 

[ssbashworld]

Porky
Mother Brain
Metroid Prime

Since he didnt make the roster think now is a good time to add Isaac as an assist.

Advance Wars Trophies
Nell
Sturm
Olaf
Kanebi
Eagle

 

[TheLastMaverickHunter]

Chunky Kong, as a reference to that one Smash 4 rumor, and Plusle and Minun, another two-in-one deal like Eirika and Ephraim and a shoutout to them almost getting in (assuming that’s what pra_mai was).

 

[Northsouthmap]

1. Mother Brain
2. Porky
3. K. Rool

Burrowing Snagret

Darkrai

 

[Pupp135]

Here are the votes:

King K Rool 7
Mother Brain 11
Porky 9
Metroid Prime 3

Mother Brain is our next boss.

Here are the nominations for the Assists and Pokemon

ssbashworld Isaac
TheLastMaverickHunter Chunky Kong
Northsouthmap Burrowing Snagret
Pupp135 Villager

Vote for three most wanted where yours is not first.

1. Isaac
2. Villager
3. Chunky Kong

TheLastMaverickHunter Plusle and Minun
Northsouthmap Darkrai
Pupp135 Jirachi

1. Plusle and Minun
2. Jirachi

 

[TheLastMaverickHunter]

Here are the votes:

King K Rool 7
Mother Brain 11
Porky 9
Metroid Prime 3

Mother Brain is our next boss.

Here are the nominations for the Assists and Pokemon

ssbashworld Isaac
TheLastMaverickHunter Cranky Kong
Northsouthmap Burrowing Snagret
Pupp135 Villager

Vote for three most wanted where yours is not first.

1. Isaac
2. Villager
3. Cranky Kong

TheLastMaverickHunter Plusle and Minun
Northsouthmap Darkrai
Pupp135 Jirachi

1. Plusle and Minun
2. Jirachi

Just a heads up, I submitted Chunky, not Cranky again.

 

[TheLastMaverickHunter]

Burrowing Snagret
Chunky
Villager

Darkrai
Plusle & Minun

 

[ssbashworld]

Villager
Isaac
Burrowing Snagret

Metal Gear Trophies
1 Liquid Snake
2 Revolver Ocelot
3 Psycho Mantis
4 Meryl Silverburgh
5 Colonel Roy Campbell

 

[darkvortex]

1. Chunky
2. Isaac
3. Burrowing Snagret

1. Plusle and Minun
2. Darkrai

 

[Northsouthmap]

1. Chunky
2. Villager
3. Issac

1. Plusie and Minun
2. Darkrai

 

[Pupp135]

Here are the votes:

Burrowing Snagret 5
Chunky Kong 9
Isaac 8
Villager 8

Chunky Kong is added as an assist, and a poll will be used to choose between Isaac and Villager

Who should be added as an assist trophy? - StrawPoll.com

What is your opinion? Vote now: Isaac, Villager

strawpoll.com

Plusle & Minun 7
Darkrai 4
Jirachi 1

Plusle & Minun will our next pokemon.

Job 124: Submit a Semi-Clone

I’ll go with Lucas as Mother 3 came out around this time in Japan.

I’ll renominate Lucas

 

[TheLastMaverickHunter]

Character Name: Dark Samus
Character Series: Metroid
Character Origin: Metroid Prime 2: Echoes (2004)

I felt a new Metroid character would be a good inclusion for this kind of role, and whilst I'm very aware that there is a certain Space Pirate who'd be gunning for this role, I'd also like to take the opportunity to suggest a different take on this concept. I'll admit, I realise that I'll probably need to somewhat justify Dark Samus given she's an Echo Fighter in Ultimate, so I'll try and pick it apart.

First things first, Dark Samus has more than enough moveset potential to warrant being a wholly unique character without any borrowed elements from Samus herself. Bear in mind, by the time we've gotten to Brawl's release, we've seen it in both Prime 2 and Prime 3, with the overarching threat of Phazon continuing as a prominent plot point that'll undoubtedly be a relevant matter going forward. Given its connection to Phazon as well as its multiple boss battles, plus a bit of creative license on top of that, you'd easily have a unique moveset that'd feel like very much a departure from Samus, or even other members of the roster. For an idea of how this could look, check out some of its assist trophy attacks back in Sm4sh for an idea, albeit toned down a little for the sake of balancing.

Not only this, it's important to also consider that the Metroid series was... actually in a pretty decent place by 2008. Considering the time for development up to Brawl's release has seen the release of spinoffs like Metroid Prime Pinball and Metroid Prime: Hunters, as well as the second and third entries to the critically acclaimed Metroid Prime series, the series was in a position at this point where it'd somewhat warrant a new character on top of Samus herself. That said, given Zero Suit Samus isn't included here, the space for a new Metroid character is blown wide open - and I think it'd be a good call.

Not only this, but the inclusion of yet another villain to the roster is always good. Whilst Melee saw the landmark inclusions of Bowser, Ganondorf and arguably Mewtwo, this game's seeing the inclusion of King Dedede, Meta Knight, Wolf and Wario - adding another villain to the fold feels like a good call, and whilst there are potential for picks from other series, Metroid would lend to a unique one overall in terms of visual identity and vibe, and Dark Samus makes for an interesting parallel to Wario and Wolf in terms of the whole "dark reflection of the protagonist" thing they have going on.

In closing, I feel like Dark Samus is in the right place at the right time for a last-minute inclusion. It might not be the character people would expect, but it would be a unique breath of fresh air that could easily provide an interesting moveset with a visual flair all of its own. It's representing another mainstay series that people would be clamouring to get another roster spot - akin to Kirby's position prior to this game's release - at arguably the height of its mainstream appeal. And, well... we can rest easy knowing that Dark Samus isn't too big.

 

[Northsouthmap]

Black Shadow (F-Zero)
He'll take Ganondorf's moveset and Ganon will get a new one.

 

[darkvortex]

Toon Link

 

[Pupp135]

I’ll leave nominations up until tomorrow, and then we’ll vote for the final three characters (two will be from the nominations, and the last one will be among Jigglypuff and the four missing clones).

 

[Pupp135]

From the poll, Isaac is our next assist trophy.

Black Shadow (F-Zero)
He'll take Ganondorf's moveset and Ganon will get a new one.

Like in the real Brawl, Ganondorf will be decloned to some degree, but he won’t get fully revamped because of time constraints in this scenario. I’ll later set up a job that goes over what differences Ganondorf, Falco, Wolf, and the other semi-clones will have from their parent fighter.

Here are the nominations:

Pupp135 Lucas
TheLastMaverickHunter Dark Samus
Northsouthmap Black Shadow
D darkvortex Toon Link

Vote for your three most wanted fighters, where yours is not first.

1. Toon Link
2. Dark Samus
3. Lucas

Job 125: Vote for three most wanted characters from the list below to complete the roster.

Spoiler: Eligible Fighters

Jigglypuff
Dr. Mario
Pichu
Young Link
Roy

1. Jigglypuff
2. Roy
3. Pichu

I’ll submit some alts and trophies

Peach: Pauline
Zelda/Sheik: Blue
Marth: Red
Ness: Green

Trophies
Ike
Caeda
Paula
Jeff
Poo

 

[TheLastMaverickHunter]

Dark Samus
Toon Link
Black Shadow

Roy
Dr. Mario
Pichu

 

[ssbashworld]

Black Shadow
Dark Samus
Lucas

Jigglypuff
Roy
Pichu

Sonic Trophies
1 Tails
2 Knuckles
3 Shadow
4 Blaze
5 Cream & Cheese

 

[darkvortex]

1. Lucas
2. Dark Samus
3. Toon Link

1. Jigglypuff
2. Roy
3. Pichu

 

[Northsouthmap]

1. Lucas
2. Black Shadow
3. Dark Samus

1. Jigglypuff
2. Roy
3. Pichu

 

[Perkilator]

1. Jigglypuff
2. Roy
3. Young Link

 

[Pupp135]

I’ll leave the voting up for tonight.

I forgot the poll for Waiting Room

Should Online Waiting Room - StrawPoll.com

What is your opinion? Vote now: Yes, No

strawpoll.com

 

[Pupp135]

Here are the votes
Lucas 8
Dark Samus 10
Black Shadow 6
Toon Link 6

Dark Samus and Lucas are our last newcomers.

Jigglypuff 15
Dr. Mario 2
Pichu 5
Young Link 1
Roy 13

Jigglypuff is our last fighter.

Job 126: Submit a Final Boss for Subspace.

I’m fine with keeping Tabuu.

Job 127: Submit the order for boss fights in Subspace.

Maps with boss battles
Midair Stadium
The Lake
The Ruined Zoo
The Wilds I and The Ruined Hall
Research Facility II and Subspace Bomb Factory
Battle Ship Halberd Bridge

Here are the bosses for reference:
Petey Piranha
Vaati
Mother Brian
Ashnard
Dedede Robo
Rayquaza

My nominated order
Midair Stadium: Petey
The Lake: Rayquaza
The Ruined Zoo: Ashnard
The Wilds I and The Ruined Hall: Dedede Robo
Research Facility II and Subspace Bomb Factory: Mother Brain
Battle Ship Halberd Bridge: Vaati

 

[Pupp135]

By default, Tabuu will be the final boss, and we’ll use my order for bosses.

Job 129: Give Lucario and Ridley Movesets and Jigglypuff a Final Smash.

Job 130: Give Luigi, Ganondorf, Falco, and the Brawl Semi-Clones slight differences (roughly 3-5 changes) from their parent fighter (this is not an overhaul).

For the newcomers, I’ll nominate Wolf and Lucas with their Brawl movesets, Dark Samus with her Smash Remix one, and Ganondorf with his sword.

 

[TheLastMaverickHunter]

Job #129:
As a reference to the anime, Puff’s Final Smash has her put every opponent to sleep (like Peach Blossom) before drawing on their faces.

Job #130:
I might come back to this later, but for now, change Luigi’s Neutral Special to Thunderhand.

 

[Northsouthmap]

Lucario's moveset from Brawl, Ridley's moveset from Ultimate

Puff's Final Smash is same as real game.

 

[Pupp135]

I’ll leave this job up until tomorrow night, and then we’ll focus on the final items/assist trophies.

 

[Pupp135]

By default, Lucario gets its Brawl moveset, and Ridley gets his Ultimate one.

Also, we’ll with TheLastMaverickHunter ’s change for Luigi and my changes for Ganondorf, Wolf, Lucas, and Dark Samus.

Here is a poll to determine if Jigglypuff’s final smash is marker draw or puff up.

Which Jigglypuff final smash should be used? - StrawPoll.com

What is your opinion? Vote now: Marker Draw, Puff Up

strawpoll.com

Job 131: Vote for three items that you’d like to see return.

Spoiler: Eligible Items

Capsule
Cloaking Device
Crate
Flipper
Metal Box
Red Shell

1. Crate
2. Capsule
3. Cloaking Device

Job 132: Nominate a Nintendo, Metal Gear, or Sonic assist trophy.

I’ll nominate King K Rool, who would use his specials in Ultimate.

Here are some alts that I’ll add
Ness: Paula Colors
Ice Climbers: Black Parka
Jigglypuff: Crown

Here are some trophies that I’ll add.

Lyn
Kumatora
Claus
Porky
Amy

 

[TheLastMaverickHunter]

Job #132:

Toadies. Carry an opponent away like the Galaga item.

Alternate costumes:

• Peach: White
• DK: Blue
• Ridley: Red/Super Metroid boxart
• Dark Samus: SA-X
• Meta Knight: White
• Falco: Red/Assault
• Jigglypuff: Headband
• Lucas: Kumatora

 

[TheLastMaverickHunter]

1. Red Shell
2. Metal Box
3. Capsule

 

[ssbashworld]

Metal Gear - Psycho Mantis
Inverts players controls

Red Shell
Crate
Metal Box

Alts
Luigi - Foreman Spike 85 Colors
Peach - Rosalina Colors
Diddy - DK Jr Colors

 

[darkvortex]

Metal Gear - Psycho Mantis
Inverts players controls

Sonic - Dr. Eggman
Particularly based on Egg Wrecker

Red Shell
Crate
Metal Box

Alts
Luigi - Foreman Spike 85 Colors
Peach - Rosalina Colors
Diddy - DK Jr Colors

Eggman is already an assist

 

[ssbashworld]

Eggman is already an assist

Just noticed that, forgot we added 3rd party assists before, misread job too thought it was & not or for the assist. Thanks for pointing out & post is now fixed.

 

[darkvortex]

Tails
Will fly around and pick up a fighter who falls off the stage and carry them to safety

 

[Northsouthmap]

1. Red Shell
2. Crate
3. Metal Box

Villager
Acts like Isabelle assist in Smash 4.

 

[Pupp135]

Marker Draw is Jigglypuff’s final smash

Here are the votes for items
Red Shell 9
Metal Box 4
Cloaking Device 1
Crate 7
Capsule 3

Red Shell and Crate are our final items.

For the assist nominations, here are the nominations:
TheLastMaverickHunter Toadies
ssbashworld Psycho Mantis
D darkvortex Tails
Northsouthmap Villager
Pupp135 King K Rool

Vote for your three most wanted, where yours is not first.
1. Villager
2. Psycho Mantis
3. K Rool

Job 133: Submit Unlock Requirements for the following fighters:

Spoiler: Secret Characters

Peach
Ice Climbers
Zelda/Sheik
Ganondorf
Ridley
Dark Samus
Marth
Falco
Ness
Lucas
Lucario
Jigglypuff

Unlock requirements match counts will be in sets of 10
Peach: Clear Classic Mode
Marth: Clear Classic Mode w/o Continues
Zelda/Sheik: Beat all 5 target test levels
Ice Climbers: Collect 50 trophies
Falco: Beat Mob Smash
Ness: Beat 10 Event Matches
Lucario: Beat Classic Mode with 10 fighters
Ganondorf: Beat Classic Mode as Link, Zelda, Sheik, or Midna on hard+
Ridley: Beat a Target Test level with the starting cast.
Jigglypuff: Beat 20 events after clearing Subspace
Lucas: Clear Classic Mode as Ness after clearing Subspace
Dark Samus: Beat Boss Battles as Samus or Ridley

Job 134: How should Sami, Wolf, and Ridley fit into Subspace. Also, how should we approach Pokemon Trainer’s role in Subspace as Lucas is a post-subspace fighter in this timeline?

 

[darkvortex]

1. K. Rool
2. Villager
3. Toadies

 

[ssbashworld]

Villager
K. Rool
Psycho Mantis

Alts
Zelda/Sheik - Classic (Lighter pink & orangish hair based on artwork from 1st 2 games)
Ganon - WW Phantom Ganon colors
Midna - Grey/Brown (based on some of Wolf Link's coloration)

 

[TheLastMaverickHunter]

Villager
Toadies
K. Rool

Wolf takes Wario’s villainous role, while he or Sami would team up with Link. Yoshi is saved by Ness and, as another user suggested, is initially mistaken as a Pokemon before teaming up with the Trainer.

Spoiler: Character unlocks

• - Complete Classic Mode
• - Complete Classic Mode without continues
• - Complete Classic Mode in under 20 minutes
• - Complete 100-Man Brawl
• - Complete Home-Run Contest with all starter characters
• - Complete all Target Test stages
• - Complete Classic Mode on Hard+ with Link, Zelda or Midna
• - Collect 200 Trophies
• - Play 10 hours of Vs. Matches
• - Complete Boss Battles with Ness
• - Complete 20 Events after The Subspace Emissary
• - Earn one KO in Cruel Brawl after The Subspace Emissary