Smashboards Creates: A Community Proposed SSB6

[BritishGuy54]

Job 154: Noah (Xenoblade)

I think a newer character is warranted at this point. We’ve focused a lot on veterans, and older faces until now. A last-ditch effort to get a new character here is needed.

 

[Northsouthmap]

Tails
I want Sonic to have another character.

Resubmitting Tails

1. BritishGuy
2. Pupp

 

[Pupp135]

Here are the votes

Pupp135 6
BritishGuy54 6
Northsouthmap

There’s a tie, so I’ll set up a poll to choose between mine and BritishGuy54’s DLC

Whose DLC proposal should we use? - Online Poll - StrawPoll.com

What's your opinion? Vote now: Pupp135, BritishGuy54...

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We’ll use my online layout.

Here are the nominations for the final base game fighters.
Pupp135 Mii Fighters
D darkvortex Duck Hunt
Louie G. Wii Fit Trainer
BritishGuy54 Noah
Northsouthmap Tails

Vote for your three most wanted, where yours is not first.

1. Wii Fit Trainer
2. Mii Fighters
3. Duck Hunt

As DLC may exclusively be newcomers, I’d like to squeeze in a couple extra veterans before starting the DLC cycle, and I picked Wii Fit Trainer over Duck Hunt over preference.

Feel Free to Submit Alts and Five Trophies (Please List Series)

D darkvortex can select a sixth trophy as Tortimer was already added as a trophy

Happy Fourth of July for those who celebrate!

 

[BritishGuy54]

1. Mii Fighters
2. Noah
3. Tails

Miis are warranted. Gotta bring them in sooner rather than later.

I just think with how little room we’ve left ourselves, I’d rather bring in more newcomers now with us potentially bringing veterans in as DLC. Noah is my clear pick here, with us lacking a few new newcomer choices.

I think we did Fire Emblem dirty by not bringing Byleth back, by the way.

I’m open to Tails, but I’m okay with leaving Sonic’s new character to DLC.

Trophies:
Jin (Xenoblade 2)
Taion (Xenoblade 3)
Lanz (Xenoblade 3)
Sena (Xenoblade 3)
Z (Xenoblade 3)

Last minute trophy additions to bring more depth to this series.

 

[darkvortex]

1. Mii Fighters
2. Duck Hunt
3. Noah

Trophies
Zant (Zelda)
Jack (Animal Crossing)
Tharja (Fire Emblem)
Deep Cut (Splatoon)
Bite and Barq (ARMS)
Dhalsim (Street Fighter)

 

[Pupp135]

1. Mii Fighters
2. Duck Hunt
3. Noah

Trophies
Zant (Zelda)
Jack (Animal Crossing)
Tharja (Fire Emblem)
Deep Cut (Splatoon)
Bite and Barq (ARMS)
Dhalsim (Street Fighter)

As Deepcut is currently listed as a trophy, feel free to add a new one in their place.

 

[Northsouthmap]

1. Mii Fighters
2. Wii Fit Trainer
3. Duck Hunt

Game and Watch Trophies:
Ball
Octopus
Judge
Parachute
Oil Panic

 

[Pupp135]

Here are the votes:

Mii Fighters 11
Duck Hunt 4
Wii Fit Trainer 5
Noah 3
Tails 1

Mii Fighters and Wii Fit Trainer are the final base game fighters.

Also, we’ll use BritishGuy54’s DLC format. During the next checkin once all assists, echoes, and stages are added, I’ll ask how we should handle DLC fighter and stage nominations based on this format.

Job 155: Submit a Wii/Mii Stage (new or old)

I’ll nominate Wii Music Concert Hall as a new stage as we don’t have many or maybe any musical themedstages at the moment. The layout would be simple, and the background changes over time.

Job 156: Submit an Assist

I’ll nominate Impa here, and she’d use a couple attacks from Age of Calamity for her attacks.

For this bonus round feel free to submit alts, music that you’d like added (please specify series), and Mii Outfits (please specify Mii Fighter type and series character originates from)

Mii Outfits
Chrom (Swordfighter)
Lip (Swordfighter)
Takamaru (Swordfighter)
Saki (Gunner)
Ray MKIII (Gunner)
Tails (Gunner)
Knuckles (Brawler)
Amy Rose (Swordfighter)
Aerith (Swordfighter)
Barret (Gunner)

 

[BritishGuy54]

Job 155: Wuhu Island (Wii Sports Resort)

Not much to add here. Iconic location from the Wii era.

Job 156: Captain Toad (Super Mario)

I suppose one more assist could be given to Mario, and I think Captain Toad is a fine choice here. Captain Toad could throw turnips, and run back and forth on a platform from left to right (Toad can’t jump).

I think this role suits Captain Toad pretty well.

Music:
Slide (Super Mario 64)
Super Mario Bros. Wonder Medley
Tough Guy Alert (Mario & Luigi: Bowser’s Inside Story)
Calamari Inkantation (Splatoon)
You Will Recall Our Names (Xenoblade 2)
You Will Know Our Names - Finale (Xenoblade 3)
Megalovania (Remix) (Undertale)

Mii Costumes:
Shy Guy (Super Mario) - Brawler
Hammer Bro. (Super Mario) - Swordfighter
Geno (Super Mario) - Gunner
Mio (Xenoblade 3) - Brawler
Rex (Xenoblade 2) - Swordfighter
Eunie (Xenoblade 3) - Gunner
Tifa (Final Fantasy VII) - Brawler
Lloyd (Tales of Symphonia) - Swordfighter
Sans (Undertale) - Gunner

 

[Northsouthmap]

Wii Fit Studio
Same layout as the previous games

Squawks
Carries the summoner if they are launched off the platform.

Daisy Alts:
1. Default
2. Tennis Outfit
3. Strikers Outfit
4. Golf Outfit
5. Racer Outfit

 

[TORNADO BUS DRIVER]

Tomodachi Life

Ashley
Works like she did before. Wario doesn't have an assist yet.

 

[darkvortex]

Bowling Alley
You fight in the middle of the land as bowling balls fly through. A really iconic Mii sports game.

Proto Man
Proto Man will perform his whistle before appearing in front of an opponent. Proto Man then assaults the summoner's foe(s) using four different methods of attack. One attack he performs is dashing back and forth while ramming opponents with his Proto Shield. He also attacks by rapidly firing yellow-colored shots from his Proto Buster. When Proto Man's target is in the air or on a platform above him, he will leap upward and fire a quick series of shots in a progressively downward direction.

 

[Pupp135]

Here are the nominations

Pupp135 Wii Music Concert Hall
BritishGuy54 Wuhu Island
Northsouthmap Wii Fit Studio
TORNADO BUS DRIVER Tomadachi Life
D darkvortex Bowling Alley

Vote for your three most wanted, where yours is not first.

1. Wuhu Island
2. Wii Fit Studio
3. Wii Music Concert Hall

Pupp135 Impa
BritishGuy54 Captain Toad
Northsouthmap Squawks
TORNADO BUS DRIVER Ashley
D darkvortex Proto Man

Vote for your three most wanted, where yours is not first.

1. Ashley
2. Impa
3. Captain Toad

Job 157: Submit a Stage (Open Ended)

I’ll nominate Above Peach’s Castle here as it is a fun casual stage, and we don’t have a Peach’s Castle stage yet.

Job 158: Submit an Echo Fighter.


For this bonus round feel free to moveset changes to one veteran, submit alts, three trophies that you’d like to add (please specify series), music that you’d like added (please specify series), and Mii Outfits (please specify Mii Fighter type and series character originates from).

Mii Outfits:
Captain Falcon (Brawler)
King K. Rool (Brawler)
Callie (Brawler)
Ninjara (Brawler)
Link (Swordfighter)
Rathalos Mail (Swordfighter)
Inkling Girl (Gunner)
Inkling Boy (Gunner)
Isabelle (Gunner)
K.K. Slider (Gunner)

I’ll just provide Fire Emblem trophies from Blazing Sword at the moment.
Eliwood
Hector
Nino

 

[BritishGuy54]

1. Bowling Alley
2. Wuhu Island
3. Tomodachi Life

1. Ashley
2. Captain Toad
3. Proto Man

Job 157: Metro City Downtown (Street Fighter 6)

Job 145: Metro City Downtown (Street Fighter 6)

I don’t think a second Street Fighter stage would hurt. And why not one from the newest game?

Obvious censorship needed though. But it makes for a different aesthetic we don’t have in Smash yet.

Job 158: Alvis (Xenoblade) (echo fighter of Shulk)

Job 140: Alvis (Xenoblade Chronicles) (Echo Fighter of Shulk)

I’m all for the trend of having bosses be altered versions of playable fighters, and Alvis is no different, and Alvis is to Alpha what Bowser/Eggman are to their boss forms.

As an echo fighter of Shulk, Alvis would share many moves. Some Monado Arts would be different, such as Alvis using Monado Purge to debuff opponents and Monado Cyclone to increase knockback or the like.

And I don’t just want us to rely too heavily on existing echo fighters. Get some new echoes in here, I say.

Perhaps changing Shulk to have the Monado II instead is a possibility to make them a bit more different?

Plus, Alvis would mark the first antagonist for the series in the roster.

Trophies:
Byleth (Fire Emblem)
Silver the Hedgehog (Sonic)
Wisps (Sonic)

Music:
His World (Sonic the Hedgehog 2006)
Break Through It All (Sonic Frontiers)
Find Your Flame (Sonic Frontiers)

Mii Costumes:
Classic Tunic (The Legend of Zelda) - Swordfighter
Team Rocket (Pokémon) - Brawler
Chibi-Robo (Chibi-Robo) - Brawler
Groose (The Legend of Zelda) - Brawler
Proto Man (Mega Man) - Gunner
M. Bison (Street Fighter) - Brawler

 

[darkvortex]

1. Tomadachi Life
2. Wii Fit Studio
3. Wuhu Island

1. Ashley
2. Captain Toad
3. Proto Man

Ken
The echo imo. Just makes too much sense

Pokefloats 2
A modern updating of the stage with new Pokemon.

 

[Northsouthmap]

1. Wuhu Island
2. Wii Fit Studio
3. Tomadachi Life

1. Ashley
2. Captain Toad
3. Squawks

Dixie Kong (Diddy Echo)

Ice Climber Trophies:
Polar Bear
Condor
Eggplant

 

[TORNADO BUS DRIVER]

Metal Sonic
Shadow would have worked but he's stuck as an assist trophy. Would be a slower, heavier but more powerful Sonic.

Skull Fortress
Based on the stage from SSF. Gives us some classic Mega Man rep

 

[Pupp135]

Here are the votes

Wii Music Concert Hall 1
Wuhu Island 9
Wii Fit Studio 6
Tomadachi Life 5
Bowling Alley 3

Wuhu Island is added as a stage.

Impa 2
Captain Toad 7
Squawks 1
Ashley 12
Proto Man 2

Ashley and Captain Toad are the final assists.

Here are the base final stage nominations:

Pupp135 (Above) Peach’s Castle
BritishGuy54 Metro City Downtown
D darkvortex Pokefloats 2
TORNADO BUS DRIVER Skull Fortress

Vote for your three most wanted, where yours is not first.

1. Pokefloats 2
2. (Above) Peach’s Castle
3. Skull Fortress

Here are the final echo nominations

Pupp135 Richter
BritishGuy54 Alvis
D darkvortex Ken
Northsouthmap Dixie Kong
TORNADO BUS DRIVER Metal Sonic

Vote for your three most wanted, where yours is not first.

1. Ken
2. Richter
3. Metal Sonic

 

[darkvortex]

1. Dixie
2. Ken
3. Metal Sonic

1. Metro City Downtown
2. Pokefloats 2
3. Skull Fortress

 

[Northsouthmap]

1. Poke Floats 2
2. Metro City Downtown
3. Skull Fortress

1. Ken
2. Metal Sonic
3. Dixie Kong

 

[Mushroomguy12]

1. Dixie Kong
2. Ken
3. Richter

1. Peach's Castle
2. Poke Floats 2
3. Metro City Downtown

 

[Pupp135]

Here are the votes

Above Peach’s Castle 5
Metro City Downtown 6
Pokefloats 2 10
Skull Fortress 3

Metro City Downtown and Pokefloats 2 are the final base game stages.

Richter 3
Alvis
Ken 10
Dixie Kong 7
Metal Sonic 4

Ken and Dixie Kong are the final echo fighters.

Check-in: How does everyone feel about the final base game content? What’s everyone’s opinion on the character and stage selections? What did you like seeing, and what would have you liked to see? How is the format of the thread so far, and where can I improve this formatting?

Roster: Overall, I liked the roster a lot. I feel like it covers almost all of the essential bases with the only exception personally being Lucario. In addition to this, I’m really happy that we still kept Ice Climbers on here as they are my main, and it’s cool to see some overlooked fighters like R.O.B., Palutena, and Wii Fit Trainer also make the cut. In terms of newcomers, Isaac is an addition that I like, and I think it has a nice balance of expected fan favorites and some less expected fighters. As veterans aren’t part of DLC, I probably would have tried to squeeze in Sheik, Sora, and Jigglypuff into my roster. For DLC, I’m expecting at least a Sonic newcomer (I’d prefer Tails from the most realistic ones but Amy overall) and one or two Microsoft characters. My dream choice is Tidus from FFX.

Stages: I don’t have too much to say here but the stage selection has nice variety, and I like that we added a Mario Party stage and Pokefloats 2. Also, most of my favorite past stages returned. The only things that I’d want are Above Peach’s Castle and a new Mario Kart stage.

Because we’ll be in the DLC stage of the thread, I’m wondering how we should approach the fighter passes as I’m unsure if would be the best idea to just leave it open ended for each newcomer. Also, should users submit a stage along with their fighter, or should the stage be submitted after?

I can also check who needs to bring in trophy replacements for assists/fighters like Ashley, Dixie Kong, and Ken.

 

[Mushroomguy12]

Will veterans be in DLC like in Smash 4?

 

[Pupp135]

Will veterans be in DLC like in Smash 4?

Our proposal will have no veterans as DLC

 

[Mushroomguy12]

Have we decided how many DLC fighters there will be?

 

[Pupp135]

Have we decided how many DLC fighters there will be?

There are 13 fighters (1 bonus fighter in addition to two 6 fighter passes)

 

[Mushroomguy12]

Are they all unique or some echo?

 

[darkvortex]

Will assist \ boss upgrades be allowed?

 

[Pupp135]

I think they’re all unique, and while I would exclude assist/boss upgrades like in Ultimate, I’ll let BritishGuy54 help add more information as he made this proposal.

 

[BritishGuy54]

Check-In:

The Roster:
I feel mixed about the selection of the roster. Many of the unique newcomers feel warranted, however…

I do feel like the Donkey Kong series has been wildly over-represented here. I don’t think we needed all the faces here, and adding Dixie at the end felt a bit like overkill. We could have cut her or K. Rool loose and it wouldn’t feel as severe.

Same could be said for Street Fighter. I think having just Ryu and Chun-Li was fine, and then we added Ken for some reason.

Then the missed opportunities. Fire Emblem has now massively leaned towards the classic side of the series. I know Byleth was controversial, but I would have preferred keeping Byleth over Ike in this scenario.

Xenoblade is another one. I only managed to sneak in Pneuma due to moveset changes, plus Alpha as a boss. The lack of Noah or Mio is a little worrying.

What I’ve gauged from this is that people were very hesitant on adding new content since Ultimate, and focused more on bringing forward older content. While that’s fine, I’m not satisfied with this as a Smash 6. We did the bare minimum with bringing in Ring Fit Trainee and a weird pick with Tinkaton.

Sometimes it felt like we were trying to be unexpected for the sake of being unexpected. Or different for the sake of being different. I just hope we could add more obvious and recent content in DLC rather than just filling it up with third parties.

Stages:
I’ve spoken on stages before, so here we go.

My only point of contention is the Sonic stages. Why did we choose two classic stages? Two visually similar classic stages, at that point. We should have had a more modern leaning stage here.

I don’t usually rant this much, but there are a lot of missed opportunities overall. We probably should have thought more on if we should do things rather than if we could.

Bosses:
Our boss selection relied on the luck of the draw. People didn’t seem very engaged with it. We were definitely leaning towards already existing bosses in Smash rather than new bosses being introduced to Smash.

Assists:
I like the assist selection. No problems here.

DLC Proposal:
Boss/Assist upgrades will not be permitted here. All characters are unique characters. Echoes will not be permitted here. Veterans will not be permitted here.

The only exceptions I can think of is that you can submit Dr. Eggman, and have the Death Egg Robot as a Final Smash, but not the Death Egg Robot as a fighter. You can submit Alvis, but not Alpha for the same reason.

 

[Mushroomguy12]

Thoughts

So I only recently jumped in here to participate, but I've been following the roster for a while (My energy was spent on other threads but those have mostly ended now).

Most of the characters in the roster seem like fine picks, for 1st Parties, the most glaring absenses for me would be and possibly . Some other personal favorites of mine that I would've liked to see back but I acknowledge as less priority would be .


For the DLC, I would be lying if I said I wasn't disappointed by the idea of not being able to bring a single veteran back tbh. If there was an actual SSB6 with 20+ cuts, I really heavily doubt they wouldn't at least have some veterans mixed in there. Obviously Ultimate didn't have veteran DLC because there were no cuts, but for the only other Smash game with DLC and that did have cuts, Smash 4 practically had almost half the DLC lineup consist of veterans.

I know it's already been voted on (I would have personally voted differently if I had been actively participating), but while I acknowledge that there are lots of excellent newcomer choices, it's difficult to think of 13 characters that could fill the massive gap left by the likes of , etc. I acknowledge this is a smaller roster with a smaller focus on enormous 3rd Parties, but I would have liked to see at least a fraction of them back, considering how big some of these characters and franchises are (there's a reason why there was so much excitement in Ultimate for them). I would also have wanted the DLC to be mostly newcomers but I think I would saved at least 3-5 of the 13 spots, maybe 20-30% for veterans.

 

[darkvortex]

Yah no vets in dlc is a let down. It was voted on though so it's just the way it is

 

[Pupp135]

I’ll start the DLC jobs today.

Job 159: Submit a DLC Newcomer for the bonus fighter.

Spoiler: Barred Fighters

Dr. Mario
Rosalina & Luma
Piranha Plant
Duck Hunt
Sheik
Young Link
Toon Link
Zero Suit Samus
Dark Pit
Richter Belmont
Snake
Hero
Roy
Chrom
Corrin
Byleth
Terry Bogard
Wolf
Kazuya Mashima
Lucas
Sephiroth
Jigglypuff
Pichu
Lucario
Incinoroar
Banjo & Kazooie
Sora
Bayonetta
Steve
Joker

I don’t think we’ve added a genuine surprise fighter yet, and Excitebike Rider seems to be one that fits the niche well given its success in the ‘80s and potentially unconventional methods of fighting.

Feel free to alts for fighters.

For trophy replaces, I’ll add a Donkey Kong trophy in place of Dixie Kong, D darkvortex will add a Wario trophy in place of Ashley, and Northsouthmap will add a Street Fighter trophy in place of Ken.

 

[Mushroomguy12]

Bonus Fighter

Cooking Mama

I'm guessing the theme of the bonus fighter is surprise, and Cooking Mama is quite the unconventional fighter that has a long history with Nintendo. She'd represent a new genre of... well, cooking, and bring a kitchen/gourmet based moveset that would be quite unique.

 

[DragonRobotKing26]

Job 159: Bomberman

i think that Bomberman is a good choice,he have a very long history with Nintendo,since NES,nad he is my wanted character

 

[darkvortex]

Tetromino
One of the most iconic video game objects of all time. Would have an unusual moveset that turns into different shapes.

 

[BritishGuy54]

Job 159: Shy Guy (Super Mario (or Yoshi))

Surprise enemy that follows the footsteps of Piranha Plant.

 

[Louie G.]

I didn't really feel like writing extensive thoughts about the roster, but it's solid. I agree that we overlooked a few areas we could have done better by or expanded on, and put too many eggs into one or two baskets, but mostly is inoffensive. I think we did pretty well by the modern landscape, honestly. We added newcomers from Animal Crossing and Splatoon, maintained ARMS and Xeno 2 representation, brought in Ring Fit Trainee and a new Pokemon. Could we have done better? Definitely - had we given this another shot I think I'd have pushed harder for Edelgard or something, at least. Losing that Three Houses representation feels odd even if I personally like the four unique FE characters we have right now best. I like that we focused on adding new series although I do think we skewed a bit heavy on the GBA era nostalgia.

The lack of Duck Hunt is odd, only by virtue of every other first party series being here. And I'm honestly very disappointed that DLC doesn't allow for any veterans, seeing how many third parties needed to be cut and how we still have some loose ends like the one I mentioned. Frankly I don't really know what the point of shutting that out entirely is if there was already going to be a limitation put on the amt of vets but whatever.

Job 159: Bulborb

Obviously playing off the idea of Piranha Plant a little bit, which seems to be a thought some of us have shared. But I honestly think Bulborb is the most efficient choice for a ”generic enemy” role.

Pikmin is growing. While I think Olimar does a nice job representing the series, if we want to deal respect toward the series that have been making moves during the Switch era, Pikmin deserves a nod. And unfortunately Oatchi is an AT, so that option is off the table. But I think Pikmin deserves something new.

Pikmin doesn’t really have a villain - rather, nature is the antagonist. The Pikmin need to combat an unforgiving world. And their natural enemy is the Bulborb, this goofy creature who takes a variety of forms. Due to their unconventional body type and bestial nature, I think they would be plenty of fun to control. And are ripe for potential, as seen in one of my favorite moveset concepts: https://www.reddit.com/r/Pikmin/s/uve3k7uLRj

So if we wanna do something silly in the vein of Plant, I think this would be a great way to go. It gives some love toward a series that has seen its greatest success over the last few years, represents a core element of that game and would have a hell of a fun moveset to boot.

 

[Northsouthmap]

Takamaru
Fits the surprise niche like Piranha Plant, but unlike them, is highly requested

Street Fighter Trophy:
Akuma

 

[Pupp135]

Here are the nominations

Pupp135 Excitebike Rider
Mushroomguy12 Cooking Mama
DragonRobotKing26 Bomberman
D darkvortex Tetromino
BritishGuy54 Shy Guy
Louie G. Bulborb
Northsouthmap Takamaru

Vote for your three most wanted fighters, where yours is not first.

1. Cooking Mama
2. Bomberman
3. Excitebike Rider

Cooking Mama is an overlooked third party fighter who seems like an interesting addition, and Bomberman has been a decently popular request.