Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Deleted member]

Snake and Ridley?

You guys, like, just forget Ocelot was a thing, huh? Also, Ridley is canonically a disaster gay.

 

[Tree Gelbman]

Heh. I love these classic modes that end with the character you play getting an ally that is close them.

Having Mario help me defeat Marx as Rosalina was <3.

 

[WaxPython]

You guys, like, just forget Ocelot was a thing, huh? Also, Ridley is canonically a disaster gay.

Nah Snake and Meryl was a thing. And i have no idea what a disaster gay is

 

[Deleted member]

So, appareintly, Casey Lee Williams, the main singer for the show RWBY, cover Ultimate's theme like, 2 days ago:

 

[Deleted member]

Lol that's the biggest problem with the game? Talk about 1st world problems.

As a side note is Captain Falcon's clasisc mode glitched? I'm one shotting everyone on the highest intensity?

I know nothing about Persona but if a major part of the game is romancing people then it would be cool for people to have as much romance options open as possible/be able to romance characters that they actually like rather then characters they don't care about but are doing for stats or w/e you get in P5

 

[PlugMeister]

Btw do we have any sales figures yet?

Well, it's Amazon's most pre-ordered game of 2018, so there's that.

 

[WaxPython]

I know nothing about Persona but if a major part of the game is romancing people then it would be cool for people to have as much romance options open as possible/be able to romance characters that they actually like rather then characters they don't care about but are doing for stats or w/e you get in P5

Romance is deffs not a major part of the game, at most a sidequest. The friendship bonds are the bread and butter of the series

 

[Deleted member]

Romance is deffs not a major part of the game, at most a sidequest. The friendship bonds are the bread and butter of the series

Huh, alright. Well if you could do it in the other games then it's still strange that they took it out for some reason, but I guess it's not TOO big of a deal. Still kinda dumb tho, since I'm assuming the romancing leads to interesting character interactions that would be nice to see with other characters, or if someone really likes a guy it would be cool to let Joker romance them. I mean from what I hear P5 is really amazing so it's kinda hard to find a "biggest" problem with it.

 

[WaxPython]

Falco's spike and lasers are melee level good. Glad i can main him again.

Really liking Richter, Ike, Marth, Sonic, Pikachu, Chrom, Lucina so far too.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Diddy Kong is the best character in the game, don't debate me on this one. He's buffed in literally everything. Am maining a demi-God, and you should be aware. That's all.

 

[Lyndis_]

Isabelle is canonically bi

Do you have a source for this? I've never heard of this and I'm very interested to know if this is true

 

[osby]

Huh, alright. Well if you could do it in the other games then it's still strange that they took it out for some reason, but I guess it's not TOO big of a deal. Still kinda dumb tho, since I'm assuming the romancing leads to interesting character interactions that would be nice to see with other characters, or if someone really likes a guy it would be cool to let Joker romance them. I mean from what I hear P5 is really amazing so it's kinda hard to find a "biggest" problem with it.

As a person who played every mainline Persona game: Romance routes almost never adds anything to the relationships and mostly pretty badly written. I prefer friend-zoning everyone.

 

[WaxPython]

Falco is so broken, short hop > D Air > Up Smash > Back air is legit so much damage

 

[PlugMeister]

So are there any noticeable graphical differences between playing in docked and handheld mode?

 

[ChronoKatie]

So pleasantly surprised by how good WoL is!!! It's super clever because it forces players to play in ways that are completely unconventional to Smash, and for a single-player I am A-okay with that. If Sakurai ever wanted a mode that could ultimately showcase what he envisions Smash as, this is it. Have to genuinely think strategically and it is super gratifying to get through challenges because of it. You are doing stuff in it you would never otherwise be doing in any match with friends and I adore it. Cool little puzzles and nods to different franchises too. It's adorable. Only disappointment is that it could have used more bosses and platforming segments and it's a little too easy. Only about 10 spirits gave me trouble and only about 4 gave me significant trouble but it's awesome because a good spirit team will literally turn it from near-impossible to entirely doable. Good stuff!

 

[OpticalBlast]

Do you have a source for this? I've never heard of this and I'm very interested to know if this is true

In AC:NL, she has a crush on you regardless of your gender.

 

[Serebii]

Looking on the Serebii pokeball page, some Pokemon won't appear on certain stages. Pretty sure this is the first time in the series this has happened.

Alolan Exeggutor not showing up on enclosed low-ceiling stages makes sense I guess, and so does Palkia not appearing on Spear Pillar. (although Robin's final smash Chrom still shows up when fighter Chrom is on the field)

Golden Plains disallows a LOT of Pokemon for some reason. How would they cause problems with the gold power-up mechanic?

And some like Alolan Raichu aren't allowed on Spirit Train. How does the scrolling aspect cause problems?

Serebii if you aren't too busy, could you give your thoughts on this about why some might not appear?

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Some appear to be to stop being broken, like Exeggutor can't appear on stages with an overhead platform, Marshadow when there's moving components, but others I can't explain. Like this one:

https://www.serebii.net/smashbrosultimate/stages/yoshi'sisland.shtml

I have no idea why Dedenne won't appear

 

[WaxPython]

So are there any noticeable graphical differences between playing in docked and handheld mode?

Just resolution and colours seem more subdued less vibrant

 

[Ultinarok]

TBH no I disagree.
No matter how you put it, DQ still sells 80% in Japan from what I understand.

20% being other places just isn't enough to justify a Smash rep.

(I know I said I was gone but I can't help debating)

Mother 3 sold 100% in Japan, as did the original FE games that starred Marth and Roy. And all of them sold much worse in said country than DQ does. Entirely invalidated argument.

 

[Deleted member]

I hope we get this song on Joker's Stage

 

[Diddy Kong]

So are there any noticeable graphical differences between playing in docked and handheld mode?

Dunno I only play handheld and it's amazing.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

I hope we get this song on Joker's Stage

I (and probably a lot of other people) am still hoping for Last Surprise

Spoiler: Posting it here, cause it's just so good

 

[N3ON]

Mother 3 sold 100% in Japan, as did the original FE games that starred Marth and Roy. And all of them sold much worse in said country than DQ does. Entirely invalidated argument.

Yeah but the latter weren't going to show up in the localized version and the former wouldn't have been included if Sakurai had known Mother 3 wasn't planning to leave Japan. I don't think DQ's lopsided prominence would be cause for omission (though who knows), but those two aren't comparable examples.

 

[Deleted member]

I (and probably a lot of other people) am still hoping for Last Surprise

Spoiler: Posting it here, cause it's just so good

I'm pretty sure that's a guarantee since it's the most popular song from Joker's game
My pick isn't quite as likely
I also remixed a different Persona 5 song

 

[Squirtle/Mario guy]

I really can't consider Bayonetta and Joker SEGA "reps" tbh. Platinum and Atlus are the responsibles for those games, SEGA just own them. It'd be like calling MUA3 a Disney game which, while technically correct, sounds dumb as ****

Crash is a character that makes the perfect sense because it's the ultimate middle fimger to Sony. I don't really care for the character but he makes all the sense if Nintendo wants to simply show off how big Smash truly is.
But, like, promotional characters would be characters with exclusive Nintendo releases(which Joker could be if the Switch port does happen)

Don't get how he gives the middle finger to SONY but I think Snake, Cloud and Joker already did that



Also anyone found the stock icons for ze Koopalings ?

 

[Deleted member]

I don't know if its just with me, but some of these 'Challenger Approaching' battles are ridiculous. Its like the AI ranges anywhere from suicidal to level 50 amiibo. When sonic appeared, he was zipping around and then just ran straight off the stage. I didn't knock him out; he just straight ran off the stage! And then when Chrom he appeared, he juggled the crap out of me. I only beat him because I got a lucky couple of strong hits in with K. Rool (more like K. Rule!).

 

[Ultinarok]

Yeah but the latter weren't going to show up in the localized version and the former wouldn't have been included if Sakurai had known Mother 3 wasn't planning to leave Japan. I don't think DQ's lopsided prominence would be cause for omission (though who knows), but those two aren't comparable examples.

But they still made Smash regardless. The idea is that being prominent among only the home demographic makes you undeserving of inclusion in Smash. Marth and Roy got in, then got ported because they didn't want to omit content. Lucas got in despite Mother 3 and Mother as a whole being niche games and Ness already being there, and that game is literally Japan only.

The point is, there's precedent for a character that is mostly present in Japan to get in. And his own argument is flawed because he supports Geno, a character literally absent from Europe for most of his life. Europe, a continent with a population greater than Japan and the U.S combined, did not get Geno at all. And nevermind that Dragon Quest is a way bigger deal than Geno/SMRPG no matter how you swing it. He's just being biased because he hopes the 2nd SE rep is Geno and not something else.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

As a person who played every mainline Persona game: Romance routes almost never adds anything to the relationships and mostly pretty badly written. I prefer friend-zoning everyone.

Yeah, thr romance is just there to be there. Tbh its the Social links that matter the most

 

[Tree Gelbman]

Honestly if I wasn't already anti unlocks in 2018. This game's unlock system sure as hell did it.

Mostly random encounters you can't decipher a true pattern from. The bonkers AI, the sheer number of unlocks.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Ayy I had a thought, If Luminary gets in smash we can finally hear him talk and see his he has thr same accent as his paps and Rab

 

[banana29]

I hope we get Shadow and a Custom Robo.

Chances of Shadow however are like >1%

Custom Robo maybe like 10%

Ayy I had a thought, If Luminary gets in smash we can finally hear him talk and see his he has thr same accent as his paps and Rab

It wouldn’t be canon though lol

 

[FalcoXP]

Howdy guys.

spend entired weekend playing Ultimate.

What a game, man. The waiting and money was worth.

But at the beginning I felt the game off, maybe a was acustomed to Smash 4 lol.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

It wouldn’t be canon though lol

aww but
....

 

[WaxPython]

I don't know if its just with me, but some of these 'Challenger Approaching' battles are ridiculous. Its like the AI ranges anywhere from suicidal to level 50 amiibo. When sonic appeared, he was zipping around and then just ran straight off the stage. I didn't knock him out; he just straight ran off the stage! And then when Chrom he appeared, he juggled the crap out of me. I only beat him because I got a lucky couple of strong hits in with K. Rool (more like K. Rule!).

Never a problem for me. I only lost one and thst was because i was careless against Ganondorf. They're meant to be a bit off a challenge but still easy enough for children to do

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Never a problem for me. I only lost one and thst was because i was careless against Ganondorf. They're meant to be a bit off a challenge but still easy enough for children to do

Snake is literaly beating my ass six ways to sunday. Im finna waitin' till he and everyone else shows up in Wol/

Spoiler

WoD

because those fights are difficult as all hell. No ****ing child can beat those, They are crazy

 

[Deleted member]

Don't get how he gives the middle finger to SONY but I think Snake, Cloud and Joker already did that



Also anyone found the stock icons for ze Koopalings ?

You guys need to act as if 3rd Parties are the symbol of Sony. Sony has actual 1st Party characters they own(or owned) that are even more well-known than those 3Ps people act are "PS Icons".

Crash was their first mascot and that's the one who matters the most outside of their current mascot Kratos. If Nintendo actually got THE Sony mascot, it would prove Smash as the truly Ultimate crossover. It would prove Nintendo could get Sony's character into their game but Sony themselves couldn't.

 

[FalcoXP]

Speaking of "Sony reps" seeing Joker confirms Crash in my book.

CTR is coming for Switch (this time is not ps4 temporary exclusive). So who knows.

 

[Deleted member]

I'm like 99% sure the Square rep is going to be Sora.
I'm also fairly confident that Crash, Agumon, and Banjo are coming.

 

[PlugMeister]

Snake is literaly beating my *** six ways to sunday. Im finna waitin' till he and everyone else shows up in Wol/WoD because those fights are difficult as all hell. No ****ing child can beat those, They are crazy

Funny you say that because when I fought him he went down like a punk. Just kept letting me juggle him with up-smashes until he went sky-high.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Funny you say that because when I fought him he went down like a punk. Just kept letting me juggle him with up-smashes until he went sky-high.

I guess my Snake is the more succesful older brother to your Snake because this one aint playin around