Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[KingBroly]

Considering that Greninja was implemented into Smash 3DS / Wii U before it actually developed an identity in the Pokemon anime's Kalos saga, pretty much anything could happen at this point.

Depends on how far realized a character was when Smash development started. This is what makes Spring Man, and more so Rex & Pyra, a really hard in, so to speak. I think people are over-playing the Rex/Pyra hand by a wide margin. If Spring Man were to get in, he'd likely be the last character in the game, chronologically speaking. And there's definitely no way a Pokemon from a new generation (if that comes out this year) makes it into the game.

 

[Inawordyes]

If you guys had to pick Pokémon you love out of all 800 to add in smash which would you add?

I’d pick Golurk, a big ghost/ground type Pokémon would be unlike any other one in the game so far.
I’d also love Hawlucha, a flying/fighting type wrestler bird is almost too perfect for smash.

Hawlucha, then Infernape, EDIT: then Chandelure, then Genesect

 

[Cosmic77]

Considering that Greninja was implemented into Smash 3DS / Wii U before it actually developed an identity in the Pokemon anime's Kalos saga, pretty much anything could happen at this point.

True, but when choosing the roster, Sakurai asked GameFreak for Gen VII Pokemon that they thought would be popular among fans. Even if it hadn't proven itself yet, Greninja was still chosen in the hopes that would eventually be popular.

Actually, Smash Bros. is probably what led to it having a huge role in the anime. I doubt the writers for the anime would've given Ash any other starter besides a Froakie if they knew Greninja was going to be in Smash.

I mean not to **** on your argument or anything, but isn't technically Pikachu already just that? The go-to Pokemon that developers can rely on? He's essentially the main character being the mascot.

He's similar to other mascots of a franchise like Ryu or Tracer. Sure others in the franchise are popular, but if you're going to rep their game, you sort of go to them.

That knocks out one character, yes, but which Pokemon do you choose for the rest of character slots? The iconic mascot might be a safe inclusion, but that's just one of the many Pokemon the development team for Smash, Pokken, and any other game with a roster would have to decide on.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

Rowlet would definitely surprise many people if he were to be playable.

 

[Pacack]

Rowlet would definitely surprise many people if he were to be playable.

And yet I doubt many would be upset.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

Speaking of Pokemon, an official Nintendo Magazine confirmed Pokemon Switch will be a brand new generation but also implied it could come later than 2018.

I'm thinking DLC.

 

[DragonSniperNintendo]

Smash 5 Predictions #1:

1. Mario Odyssey and Zelda Breath of the Wild will certainly get stages. New Donk City is likely the Mario one. And the Zelda one will be either the Great Plateau, one of the divine beast, or a stage that flies across the whole map.

2. Fire Emblem will have 1-2 other Assist trophies to join Lyn this time around. I certainly think Echoes has a strong chance for an AT regardless if it gets a character or not (and would strongly hope that would be Grey). They might consider a classic FE character for that AT spot as well. On the topic of ATs I would say at least one from Smash 4 stands a chance of becoming playable. The top choices being Ashley, Takamaru, Isabelle, and Dillon.

3. Retro characters are hard to predict, they are practically a crapshoot. While the main Nintendo characters and third parties can be somewhat predicted, retro characters are entirely up to whatever Sakurai decides.

4. Fire Emblem will get at least one newcomer and high chances are it is someone from the new Fire Emblem on Switch. The only other competitors to that spot, or spots if there are two, would be Alm or Celica.

5. Link will get a few alt costumes from different armor in Breath of the Wild, such as the Rito clothes and the Gerudo clothes. Link will also probably get the Shulk treatment from Smash 4 and have a costume in his underwear.

6. Rex from Xenoblade is practically guaranteed for this game.

7. We will get more alt characters in Smash 5. More of those different characters that will model swap in the alts, like Olimar with Alph or the different avatar genders from Smash 4. Who those are would be up to whoever works with the moveset.

8. Zelda will get a newcomer and with Link going Breath of the Wild I think it could be one of the champions.

9. Given the games that have been on Nintendo lately and ones yet to come to Switch I would think the third party characters that have the strongest chances for Smash 5 are Bomberman, Shantae, Crash, Shovel Knight, Travis Touchdown, Rayman, or someone from Dragon Quest.

10. Someone from ARMS is practically guaranteed for the game. While one of the more interesting characters would be better it is likely either Spring Man or Ribbon Girl. I say they pull a Alph/Olimar situation and make them the same slot with a balanced moveset of the two.

11. I don't think a lot of the characters that people seem to think will be "for sure cut" are going anywhere. A lot of them are usually too original to take out, or still very much used by Nintendo. There will still be at least a few cuts but some people take it too personal and cut for no good reason.

12. A lot of Final Smashes will receive a change (especially people that have useless ones like Peach) and similar to Ryu, more characters will have 2 Final Smashes.

 

[Staarih]

Rowlet would definitely surprise many people if he were to be playable.

Some ”would have seen it coming”, surely.
Or that’s what they’d say

But I would be a bit surprised honestly.

Speaking of Pokemon, an official Nintendo Magazine confirmed Pokemon Switch will be a brand new generation but also implied it could come later than 2018.

I'm thinking DLC.

The Spanish magazine thing? I recall magazines like that being notorious for stating stuff about things they know no more than the rest of us, so probably just a blurb. Though I guess it’s safe to assume it’s a new gen anyway and it’s already known the game comes out ”2018 or later”. Though as each passing day goes by without a new game announcement, the more I think it’ll be 2019 (and a Gen 7 mon for Smash).

 

[Cosmic77]

Smash 5 Predictions #1:

1. Mario Odyssey and Zelda Breath of the Wild will certainly get stages. New Donk City is likely the Mario one. And the Zelda one will be either the Great Plateau, one of the divine beast, or a stage that flies across the whole map.

2. Fire Emblem will have 1-2 other Assist trophies to join Lyn this time around. I certainly think Echoes has a strong chance for an AT regardless if it gets a character or not (and would strongly hope that would be Grey). They might consider a classic FE character for that AT spot as well. On the topic of ATs I would say at least one from Smash 4 stands a chance of becoming playable. The top choices being Ashley, Takamaru, Isabelle, and Dillon.

3. Retro characters are hard to predict, they are practically a crapshoot. While the main Nintendo characters and third parties can be somewhat predicted, retro characters are entirely up to whatever Sakurai decides.

4. Fire Emblem will get at least one newcomer and high chances are it is someone from the new Fire Emblem on Switch. The only other competitors to that spot, or spots if there are two, would be Alm or Celica.

5. Link will get a few alt costumes from different armor in Breath of the Wild, such as the Rito clothes and the Gerudo clothes. Link will also probably get the Shulk treatment from Smash 4 and have a costume in his underwear.

6. Rex from Xenoblade is practically guaranteed for this game.

7. We will get more alt characters in Smash 5. More of those different characters that will model swap in the alts, like Olimar with Alph or the different avatar genders from Smash 4. Who those are would be up to whoever works with the moveset.

8. Zelda will get a newcomer and with Link going Breath of the Wild I think it could be one of the champions.

9. Given the games that have been on Nintendo lately and ones yet to come to Switch I would think the third party characters that have the strongest chances for Smash 5 are Bomberman, Shantae, Crash, Shovel Knight, Travis Touchdown, Rayman, or someone from Dragon Quest.

10. Someone from ARMS is practically guaranteed for the game. While one of the more interesting characters would be better it is likely either Spring Man or Ribbon Girl. I say they pull a Alph/Olimar situation and make them the same slot with a balanced moveset of the two.

11. I don't think a lot of the characters that people seem to think will be "for sure cut" are going anywhere. A lot of them are usually too original to take out, or still very much used by Nintendo. There will still be at least a few cuts but some people take it too personal and cut for no good reason.

12. A lot of Final Smashes will receive a change (especially people that have useless ones like Peach) and similar to Ryu, more characters will have 2 Final Smashes.

I can agree with most of this, particularly points 1, 5, 7, and 8.

The only points I don't quite see the same as you are the ones regarding Rex, an ARMS character, and a FE Switch character. While I think there's a good chance we could get a few of these characters, I wouldn't say their chances are high enough to be "basically guaranteed".

If I had to take a guess, the odds of these games getting a character are as follows: Xenoblade 2 > ARMS > FE Switch.

 

[YoshiandToad]

Charizard doesn’t count as a newcomer. He’s not grouped with all the other newcomers on the Smash 4 site.

Regardless seeing as we've had two other Smash games where we've received Kanto Pokémon outside their gens turn, that they're constantly used for advertising and are some of, if not THE most popular mons overall, I think there's some chance of seeing a new original 151(Like the hugely popular Eevee, the ever present Meowth, etc) or a rejiggered veteran in Squirtle/Blastoise or Ivysaur/Venusaur.

I guess you could argue the other Kantos were added for the remakes of FireRed and LeafGreen but we seem to handwave that reasoning for Zelda, Fire Emblem, etc whenever they get a remake...

 

[Pacack]

3. Retro characters are hard to predict, they are practically a crapshoot. While the main Nintendo characters and third parties can be somewhat predicted, retro characters are entirely up to whatever Sakurai decides.

I'd argue that there are still a few retro reps that could be considered more likely than any others.

Takamaru has been considered many times throughout Smash's history, and it might finally be his time. He's finally had an international release of his game on the eShop, and he gained some exposure from his roles as an Assist Trophy in Smash and as a game in Nintendoland.

Excitebiker has been considered before, but was dismissed in favor of Ice Climbers. However, the franchise is well-known and recently received a course in Mario Kart, alongside names like Mario, Zelda, Animal Crossing, and F-Zero.

Balloon Fighter was considered in the past, though ultimately was discarded in favor of Ice Climbers. His game had a stage in 3DS, and the Villager was given an up-b that referenced him. While I don't expect him, Sakurai could always come back to the idea.

Sheriff was included as an assist trophy and may be considered for a playable role. After all, he is arguably Nintendo's first playable character, and is the first project worked on by the duo of Miyamoto and Takeda. Apparently, Miyamoto has fond memories of the game, too. That said, the character may fall into the realm of a historical character ala Mr. Game and Watch, R.O.B., and (arguably) Duck Hunt, rather than the realm of retros like Ice Climbers, Pit, and (arguably) Little Mac.

Sukapon was considered as an item in Melee, but was scrapped due to "adult matters" that likely had to do with rights. He has been requested a fair amount, which might bring him onto Sakurai's radar, especially if rumors that the copyright holders went bankrupt have merit.

 

[BluePikmin11]

I'd argue that there are still a few retro reps that could be considered more likely than any others.

Takamaru has been considered many times throughout Smash's history, and it might finally be his time. He's finally had an international release of his game on the eShop, and he gained some exposure from his roles as an Assist Trophy in Smash and as a game in Nintendoland.

Excitebiker has been considered before, but was dismissed in favor of Ice Climbers. However, the franchise is well-known and recently received a course in Mario Kart, alongside names like Mario, Zelda, Animal Crossing, and F-Zero.

Balloon Fighter was considered in the past, though ultimately was discarded in favor of Ice Climbers. His game had a stage in 3DS, and the Villager was given an up-b that referenced him. While I don't expect him, Sakurai could always come back to the idea.

Sheriff was included as an assist trophy and may be considered for a playable role. After all, he is arguably Nintendo's first playable character, and is the first project worked on by the duo of Miyamoto and Takeda. Apparently, Miyamoto has fond memories of the game, too. That said, the character may fall into the realm of a historical character ala Mr. Game and Watch, R.O.B., and (arguably) Duck Hunt, rather than the realm of retros like Ice Climbers, Pit, and (arguably) Little Mac.

Sukapon was considered as an item in Melee, but was scrapped due to "adult matters" that likely had to do with rights. He has been requested a fair amount, which might bring him onto Sakurai's radar, especially if rumors that the copyright holders went bankrupt have merit.

Adult matters? Copyright?! I have never heard of this. You have a source?

 

[TheLastJinjo]

Takamaru is from a classic with a long history of references in Nintendo games and a Famicom Disk System classic which is something new from a retro. He's been requested quite a lot to the point of being acknowledge via Mii costume.

Balloon Fight is one of the most classic NES games and would be a good inclusion to honor Satoru Iwata.

Excitebike is just straight up a unique idea for a fighter and just as classic as Balloon Fight. A fighter riding a motorcycle is going to draw a lot of attention.

 

[Mega Bidoof]

Regardless seeing as we've had two other Smash games where we've received Kanto Pokémon outside their gens turn, that they're constantly used for advertising and are some of, if not THE most popular mons overall, I think there's some chance of seeing a new original 151(Like the hugely popular Eevee, the ever present Meowth, etc) or a rejiggered veteran in Squirtle/Blastoise or Ivysaur/Venusaur.

I guess you could argue the other Kantos were added for the remakes of FireRed and LeafGreen but we seem to handwave that reasoning for Zelda, Fire Emblem, etc whenever they get a remake...

I doubt it. It’s not really some pattern where we always get a Gen 1 newcomer. There’s only 3 Smash sequels as of now.

Melee did include Mewtwo, but keep in mind there were only 2 generations at the time. He was added because he was freaking Mewtwo and was really relavent at the time with multiple movies. He wasn’t added as a throwback.

Brawl did add Pokémon Trainer, but I feel like that was Sakurai wanting to add the idea of a trainer with multiple Pokémon, which is a very important thing in the Pokémon games. He probably just chose the Kanto starters because he chose the first and most iconic trainer, and then gave him different stages of Pokémon he canonically has in Gold and Silver.

Smash 4 didn’t add a Kanto Pokémon. Trainer was cut due to transformations being cut, and Charizard was kept due to being the most iconic Pokémon of the three that Trainer had.

There’s really no reason to expect a Kanto throwback in addition to, let alone OVER an Alolan Pokemon. I feel like they wouldn’t put a fifth Kanto Pokémon over a representative of the most recent games, and putting two new Pokémon newcomers would be overkill, especially when one is from a generation that already has four unique characters.

I don’t put too much credence in “reps,” and don’t think there should systematically be one playable Pokémon per each generation just for the sake of having one. However, having five out of seven or eight Pokémon be from one generation, when we have soon to be seven others to pull from, is just too much.

 

[MrReyes96]

Hawlucha, then Infernape, EDIT: then Chandelure, then Genesect

Good taste!

 

[Pacack]

Adult matters? Copyright?! I have never heard of this. You have a source?

Source Gaming article under "items" in the Melee section.

Sukapon’s omission is purely a matter of financial and legal issues…For this game, we were planning to let characters get on Sukapon and ride around causing havoc, but it was cut.

Wikipedia's article on Joy Mech Fight elaborates on this a little.

Though the game's development is credited to Nintendo R&D1, it was originally conceived by two programmers, Koichi Hayashida and Koichiro Eto, who met at a programming seminar hosted by Nintendo. The two completed the game while working at the seminar, naming it Battle Battle League(バトルバトルリーグ), and Nintendo released the game under its current title after both had started to work for the company.

Unrelated, but for my stance on Duck Hunt:

Duck Hunt is a character which is a little less obvious about its historical ties. However, I would argue that the character represents not only the extremely well-selling Duck Hunt video game, but also the lesser known Beam Gun, Laser Clay Shooting System, WildGunman, and Duck Hunt products released in the 1970s. The Wild Gunman arcade game in particular is noteworthy for being the first arcade game to feature full motion video (it used 16mm film) and recorded human voice.

 

[Cosmic77]

Instead of asking what newcomers you expect, I want to try something different. Look at the list of franchises below.


Super Mario
Donkey Kong
The Legend of Zelda
Metroid
Kirby
Pokemon
Fire Emblem
Animal Crossing
Xenoblade Chronicles


With these nine franchises, try ordering them from most likely to least likely based on the odds you think they'll get a newcomer in Smash Switch (this includes DLC). As an example, here's mine:

>>>>>>>>

 

[Imadethistoseealeak]

Instead of asking what newcomers you expect, I want to try something different. Look at the list of franchises below.


Super Mario
Donkey Kong
The Legend of Zelda
Metroid
Kirby
Pokemon
Fire Emblem
Animal Crossing
Xenoblade Chronicles


With these nine franchises, try ordering them from most likely to least likely based on the odds you think they'll get a newcomer in Smash Switch (this includes DLC). As an example, here's mine:

>>>>>>>>

Including DLC? Ok then,

>>>>>>>>

That is unless we are counting reworked characters as new characters, because then Zelda would be first or second.

 

[MrReyes96]

Instead of asking what newcomers you expect, I want to try something different. Look at the list of franchises below.


Super Mario
Donkey Kong
The Legend of Zelda
Metroid
Kirby
Pokemon
Fire Emblem
Animal Crossing
Xenoblade Chronicles


With these nine franchises, try ordering them from most likely to least likely based on the odds you think they'll get a newcomer in Smash Switch (this includes DLC). As an example, here's mine:

>>>>>>>>

Donkey Kong > Animal Crossing > Pokemon > Zelda > Mario > Kirby > Xenoblade > Metroid

 

[TheLastJinjo]

Would Excitebike be considered retro? Or would he be more like Little Mac, alongside someone else as the truly retro character? I guess you're not truly a retro character if your last game was only 11 years ago.

 

[Deathcarter]

Instead of asking what newcomers you expect, I want to try something different. Look at the list of franchises below.


Super Mario
Donkey Kong
The Legend of Zelda
Metroid
Kirby
Pokemon
Fire Emblem
Animal Crossing
Xenoblade Chronicles


With these nine franchises, try ordering them from most likely to least likely based on the odds you think they'll get a newcomer in Smash Switch (this includes DLC). As an example, here's mine:

>>>>>>>>

Base Roster:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Including DLC:

>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

 

[Garteam]

Instead of asking what newcomers you expect, I want to try something different. Look at the list of franchises below.


Super Mario
Donkey Kong
The Legend of Zelda
Metroid
Kirby
Pokemon
Fire Emblem
Animal Crossing
Xenoblade Chronicles


With these nine franchises, try ordering them from most likely to least likely based on the odds you think they'll get a newcomer in Smash Switch (this includes DLC). As an example, here's mine:

>>>>>>>>

>/>>>>>>

 

[MoonlitIllusion]

Smash 5 Predictions #1:
4. Fire Emblem will get at least one newcomer and high chances are it is someone from the new Fire Emblem on Switch. The only other competitors to that spot, or spots if there are two, would be Alm or Celica.

I actually don't think we'll get any, smash 4 and it's dlc was a little oversaturated and I think Sakurai knows that, it's a little too late for a FE Switch character probably and alm and celica, while they offer unique stuff just aren't interesting enough as fighters imo to be included over others

6. Rex from Xenoblade is practically guaranteed for this game.

It could happen but I think it's they're too new to be included, DLC for sure tho

8. Zelda will get a newcomer and with Link going Breath of the Wild I think it could be one of the champions.

I could see it and wouldn't be mad, mipha seems to be the standout among fans but since the roster was decided before botw came out that's not a factor. Daruk is a good option too because Zora's and Goron's are such staples to the series. I could see both tbh Zelda hasn't had a newcomer in a long time.

10. Someone from ARMS is practically guaranteed for the game. While one of the more interesting characters would be better it is likely either Spring Man or Ribbon Girl. I say they pull a Alph/Olimar situation and make them the same slot with a balanced moveset of the two.

I don't think it will happen, like rex too new, I wouldn't expect any characters that debuted past mid-2016 except maybe a pokemon. The developers themselves had said the series is too new but that could just be the PR talking who knows. I still don't see it tho. DLC fighter for sure.

 

[Opossum]

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Instead of asking what newcomers you expect, I want to try something different. Look at the list of franchises below.


Super Mario
Donkey Kong
The Legend of Zelda
Metroid
Kirby
Pokemon
Fire Emblem
Animal Crossing
Xenoblade Chronicles


With these nine franchises, try ordering them from most likely to least likely based on the odds you think they'll get a newcomer in Smash Switch (this includes DLC). As an example, here's mine:

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Though Xenoblade, Fire Emblem, and Donkey Kong are somewhat interchangeable.

Kirby and Metroid swap when DLC is factored in.

 

[Deleted member]

Instead of asking what newcomers you expect, I want to try something different. Look at the list of franchises below.


Super Mario
Donkey Kong
The Legend of Zelda
Metroid
Kirby
Pokemon
Fire Emblem
Animal Crossing
Xenoblade Chronicles


With these nine franchises, try ordering them from most likely to least likely based on the odds you think they'll get a newcomer in Smash Switch (this includes DLC). As an example, here's mine:

>>>>>>>>

Pokemon > Xenoblade > Mario > FE > DK > AC > Kirby > Zelda > Metroid

Probably at least something close to that.

 

[MoonlitIllusion]

Instead of asking what newcomers you expect, I want to try something different. Look at the list of franchises below.


Super Mario
Donkey Kong
The Legend of Zelda
Metroid
Kirby
Pokemon
Fire Emblem
Animal Crossing
Xenoblade Chronicles


With these nine franchises, try ordering them from most likely to least likely based on the odds you think they'll get a newcomer in Smash Switch (this includes DLC). As an example, here's mine:

>>>>>>>>

I'd say...
>>>>>>>>

A DK, Pokemon and Xenoblade character are near guarantees. And I don't see us getting a new FE or Metroid character. Kirby, Mario and AC could go either way

 

[Mega Bidoof]

Instead of asking what newcomers you expect, I want to try something different. Look at the list of franchises below.


Super Mario
Donkey Kong
The Legend of Zelda
Metroid
Kirby
Pokemon
Fire Emblem
Animal Crossing
Xenoblade Chronicles


With these nine franchises, try ordering them from most likely to least likely based on the odds you think they'll get a newcomer in Smash Switch (this includes DLC). As an example, here's mine:

>>>>>>>>

>>>>===>>>

The only ones I would be totally surprised if they went without newcomers for would be Pokémon, Xenoblade, DK, and Kirby.

I think there’s a good chance for Mario, Fire Emblem, Zelda, and Metroid, and would be genuinely surprised if at least 2 of them didn’t get newcomers. My current prediction roster has all four getting newcomers, but I wouldn’t be surprised if Sakurai:
- Sees the Zelda series as complete with the main four and a child version of Link (and Sheik just because of Melee)
- Is afraid of over-representing Fire Emblem and Mario
- Still doesn’t want to include Ridley, leaving him with no major Metroid character to add (though he might add Sylux because Prime 4)

I don’t see Animal Crossing getting a newcomer at all. I just think Villager represents what the games are all about very well, and the series isn’t a game with a bunch of characters with different powers. It’s the same reason I think F-Zero and Pikmin stay one character.
However, I could see Isabelle or Tom Nook being included as a semi-clone to represent some other parts of the series, similar to how Alph would’ve been a clone of Olimar but probably with Rock Pikmin.

 

[colder_than_ice]

Instead of asking what newcomers you expect, I want to try something different. Look at the list of franchises below.


Super Mario
Donkey Kong
The Legend of Zelda
Metroid
Kirby
Pokemon
Fire Emblem
Animal Crossing
Xenoblade Chronicles


With these nine franchises, try ordering them from most likely to least likely based on the odds you think they'll get a newcomer in Smash Switch (this includes DLC). As an example, here's mine:

>>>>>>>>

Including DLC
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Why is everyone putting the Mario series so low on this? They have about four viable candidates and they’ve also had at least two newcomers in every Smash game except Brawl.

 

[Garteam]

Is it strange that I don't see a Xenoblade newcomer happening? I know the consensus is a Xenoblade 2 character is kind of a given, but timing may be an issue. If the project plan and thusly roster was decided Summer of 2016, that would put it in an awkward situation where Xenoblade X was considered old hat while Xenoblade 2 may not have been concrete enough to receive a character in Smash.

 

[Opossum]

Including DLC
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Why is everyone putting the Mario series so low on this? They have about four viable candidates and they’ve also had at least two newcomers in every Smash game except Brawl.

I probably should have made it more clear on mine, but I honestly think all but Metroid and Kirby are likely to get newcomers. So it's not that I don't think a Mario newcomer will happen, but that I just find some of the others slightly likelier.

 

[Cosmic77]

I'm actually surprised at how much variation there is with these lists. Seems like the only consistency is:

(1) Pokemon is very likely to get a newcomer.
(2) Zelda and Metroid are very unlikely to get a newcomer.

 

[Pacack]

Is it strange that I don't see a Xenoblade newcomer happening? I know the consensus is a Xenoblade 2 character is kind of a given, but timing may be an issue. If the project plan and thusly roster was decided Summer of 2016, that would put it in an awkward situation where Xenoblade X was considered old hat while Xenoblade 2 may not have been concrete enough to receive a character in Smash.

I personally argue that Elma is more likely than Rex, but not many people agree with me.

 

[YoshiandToad]

Instead of asking what newcomers you expect, I want to try something different. Look at the list of franchises below.


Super Mario
Donkey Kong
The Legend of Zelda
Metroid
Kirby
Pokemon
Fire Emblem
Animal Crossing
Xenoblade Chronicles


With these nine franchises, try ordering them from most likely to least likely based on the odds you think they'll get a newcomer in Smash Switch (this includes DLC). As an example, here's mine:

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Although tbf I think everything up to Fire Emblem is getting a newcomer, with Pokémon and Mario getting multiples(hence higher than Xenoblade).

Zelda should but I'm not confident at all in it and Metroid....well I think we've got more chance of a Starfox character at this point (which isn't saying much).

 

[Starcutter]

Instead of asking what newcomers you expect, I want to try something different. Look at the list of franchises below.


Super Mario
Donkey Kong
The Legend of Zelda
Metroid
Kirby
Pokemon
Fire Emblem
Animal Crossing
Xenoblade Chronicles


With these nine franchises, try ordering them from most likely to least likely based on the odds you think they'll get a newcomer in Smash Switch (this includes DLC). As an example, here's mine:

>>>>>>>>

=>>>>>>>

Xenoblade and Kirby are the only series I feel 100% confident in, especially with dlc. Everything else is still likely though, all of these series could get a newcomer.

 

[MoonlitIllusion]

I personally argue that Elma is more likely than Rex, but not many people agree with me.

Same, it's WAY too early for Rex imo, but he's a good candidate for DLC. And I personally think elma would make the more interesting character

 

[Staarih]

Instead of asking what newcomers you expect, I want to try something different. Look at the list of franchises below.
Super Mario
Donkey Kong
The Legend of Zelda
Metroid
Kirby
Pokemon
Fire Emblem
Animal Crossing
Xenoblade Chronicles

Pokemon > Xenoblade Chronicles > Animal Crossing > Kirby > Super Mario > The Legend of Zelda > Donkey Kong > Fire Emblem > Metroid

Pokémon seems very likely, and I’m pretty sure Xenoblade will get someone, it’s obviously a franchise Nintendo wants to focus on and succeed. After that, I have a hunch of both AC and Kirby possibly getting a newcomer just because how big and popular they have become today. After that I don’t really know, Mario, Zelda and DK could do either way... but FE and Metroid I feel like won’t get too much focus.

 

[DraginHikari]

Is it strange that I don't see a Xenoblade newcomer happening? I know the consensus is a Xenoblade 2 character is kind of a given, but timing may be an issue. If the project plan and thusly roster was decided Summer of 2016, that would put it in an awkward situation where Xenoblade X was considered old hat while Xenoblade 2 may not have been concrete enough to receive a character in Smash.

Xenoblade X was released in Japan in April 2015. I seriously doubt that would make it old hat if he decided the roster in 2016. It would have been over a year old at that point. You can definitely argue the timing for Xenoablade 2, but I don't think X is really impacted.

 

[Lyndis_]

I'll honestly be incredibly bummed if we go 2 games without a new Metroid character, and 5 Smash games in Samus is both of the only two Metroid characters.

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A new Pokemon character is all but guaranteed, and I feel similarly about a Xenoblade X character. The only way I see us not getting an X character is if they decide late in to pick a Xenoblade 2 character, which would frustrate me to no end but I could see it happening.

With the success of the DKCR series I think a new DK character is pretty likely, and Kirby getting a 4th seems about the same. I feel Zelda and Mario could go either way, but I definitely feel Zelda is due for a new one so I'm putting it ever so slightly above Mario.

Fire Emblem is unlikely but still more possible than Metroid, which the only two real options are Ridley and Sylux. I would like to have them, but Sakurai doesn't seem to know/care much about Metroid and we know how he feels about Ridley. Sylux had a cameo in Federation Force (making him more recent than Ridley around the time Smash 5 would have started) and is almost definitely the main antagonist of Prime 4 but I feel that might not be enough / too late for Sakurai to consider. Regardless I'll be bummed at the inevitability.

I don't see any reason for another Animal Crossing character outside of updating Villager to Mayor. Isabelle doesn't make sense as a fighter to me (even the "clumsy fighter" thing feels out of place for her character somewhat) even as one of my favorite video game characters, she exists as an assist role and I think her Assist Trophy represents that perfectly. Tom Nook would make more sense, but I like his place as Villager's final Smash as well. I just don't see any of these characters as fighters, even if they could technically work.

 

[Koopaul]

When it comes to newcomers expect them to be from a Wii U/3DS game before mid-2016. Or a retro character from the NES era or earlier.

I'm not saying it's impossible for a character from outside those perimeters to make it in. Just less likely.

 

[Jubileus57]

Instead of asking what newcomers you expect, I want to try something different. Look at the list of franchises below.


Super Mario
Donkey Kong
The Legend of Zelda
Metroid
Kirby
Pokemon
Fire Emblem
Animal Crossing
Xenoblade Chronicles


With these nine franchises, try ordering them from most likely to least likely based on the odds you think they'll get a newcomer in Smash Switch (this includes DLC). As an example, here's mine:

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