Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[KingBroly]

vergeben, the master of backpedalling. He's trying to claim that Incineroar is DLC now? NO. He originally said he would be part of the base roster. This guy flipflops so much he could be a politician. He clearly doesn't know everything about the roster.
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that's not vergeben

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

It's obvious who the missing character is:

"Get outta my swamp!"

So um... this apparent Spirits song sounds really good: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mfl1ChcicVU

Source: http://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/437099005

People in the youtube comments are thinking it's real...

 

[The DanMan051]

vergeben, the master of backpedalling. He's trying to claim that Incineroar is DLC now? NO. He originally said he would be part of the base roster. This guy flipflops so much he could be a politician. He clearly doesn't know everything about the roster.
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I don't believe Vergeben even uses twitter; definitely never brought it up in the past at all. It always amuses me how desperate people are to take a dump on him.

Also, that Spirits song sounds... generic. Like somebody might've cobbled it together in half an hour with garageband or something. I dunno, just doesn't feel right.

 

[alemerltoucanet]

Maybe the real Grinch leak was the friends we made along the way (and will later destroy in Smash).

Maybe, you never know lol.

I don't have a Switch yet, but I'm hoping for one soon!

 

[Flyboy]

I want Arle Nadja playable... and I also want Dual Audio so I have the chance to scream "Bayoen!" at people over and over.

Ei! Fire! Ice Storm! Diacute! Brain Dumbed! Bayoen! Bayoen! Bayoen! Bayoen! Bayoen! Bayoen!

Ringo echo fighter please.

Sine! Cosine! Tangent! Algorithm! Algorithm! Algorithm! Algorithm!

 

[Dyllybirdy]

Also, I wasn't sure if people would remember who I was since I changed my pfp and sig

How could I ever forget you?

 

[SAMation]

I REALLY hope there’s no last minute crazy leak (one that’s undeniably real). I just want to hear it from Sakurai himself, not some dork who wants a few hours of fame.

 

[BrashCandicoot]

vergeben, the master of backpedalling. He's trying to claim that Incineroar is DLC now? NO. He originally said he would be part of the base roster. This guy flipflops so much he could be a politician. He clearly doesn't know everything about the roster.
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That's a fake twitter account, Vergeben stated that he doesn't use twitter.

 

[Luigi The President]

vergeben, the master of backpedalling. He's trying to claim that Incineroar is DLC now, at this point, after the Grinch leak, when he didn't before? NO. He originally said he would be part of the base roster. This guy flipflops so much he could be a politician. He clearly doesn't know everything about the roster.
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Shoutout to SuperSceptile for ****talking Verge without even realizing HE DOESN'T HAVE A TWITTER

 

[Noipoi]

It may be the end for some people, but I'm in it for the long haul

You think i'm going anywhere? You guys are stuck with me until who knows when!

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

If it's pokemon, then it hurts Incicneroar's likliness...

Anyways, I think it's Zelda

The music theory died already

We got two fire emblem songs from the blog

 

[lightdrago]

vergeben, the master of backpedalling. He's trying to claim that Incineroar is DLC now? NO. He originally said he would be part of the base roster. This guy flipflops so much he could be a politician. He clearly doesn't know everything about the roster.
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...Vergeben has stated that he only uses GameFAQs and Reddit to leak. Any other account is a fake unless he acknowledges it himself, which he has not.

C’mon dude...

 

[Untouch]

vergeben, the master of backpedalling. He's trying to claim that Incineroar is DLC now, at this point, after the Grinch leak, when he didn't before? NO. He originally said he would be part of the base roster. This guy flipflops so much he could be a politician. He clearly doesn't know everything about the roster.
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That's not him, he doesn't use Twitter.

 

[JacobLeBeauOFFICIAL]

Even if the grinch leak is real or fake, we can all agree on one thing: It's guaranteed to reveal more than 2 characters. So either way the box theory is ****ed. I hope the characters are worthwhile enough for the reveal though...

 

[Tree Gelbman]

Man, this really will be the last direct. I remember when I first joined and now i'm at the end. It's been quite a ride.

DLC. S'all I'm saying.

 

[SoccerStar9001]

Chadnondorf post is based on the image. Everything he said about cuts and everything is bull****. What that means is that he based the list on what he saw on the image and didn't see Skull Kid

I am not sure I follow. Are you saying the two eyes next to Mach Rider IS Skull kid? If you are, what does MTP have to do with anything?

 

[mjmannella]

Please delete this comment.

Vergeben doesn't use Twitter

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

The music theory died already

We got two fire emblem songs from the blog

Yes, I know that...
But if it was a Pokemon track, they might as well save it for next week...

 

[Fenriraga]

See, I was about to let it go until you put quotation marks around "echo chamber". And now I feel you're taking an objective observation personally. If I change the term will it not come off as harsh? Because I'm really not trying to come off as harsh but I feel like I'm still not being understood.

Here's an example. Geno is popular within this community-- and Mario's, sure, if you want to, though that's a stretch considering the worldwide appeal of the franchise to casual audiences who have no idea what the **** a Geno is-- in the same way, say, Rebecca Chambers is in Resident Evil. Many who know and love Resident Evil know who she is from the minor role she played in the original and her starring role in the prequel. When she was added to Mercenaries Reunion in RE5, her fans were ecstatic. This is all great, and she's popular. Woohoo.

If I were to then say that Rebecca Chambers is the most popular Capcom character, though, I'd be so wrong. She's not even the face of her own franchise, nor is she a recurring character outside of her small role. Far, far, far more people can name Jill Valentine or Leon S. Kennedy than they can Rebecca Chambers. Even more people can name Ryu. Or Mega Man. Doesn't diminish her fans (me), but saying that she's the most popular, or even one of the most popular, characters is a measurable falsehood. It's not meant to be negative at all, and this observation doesn't diminish her or Geno's "deserving" of a roster spot in their respective games. I hope he gets in. But "most popular?" Not by any measure outside of the Smash community during hype cycles. And comparing his popularity to the likes of Final Fantasy is like a squirrel picking a fight with a family of bears.

That's not a bad thing at all! Everyone loves an underdog. And liking a lesser-known character makes it all the more personal for you. I know, because my Smash wish was Daisy. And I wanted Daisy so badly-- but I never kid myself into thinking she was more popular than Pokemon. Or even Peach. Or... Toad. I hope Geno fans get the same moment I did when I saw Daisy come onscreen. Because it feels amazing.

But c'mon. Most popular? C'mon.

I never said most popular, though? Don't know where you're getting that from. In fact, I already acknowledged he's nowhere near the tier of other third parties in Smash already.

And I seriously meant nothing putting quotations around echo chamber other than "If that's what you want to call it".

 

[Luigi The President]

Even if the grinch leak is real or fake, we can all agree on one thing: It's guaranteed to reveal more than 2 characters. So either way the box theory is ****ed. I hope the characters are worthwhile enough for the reveal though...

As much as I expect it to, no I can't agree with you on that.

Sakurai is simply unpredictable. Do I think we're gonna get more than 2 characters? Yea. Can I 100% agree, guaranteed? No.

 

[HenryZusa]

Box literally can't get debunked unless we get someone other than Kencineroar/Geno

It's not a leak like everything else its just a theory based on box art

As for Grinch, it depends on who/what you trust. Insiders unanimously think its bogus, but you could think the images are proof enough

By box I didn't mean the theory (I've never believed in that theory, doesn't make sense for me)
I meant the photo that was posted like 3 hours ago in 4chan, of the case of the game along with the cart and a bag with the logo of the game. Sorry if it was misunderstood.

 

[Dukeofdeath5]

vergeben, the master of backpedalling. He's trying to claim that Incineroar is DLC now, at this point, after the Grinch leak, when he didn't before? NO. He originally said he would be part of the base roster. This guy flipflops so much he could be a politician. He clearly doesn't know everything about the roster.
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This guy NEVER said he knew everything about the roster, him missing a few reveals already should have been proof of that by now.

Other than that, I don't even remember him saying Icineroar was def base, he just confirmed he was in. I'd need a source claiming he was base. I find it interesting though, as most all insiders are now saying Incineroar might be DLC

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Strange, no song update yet?

 

[SuperSceptile15]

This guy, NEVER said he knew everything about the roster, him missing a few reveals already should have been proof of that by now.

Other than that, I don't even remember him saying Icineroar was def base, he just confirmed he was in. I'd need a source claiming he was base. I find it interesting though, as most all insiders are now saying Incineroar might be DLC

Vergeben doesn't use Twitter

...Vergeben has stated that he only uses GameFAQs and Reddit to leak. Any other account is a fake unless he acknowledges it himself, which he has not.

C’mon dude...

Shoutout to SuperSceptile for ****talking Verge without even realizing HE DOESN'T HAVE A TWITTER

That's a fake twitter account, Vergeben stated that he doesn't use twitter.

I'm so sorry guys. I didn't realize he didn't have a Twitter account. My bad. I still don't trust him, though.

 

[zeldasmash]

So um... this apparent Spirits song sounds really good: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mfl1ChcicVU

Source: http://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/437099005

Sounds like the Smash + Avengers crossover we've all been waiting for. XD

 

[Paperchampion23]

Strange, no song update yet?

Happened before August's smash direct. It will happen on Thursday with the first newcomer.

 

[larlargaming]

So um... this apparent Spirits song sounds really good: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mfl1ChcicVU

Source: http://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/437099005

disregard this, its fake

 

[Luigi The President]

I'm so sorry guys. I didn't realize he didn't have a Twitter account. My bad.

It's all good, but my problem comes where you state how untrustworthy Verge is...but you go on to post a fake twitter, showing you haven't entirely done your research.

That's all. All's good, just keep this in mind.

 

[Dukeofdeath5]

Strange, no song update yet?

Clearly this means we're getting Simo- now wait a minute

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Strange, no song update yet?

Probably saving it for Thursday...

disregard this, its fake

How so, might I ask?

 

[monadoboy]

Why on earth are people conflating Ridley and lack of relevancy?

The dragon's been in damn near all of the Metroids, to the point where he was retconned into one. Dude's a driving force of the series.

Metroid was dead until Samus Return tho, which came 2 years after the project plan thing. The only games before that were Other M and Federation Force.

Edit: Is the website acting up? It just swapped a quote for another unrelated post.

 

[Tako Tuesday]

That Spirits Song is very super hero movie to the point I'm expecting the damn Avengers to walk around a corner after they've all come back to live to kick Thanos *** in Avengers 4 to it.

I'M SORRY I HAD TOO

 

[Aaron1997]

The song is fake

 

[JacobLeBeauOFFICIAL]

As much as I expect it to, no I can't agree with you on that.

Sakurai is simply unpredictable. Do I think we're gonna get more than 2 characters? Yea. Can I 100% agree, guaranteed? No.

Dude, I'm really thinking you're in denial at this point, stop being a damn downer and enjoy yourself.

 

[staindgrey]

I never said most popular, though? Don't know where you're getting that from. In fact, I already acknowledged he's nowhere near the tier of other third parties in Smash already.

And I seriously meant nothing putting quotations around echo chamber other than "If that's what you want to call it".

Again, this all started from me refuting another poster who said he was Square's most popular character, then you came in.

But it's good. We're good. Go Team Geno.

 

[larlargaming]

The song is fake

there, i was about to post that

 

[Icedragonadam]

No music today, but it's Rosalina & Luma instead.

 

[JustCallMeJon]

Immediate fake

The song came from this

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

No music today, but it's Rosalina & Luma instead.

Huh... Something's definitely up

 

[alemerltoucanet]

DLC. S'all I'm saying.

I'll be more than happy to be pulled back in by DLC speculation. XD