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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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You only get those with the fighter pass so if you accidentally bought the game by itself and not the pass bundle you're spared for a while lol
Wait really? I would think they would be in the base game, but whatever. I already got the bundle so I can listen to that delicious guitar all i want :p
 

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You only get those with the fighter pass so if you accidentally bought the game by itself and not the pass bundle you're spared for a while lol
First time I'm hearing that. Has this actually been confirmed?

I don't see what's so wrong with that?
Oh, you have no idea just how much I dislike that game.
And even on a more serious note, I don't care much for the songs they picked from the game. If this were Zeke's theme, I'd be having it, but out of the ones in right now, I like one at best, but even that not enough to actually play it one the stage.
 

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It's just the Rex costume that's tied to the Fighters Pass, the other XB2 content (the songs, the Nia costume) are in the base game.
Edit: This was supposed to be a reply. Eh whatevs
 
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It's just the Rex costume that's tied to the Fighters Pass, the other XB2 content (the songs, the Nia costume) are in the base game.
Edit: This was supposed to be a reply. Eh whatevs
It's weird that they would only make the Rex costume DLC, bu I guess they want to appeal to XC2 fans since Rex is probably dead now. Some people won't buy the FP is their most wanted is deconfirmed, so why not give them the next best thing in the FP? At least, that's probably what they're doing.
 

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Xenoblade 2 music could have been more diverse. Like, maybe I want to duke it out with 7 CPUs while Drifting Soul is playing in the background.
 
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Xenoblade 2 music could have been more diverse. Like, maybe I want to duke it out with 7 CPUs while Drifting Soul is playing in the background.
How they finna leave out literally the most iconic XC2 song as well. Counterattack is the ****ing bomb
 

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Xenoblade 2 music could have been more diverse. Like, maybe I want to duke it out with 7 CPUs while Drifting Soul is playing in the background.
The Xenoblade 2 music is just following the pattern set by Xenoblade 1's music inclusions, Counterattack being the only exclusion. Default battle song, later battle song, named monster battle song (no counterpart for Engage the Enemy, no continent songs/medley but that's understandable). And it's way more than what X got. I would've killed for Black Tar, Black Tar (skell) and Uncontrollable personally.
 
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A light shone in Inkling’s eye, and the biggest hype train I’ve ever been a part of left the station. Soon, everyone was here, plus Inkling, Daisy, and Ridley. Simon and Richter showed up. Dark Samus. Chrom. K Rool. Isabelle. Ken. Incineroar. It was all insane, and now we’re only a day out. Smash 4 changed my life in the most positive way possible. I hope that, when it’s all said and done, Ultimate does the same. Godspeed, Sm4sh. I hope everyone remembers you as fondly as I will.
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The Xenoblade 2 music is just following the pattern set by Xenoblade 1's music inclusions, Counterattack being the only exclusion. Default battle song, later battle song, named monster battle song (no counterpart for Engage the Enemy, no continent songs/medley but that's understandable). And it's way more than what X got. I would've killed for Black Tar, Black Tar (skell) and Uncontrollable personally.
Oh yeah, why are there no X songs daddy Sakurai??? Uncontrollable is literally my favorite Xenoblade song, like, ever.

its because they're saving it for dlc alongside elma
 

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Twelve hours left until Smash Ultimate is out in my time zone at least (it is time zone specific right?)
I should probably have a quick run through with Smash Wii U and 3DS to pass the time I suppose...
 
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Not really good basis for thinking a series wouldn't get a new character, that's like saying Donkey Kong wouldn't be getting K. Rool because his initials aren't DK or thinking that some FE reps wouldn't return because they don't use the Falchion.
I’m not saying they aren’t coming because there is no new series symbol. I’m saying no new series symbol is a sign that they aren’t coming. K Rool is still a Donkey Kong character so that logo still applies. The Fire Emblem symbol might as well be a generic sword too. It’s not like it has any details on it. I know it’s a nitpick but I feel it’s something Sakurai would have changed.
 
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I’m not saying they aren’t coming because there is no new series symbol. I’m saying no new series symbol is a sign that they aren’t coming. K Rool is still a Donkey Kong character so that logo still applies. The Fire Emblem symbol might as well be a generic sword too. It’s not like it has any details on it. I know it’s a nitpick but I feel it’s something Sakurai would have changed.
FE's symbol is the Falchion for the same reason's Xenoblade's symbol is the Monado.
It's a Sword of Plot Device in the first game of their series.
They wouldn't change the icon just because a game doesn't have it(even though XCX does have the Monado as a cameo) much like how they didn't change the FE logo for any of the other FE characters.
 

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What’s the first thing every one is gonna do (in game) once they get the game?
World of Light. I always play the story mode first then do arcade/classic mode with every character when I play a fighting game. Usually because you unlock the hidden characters through Story Mode. I’m probably not going to be done for a month. Who am I kidding. Probably two weeks.
 

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I’m not saying they aren’t coming because there is no new series symbol. I’m saying no new series symbol is a sign that they aren’t coming. K Rool is still a Donkey Kong character so that logo still applies. The Fire Emblem symbol might as well be a generic sword too. It’s not like it has any details on it. I know it’s a nitpick but I feel it’s something Sakurai would have changed.
No series symbol has ever changed because of a newcomer.

Oh yeah, why are there no X songs daddy Sakurai??? Uncontrollable is literally my favorite Xenoblade song, like, ever.

its because they're saving it for dlc alongside elma
You want Xenoblade X content in Smash? Well, I have the perfect song for you:

 

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No series symbol has ever changed because of a newcomer.



You want Xenoblade X content in Smash? Well, I have the perfect song for you:

No. But they have changed. Even as recently as this game.

It just feels weird to me. Like, I wanted Cloud’s symbol to be the flaming planet behind the 7 logo. But it wasn’t. I took that to mean the series symbol had to represent the franchise as a whole. I never would have guessed the Fire Emblem one was the falchion because it really looks like a generic sword. I kind of see it now that I look at the blade. But if anything that just makes me want the Fire Emblem symbol changed too.
 
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Sonic is too fast for Smash.

They would have to make bigger stages just so Sonic doesn’t fall easily from them with his high speed.
And Super Sonic would be more broken than Goku.

Unless they pull an All Stars Racing, he can’t be in Mario Kart either, because it would feel like playing an even harder version of F-Zero GX.

You can’t take out Sonic’s speed, because it goes against the character.
 
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Also, before anyone mentions MGS's logo changing, that's solely because of the issues between Konami and Kojima as the former icon was the(now former too) logo of Kojima Productions.
 

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Oh yeah, why are there no X songs daddy Sakurai??? Uncontrollable is literally my favorite Xenoblade song, like, ever.

its because they're saving it for dlc alongside elma

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Me too. People hate the XCX OST but I love it. So many great tracks. That’s why I see Elma getting in as DLC. You have a stage and great music that has yet to appear.
 

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They would have to make bigger stages just so Sonic doesn’t fall easily from them with his high speed.
Palutena's Temple

No. But they have changed. Even as recently as this game.

It just feels weird to me. Like, I wanted Cloud’s symbol to be the flaming planet behind the 7 logo. But it wasn’t. I took that to mean the series symbol had to represent the franchise as a whole. I never would have guessed the Fire Emblem one was the falchion because it really looks like a generic sword. I kind of see it now that I look at the blade. But if anything that just makes me want the Fire Emblem symbol changed too.
I don't recall them changing Star Fox symbol because we got Wolf or Kid Icarus because Palutena.
 

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not unless you wanted more kirby content in smash bros

also anyone else remember seeing a monster hunter logo attributed to rathalos? has any other third party assist trophy done that or is it just him for some reason?
 
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Palutena's Temple



I don't recall them changing Star Fox symbol because we got Wolf or Kid Icarus because Palutena.
Making Sonic work only in one stage?

Sounds dissapointing, tbh.
Every stage in Smash would need to be remade to make Sonic work.
 
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No. But they have changed. Even as recently as this game.

It just feels weird to me. Like, I wanted Cloud’s symbol to be the flaming planet behind the 7 logo. But it wasn’t. I took that to mean the series symbol had to represent the franchise as a whole. I never would have guessed the Fire Emblem one was the falchion because it really looks like a generic sword. I kind of see it now that I look at the blade. But if anything that just makes me want the Fire Emblem symbol changed too.
I feel like this needs to be said, but the Monado is pretty damn representative of the series as a whole if you've played XC2, probably more so then the Falchion is. Even in XCX there are a couple references to it. I would honestly rather they keep it as the Monado rather then change it to anything else. Only good change would be changing it to the Conduit but that's basically it.
 

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Making Sonic work only in one stage?

Sounds dissapointing, tbh.
Every stage in Smash would need to be remade to make Sonic work.
Sonic works on every stage, it's just you can fall from any stage with any character if you are not good with them.
 

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I feel like this needs to be said, but the Monado is pretty damn representative of the series as a whole if you've played XC2, probably more so then the Falchion is. Even in XCX there are a couple references to it. I would honestly rather they keep it as the Monado rather then change it to anything else. Only good change would be changing it to the Conduit but that's basically it.
change it to whatever fits the entire xeno series best
 

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Make it so that the XBC2 songs never play on Gaur Plains, and then try to unlock Shulk and Inkling.
Why wouldn't you want the XBC2 songs to play? Regardless of feelings towards the game or its artstyle, the OST kicks absolute ass.
 

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Palutena's Temple



I don't recall them changing Star Fox symbol because we got Wolf or Kid Icarus because Palutena.
That’s kind of different. Those two are characters who live in the same worlds as the other characters and are part of the same stories. Fire Emblem (with the exception of Awakening) and Xenoblade have new and different worlds every time with no connecting threads except the gameplay
 
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Sonic works on every stage, it's just you can fall from any stage with any character if you are not good with them.
I was joking about the Ridley is Too Big thing.
 
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No. But they have changed. Even as recently as this game.

It just feels weird to me. Like, I wanted Cloud’s symbol to be the flaming planet behind the 7 logo. But it wasn’t. I took that to mean the series symbol had to represent the franchise as a whole. I never would have guessed the Fire Emblem one was the falchion because it really looks like a generic sword. I kind of see it now that I look at the blade. But if anything that just makes me want the Fire Emblem symbol changed too.
I mean, even if the symbol really was an unimportant generic sword, I still feel like that would represent FE pretty well.

KI has what looks like a generic bow as its symbol, but it's still an important weapon in the KI universe. Similarly, swords are a large part of the FE universe, and since all seven FE characters fight with a sword, why not?
 

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Twelve hours left until Smash Ultimate is out in my time zone at least (it is time zone specific right?)
Yes, it depends on your time zone. There are people who buy it from the New Zealand E-Shop to play it asap, although personally I don't think it's worth the hassle just to get it a few hours early.
 

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>The Thing just wants to bang! (Reference to the song from the 90s cartoon)
Um...

That’s kind of different. Those two are characters who live in the same worlds as the other characters and are part of the same stories. Fire Emblem (with the exception of Awakening) and Xenoblade have new and different worlds every time with no connecting threads except the gameplay
Okay, but this sounds like a very arbitrary and subjective reason to change a logo.
 
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