Smash WiiU & 3DS Miiverse Daily Pic - June 24th

[Mega Bidoof]

I don't see why people say that Skyward Sword is over-represented.

It has 1 stage, 2 items (Gust Bellows and Beetle), 1 semi-alt., and possibly one newcomer.

Twilight Princess has 2 characters using it's designs (probably 3 with Gamondorf), 1 assist trophy, 1 move for a character (Gale Boomerang), and maybe 1 stage (if Bridge of Eldin comes back).

 

[Aninymouse]

What are you talking about? Sakurai is clearly biased in Twilight Princess favor. Both Link and Zelda designs are from TP, SS only got one stage and a one item.

I just disaprove the idea of a combination between differents Links-Zeldas.
Another example is Zelda Phantom, thats terrible.

You're allowed to feel that way, sure, don't get me wrong, but from where I'm sitting? All I can think of is, "chill out, dude." If Link was an actual historical figure instead of a work of fiction, it would maybe matter more. Maybe. But he's not real. He's just a cartoon character, so to speak.

I like the new outfit. I looks good.

 

[Ragna22]

What are you talking about? Sakurai is clearly biased in Twilight Princess favor. Both Link and Zelda designs are from TP, SS only got one stage and a one item.

I just disaprove the idea of a combination between differents Links-Zeldas.
Another example is Zelda Phantom, thats terrible.

Yeah we have the Twilight Princess models and Midna as an assist trophy but we also have a Skyward Sword stage in the form of Skyloft, we have the Skyward Sword heart container design, we have the beetle and the wind item both from Skyward Sword and of course we have this very color for Link, meanwhile in Brawl besides the character models all we really have is the Bridge of Elden from Twilight Princess and the heart container design from the same game and unless there's something else I'm not remembering that's really it.

 

[L9999]

Link looks amazing in this pic. The pic just screams "you are terminated!"

 

[Kenith]

What are you talking about? Sakurai is clearly biased in Twilight Princess favor. Both Link and Zelda designs are from TP, SS only got one stage and a one item.

Actually, two items. The Beetle and Gust Bellows. Four if you count the Fairy Bottle and Heart Container which has the Skyward Sword design.

Also, there's something else that could potential represent Skyward Sword...

 

[Uffe]

If there is a blue costume of this alternate costume, I'm using that one. Man, this looks great!

 

[Mega Bidoof]

Actually, two items. The Beetle and Gust Bellows. Four if you count the Fairy Bottle and Heart Container which has the Skyward Sword design.

Also, there's something else that could potential represent Skyward Sword...

Ghirahim Sticker?

 

[L9999]

Speaking of stickers, they haven't showed up at all.

 

[Kenith]

Ghirahim Sticker?

I don't think stickers will be in the game.

 

[Kink-Link5]

Wow, are you people seriously complaining about him wearing the cap?

Just...stop it.

People are bothered by what implications it has for other characters and costumes.

Well I guess Sakurai felt there wasn't enough Skyward Sword representation. (joking) He REALLY seems to have enjoyed Skyward Sword cause I don't think there was this much Twilight Princess representation in Brawl.

Dark Link used the TP style, Bridge of Eldin featuring a niche element from the game was one of the most prolific stages in the game, and all three main Zelda characters used models based on their TP appearance. Heart Containers, as well as Link's ****ty gale boomerang, also use TP models.

Brawl2 uses one stage, one costume, and an item from Skyward Sword.

 

[Raetah]

You're allowed to feel that way, sure, don't get me wrong, but from where I'm sitting? All I can think of is, "chill out, dude." If Link was an actual historical figure instead of a work of fiction, it would maybe matter more. Maybe. But he's not real. He's just a cartoon character, so to speak.

I like the new outfit. I looks good.

If you doubt of the importance of fictional characters in our culture, you have a problem. Also, there are many fictional characters with more relevance in culture than some historical figures. The argument of "is just a videogame" is stupid and the persons that use it are stupid. They thread videogames as something that is not important, but videogames ARE important. Also beyond the fictiional character... The person-s who created that character, the people that experienced the character... Is just inevitable to feel emphaty for a character when you share many days of your live with it.

Yeah we have the Twilight Princess models and Midna as an assist trophy but we also have a Skyward Sword stage in the form of Skyloft, we have the Skyward Sword heart container design, we have the beetle and the wind item both from Skyward Sword and of course we have this very color for Link, meanwhile in Brawl besides the character models all we really have is the Bridge of Elden from Twilight Princess and the heart container design from the same game and unless there's something else I'm not remembering that's really it.

"Besides the character models" Since there is nothing more important than playable characters in Smash, i think that TP wins.

Actually, two items. The Beetle and Gust Bellows. Four if you count the Fairy Bottle and Heart Container which has the Skyward Sword design.

Also, there's something else that could potential represent Skyward Sword...

Nah. Zelda and Link using TP design says a lot about Skyward representation in Smash, dont expect any newcomer of SS.

 

[Kenith]

Nah. Zelda and Link using TP design says a lot about Skyward representation in Smash, dont expect any newcomer of SS.

Well, I guess we can't have Toon Link either...

 

[DrizzyDrew]

Link has the most potential to have some awesome costumes..go all out team sakuari

 

[Raetah]

Well, I guess we can't have Toon Link either...

Because Toon Link is related to the preference of TP over SS in playable characters...

 

[Kenith]

Because Toon Link is related to the preference of TP over SS in playable characters...

No, he isn't. And that's exactly the point I was making. Sheik and Toon Link aren't in Skyward Sword or Twilight Princess.

 

[Raetah]

No, he isn't. And that's exactly the point I was making. Sheik and Toon Link aren't in Skyward Sword or Twilight Princess.

Look, Melee featured designs from OoT, in Brawl they were replaced by TP designs, in WiiU-3DS the most logical step is to replace the designs of Zelda, Link and Ganondorf with SS designs, but they didnt. The difference between Sheik and Link, Zelda and Ganondorf is that she does not have SS counterpart, except for perhaps Impa if you want to consider that (wich basically would mean that Sakurai not only prefers TP over SS, but also OoT over SS).
About Toon Link, It is clear that Sakurai likes WW as much as TP.
SS representation is basically minor representation: stage and items.

 

[Sahfarry]

Its BASED on his SS regular clothes. They are NOT his regular clothes.

 

[Raetah]

Its BASED on his SS regular clothes. They are NOT his regular clothes.

Which is lazy and horrible. 2nd option would be much better.

 

[TheFadedWarrior]

I think this looks great. Kind of like Fierce Deity Link. And I know what costume I want for Sonic...

What game is that from?

 

[Kenith]

Look, Melee featured designs from OoT, in Brawl they were replaced by TP designs, in WiiU-3DS the most logical step is to replace the designs of Zelda, Link and Ganondorf with SS designs, but they didnt. The difference between Sheik and Link, Zelda and Ganondorf is that she does not have SS counterpart, except for perhaps Impa if you want to consider that (wich basically would mean that Sakurai not only prefers TP over SS, but also OoT over SS).
About Toon Link, It is clear that Sakurai likes WW as much as TP.
SS representation is basically minor representation: stage and items.

You are making a lot of assumptions. There's nothing indicating Sakurai likes Twilight Princess more than Skyward Sword. Those character designs were chosen because they're the most recognizable and most popular. The only Zelda game to get representation outside of characters is Skyward Sword. (Also, Spirit Tracks and OoT 3D on 3ds, which, notably, neither of them are Twilight Princess)

 

[Raetah]

You are making a lot of assumptions. There's nothing indicating Sakurai likes Twilight Princess more than Skyward Sword. Those character designs were chosen because they're the most recognizable and most popular. The only Zelda game to get representation outside of characters is Skyward Sword. (Also, Spirit Tracks and OoT 3D on 3ds, which, notably, neither of them are Twilight Princess)

TP the most recognizable and popular? What? Im afraid that OoT is way more recognizable and popular.

 

[Kenith]

TP the most recognizable and popular? What? Im afraid that OoT is way more recognizable and popular.

Right, and Twilight Princess's character designs are just detailed versions of Ocarina of Time's.

 

[BladeOFLucas]

Looks fine to me, don't think it is worth the complaints. Couldn't Link just have kept his shirt from the beginning of SS and put it over his chainmail, and then knit a cap that is the same base color? It's possible, and it isn't a heinous crime, so stop complaining. There would probably be some people who would find some reason to be irritated even if he redid the model and removed the cap.

 

[Ragna22]

If you doubt of the importance of fictional characters in our culture, you have a problem. Also, there are many fictional characters with more relevance in culture than some historical figures. The argument of "is just a videogame" is stupid and the persons that use it are stupid. They thread videogames as something that is not important, but videogames ARE important. Also beyond the fictiional character... The person-s who created that character, the people that experienced the character... Is just inevitable to feel emphaty for a character when you share many days of your live with it.
"Besides the character models" Since there is nothing more important than playable characters in Smash, i think that TP wins.
Nah. Zelda and Link using TP design says a lot about Skyward representation in Smash, dont expect any newcomer of SS.

Alright so I'm curious, why do YOU think Sakurai picked a color based off of the Skyward Sword starter outfit over the Twilight Princess?

 

[Brickbuild101]

He had to keep the hat so that you hurtbox maniacs wouldn't flip out. :T

 

[Rocket Raccoon]

What game is that from?

Lost World DLC.

I envy that.

 

[itsameluigi1290]

What game is that from?

Like Vegito said, Sonic Lost World DLC. It was pretty short, and the second half was a recolor of an already existing stage, but still fun nonetheless.

 

[Raetah]

Right, and Twilight Princess's character designs are just detailed versions of Ocarina of Time's.

Nope, they are not.

TP design and SS design are similar, while OoT is not (actually, all the Link designs are similar for an obvious reason, but you can do a classification of designs in groups and OoT and TP link would not be in the same group).

Alright so I'm curious, why do YOU think Sakurai picked a color based off of the Skyward Sword starter outfit over the Twilight Princess?

Skyward Sword is the most recent TLoZ game in a homeconsole, they need to add content about it, they have to add content about it. In fact replacing TP designs with SS design was the most logical solution, but Sakurai-Smash 4 developers seem to prefer the TP designs. Skyward Sword starter outfit is another way to representate SS, but a bad one representation. SS Link was suposed to be the main star of SSB4 in TLoZ playable characters, instead of that we have a recolor of TP Link based in SS link as alternative costume.
A decission that i disaprove.

 

[Kenith]

Nope, they are not.

TP design and SS design are similar, while OoT is not (actually, all the Link designs are similar for an obvious reason, but you can do a classification of designs in groups and OoT and TP link would not be in the same group)

Lol, they look exactly the same except for the hairstyle and more vibrant colors.

This is pointless.

 

[itsameluigi1290]

Why so much complaining? For all we know, this might not even be an alternate costume. It seems to be just a palette swap to me, in reference of Skyward Sword. I don't think it's lazy at all, since this Link isn't really supposed to be just SS Link, and having a Link that looks more like TP Link in an SS outfit may seem a little strange.

 

[RedFly]

Smash WiiU & 3DS director Masahiro Sakurai says "Pic of the day. Here's Link in an outfit based on his ordinary clothes in Skyward Sword! The art style looks a little different, but the actual clothing model is still his usual tunic."

Epic, I was hoping Sakurai would start showing Palette Swaps for Pic of the Day, Since there are like 100 of them.

 

[Sqa$]

While this is less "Alt Costume"-y, I really really love it. I'm glad things like this are being thrown into the game instead of recolors for every character. I mean, this one is basically a recolor, but for Link, it's more than a recolor. While I miss the idea of Link's model having been the SS Link for his basic models, I'm glad they at least brought this in for him. Alternate costumes make me really happy.

Lol, they look exactly the same except for the hairstyle and more vibrant colors.

This is pointless.

Actually, the face shape is different, the eyes are different shapes, the ears are different, the chain mail was added for TP, the boot style is different, and the glove style is different. It's a decently different model if you pay attention to the little details about it. They couldn't make it drastically different because otherwise it wouldn't be Link anymore (save the completely different art style of WW).

 

[Kenith]

Actually, the face shape is different, the eyes are different shapes, the ears are different, the chain mail was added for TP, the boot style is different, and the glove style is different. It's a decently different model if you pay attention to the little details about it. They couldn't make it drastically different because otherwise it wouldn't be Link anymore (save the completely different art style of WW).

I mean conceptually, they look exactly the same. I'm not inattentive to small details. From a design standpoint, Twilight Princess is basically a heavily revised version of Ocarina of Time; no Link before that game had the effeminate eyes, and the brown gloves, or the white tights or blonde hair.

 

[Pega-pony Princess]

I've loved all of Link's designs so far, and his one in SSB4 is no exception. This alternate costume looks great. Its awesome to see another nod towards SS.

Ghirahim please appear and fill my heart with rainbows.

 

[Z1GMA]

I was hoping Sakurai would say something along the lines of:
Link is currently one of the weaker characters in the game, so we've been working on ways to make him stronger. Here's the bow for example, blah blah blah...

Still love the costume, though.

 

[Chaos Archangel]

People are freaking out but.. how do you know this isn't just an alternate color for link rather than an alternate outfit?

 

[Zebkeet]

I think it looks great.

 

[Kink-Link5]

I mean conceptually, they look exactly the same. I'm not inattentive to small details. From a design standpoint, Twilight Princess is basically a heavily revised version of Ocarina of Time; no Link before that game had the effeminate eyes, and the brown gloves, or the white tights or blonde hair.

Conceptually, all Links after aLttP look exactly the same. Green tunic, blonde hair swept to one side with dropping sideburns, brown belt, brown boots, heater-style shield, white tights. OoT Link looks just as much or more like SS Link than he does TP Link.

 

[Raetah]

I mean conceptually, they look exactly the same. I'm not inattentive to small details. From a design standpoint, Twilight Princess is basically a heavily revised version of Ocarina of Time; no Link before that game had the effeminate eyes, and the brown gloves, or the white tights or blonde hair.

SqaS was faster than me pointing the differences, anyway. They are far from being just small details. The boots are not the same, the gauntlets are not the same, the hair is not the same, the robe is not the same, TP includes a coat of mail while OoT not. Dude, by changing the boots of the character you basically change around of the 20% of the character.
Look at this image:

Note that one of the Four Sword titles and A link between worlds is not present in the image.
Link will always be Link, but even there you can notice differences between all the different designs of Link and here is my classification:

1st Link = The Legend of Zelda - The Adventure of Link
2nd Link = A Link to the Past - Link's awakening - Oracle of Ages - Oracle of Seasons - A Link Between Worlds
3rd Link = Ocarina of Time - Majora's Mask
4th Link = Four Swords - Wind Waker - Four Swords Adventure - Minish Cap - Phantom Hourglass - Spirit Tracks

Those are the type of Links that i know they are separated. However i dont know if there are 5 or 6 links:

5th Link: Twilight Princess - Skyward Sword (perhaps 6th Link rather than a variation of 5th, but those are EXTREMELY simmilar).

 

[smashingDoug]

looks nice but i hope it a alternate color